JourneyQuest S03E09 - "Black Robe Stuff"
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Yieris save us, Perf is becoming a Disneymancer! *lol*
Careful. Disneylord have lots and lots of lawyermancers . It can end badly for you,
Does that mean he can use the force now?
1 Hanley (what is the name of the assain?) Q based on David Harshman
2 The Wicked Kings (Who hired the assassin?) Q from David Harshman
3 yes
4 Rilke (who will I fall for?)
5 15
6 the page of the OCLYSMA
7 A Rock (how did Perf beat the Orc shaman) Q from Troommate
8 Being Born on the night of two moons (what is the significance of the tattoo)
9 The Apple of life (what is the cure for his undead state)
10 A 99 Page spell that will unmake the world (how will the world end)
11 yes
12 cinder (Who is Carrow talking too?)
13 Blue silk brocade in the spring and teal in the fall (what should I ware)
14 the blue mountains past the Everwood (were will I mete the party again? maybe)
15 the year of folly
16 a corpse worm (what is writen on the wall?)
17 cousins (what is the ranger to the assassin? maybe)
18 wizardium
19 Gloria will kill him (how will her boyfriend die? "might" be a red herring)
20 it's sleeing
21 no
22 yes
23 Yes
24 Maybe
25 The dead son
26 You'll lose it again if you break any more tenant's (will I lose my epic)
27 you'd better hurry (can I catch up too them)
Thanks
I think the 99 page spell is the spell that Perf has been working on since the start of the series O.O
I think the spell he was working on was actually the one near the end.
omnisquirrel what if they are one and the same?
I believe answer 25 is actually the dead ‘sun’ based on what Nara said towards the end.
"Bardic immunity." *smiles* "Never heard of it!"
it means u can kill him. That one killed me. i was hard laughing for nearly 5 minutes :)
The entire scene between Wren and The Oracle was brilliant!
Bard lady's a genius. Gonna do just that the next time I D&D a game with oracles in it.
Only works if your character is the type to make lists...including the list of all the questions they want to ask, even though they know they only get 3 questions...
You must take the OCD handicap when creating your character to be able to do that.
Most DMs/oracles simply wouldn't allow that trick, since it is essentially trying to ask more than one question in one sentence. You might get away with it if all the questions at least refer to a related topic and are cleverly fused together in one really long question sentence, but just "Hey, I've got a list of questions here, what is the answer to all of those?" normally shouldn't work, it is just asking more than one question through another medium than direct speach (Read my mind - or read my written list - and answer my 20 questions that you see there). Even the oracle here said that she really shouldn't do it, but drops the objection either because she likes Wren and pities her for loosing two of her questions and/or because she is really sorry for the other group that they wasted their questions and wants them to get the important hints from Wren. If Wren had just been trying to be a smartass from the start and tried that list idea from the very beginning, the oracle likely wouldn't have allowed it.
Q1: What can I do (for the Oracle??) that will make you more inclined to fully answer my third question?
Q2: My Main Question
Q3: The trick is to ask for a single thing, a list, in response to a list. An enumerated list being a single thing, I ask what is the full, most informative and easily interpreted single enumerated list that provides the information requested in the following single enumerated list, .... .
As I discussed in another thread, I think it helpful for a DM to explain WHY an oracle can answer only N questions. Otherwise, you get crap like this with rules lawyers trying to weasel around the rules. "But you said...."
If you just say an oracle is psychically strained after answering questions, or they lose blood, or it costs lots of coin/ xp/ whatever, you now have a practical justification for limiting questions. And most importantly, it's not just an arbitrary rule, there's a price being paid.
Some people follow the spirit of a law, others the letter. I follow the spirit, and letter followers piss me off. If you think you're clever and found some loophole to exploit, don't whine to me when you suddenly suffer far more than you expected.
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You know... I always liked this series since first episode... the story, the characters, the feel... but this third sesson must be one of the greatest thing i have ever saw! I am surprised, I am excited, I AM HONORED to be one of the first to see it!
Well acted, well produced, and so, so, so well written!
Wonderful foreshadowing! I look forward to going back and re-watching this episode once the series is done to see how everything fits into place.
Loved the whole thing, but blew me away with the song at the end! Lol!
Thank you, ZOE!
cannot wait for season 4!
That performance by Perf at the end was adorable!
The Bard’s “question” was amazing!!! I have been waiting to say that since JQ3 was on Patreon. So clever!!! Thanks ZOE!!!
Oh sod that ending was brutal. All that for a no. Now thats drama. Love it
Beautiful. Funny. Inspiring. This series is definitely one of the best things I've ever seen put to video.
This series is so amazing. I really hope you make your goals for season 4's funding.
Y'all have no idea how glad I am that someone actually figured out the 3 questions trick. Ask for the answer to your questions; it is so damn simple a trick
The apple of life? Really? Well, I was waiting for the connection to the gamers, and now I have it
Also the Oracle herself, and the Genie, and all of Fartherall.
I... am slightly ashamed, that I did not noticed that.
Don't be embarrassed. Now you get to have fun finding all the other connections. There are many more.
It seems unpublished videos still show up on published playlists, just discovered your series after looking up darkest dungeon, great job :)
The Oracle is probably going to be my favourite character of this season, ahahaha XD
I missed this one, noticed that that the Episode 10 looked a little off. Damn you TH-cam, tell me when these pop up, this is my heroin
This is a fantastic series - great job!
Great job as ever, guys! Can't wait to see the next episode. :D
Wait... She asked *3* questions, she shouldn't have any more left!
OH COMMON! HE WORKED HARD ON THAT ILLUSION-BIT, AT LEAST LET HIM FINISH!
No, she didn't, only two (what she put in the tart an whether that counted as a question). The "and that did, too." was a Statement, not a question, and everything she said after that was expressly labled as "Statement", she drew her own conclusions from what the oracle had said and explicitely didn't ask whether her conclusions were right. The oracle was so nice to confirm that her conclusions were right in spite of not having been asked, but that didn't make it count as a question.As for the Illusion Thing, I think Nara might have silenced him because she just heard something alarming from the real world, maybe Glorion approaching.
YES. Finally someone intelligent enough to ask the right question :D I was literary screaming at the screen last episode when they messed it up xD Too bad she had like 20 of them, would make it much harder to sort it out. :))
Now to go back to 5:25 and write down all the answers and try to figure them out :D
already did haha!
I caught " . . . a 99-paged spell that will unmake the world . . ."
You all have one week to figure out which of these answers are about the next episode... and which are for Seasons 4 or 5.
1 Hanley
2 The Wicked Kings
3 yes
4 Rilke
5 15
6 the page of the Ecclesia (OCLYSMA)
7 A Rock
Here is were she explains spelling of the Oclysma and says too write it down were the count goes off a bit
8 O C L Y S M A
9 Being Born on the night of two moons
10 The Apple of life (what is the cure for his undead state)
11 A 99 Page spell that will unmake the world (how will the world end)
12 yes
13 cinder
14 Blue silk brocade in the spring and teal in the fall (what should I ware)
15 the blue mountains past the Everwood
16 the year of folly
17 a corpse worm
18 cousins (what is the ranger to the assassin? maybe)
19 wizardium
20 Gloria will kill him (how will her boyfriend die? "might" be a red herring)
21 it's sleeing
22 no
23 yes
24 Yes
25 Maybe
26 The dead son
27 You'll lose it again if you break any more tenant's (will I lose my epic)
28 you'd better hurry (can I catch up too them)
wait sould one of the questions be how did you get pineapple ontop a mountain
Best ending. Character growth, perf expanding his power and a brutally hilarious shutdown.
Brilliant! Love you Guys! :)
Calling it now: she’s going to loose her epic… but save them all. Like a true hero does :P
I'm so excited to see Carrows development in the rest of this season.
Ooh! me too. :)
frisbee golf is awesome, tyvm :P
12:14 that smack on the unicorns ass. gold.
Jesus I almost DIED from second hand embarrassment.
It’s so uncanny how much new new actress for Nara looks like the old one. Great choice.
"This girl, is my destiny, and she said ooh-oohhoooh No."
YES! ENCOURAGEMENT!
OMG, the APPLE OF LIFE card from HANDS OF FATE! (ep15)
Well, that's probably how to revive Carrow.
Its so cool cause is the same actor
I know! Pretty cool, right? I got very excited as well when that connection was made/explained.
Ok... I just met Brian Lewis everyone! I just met Brian Lewis!!
Four of the questions she has she tells us right away, so which of the answers fit to those?1. Who hired the assassin - the wicked kings2. How do I keep my epic - you will lose it if you break any more tenants3. what was written on the wall - a corpse worm (probably, if she refers to the writings in the dungeon in season 2, it might have been a warning from the corpse worm they encounterd. If that is the writing she refers to, can't remember any other right now. But "a page of the oclysma" could also fit. The 99 pages spell would probably be too Long to be the writing on the wall4. What do the tattoos mean - being born on the night of two moons5. What does the sword actually do - tough one, if the list from Katze werfer is correct, none of the answers really seems to fit. Maybe "it's sleeping", meaning that it has a hidden power that will activate only when confronted with the wicked kings and the entity talking and swinging the sword on its own account is just a red herring.
If the sword is the Sword of Sundering (as I suspect,) then it was used to destroy the Oclysma in the Third Age. In doing so, the awakened sword went mad with the power of the Oclysma. So, "a page of the Oclysma" might be a valid answer for what the Sword does...it is a page of the Oclysma, now.
Interesting thought, but that answer wouldn't quite fit the question, and wording is important with that oracle. The question was what it does, not what it is. But maybe we are both right, maybe she had a second (not outspoken) question on her list "What is the sword of fighting" (Answer: A page of the oclysma) and "What does the sword actually do" (answer: It's sleeping.)
Wait he didn't loses his hat in the intro...........
He lost his sword, though... (not cannon, it was a joke take)
That bugged me an unreasonable amount! xD
Talk to the hand XD
FINALLY! Some good writing! Characterization for Nara! But stilled pissed off because Perf of course instantly forgives her for no reason.
OK I actually preferred the thing with the flower wreath to the whole Disneymancer thing XD
2:22 Gave me a genuine sensation of fear.
Wait, there’s 2 more planned seasons?!?
Apple of life, nice hands of fate reference
Gods...What a train-wreck of a "Spell"HAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHA
Why is the bard the most intelligent one?? Elan is confused but also proud!
Perf casts spell and starts singing to....
would like to have that spell in my Baldurs Gate 3 Arsenal :P
Notification squad is here!
If it is three questions per party, why not split the party and arrive one by one?
Well...I did not expect the music...
Another great episode. Thank you guys so much. I am loving this season and the Carrow story so much. I was wondering two things. Bob Sapp the Barbarian king, is he ever coming back to finish that arc? Also, can I take the concept of Carrow for my D&D game?
In theory, yes. And go for it!
I've got to ask - have any of the actors ever played their characters in a D&D game?(Outside of the shows and series, obviously).
We've played our characters several times in KS Backer rewards games. Either online, or at GenCon. I never like to play my characters in that setting though, I always prefer playing a different character from the series(es)
5:30 Ahahahahhahahahahaha, genius.
Alot of good music in this season. Will it be released individually?
Nooooooo!!!!! You can’t end the episode like that!!!!!not cool guys not cool!
MUHAHAHAHAHA
Tony Becerra No Becerra! The power of fandom compels you!.......To make longer episodes! Lol jk I love the show.
When did Perf take classes from Bardic College?
Glorian kills perf or the Ork, Apple of life is for carro or the person who dies. That's all I got from the psychic.
Oh, thank the gods.
Something I don't quite get.
If no one at all knows what these two destinies are, isn't it exactly the same as just having one, as without any knowledge of what it is, you can't actively choose which it is, and tampering is just as likely to lead to causing the calamity as it is to stopping it.
It seems as though just doing what you feel is right and letting the chips land where they will is just as likely to avoid whatever the future potential consequence.
Well, in a world where there is divination Magic (probably not only the oracle alone), a dual destiny is special in that it is NOT set and the outcome can not be predicted by divination. Well, the orcle maybe could predict the two possible outcomes, but she likely isn't allowed to tell anyone, especially not Nara herself, because telling her about the possible outcomes would affect which destiny she'd choose.
But without the ability to know what those destinies are, there exists only one. The one that the person that has the two destinies would go down at the point at which the moment of decision appears.
If anything, it's the ones with destinies that aren't set are the ones that can be determined by divination, as by learning what their destiny is, they can then actively change it. Meanwhile, the person who doesn't even know what their destinies are will simply blindly stumble into one or the other.
She knows that her actions could lead to disaster, but there's also no guarantee that it'll be a major part of her life either, and that isn't enough information to really go off. Similar to how Poldarn in the Scavenger Trilogy ended up bringing disaster to the lands that he was prophecised to because he on occasions innocuously helped an old woman travel to the cities she was visiting, not knowing that she was caring for and releasing plague rats.
On the contrary, most classical myths and also many novels that feature definite prophecies (i.e. prophecies that go: "X will happen" rather than "X will happen if you do Y") imply that the prophecied destiny is set and that any attempt to prevent it from coming true will fail or even involuntarily cause the prophecy to become true, because that fate was entirely set from the beginning, including the fact that someone will learn of that fate by means of a prophecy and will try to prevent it. A prominent example would be the myth of Ödipus, whom his parents abandon in the wild to die as a baby because a prophecy said that he will slay his father and marry his mother - which causes him to be rescued and to grow up without any knowledge who his father or his mother are, slay the unknown stranger he meets on his travels during a struggle (not knowing that he is his father) and later falling in love and marrying the young widow, whom he would never have courted if he had known that she was his mother.Granted, prophecies are much less useful that way, but they also make much more sense, since if there wasn't a set destiny, it would be impossible to "see" any event in the future that still depends on any decisions other than that of the person asking for the prophecy.
as far as I could get in a rush here is the Q&A.
questions:
who hired the assassin
how do i keep my epic
what was written on the wall
what the tattoos mean
what the sword actualy does
answeres:
hennly
the wiked kings
yes
rillk
15
a page of the ocylsma
a rock
ocylsma
being born on the night of the two moons
the apple of life
a 99 page spell that will unmake the world
yes
cinder
blue silk brookade in the spring and teal in the fall
the blue mountains passed the everwoods
the year of fally
a courpse worm
cousins
the wizardioum
glorion will kill him
its sleeping
no
yes
yes
maybe
the dead sun
you will loose it again if you break anymore tenants
How often does Silver Tom break bardic rules?
Was that really perf singing or was his voice "helped"?? If that was really him then that was a damn good job!!
It's really Perf.
Zombie Orpheus Entertainment hell yeah!!! Thats awesome :-)
That's all Christian.
One could tell that the actor is not a pro at singing, but still it was a very good performance and it was fitting that way, it wouldn't be like Perf if he sang like a learned musical actor. Of course, Perf could have used the Illusion to also polish himself and his singing voice for the occasion, but that would have made his declaration of love even more cheesy, it comes across as much more authentic and honestly speaking from the heart that he remains plain old Perf in his ugly yellow robes and with his normal voice.
Christian has been a pro musician for years.
Did anyone else notice that this is the first episode where they dont say the title in the episode?
Perf does, at the campfire.
Nope, watched it again to make sure. He talks about being a white robe but nothing about black robes.
It's said a long time ago when he's talking to Nara. The very first episode..."I've been working on a new spell, real black robe stuff." But yes, not quite in this episode. th-cam.com/video/pVORGr2fDk8/w-d-xo.html
Technically, no one said S02E08's title "Fall into Darkness", but that was because it was a cut line from the angel.
the bard did he play in the episode Who pooped the bed in always sunny just curious...big fan of your channel
That is Fran Kranz, yes.
Andy D I thought so tyvm
p.s. huge fan bro
Love to hear that!
What's the name of the orc again? Great character
Rilk
Does anyone know if the complete song has ever been produced?
+Zombie Orpheus Entertainment Mistake in the title-- video should be called "Black Robe Stuff", not "One Simple Thing" (that was last week's ep)
Fixed
Awesome! Looking forward to next week's comment section :P
Yeah, they really haven't guessed what's coming yet...
To be fair, it would be hard to predict. I know I was surprised.
PLEASE don't let glorion kill him! He's too perfect even though we don't know his name
Every 1100 years? That's random
Waitaminnit is that the same oracle from hands of fate?
Yes.
*abrupt record scratch*
Is there a soundtrack available?
Am I on drugs?
Are the writers on drugs?
What's happening?
Wait maybe it's a bit late to ask but sod means fuck right?
OH MY GODS... Perf: "I'm working on a new spell... A black robe stuff..." That surely was, Perf, that was hideous. :D
Poor prf
Oh hey first comment on a new episode. That's pretty neat.
i like the series. but since the oracle i dislike the elf
After the last Episode, I thought so, too, but what she reveals in this episode is at least partially redeeming her, after all she likely does have a dual fate and the consequences would likely be desastrous if she screwed up. With that info, it wasn't selfish to put her question over Carrows, although still illoyal towards Carrow as a friend.
Unless you fate related to Carrow directly lol, that would be a kicker.
Not that Carrow is much of a kicker any more, if you know what we mean.
I mean none of our 3 heroes are kicking anything but the bucket at this point. At Least one of them is still alive even is she isn't kicking.
Ouch :D
Magically putting her in a dress is a bit creeepy.
You can always trust the incompetent low-level wizard to competently muck things up. ("Oh, I know what will surely be seen as a romantic gesture! Enter phantasmagorical Disneyworld!")
Very true!
Don’t mix incompetence with creepyness.
It's creepy.
wow. dude is hard for her.
Wait wait wait... the Bard girl was tricked the same way as Perf... wasting a couple of questions... than she asked like 5 question in a row... and the Oracle told her to ask her question carefully... what the Hell? Shouldn't she had been bound to have answered the very first question of the row only? I mean if you burn out a question anytime you ask a question like it was shown before... than she get to ask to answer all her questions on her list... how... convenient... you'd think either Perf or Nara would have thought of that one, its not like Bards are known to be particularly wise... she is wiser than Perf but I'd have expected less than Nara. You'd expect the Oracle would have answered question asked based on a very specific formula, like 'My first question... my second question... my third question... ' rather than have such a non-sense way of proceeding as she was shown to have, if she was willing to basically interrupt the Bard girl to allow her to set up her question properly it would mean she would have a fairly loose process and not bound by all that strict a set of rules.
Next Nara... ok so she had a extremely loose prophecy made about her...potentially... yet originally she seemed like 100% sure that finding the sword was meant to be her destiny, if she had been told 'oh you are destined to do something great or do something terrible... potentially' she wouldn't have been so shocked that somebody else got the sword. Its not like it was the single 'great' destiny that might exist, it feels like a very hollow justification for how things turned out with her.
The rule seems to be that any question counts that is phrased as a question and directed at the oracle in a way that actually requests an answer (but not necessarily being aware that the question counts). Wren started her barrage of questions with a statement like "Oh no, I don't know what to ask for my one question, I had so many questions like ...", which makes quite clear that she hasn't decided yet what to ask and doesn't want the oracle to answer any of the questions she mentions right now. For the same reason, Nara's question "how can you suck at everything" didn't Count, because it was clearly not directed at the oracle.
The BardGirl Orc boyfriend dies
The Bard will lose her Epic if she breaks anymore Tenants.
The Apple of Life may save Caro from being undead or it will save the Bard womans boyfriend from death.
The assassin has a part to play in this more than we know.
someone gets hit or killed with a rock.
Two romantic couples are getting married in different seasons of the year.
The Wizardeum will determine what the Sword can really do ( i think it is them anyway )
It's boring this episode:/ I have no engagement with the elf....
Musical theatre? Wrong genre. Just no.