TRIPREPORT | Air China (ECONOMY) | Beijing - Vienna | Airbus A330-200
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- They often offer quite cheap long-haul flights, but be aware! Their A330s are old, the legroom is tiny, the meals are borderline inedible, in conclusion: Don't!
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Airline: Air China
Aircraft: Airbus A330-200
Registration: B-6117
Flight Time: 8h 30min
Seat: 52A
From: Beijing Capital
To: Vienna Schwechat
Date: Feburary 2019
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Cameras used: Canon G7X Mark II
Additional equipment used: none
-- PRICE BREAKDOWN --
Total Price: USD 466.00
Total Routing: HND-PEK-VIE
Booked through: skyticket.com
Cost includes: Economy Class Ticket including one checked bag and free seat reservations
Booking made: December 2018
-- VIDEO BREAKDOWN --
00:00 - Beijing Capital Airport
02:04 - Boarding
02:45 - Cabin and Seat
04:31 - Taxi and Take Off
05:57 - Dinner Service
06:55 - Inflight Entertainment
08:00 - Breakfast Service
08:42 - Inflight
09:42 - Approach and Landing
10:42 - Deboarding
11:27 - Vienna Airport
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I was shocked to read the plane is from 2008. The interior looks 25 years out of date.
It's looks like more early 2000s to me
If so, then the livery must be 35+
@@csn3333 the livery looked like something *Chairman MAO* would have used!
@@odeiraoloap CA's livery was basically the ex-CAAC's livery, back in the country-own and operated times. So it can really date back to almost 70 yrs ago
Yes that outdated to be a 08 aircraft! Alitalia has the a330 of 2009-12 and they are much better
guys check the description and the date before talking about coronavirus
Kinda click-baity to publish this video on feb 2020 lol
AendM XD
AendM that was today
@@m4rs12 not really. Many of their flight reviews are filmed months prior.
It’s 2020, people don’t check facts before they comment.
Lights off in the cabin, especially at night is a recommended safety practice. In an emergency, seconds matter, and eyes adjusting to the dark wastes time when you need to evacuate quickly
I know that's the prevailing wisdom, and in theory it makes sense, but in real life has there ever really been an emergency situation where it actually made the slightest bit of difference?
Not that I am aware of, off the top of my head. But think of it this way--should there be an accident with fatalities to prove that it is true? It's a simple thing to do, and the chances of an accident are slim, but I'm not sure anyone wants to be on that flight where the theory is put to the test.
@@ChrisJones-ru9yx At least I hope to God the aviation authority had done a study on the effect of light off at take-off and landing. I mean, they are doing study atm at the impact of seat pitch and sizes on evacuating passengers in emergency situation.
In America, it’s a federal aviation regulation. You can be fined for not making sure the lights in the cabin match the outside conditions. And yes there have been multiple cases where evacuations have been stilted because people weren’t adjusted to outside light conditions. These regulations are put in place because they’ve learned from past accidents.
The Chinese aren't too fussed about personal safety regulations. Just look at their production facilities. No PPE, no physical guards whatsoever. If someone dies on the job: they are literally replaced within hours.
I saw a video where a machine caught a man's clothes and pulled him in, literally whipping him around and around violently slamming him into the floor multiple times before someone finally cut the power. Then the video shows someone else working on that same machine hours later (after they removed the dead man's mangled body) while other workers were cleaning up the blood on the floor.
Safety regulations in China are absolutely atrocious.
This is why I like enjoy and trust Simply Aviation, no ego`s, no sponsor's, just an honest reflection of a flight that they have paid for.
My son and his wife come home to Scotland from Korea via Beijing and London with Air China, there were also not impressed.
Thanks David for your honest opinion.
fun fact: everything you saw on the evening meal also is found at the air china business class lounge in T3
Comments: Coronavirus
Also comments: hey you guys look at the description this was before Coronavirus so stop commenting about it
Lol no one checks before commenting these days
1 Year Ago Really
Do you blame them commenting about it? Yes it is obvious that it was before. China Air is no longer landing in the US as far as I was told but a neighbor who cancelled her flight to Japan on China Air. But the fare from New York to Tokyo was only $750 vs Air Canada at $900 and JAL/ ANA/ American/ United at $1,500!!!!
Did somebody say Coronavirus?
Yup
Corona Virus comments upcoming even tho this video was recorded on february 2019.
Have you noticed, that David after a long time didn’t say „thanks for the lovely flight,” but only „thanks for the ride.” This had to be very uncomfortable and unsatisfying flight. But what you wouldn’t do for us, viewers! :-) Wish you a better luck next time choosing an airline.
3 years ago my family and I travelled to Shanghai onboard Air China's a330-300...we boarded the aircraft and there was no IFE for an 12 hour flight...Also in the night it got extremely cold and there were no blankets provided...
That "dinner" looks very bad... brekkie looks below average. Thanks for the review!
Qwe Rty What is brekkie?
RS it’s breakfast but in the UK it can be called brekkie
@@Astron0mical_ and Straya too m8
CA never have a good meal, trust me.
Jason Wu they're getting better though
I flew with them on CDG-PEK route, A330, and it was a rather bad experience....
First thing was that electronic devices usage was prohibited on board. IFE was a bit broken (for some reason all the screens were boiling hot when we came into the cabin), even had a few mistakes in it (I didn’t know music flok was a thing....). Legroom wasn’t good , especially since I’m rather tall. The gap between the seat and the wall had obviously not been cleaned recently. The crew was very cold too, quite unfriendly. Food selection for dinner was chicken and pasta or fish and rice. I ordered the first one, but when I opened the meal I thought they gave me the wrong one at first glance... Taste was alright tho. However pizza for breakfast, never again.... Finally, landing was kinda rough. Unless they have an extremely cheap deal, I’ll avoid them!
Nice trip report! This was a 2008-built plane? Wow, it looked as if it was about 30 years old. The IFE was old fashioned, and the seat was uncomfortable for this flight.
Me: Ok so that must be a multilingual purser, right?
Man over PA: Ich bin Ihr Kapitän
Me: Wow!
Josh Cahill (another aviation blogger) had strong criticism of the Chinese airlines not dimming the lights on take-off. He said it was a safety hazard and I recall he was quite vehement in this.
I don’t see Air China planes crashing everyday. In fact, their standards are good.
He’s a douche bag “blogger” 😂😂
It’s only for that one flight on Xiamen air
Wow... I flew AirChina several times between china and Germany, the Catering was far better.
With a full meal after take off.
Probably because the flight time is a little bit longer
As covid is now left behind I'm thrilled to be able to fly Air China again. I have to say they improved a lot. However, the ticket from Europe to Asia are around 400€ return, so somehow you have to adjust the expectations to the price. And therefor I think its a good deal.
If you're not budget sensitive go ahead and book annother airline. You'll have much better experience with eg. Lufthansa, however you will pay at least 50% more.
Pro tip: Avoid their a330 on long haul if possible. Their a350 product is very modern and the IFE is also competitive. The 777 is also quite comfy with air china. However you'll meet the same old IFE
I legit thought those were mashed potatoes instead of hashbrowns😂
i thought it was a biscuit without gravy.
I'm probably the only person in the world who's had a positive experience with Air China (food and all!), that being said I did fly on their 787's rather than the A330 - even I'd be pissed if I had to fly for 10 hours on those!
Comment section: corona virus
Me: it’s shot infeb 2019 for gods sake
Rayyan Habib it says 2020 that means it’s today
@@inflightaviation757 If you read the description youll notice it says "Date - feb 2019". It was uploaded a year later
Gabi P I saw it thx for telling me
Rayyan Habib *hears cough*
There *was* coronavirus in Feb 2020
I have done a lot of travel in my life. I have flown in everything from Lufthansa's First Class on the 747-8i to the backseat of a student pilot's Cessna 172. My 4 segments in Air China Y are bar none the worst flights I have ever flown. Along with everything observed here, my experience included receiving a SINGLE ORANGE (yes, really) as a "kosher meal" and a 9 hour layover at PEK, approximately 5 hours of which I spent in a small room handcuffed to a table because I waited in the wrong line at immigration. I don't care how much cheaper the ticket is. I will never fly them again.
Your so Lucky u flew in first class
I flew to LHR from Shanghai and I must admit, I really enjoyed it but that's mainly because I don't fly long haul so often
Why lie? I know China is a shithole but don’t lie that you were hand cuffed lmao
That's CCP for you!
i dont think what you said about being handcuffed to a table is true, keep dreaming mate.
It's worse when people see February 2019 and thinks that it's now... 😂
For a second I thought it said feb 2020, but checked my eyes and t'was Feb 2019
@@MrMig5terious that's what I mean 😂
Well based on my Air China A330 Economy trip from Singapore to Beijing,the flight was actually pretty good.On the seat we were sitting on,me and my mom’s inflight entertainment was not functioning,and the flight attendants kindly helped assign another seat to us that have working inflight entertainment.Then the meal I had was steamed chicken with rice,the meat is somehow juicy and not that hard to chew.The drinks provided quenched our thrust.Few days later me,my mom and her sister took an Air China 777 from Beijing to Shenzhen.The entertainment was ok and the food choice of either beef stew or pork fried rice was both delicious.And some more both flight tickets were affordable.This was back in March 2016
the tiny legroom reminds me of an Air Canada 777 long-haul flight a few years ago. It was the most uncomfortable flight ever !! Air Canada must have heard of a lot of complaints about it because the 777 legroom is much better now. Early last year, I flew a BA old 747 from YVR to LHR, IFE was so old that the picture was really bad. Now, BA uses A380 for the same flight !!! two thumbs up BA !!! For me, the most important things in any long-haul flights are legroom and the frequency of flight attendants serving water during the flight. I once flew Canada's WestJet from Gatwick to Calgary, water was only served 2 times during the entire 9.5 hour flight !!! not good at all !!!
I live in Tokyo since long time and I always fly Air China when possible to go find my family back in Europe...very cheap flights and no problem so far honestly! I love it hostesses give you free snacks too if you ask
I've been on this exact flight last spring and I have to fully agree with the result. Legroom is appalling, I had exactly one way how to fold my legs and every minute of the 10 hours was a pure pain. They ran out of normal food, so I got rice and some fermented soya beans that were inedible. Simply Aviation is right - Don't!
I'm sorry to hear that, Jan.
2008? That plane belongs in the 90s. Air China got their first A330 in 2006.
No the a330 is a decent plane. I flew it muc-wdh , per-syd, syd-chc . But the Air China one fra-ctu had an equally run down interior. And the food on air china is really bad.
Zhi Jian Nicholas Toh I was trying to say that it would have looked obsolete even in 2008
QuarioQuario54321 no 2008
Sparta beer reviews Sparta beer What?
The A330neo could succeed it in the future
You made me laugh when you said „...though croissant „ hahaha :) thanks for the Video! :)
Great vid guys! Hey, a question, what editing software do you guys use?
So which of the mainland Chinese carriers do you prefer when flying long haul? Xiamen, Hainan, China Southern or China Eastern (and its subsidiary Shanghai Airlines)?
PEK is such a large and beautiful airport, I have been there in April, 2019. However, it was true that there was a lot of people during peak hours, like I stood for an hour for security :D, I also chose Air China, and right, my flight back home from PEK the meal was awful, like a piece of slimy green cake, but my catering on my flight to PEK was impressive though. :D
Wow l live in bj
I think the airport in Beijing always are very cold. So people always try to sit in the sun inside. But at night there are no sun to heat you. After 9-10 hours in that airport you feel cold. So bring a jacket to that airport.
Plot twist: "2019" was a typo and he really did take this flight in 2020
Nah it wasn’t he flew in 2019
@@CharlesCalvinnotclickbait its a joke
I personally love the A330, but I understand the struggles of flying in it.
Could you fly on Austrian airlines from Vienna directly to Yerevan ( capital of Armenia ) ?
( economy or business doesn’t matter )
Yes.
Air China really need to upgrade the entire company to a new era, like new livery, new cabin hardware and better service of course, it’s such a waste for their fleet operating under this kind of service level! btw their A359 was actually great, waaaaay more better than these old configuration 332
How do you film with the camera doesn’t your hand hurt after hours of filming
Genius u think he doesn’t put has hand down Nd cuts
My experience with breakfast on an Asian Airline has been very low too, exception maybe Philippine Airlines. I don't think most airlines have good breakfast food though.
In my experience Korean air have a very decent breakfast
Cathay Pacific also has very good breakfast, considering I fly with them every year.
it was filmed last year, uploaded today, there was no corona virus at that time.
Air China offers year round low fares from Europe to basically everywhere in Asia, even biz class has low fares and are an option if you're a star alliance status holder and are in need of some miles to retain your status. Otherwise as this video shows Air China isn't really a quality option....
12 minutes, 12 seconds of why not to fly Air China. Thanks for making the report. Who remembers Aeroflot in the bad old days?
John R who doesnt remember?
Aeroflot present day is not Aeroflot under Soviet Union now lol. They offered free snackbar and decent meal compare to Soviet times where FA would simply throw your food to the table and finish the day 😂😂😂
Hi David! I love your videos (and your colleagues' videos too of course).
I have a question. At 8:34, you mentioned that of all the inflight meals you have had so far, "this one ranks very very low". Since I only remember very good meals (like the one you had on the HND-PEK leg of this journey), do you have examples of really bad meals on the trip reports you published on this channel?
The pre-ordered meal I had on Buta Airways was horrible, other than that no overly bad meal comes to mind...most of the ones I had were perfectly fine...
The Chinese breakfast on HKG-LHR on British Airways was horrible as well.
@@simply_aviation Ah yes, I remember the congee on BA didn't look too appetizing. The meal on Buta Airways didn't come to mind as you had called it "satisfying" back then... but looking back, the sausage didn't look like it was even cooked!
I really appreciate the honest opinions on the flights. Sorry to hear that the flight was not very great, David.
Thanks for taking this flight, so we don't have to!
James David Walley and suffer
Found the Earth China jumbo jet why I watched the TH-cam
Is stand everybody
I wonder if the seats on their 747-8 are more spacious/nicer
8:32 that's the second officer helping with the food tray?
I just love a330s I don't know why and nice video
Is the economy class meal on United also borderline inedible like Air China?
David Bian it is
I found air China surprisingly a little better than united for meals
@@mtvisionary What does Simply Aviation think?
The secret is Air China does better...
DW M, so even though the food on UA tastes bad, I think it’s still edible! Is it? If not, will nobody eat it? Is it actually unsafe for United to have bad meals? How is air China better?
They served a sausage with yogurt. That's a no-no.
Could you please mention your height when you mention legroom?
Parth Doshi 1.78 but his build is different. I’m 1.79 but I have shorter legs so I don’t need that much legroom.
I flew them once, there was no entertainment screen which I did not need anyway. Pretty cool airline bought ticket just 4 days before flight at cheap price.
Hi were they strict if you went 2-3kg over. Are they strict with carry on and checked bag weight
Hi. A little question. Why it’s taken a year from the date of the flight to the date of the upload?
It’s likely they fly multiple routes in one go then have a break before going again. Probably been on that many flights there a back log. Also editing can take time
Used to fly their ancient 333 with no inflight entertainment system onboard from Beijing to Melbourne. And mobile phones weren’t allowed to use inflight back then. Painful 11 hour flight 😅.
11:17 When you walk onto the jet bridge at VIE, *home sweet home*
8:28 it's probably some kind of juice with fruit pieces I think, if anybody cares.
I want aeroplane maswings in Malaysia. Maswings atr72 and twin otter in sarawak and sabah
Awesome video man! I really enjoyed it :)
The typical CA quality, never fly with them again
On the Air China flight from Beijing to Vienna, do they serve Viennese pastries?
I have seen this video some times. It made me sad because I was supposed to be to fly with them between Germany and Japan in March 2020 and of course the flight got cancelled. There can be said many things about Air China, but the money was refunded two weeks after the cancellation which is not the case by many airlines.
Beijing - London, eleven hours in economy class. I'm 6'8. And he's right about the leg room. Now beat that...
Oh shit man...🤦🏼♂️
Geez...many budget airlines have larger legroom 🤦♂️
8:51
Hello from Minsk;)
Thanks for a video!
I don’t understand the 02:50 departure time, is that a late night flight or early morning ?? What kind of timing is that lol
I don't understand what you don't understand. 02:50 is universally understood to mean just that: 2:50 AM, in the early morning. If someone has been up all day, thinking of it as late at night is understandable too, but of course it's technically early morning. What else could it mean? And it's the same if you're using a 12-hour or 24-hour clock. What kind of timing do you use?
James Clendon No need to be rude, was just asking. Cause I’d never heard of a dead middle of the night departure before.
I also work for an airline, honestly I've never realized that an A330 can fly that far because for flight this far we usually use A350 or B-777.
Iberia flies its A330 from Madrid to Tokyo
Aer Lingus flies A330s to LA and San Francisco from Dublin. They also flew to China during 2020 to collect PPE equipment
This is nothing lol. Before Air China bought 777-300ER, the A330 was used on a lot of ridiculous long routes such as PEK-GRU for example 😂
7:48 somehow i imagine that you keep on pressing the remote until you landed yet you still havent finish exploring their IFE. 😂
I managed to explore its IFE during the whole journey! well, the content Air China provided was nothing short of a 13 hour nightmare.
I have never been onboard.. but i do have a question, did the aircraft type show up when we booking their ticket, so we can avoid what so-called old aircraft ??
Sometimes. Depend on where you make your booking. But you can always google the flight number for example CA978 and then see which type of aircraft are used.
8:51 Minsk, Belarus
Awesome video you've got David :D
Chat: CORONOVIRUS HEHEHELOLOLOL
Also chat: STOP WITH THE CORONVIRUS GUYS CHECK THE DATE!
I had a flight with and oman air a330 200 in economie it was the best economy class i have ever flown i
How do they use air stairs are they too broke for a gate?
woww
what would be a good star alliance alternative to Air China?
ANA, Asiana, and Singapore are all excellent carriers but can err on the pricier side. Thai and EVA tend to price lower but might be a bit worse from a product/service perspective, not nearly as bad as this though. Don't be fooled by Shenzhen Airlines, that's also Air China.
Did that Air China A330 Economy trip from PEK to CGK back in April. Miserable! I'm not a big person, but that was the least amount of legroom I've ever experienced! What is the seat pitch anyway? 28-29"?
Between 16.5"-17.5" actually. Decent size for an Asian person but yeah it's a nightmare for Caucasians and Latinos
But still I would still fly with them (domestic flights within China) simply because the airline is always get prioritized for basically everything related to air travel due to Air China frequently being used by CCP officials and high-profile celebrities/VIPs
I think long-haul in an a330 would be like long-haul in a Boeing 767...
A wonderful experience, unless you compare it to doing the same trip in a 777-300er..
David: thanks for the ride, instead of, thanks for the lovely flight.
Me: 😱
John Aguirre that was the dead giveaway! 😁
I noticed that too.
What security control you referred about?
Hi @simply-aviation really enjoy your videos, food very unappetising and those anaemic hash browns!! Did you put what the flight cost? Sorry, will have to watch again..
Ótima Aeronave Amigo Belo Vídeo
damn that must hv been a painful legroom
How is not diming lights still a thing?
Feels like most Asian airlines makes effort to renew their fleet both outside and inside, and everyone competes about having the best inflight service etc. All except Air China
BTW, the male 'FA' you see pushing the trolley at breakfast time is actually a security officer
No wonder why they look so intimidating, I noticed on my fight as well from ISB - KHI - PEK
It's economy, if the price was right then it was an OK flight. At least the seats weren't 3-3-3.
Look at Virgin Atlantic, they offer way better economy than this
th-cam.com/video/Iz9fpnwBUlE/w-d-xo.html
I flew in their 787 and it was great. The problem might be the A330
330s are older, but still much younger fleet than almost all european airlines and american airlines.
As a high school student living in Beijing, Air China is definitely the airline that I fly most frequently. A 2008 built aircraft is actually pretty old in Air China‘s fleet. No matter it's legroom, in-flight entertainment or even seat itself can be out of date. But, thier newer aircraft is actually fine. 787, A350, 747-8 and the 3-3-3 economy seat configuration 777s are my top choices, if the flight is not operated by these aircrafts, I would prefer to choose other airlines.
Bro I agree. I am actually flying tommorrow on Air China on a Boeing 787 from Dubai International Airport to Beijing Capital Airport. I am OK with the airline, but I would prefer China Southern Airlines as the service is just better.
I thoroughly enjoy every one of your videos and frequently watch them more than once. I am very happy when I get a notification that you have posted a new video. I just do not understand why anyone would give any of your videos a thumbs down...I guess you can't please everyone... On another note, have you ever been on a KLM flight where King Willem-Alexander is one of the pilots? I think that would be very cool...keep up the good work!
Good Thing I didn't choose them for my trip to Vietnam. But Thai in economy wasn't really good too (but still much better than Air China).
The flyovers were the best frill!
I’ve flown far worse internally in China on a Russian Tupolev. Nice video, thank you.
@@arielkravchinski2616 - Haha, from what I’ve seen, yes. 👍
1. Legroom is pretty enough there for any Chinese guy, they didn't took Austrian sizes into measure.
2. Airbus aircraft except few very first models are usually safer, higher quality and more advanced technology built than any Boeing model ever. It even feels safer in flight.
3. Why don't you taste that meal before concluding that it was bad? I personally love chinese candies and sweets. (they might be not natural through nd look unusual :) but they taste just amazing).
4. You bought world's "cheapest per mile" flight ticket, Nearly four times as cheap than gas cost for Fiat Cinquecento at same distance, and you still worry about old entertainment system :D .
My two flights with Air China from Germany to China and back were really good. Much better than any american airline.
ANYTHING is better than an american based carrier.
Bettering an American carrier isn’t a very high bar to clear.
Comparing chinese carries against american carriers is like a fight on who has the biggest dick while knowing your dicks are small
oh nice, the A330 was born in the year I was.
You guys don’t know but pilots in air China relatively have a very high salary that’s why he has an Austrian pilot
SKG Not anymore
Secret Explorer they still do my relative works as a pilot in China southern
Your always one of my fav aviation channel
Someone who can tell me if air china its a confident airline???
You SHOULD be bothered with the crew not dimming the cabin lights on a night takeoff. If the takeoff is aborted and the plane has to be evacuated, having your eyes adjusted to darkness may mean the difference between life and death. Specifically some Chinese airlines don't dim the lights, but even if Chinese laws don't require it, international aviation regulations do, and Chinese airlines are not exempt from following them - even more so on a flight to Europe.
Japanese airlines do so as well.
Thank you. It bothered me that David would imply he doesn't care for lights being dimmed. So he doesn't care for his safety? An aviation buff should know better. It should bother him immensely.
A Random Person how does that even make sense
Definitely something to take note of, it could be potentially dangerous
As a Chinese I can honestly tell you that Air China is the only Chinese carrier that take off and land without light dimmed
China southern, Hainan airlines and china eastern definitely offer better services and products ! Also wish that you can try xiamen air long haul flight since you've already tried Hainan airlines, csair and ceair's long haul products
Only China Southern that is great now. China Eastern is a crap and Hainan has some financial difficulties due to the pandemic. A bit sad actually since I quite enjoying their UK to China flights
The empty dish is a hint that no meal service would have been better! Their famous "Mystery meat" sandwich 😊
I flew with them on short-haul and it’s also not worth it. The interior were so old compared to the age of the aircraft.
that's one prehistoric looking IFE...
Can you review their 747-8 someday?