Honestly, i love using this in hulldown situations. While it doesnt have great armor, the multiple layers and the angled turret front is extremely trolly and can bounce darts at times, and because no armor if you do get penned then damage is rather minimal because no spall so the enemy has to directly hit components like crew or ammo to actually do stuff
Well, to give an idea on why wheeled gun tank destroyers are a thing, they are rapid response vehicles which are intended to support units under fire from enemy armor or keep an enemy force distracted long enough so that proper heavy armor can arrive and deal with the enemy
Oh absolutely. It's definitely not meant to be directly in the line of fire. Just like the Stryker MGS and ATGM platforms, they're direct fire support and increase the firepower quickly where needed but are not, in any way, replacements for tanks.
@@PanzerPaw yeah, tho unlike the Type 16 and B1 Centauro. Stryker is just an assault gun, not a wheeled TD like those 2. It generally carries very minimal anti tank shells, and uses almost entirely HE or HEAT shells to provide direct fire support for infantry against stuff like fortifications. Type 16 and Centauro tho are ment to deal with a wider variety of threats and scenario's, and thus normally carry a more balance variety of munitions
WMA301 is also 9.0 ( it was finally slightly moved up ) and it can use tandem missiles with 750mm pen. So i would consider it as the most annoying vehicle, mostly because for a long time it was 8.7 and i think it was 8.3 for sometime too.
To be fair, the engines are really loud for almost all wheeled vehicles to make it harder for the speedy ones to pull up on your ass at 90 kmh without hearing it first lol
"why is this map so poorly designed" i mean you said it yourself, its a low tier world war map where optics are next to nothing on tanks. Of course a small map like this when you have fast af velocity ammo and x30 optics is gonna seem like its "poorly designed". This is actually my fav map in early maps because A,B and C are all within the town which leaves C open, might sound dumb but for low tier there are some nice sniping spots along the cliff face. Its on the Snail for not implementing a "BR Map" so BR XYZ gets maps 12345 and BR ABC gets maps 678910
Love this channel because you don't have byass when playing you get games like I do and I realize it's not a skill issue it's just bad luck and mid internet. Great video as always
I mean the normal Type 16 is my second Most spawned vehicle, but the FPS is a nice Premium for this BR. But the Type 60 (c) he used in His lineup is way funnier since the seperate Barrel shots
It's quite funny how this thing can soak up the Object 279s shell in the direct front of the hull and I believe I saw where there was a 150mm plate of some kind kinda hidden strangely enough.
So actually modern vehicles that run automatic transmission sound like the engine is going to blow up when you accelerate because they all shift super late. At least in my experience. Jltvs, 7 tons, hmwwvs, Ect. The engines are terrible
I'd love to see you play with the T-35. It has no armor BUT it was designed by the soviets so you have more crew than the enemy has shells. It's big box of fun. This and Somua SM were the best purchases I made in this game.
Nah wolfpack is much better than premium type 16 due the pen of a shell, either give us better shell or bring it back to 8.7. It's a pay 2 lose tank if you encounter some more armored tanks against other wheelers it's still fine.
Iirc South Africa made the Rooikats as they wanted highly mobile vehicles for bounding across the wilderness whilst having the firepower to wreck T-55s. Unsure about the others but I'd assume mobility over long ranges.
The 2.3 - 3.7 line up for russia is very good, but boring as usually my line up is wacky looking vehicles instead of useful ones, but russia just has boring looking useful tanks. Boring in my opinion as they arent a car with a 20mm or a strange looking open top, russian stuff sometimes is neat but the T-34, KV and IS just look like the same guy designed them all, even though I know they weren't. I thought about buying the type 16 but I couldnt at whats around 80$ for me and its pretty easy to kill imo.
with this going on sale recently top tier is flooded with these and all the players are dumb absolutely dumb rushing caps right away absolutely stupid....im not a great player by any means and im just over a 1to1 kd with this thing with like 41 kills and 40 deaths and if they had an assist counter this would be by far one of the highest vehicles i have with assists but when i tell ppl dont rush caps in chat of course they say "shut up" "noone asked" then they rush cap and get killed...use the thermals and good zoom and speed to harrass enemy from edges of map...with the type 74 and 16 i researched ranks 1 through 3 into 4 in one sitting this is one of the best one two punches in game and when u get killed in the type 16 the 74s round spalls so good and if u hit lower front of any tank its a 1 shot
Theres a reason why people call the Type-16s annoying, its because they're such a low br. Its almost got Abrams pen, is really fast, had better thermals then almost everything, lrf. Its stupid good when its fighting T-55s that cant even have a chance at fighting back because it can't even see it, let alone shoot at it with accuracy, all the Type-16s should go up. The P and FPS to 9.3 or 9.7, and the actual one to like 10.0-10.3
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf, my brother in the holy Christ above, shut the fuck up. Go watch most other TH-camrs videos and you'll see what I mean. Oddbawz recently did a video on this vehicle too. Also how is any 8.0 supposed to fight this when it's 4km away in a bush covered in bushes, while it's 3rd gen thermals stare you down, and it's lrf gives it perfect accuracy, while the T-55A and M60A1 (AOS) can't see farther then 1.5kms and you have to manually range that only goes up to 800m. My suggestion is literally fucking never speak again
Wait until he hears about the wma-301.
The wma301 is slower in all ways it just has guided missiles and they ain’t even that useful
@@HOTTHUNDERWAR better apds-fs too
WMA is honestly not even that good. The gun depression and reverse speed are absolute terrible which are the most important features for a light tank.
I still remember 8.3 domination when WMA 301 was at 8.3
@@yuyangliao9895 yea look at the other two cry babies above saying it wasn't op
Honestly, i love using this in hulldown situations. While it doesnt have great armor, the multiple layers and the angled turret front is extremely trolly and can bounce darts at times, and because no armor if you do get penned then damage is rather minimal because no spall so the enemy has to directly hit components like crew or ammo to actually do stuff
Fur?
Well, to give an idea on why wheeled gun tank destroyers are a thing, they are rapid response vehicles which are intended to support units under fire from enemy armor or keep an enemy force distracted long enough so that proper heavy armor can arrive and deal with the enemy
Oh absolutely. It's definitely not meant to be directly in the line of fire. Just like the Stryker MGS and ATGM platforms, they're direct fire support and increase the firepower quickly where needed but are not, in any way, replacements for tanks.
@@PanzerPaw yeah, tho unlike the Type 16 and B1 Centauro. Stryker is just an assault gun, not a wheeled TD like those 2. It generally carries very minimal anti tank shells, and uses almost entirely HE or HEAT shells to provide direct fire support for infantry against stuff like fortifications. Type 16 and Centauro tho are ment to deal with a wider variety of threats and scenario's, and thus normally carry a more balance variety of munitions
The armor is trolly because of volumetric, sometimes I shoot it and my APFSDS dissapears
That and a lot of empty space. It's one of those tanks where facing sideways to the enemy can sometimes work better lol
fun fact, American Desert gets a rework with the next update
WMA301 is also 9.0 ( it was finally slightly moved up ) and it can use tandem missiles with 750mm pen. So i would consider it as the most annoying vehicle, mostly because for a long time it was 8.7 and i think it was 8.3 for sometime too.
"It might be OK for WW2 when tanks can't accurately shoot that far..." *misses in a modern tank* :P
To be fair, the engines are really loud for almost all wheeled vehicles to make it harder for the speedy ones to pull up on your ass at 90 kmh without hearing it first lol
"why is this map so poorly designed" i mean you said it yourself, its a low tier world war map where optics are next to nothing on tanks. Of course a small map like this when you have fast af velocity ammo and x30 optics is gonna seem like its "poorly designed". This is actually my fav map in early maps because A,B and C are all within the town which leaves C open, might sound dumb but for low tier there are some nice sniping spots along the cliff face. Its on the Snail for not implementing a "BR Map" so BR XYZ gets maps 12345 and BR ABC gets maps 678910
I love my type 16, type 16 and type 16 lineup, lots of fainmail coming my way
get ready for at least one more Type 16 because i know which one and it will come one day.
Meanwhile I bounce around in my Rooikat family!
I am thinking of grabbing the Type 16 soonish. Is the lack of pen compared to DM33 a pain or nah?
@@tedparkinson2033VRCC better
@@stefanwijnsma3202 except does Italy not have a 9.7 lineup?
Love this channel because you don't have byass when playing you get games like I do and I realize it's not a skill issue it's just bad luck and mid internet. Great video as always
No there is lots of bias in War Thunder
Chains are also effective for muddy situations, not just snow. :)
I mean the normal Type 16 is my second Most spawned vehicle, but the FPS is a nice Premium for this BR. But the Type 60 (c) he used in His lineup is way funnier since the seperate Barrel shots
As an 8.0 enjoyer I just hate when those thing drive to our spawn and they kill us
Great video!
Edit: first like btw
You said warthunder thermals aren’t actuate. How do they actually look? 1:35
It's quite funny how this thing can soak up the Object 279s shell in the direct front of the hull and I believe I saw where there was a 150mm plate of some kind kinda hidden strangely enough.
7:21 ALL YOU HAD TO DO
WAS FOLLOWING THE DAMN TRAIN PP
Bruh i hace been asking people for this tank for soo long and now they all drop at the same time lol😂😂❤ love you
Okay a marker that last for you to to shoot at from your drone is the squadron marker. Just set up the bind key as the same for drone target key.
Wait until he hears about the Russian milk truck with an AA on the back of it.
So actually modern vehicles that run automatic transmission sound like the engine is going to blow up when you accelerate because they all shift super late. At least in my experience. Jltvs, 7 tons, hmwwvs, Ect. The engines are terrible
I love the engine noise principally in japanese tanks it gives me chills and remembers me classic cars like the Rx or GTR
Poland is not a bad map at all, it just isn't suited for high and top tier
FYI the tech tree version type 16 was a originally 9.0
Type 16 First Person Shooter 😱😱😱😱
Hello panzer I'm challenging you to use the smallest gun caliber on plane and every kill you upgrade your caliber
I'd love to see you play with the T-35. It has no armor BUT it was designed by the soviets so you have more crew than the enemy has shells. It's big box of fun. This and Somua SM were the best purchases I made in this game.
Of course soviet bias
American Desert map is the worst
People that has the train tracks on the right, their spawn are easily spawn camped
This thing loves to ignore physics and bounce DM33 all day
Completely agree I hate it
I like how this is better than the Radkampfwagen yet it is .7 BR lower 😑
with a way worse round.
how can you even compare a unmanned turret to a manned turret??
Can agree, wish it was never real
Nah wolfpack is much better than premium type 16 due the pen of a shell, either give us better shell or bring it back to 8.7. It's a pay 2 lose tank if you encounter some more armored tanks against other wheelers it's still fine.
K9 vidatr when it comes out
Play the m22 in war thunder please
10:32 😊 you meen su 100 Y
its weird because there technically not tanks 13:48
Iirc South Africa made the Rooikats as they wanted highly mobile vehicles for bounding across the wilderness whilst having the firepower to wreck T-55s.
Unsure about the others but I'd assume mobility over long ranges.
@@tedparkinson2033 i was going off of what makes a tank a tank
with a br of 9.3 and a shitty dart such as M735, it is annoying no more
AML is worse , you cant see it and its not making any noise plus it can pen anything. I can at least see type 16 and 1 shot it.
The 2.3 - 3.7 line up for russia is very good, but boring as usually my line up is wacky looking vehicles instead of useful ones, but russia just has boring looking useful tanks. Boring in my opinion as they arent a car with a 20mm or a strange looking open top, russian stuff sometimes is neat but the T-34, KV and IS just look like the same guy designed them all, even though I know they weren't. I thought about buying the type 16 but I couldnt at whats around 80$ for me and its pretty easy to kill imo.
why do you play with such ping?
I love how he is a average player compared to phlydaily so you can actually use the reviews
You guys have drones??? 😕😅
Can you test the Calliope
no armor best armor
280mm Ping, Lol
reason why this thing is so annoying coming from me is how quiet its engine is...well most wheeled vehicle are ridiculously quiet
Centoro 120 or m1128 arre better
Yeah, the Type 16 is hella annoying.
with this going on sale recently top tier is flooded with these and all the players are dumb absolutely dumb rushing caps right away absolutely stupid....im not a great player by any means and im just over a 1to1 kd with this thing with like 41 kills and 40 deaths and if they had an assist counter this would be by far one of the highest vehicles i have with assists but when i tell ppl dont rush caps in chat of course they say "shut up" "noone asked" then they rush cap and get killed...use the thermals and good zoom and speed to harrass enemy from edges of map...with the type 74 and 16 i researched ranks 1 through 3 into 4 in one sitting this is one of the best one two punches in game and when u get killed in the type 16 the 74s round spalls so good and if u hit lower front of any tank its a 1 shot
Annoying in what sense? clarify who for lol
Wait till he figures out USA, France, italian tech trees exist-
Annoying for team
R3 T20 or ZSU 57 2 😂 is more annoying
its shit imo
First
Theres a reason why people call the Type-16s annoying, its because they're such a low br. Its almost got Abrams pen, is really fast, had better thermals then almost everything, lrf. Its stupid good when its fighting T-55s that cant even have a chance at fighting back because it can't even see it, let alone shoot at it with accuracy, all the Type-16s should go up. The P and FPS to 9.3 or 9.7, and the actual one to like 10.0-10.3
Just bad players without sounds
the video literally showed the opposite, it is not the vehicle, you just simply got rekt byt better players.
My only suggestion is learn to play.
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf, my brother in the holy Christ above, shut the fuck up. Go watch most other TH-camrs videos and you'll see what I mean. Oddbawz recently did a video on this vehicle too. Also how is any 8.0 supposed to fight this when it's 4km away in a bush covered in bushes, while it's 3rd gen thermals stare you down, and it's lrf gives it perfect accuracy, while the T-55A and M60A1 (AOS) can't see farther then 1.5kms and you have to manually range that only goes up to 800m. My suggestion is literally fucking never speak again