HEATED! Ranking The Top 5 Premier League Managers Ever!
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Liverpool hated Ferguson with a vengeance but respected him
Fergie is overrated as f.... I'm not hating him man was a legend but srsly when it comes to achievements. outside UK only 2 champion's league with like freaking 20years of coaching.
shut up go back to hello neibhour@@zorashki
@@zorashkieveryone conveniently forgets his greatest feat, winning a European trophy with Aberdeen, beating both Bayern and Madrid. Think of it, Aberdeen, not even Celtic or rangers. They beat Bayern and Madrid to win a European trophy
@@zorashki might have been 4 were it not for Messi
@@zorashkitake a mordern day example as pep after he left barce he didn't win a champions league till last year
But he was always in around quarters final to finals
You have to look at the bigger picture to actually see how a team x or y hes been doing in the champions league consistently
On the Wenger issue and staying too long
If you look how hard it is to be a constant UCL side while paying a stadium he is underrated
If he left arsenal might have faced financial trouble after they moved stadium, Wenger & ferguson are the greatest managers in premier league history no doubt
@@TheChampIsHere_Wenger isn't even close to Fergie.
@@TheChampIsHere_Pep is so high above Wenger lmao.
Wenger doesn’t get nearly enough respect. Man was winning trophies with Senderos and Bendtner and them man. No other man in football could turn water into wine like that.
Both of those players won a single trophy in seasons they didn’t start. Wenger did extremely well through some of those later seasons but that example doesn’t showcase it.
If he had won that CL in 2006, then he would be a lot higher up in people's minds.
@@lucasr4646 from 2006 to 2014 he made a profit on transfers - unheard of for a big six team. And while making a profit, through those years he was top 4 every single season without fail. One of the big critiques of Pep is that he couldn’t save a relegation side from relegation - I have no doubt that Wenger could.
@@risheeeesh512Making profit for the owners isn't an achievement you plonk.
respect lord bendtner
I put Wenger at number 2. He won so much with fairly limited resources and at the end of his career with very limited resources. Pep has had an open checkbook. I reckon that Wenger with this Arsenal side would win the Prem quite comfortably.
There’s a huge difference between you reckoning and it actually happening.
I'm a Wenger fanboy and even I can't agree with this. At the end of his Arsenal career, he did actually spend a decent amount. It was the first 16/17 years or so that he didn't spend that much, 2006-2013 especially. Post 2013 , he spent money, it was just spent poorly.
Also, no manager wins this current Premier league comfortably vs this City side.
As a gooner I wouldn't even put him 3rd. He should've won the CL in 04 and 06 and the League in 03 but he bottled all of them. He revolutionised the league but he was stubborn and arrogant and most of his success was more due to his ability to sign players with good potential. I think he would be better as a Sporting Director in the modern game.
This arsenal side is heavily dependent on arteta's tactics. Wenger would have a very different team
@@guneytopal7076 Wenger bottled them??? How old are you, out of interest?
Sean Dyche is my #1 choice.
Go and eat your gravel
I know Bob Paisley didn't coach Liverpool in the PL
but he won ,6 first division titles,3 ucl,4 league cups ,5 shields and a uel in just 9 years
Easily the best
Shield doesn't matter
That's ok but 6 1st division and 3 UCL in 9 years is crazy
@@insidious6636 true
@@insidious6636no FA cups?
To win all those trophies within 9 years is fantastic and is No.1 and l am NOT a Liverpool supporter.
Mark Goldbrige you forgot (bias) that Man.Utd had much more money then the others Club due to the fact that Premier League and the Championsleague was established in the same this period. They could buy the best players from the other clubs.
Some people who say pep is better than SAF are ridiculous pep is a manger who is a great manager but takes easy jobs no rebuilding just open check book and world class structure and team not to mention all his achievements as a city manager is done with 115 ffp charges hanging over his head
Pep is number one. His influence in football wherever he goes speaks volumes.
Plus when he faced Fergie he beat him like Fergie stole something, his hand was shaking seething with anger
115
Deluded city fan as usual?
This is a bindipper/Utd fan channel, Pep would never get any love..he obliterated their system and played good while doing it..everyone else copies his style
There’s too many topical Football shows and podcasts, it’s a massively over-saturated market. Personally I’d much rather see more general content like Going for Goldbridge, Driving with Goldbridge, Walking with Goldbridge, gaming play-throughs… I like the dynamic with Will though, maybe he could get involved in some of it like a double-act at times.
Completely agree. But we love what we do
@@thatsfootball I’m a big fan of the content Mark but just thought I’d voice my opinion on the topic. It wasn’t meant to be hate, just constructive criticism. I’ve always loved the Mark Goldbridge channel and the content on there, so selfishly I’d love to see that become a more regular feature of your content output. Big up as always though, and to Will of course. 👊❤️
You can throw titles in there fair enough BUT
BUT, Klopp and Wenger won things on a lesser budget than their rivals
Klopp Wenger and Fergie brought through youth (as in multiple players into the 1st team) pep and Jose didn't
Pep and Jose walked into teams that were already built and winning things
For these reasons I think pep and Jose belong below Klopp Wenger and fergie
By that logic Big Sam, Tony Pulis and other Sunday league managers should be classed as the best if we're going by budget
No, lol. If you think it is a walk in the park to build on previous success then what about Chelsea (who have spent twice as much as anybody else) and Man United? I'd say the most difficult thing is the generational transition *_while_* you have success. Clubs usually fail when they transition from one generation to the other. Pep has managed that successfully, *_twice._*
@@DavidRegaL-lw5xz
Think you've missed understood my point
2 managers win the league, champions league and world club cup, 1 did it spending half as much, who's better ?
I was making a point that budget, youth promotion etc are all part of this debate
love this podcast mark. I feel like you need to get some guests on I love your stuff but maybe a different third man each episode would give some excitement
Arsenal fan, agree with your list Mark, the only quibble would be Pep in 2nd, it's far easier to impose your philosophy with a shedload of cash. I'm not sure Pep is getting the same out of Klopps Liverpool or early Wenger Arsenal
If money would be all it took then Chelsea should be sitting on a ton of titles. This whole 'Pep is only good because of money' is silly.
Ferguson was at united for 27 years. Pep is half way through fergies trophy count in only his 8th season. No comparison pep’s legacy has changed football.fergies played direct 442. Pep number 1 by a mile.
But he’s Ben Johnson so instantly he is disqualified.
No have a look at United when Fergie tookover and City when Pep tookover.
Wenger changed English Football
How??
You know
He did
@@ankjumper u dumb bro
@@thatsfootball 🧢
Is the full podcast not going to be uploaded to TH-cam then? Just clips and then the full podcast on Spotify?
Based on pure Premier League knowledge and experience, I completely agree with this Top 5, and Goldbridge’s judgement
You're very wise
Pep is GOAT and not just in PL
Fergie
Pep
Wenger
Mourinho
Klopp
Goldbrick hate of pep just eluded his sense of reason,for him to say he only fend off only Klopp
Pep first epl title was against Jose Man U who finished second in 2018
2019 n 2022 was against klopp Liverpool
In 2021 pep won it n it was Man U club that came second under Ole
And finally 2023 he won’t n gust who came in second arsenal under the leadership of Arteta
So I don’t know why he said it’s only klopp that he has to worry about n said Alex won his titles against different managers
Pep, Fergi, Wenger, Jose and Klopp in that order (Pep are more dominant then Fergi but Fergi has more silver) the others are obvious
Pep cheated. None of the others did. They built something.
@@xaymacaxaymaca Not saying Pep didn't, but Jose cheated as well by your logic.
Pep more dominant that’s funny 😂, i can only say his style of football , but mehn you can’t even understand how man utd dominated premier league , you are probably under aged I guess
@@feez0105 i am 48 I watch sinse 1987
@@xaymacaxaymaca 😂😂
No point in making a list that sorts itself out, it's just the number of titles won in descending order
yeah
And he’s always gonna put ferggie 1 even if pep were to win back to back trebles 😂😂
“But but but but but city have 115 charges”😢 😂😂😂😂😂
@@kingkwakster501well it’s kinda true
@@Lewis714 point is he is always gonna pick ferrgie irrespective of what pep or even klopp achieves cus of his bias
That was too heated
I know that the opinion of having money helps when you are a manager is understandable. However, every manager would choose to be in a similar situation to Pep. What makes Pep different are his talent, impact, and influence. Yes he is number 2 but even SAF lost twice to him in the UCL, if not we would have had 4 UCL titles.
I believe he will eventually be number 1 regardless of whether he eclipses the number of trophies of SAF. I would never disrespect SAF but my advice is to appreciate Pep now you can watch him because he is truly special.
Imagine KLOPP having 30% of cities resources
Really solid list -
I love klopp even if we are competing with them because Klopp did wonders with Dortmund that was all pep never did anything without money
Surely big Sam gets an honorable mention for the amount of times he helped teams survive. The opposite end of the spectrum.
also fregy almost got the sack right at the start but battled through.
Pep, Ferguson,Wenger,Jose and klopp
Correct just move Pep between SAF and Arsene
Unpopular opinion: Fergie would not have won half of his titles if he had to compete with Klopp and Pep.
We would never know
Klopp is the only one that has done it with an inferior budget. And he is competing with a state-funded club with 115 charges to their name. He has gotten LFC to 93+ points thrice, which is more than any other manager not named Pep. Let's see how any of the other managers could handle a net spend at 10th spot and a gross spent at 6th.
You should do top 5 managers that never won the league
Luck with the new pub gold bridge aram pub mark mate
Ignoring the financial conditions in which every manager operated is just unfair. Wenger stopped winning titles when Arsenal had to pay for the stadium and there was no money availiable. He had to sell his best players every year for almost a decade. You think Guardiola would do better in such conditions? Also Wenger could have left numerous times and won trophies in other countries but he remained loyal to Arsenal despite the dire financial restrictions.
1.SAF
2.Guardiola
3.Mourinho
4.Wenger
5.Klopp
Fair list...get ready for some delusional Liverpool fans though
Wenger😂
@@gorandamianovici57203 league titles and 7 FA cups 😂😂
Wenger no European trophy's drops him down.
What U think klopp would do with 26 yrs Wenger no European trophy klopp rebuilt Liverpool 3 finals 1 win Wenger even Jose no CL with heavy heart sad is numero in Uno. Klopps 3rd imo pep 2 Wenger 6)7
The legend ❤
KLOPP is the best pound 4 pound and imagine city gets punished we lost 2 leagues for 1 ppint
Fergie, Pep, Jose,Wenger, Klopp, You can swap Klopp and Wenger around if ya want I'm not bothered, Wenger is only above Klopp because of the invincible's and no one else has done it
Pep Jose fergie klopp and wenger in whatever order you see fit
I dont understand why everybody keeps putting mourinho above klopp. Sure he won twice, he did so as a club with infinite money, and he couldn't stay at a club very long, got fired 4 times by 3 different premier league clubs, and whilst he's won the UCL a few times he didnt do that in England.
I agree with top 5,but mark said Wenger stayed too long.
My opinion is Wenger was badly let down,arsenal turned in to a selling club to pay for the stadium.
So many good players sold to there rivals.
While id love to put pep top ...... Fergie did it over soooooo bloody long i cant argue 😂
Pep, SAF, Koop, mourinho, wenger,
Pep's teams have wiped the floor with Sir Alex's team fyi
Pep beat Klopp and mourinho to a prem title and on the wider picture of who was the better manager it’s got to be pep he beat SAF twice in a UCL final and pep has completely changed football forever with how it’s played.
he also add the most resources out of all and the best circumstances
Pep learned from Cruyff, walked into arguably the best club team ever. Went to treble winners and left without a CL. Arrived at a State owned club that also had won PL recently. Every club he’s inherited world class players and an open cheque book. He is the best just now but nowhere near SAF. Looking forward to Pep the Honourable taking on his biggest ever challenge by going to a club like Majorca, Brescia or say QPR and turning them into a dominant force just like SAF did at Aberdeen and of course Cloughie did at Forest/Derby.
@@lawmantheonetrueking3739why would a top coach manage teams like QPR. This is too much
It's like saying pele needs to win a world cup with Uganda to prove that he is the greatest.
Fergie
Pep
Mourinho
Wenger
Klopp
the ball was played out from the back in the 1970s with the dutch
In the Premier League its
1. Ferguson
2. Wenger
3. Pep
4. Jose
5. Klopp
Wenger gets a lot of disrespect. But honestly none of the guys mentioned would have had any amount of success on the shoe string budget that Wenger had. He was also the only one to qualify for Champions league in 20+ straight seasons too. Despite not winning it and I think without a Lehmann Red card in the final maybe that goes differently. But honestly nothing beats the Wenger Fergie era. Brain vs brauns, pennies vs pounds.
i cant think of a manager that guaranteed the season he would win the league with a club when joining. klopp said give me 4 years and we will have a title and 4 years later he wins it
Jose told his team they’d win the league and gave the exact match where they’d win it and he was proven right
We've got the next Mark Goldbridge here
Never in a million years is Arsene Wenger a better manager than Jose Morouinho never never ever get lost
Spot on ranking overall, but Raniere deserves a separate class.
What he did was remarkable
1. Alex 2. Pep 3 & 4 & 5 is Arsene, Klopp & Jose ... take your pick
Ferguson, Wenger (pep if he stays) pep, Jose, klopp
For me, from 1-5, Fergie, Pep, Klopp, Wenger, Mourinho.
Pep is a great manager, but putting him as 2nd greatest PL manager considering the foundation of 115 charges...? 👀 Not sure about that one
Fair point here tbf .. nice comment
Yeah he shouldn't be 2nd, first would be more proper bias aside.
@@OrwellsPeaceLily I said that he's a great manager. His style of football is my favourite to watch. But in relation to him as a 'PL' manager, for me, his legacy is tainted because his success is built on the alleged 115 charges that set the foundations when he walked into City 🤷🏽♂️
@@Nakz74644 Then Jose is 2nd.
he's Ben Johnson so is instantly disqualified for me.
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Jurgen is joint top with Ferguson.
the man the myth the goldbridge
What a wrong list considering that every coach that coached city after their first trophy won the premiere league. The disrespect must stop. Coaching a superteam dies not make you the greatest. Fergusson, wenger, Morrhino, Pep, and Big Sam from my heart
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If these charges go through with city I want Klop to be number 2 on everyone's list cus they always use one title against klop
Klop the Flop is broken
💯 but they won't cos the whole thing is corrupt af
@@micksumo 😢 😢
Need a tissue?
Roy Hodgson deserves honor for almost taking Liverpool to relegation, or what do you think Mark?
And if LFC had been stupid enough (after hiring him in the 1st place) that may well have been the case. Fortunately - even with a huge payout - common sense prevailed.
I agree with that top 5
SAF #1
Ferguson
Pep
Wenger
Mourinho
Klopp
Cruyff 🐐 manager
Best Premier Legaue manager ever ....... do you want to try best manager since 1992? it's a bit more realistic.Bu saying that - since 92 Ferguson, Wenger Pep Mourinho and Klopp. - i am a Liverpool supporter. All different managers all brought different things to the EPL. Ferguson and Mourinho - ruthless winners , Wenger - a genius and changed the english game, Pep a genius and control freak, Klopp the most authentic, the best coach, the best developer of players and also changed the EPL game.
The league existed before 1992 .its the same league just different name.
So the bill shanklys and the Bob Paisley's are being disrespected?
Key words PREMIER LEAGUE
Jose is clearly a better manager at his peak than Wenger for me. I dont even think its a debate.
Pep's not even in my top 5, not with all 115 charges in Man City's head
Steven Gerrard in with a shout surely??
Fergie,pep,jose,wenger,klopp in that order
Will doesn’t have a clue bless him
5 klopp 4 Jose 3 wenger 2 pep 1 Ferguson
Anyone without SAF as number one is just delusional and their rankings are irrelevant.
The more points one or two teams get a season 90+ or whatever, shows that the league isn’t more competitive than the 2000’s I’m bored with that lazy argument
Wenger IN!
Alex Ferguson
Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourinho
Jurgen Klopp
Arsene Wenger
1.Ferguson
2.Wenger
3.Mourinho
4.Pep
5.Klopp
Before i listen to this Ferguson Wenger PEP Mourinho and a toss up for 5th.
OK ser Alex is better than KLOPP regarding success but style of play is on KLOPP side
Alex Ferguson
Pep
Arsene wenger
Jose
Klopp
Mikel Arteta
Frank Lampard
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Steven Gerrard
Roy Hodgson
Ferguson
Pep
Mourinho
Klopp
Wenger
Fergie
Mourinho
Wenger
Klopp
Pep
Klopp do me a favour 🤦♂️
If Sam Allardyce isn't in it, then you dont know ball, simple as 😤
These days they over use the word Heated on yt
Fergie, wenger, pep, klopp, mourinho..
Why is wenger so under rated in these lists 😮
cuz he didn’t win Premier Leagues
@@adheebrifkhanhe did lol
@@bushmonster1702 only 3, everyone else has more
@@adheebrifkhan What year you were born????
@@David1991. 2017
Ferguson
Wenger
Mourinho
Guardiola
Klopp
If Solskjaer's not there, I'm not watchin.
God bless you mark you just hit the nail on the head how can you judge what you don't witness...so people saying Kbd the greatest ans pep also don't even watch Ferguson or Scholes Best Keane Viera Lampard Gerard Makelele So disheartening
My gazpacho soup is more heated than this
is that you Rimmer?
Ferguson
Pep
Klopp
Mourinho
Wenger
Maybe I’m a bit subjective about Klopp and Mou’s positions, but you can’t put Wenger above Klopp
I'll never rate Pep ahead of Jose and Klopp. Hell No!
That's because you're biased
He is clear of klop
That's because your mom and dad are siblings
Through gritted teeth he has won more
Ferguson then who should be the title ….
Where is arteta?