Reason it is late is they have not spent enough money on overtime to get the work done. Or they did not employ enough people to work on it. But then out at Harold Wood we have been waiting a long time for the ticket office to open. I am guessing they have the same team of people working on the surface stations on the line to Shenfield.
hublanderuk a grossly over simplified explanation. They tried pumping more money and labour to speed through commissioning. It didn’t work. The problems are far more complex.
I'm glad it's not just me then. I'm watching this waiting for a list of detailed reasons about how you can be up to 2 years late and not hearing anything. Why on earth would surface stations be so unfinished? What exactly would slow down building the entrence by so much? Just a load of 'I'm really sorry but we are working hard'. Pathetic.
Malacki 655 Singalling issues were mentioned quickly in the beginning. Later we see that the escalators in Bond Street are unfinished. Everything seems to be delayed, concerning the stations. Although my guess is that these issues are not the only ones.
Simple building companies quote early completion dates to win contracts. It's not a 2 storey extension on a semi detached house or new housing estate. It's one of the biggest projects going of course its was going to fall behind schedule
@@stevenking9346 It's not really a matter of building companies making up deadlines. Look up "The Fifteen Billion Pound Railway" on TH-cam and have a look at some of the stuff going on. They have had hundreds of setbacks because of the unexpected things they have to deal with underneath London. They needed to make use of an old Victorian tunnel going under the Thames and they found part-way through that the tunnel was slightly smaller - they didn't know if they could knock those bricks out because they didn't know if those bricks were supporting the weight of the structures above. They have had to drill many additional holes just for grout pumping stations - where they have been tunnel boring under London, they have had a lot of issues where the ground can potentially start sinking and cause buildings above ground to be ripped apart and collapse. They've also had all sorts of things happen on building sites that have caused unforeseen delays in the construction work which then has had a knock-on effect for the whole project. Also, they have to do shedloads of testing with real trains, but have had to compete will still on-going construction work in the tunnels. At one point, although I'm not sure this is still the case, they had only 48 hours every two weeks to do this testing. It is a seriously ambitious project built with modern standards, so it takes a long time. Back when Brunel and his Father first built a tunnel under the Thames, it took many years just to build a single tunnel an they suffered several worker fatalities. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this was pushed back so far - I think anyone who trusted the 2018 deadline is incredibly foolish.
15 October 2019, Palermo, Sicily. I am not British but I have the impression the BBC is increasingly tying its own hands with "political correctness" and "social inclusion" at all costs and no matter what, making itself unable to give a straight answer to anything for fear of offending X's sensibility. Or Y's. Polishing its own surface image but losing its soul day by day.
I would say it is the opposite. Average people don’t care why the rail is delayed. Because it is delayed anyway. The reason doesn’t help them. To report on the impact of the delay on average business and people is actually the right thing to do in my opinion.
yidingcao then the title of the video should be “how is the crossrail delay impacting local businesses” rather than the title question which is not even answered.
Moved your business to Tottenham Court Road - literally Oxford st - if your business isn't flying already, I doubt the additional footfall from patrons in Shenfield & Abbey Wood are going to save it!
That's exactly what I was thinking. All business decisions come with a risk. If you're relying on a railway line to save your business then you're already in trouble.
@@Joshyboy1928 : even that guy who was working in 'west london' but had to move to Bethnal Green......ehhh, as someone who lives in west London and commutes to east london for work, the Central line IS running literally every 3 minutes! That guy who spent money on his taxi rank...."were you given an apology" ????? Why because TfL forced you to try and 'capitalise' on increased passengers??? Incredible. I think this video was another example of the appauling ambulance chasing click-bait catarophising journalism we all collectively despise.....
Exactly. These morons obviously havent heard of online sales. Ever heard of Amazon?. I hear it has nearly a billion potential customers, compared to a few thousand potential footfall customers per day.
I wish the beeb would watch a bit of TH-cam and see how to actually explain a topic. There was about 30 seconds on actually why it’s late - almost lip service - and all the rest of “human interest” stories about 3 people being affected. I am none the wiser about why it’s late.
Agreed! The second they went to the first impact story and then to the 'Chief Executive' apologising for its delay, I knew there would be no answers in this video.
Ben Moore That’s why I don’t pay for a license or watch live TV. When I saw this clip with the BBC logo I had no intention of clicking but Cross Rail does interest me as many things do that’s why it’s important to AVOID the useless BBC.
Ah I’m a huge fan of the beeb, I just think their current affairs teams are a bit stuck in their ways. YT explainer videos and long-form podcast interviews have shown that people really want to get to the bottom of things - we want the actual detail. Much more so than tangential human stories of a few people and lots of “and who do you blame for this?”
Ben Moore I was once a huge fan but now all I want is to see the BBC disappear. I urge you to look seriously at what they put out. They are a dangerous organisation.
Sorry, but when you open a shop near TCH station, it shouldn't be such a big problem when Crossrail is delayed, because the station is already served by both the Central and Northern Underground lines. It is the most central station in regards to public transport. It is the central crosspoint of the London Underground. And it may at some point in the future be the central crosspoint of the two Crossrail lines. Yes, the rent raise by the landlords is something to be angry about, but that is not a Crossrail (Project Management) problem. That simply is a problem with landlords. Stopped watching the video at 1:15.
Nice!. A cogent and well analysed response. This mini documentary was an example if an agenda driven 'D' grade telejournalist who probably only just scraped through his 'O' levels and bought his journalism degree from an online college in Mumbai. Certainly not up to the standard i'd expect of the BBC..
If you can't sell poncey clothes to people who come in on the Northern Line and the Central Line, and your shop is totally empty, you are doing something wrong. Crossrail isn't going to change that.
Agreed. If you've not got enough business footfall already in Tottenham Court Road, you've a fundamental problem with your business model. The fact is Crossrail is going to relieve overcrowding, same number of people travelling in comfort and faster, through or to the very same station is the same location as the current one. Crikey, if you can't make a retail shop work at TCH, one of the most crowded places in London, there's something wrong! Why didn't the journalist ask that question? Oh yes, easy to blame engineers who can't answer back. Up your game, Beeb.
@@DavidShepheard Maybe a move to a more humble location would improve her profit margin. If she doesn't like the rent, she should spend her money with a landlord elsewhere!
A most coherent response to an entirely incoherent, irrational piece of sloppy journalism. The business owner's assumptions about the delivery dates given by politicians about something that was not even close to working when she signed her lease is at fault, not Crossrail's engineers. Well said.
I feel like they deliberately left the point out that Tottenham Court Road is currently a very busy station served by two tube lines in Zone 1. It makes it sound like there isn't a station there at all to make things sound worse for that woman's business. Felt like it was deliberately dishonest just to make a point.
not only does it already have 2 lines running through it it’s right at the foot of Oxford Street, which is one of the prime locations in London for shopping
TCH is a piece of prime retail real estate. If you can't make your business work there already, Crossrail is going to make little difference to footfall. Fashion is a business with fickle customers even in the mainstream, and you need to appeal to the masses not a tiny specialised market to survive rents in a location like that. Next year the retro modern swing look will be out of fashion and yesterday's look anyway. Camden Lock or Greenwich Market would be a much better suited location with lower footfall but MUCH lower rents. Cost control is what makes a business more profitable, not reliance on the promises of politicians who sliced a year off the delivery date given by the engineers.
The Central Line and the Northern Line are literally the two highest served underground lines on the network, they intersect at Tottenham Court Road. Footflow should not be a problem.
After watching this video, I have a question: Why Crossrail is running so late? I was going to be a smartarse and write "Starts at 3:10" , for example, when they actually started talking about why it's late. I got to the end of the video and they still hadn't mentioned a single reason as to why it's late. Total waste of time. Thanks.
This is a very irritating piece. It 's billed as "Why Crossrail is running so late" but doesn't say anything about that: it's just a litany of complaints about the lateness. We all know it's late: what is interesting is why it's late.
Three reasons. Minor tunnelling issues. But mainly safe, fully tested integration with three existing and operational train signalling systems. And build problems at some built up locations like Bond Street, where you don't know everything that's underground until you start digging. And to put in context, the engineers estimated delivery for October 2019 at a cost of £18.5 billion. Cameron and Clegg revised this to Autumn 2018 and £15 billion. So in fact it'll be 6-10 months overdue and at 5% unexpected additional cost at £19.5 billion. It's not as bad as expected, but conveniently ignoring these facts makes for a bad news story.
The Euro tunnel took about 7 years to finish and open. This is typical bad management and lack of a credible overseer of the project and a bottomless pit of cash to squander. Next time hire the Poles or the Japanesse who know how to finish a project on time.
No-one remembers the cost a decade after a project opens, and its on the way to amortising its cost. You'd rather it rushed to open, a tunnel collapse or a train derail?. God gave you a brain, use it.
On my side of the pond, we have the LIRR East Side Access project. We are 15 years behind on building a spur line to carry trains from Long Island to Grand Central diverging from the existing mainline to Penn Station, and is now going to cost at least $11.1B USD to build two stations, in spite of an original price tag at $3.5B, mainly because instead of re-purposing the existing lower level, it was decided to build a 13-storey “cavern” directly underneath Grand Central. I looked up Crossrail as I heard of it as being a counterexample of a similar project being done right, but at least it has many more stations in place to justify its cost.
Why would Crossrail personally apologise to a small cab firm in Abbey Wood that took the risk to expand knowing it was risk? I feel more sorry for the commuters who have to put up with overcrowding every day on the existing network while they wait for Crossrail.
The stupid thing is that Abbey Wood station *is* open. It's a Network Rail station that is going to have an interchange with Crossrail. And if Crossrail is not open yet, you would think that some folks would want to take a cab ride into work.
Well said. Guaranteed in five years when their businesses are successful they wont be writing a letter of thanks to the project manager. Ungrateful wretches.
Unless their business is directly paying for Crossrail, they’re expecting to get the benefits of the line without contributing to the line. Canary Wharf -or Heathrow*- can kick up a fuss sure, anyone else? Nah (* actually, as they own the rail tunnels to the airport and those are part of the problem, they best be careful...)
Ultimately the reason why Crossrail is late and over budget is the same as for most projects, the bidding process promotes overly optimistic targets that simply cannot be met with the winner often being the one who offers the most optimistic bid rather than a realistic one. Works starts and everyone realises the bid was basically a load of bollocks.
There was a very stringent set of requirements to be met for each Contract where the bidders had to demonstrate their ability to do the job, in addition to the price. This included method statements, management staff, capabilities, approach to risk, costed risk register,, sub contractors capabilities, experience, financial strength. Philosophy on meeting procurement programme. What was clear to me when working on the bid for the completion works at Tottenham " Court Road was the omission of works at the boundary interfaces of each Contract. So there was more work to do.which cost money and took time.
@@johntomlinson6849 the Contract was set up so it is impossible for a Contractor to do anything other than what they were contracted to do. It was a target , actual cost contract design and build New Enginering Contract where the pre agreed maximum firm price cannot be exceeded unless Crossrail issue a change to their requirements and any savings are shared equally between the Contrsctor and Crossrail. Every activity and every sub contractor appointed has to monitor everything they do with a fully backed mountain of paperwork.
@@trevorwilliams632 That sounds good and is a very detailed answer, for which I'm grateful. I'm bound the ask - why the dreadful overspend and - covid aside - the appalling delays then?
@@johntomlinson6849 I appreciate your reply Andeew. During the 4 months I worked on putting the bid together for the completion contract to Tottenham Court Road it was apparent the work specified at the boundary interfaces of the many contracts didn't pick up everything to be done which resulted in a lot of extra work to do impacting on both programme and cost. The crossrail project comprised hundreds of contracts and these boundary interface works would have involved a lot of extra work at many of the contract boundaries. One example being at Tottenhsm Court Road where a new lift was required in the existing Central line zone which was remote from the Crossrail site. Another example was at Mile End where a new substation was built at road level but to build the substation highway alterations were required and to carry out the highway alterations more highway alterations were needed remote from the main highway alterations. Exactly the same sort of thing will happen with HS2 where the cost consultant threw some figures against five or six items such as x number of miles of tunnelling, bridges, etc and then applied a risk contingency of 20%. Given the sparse detail of the 5 or 6 items and bearing in mind the site is 200 miles long, the risk figure should be in the thousands of %. Already in Manchester they are talking about building a new station underground instead of at ground level to reduce traffic problems and the underground station will require several miles of tunnelling to get to it from the city outskirts. How many hundreds of millions extra cost (and time) will that run into ?
@Houston's mccaine Agreed. I see no demand for anyone to get from Birmingham to London 20 minutes faster. HS2 is a waste of money and a gross vandalism of pristine countryside.
I think this was a little disrespectful to the thousands of workers who are actually working flat out. Issues and delays occur - the public are very unforgiving
Why say it would be complete in December 2018 then when it so clearly couldn't have been. If they were honest from the start then people would be more forgiving.
@@ruk2227 its not the workers who actually work on it it's because whenever contracts are released u set unobtainable goals to get contracts that end up in delays and costing more money because otherwise u don't get the contract its a really bad problem that we need to solve but keeps happening
As is typical of the BBC these days they've got it wrong. Crossrail isn't Europe's largest infrastructure project. Grand Paris Express with 200km of new track and 68 new stations is bigger.
It was due open in December 2017 not 2018! The date was pushed back by a year in 2010 to save £1 billion. I wish people would stop forgetting this fact - the BBC should know better. How on earth can there still be 18 months of work at Bond Street in September 2019, when in September 2018 they were still expecting it to open on time! Seriously bad project management!
The last director got his bonus and buggered off. This is typical sitting on a project for an ever increasing extension. The Euro Tunnel with digging under the English Channel of water took less time to finish than this. Next time hire the Japanesse.
And in the meantime...you can be assured that there will be people, somewhere, making a load of cash, due to the delays in the delivery of the project. Surely the builders should be penalised heavily for being so behind?
You can't penalise a Contractor for late completion when the delay is not their fault. There are hundreds of Contracts in building Crossrail each dependent on each other.
If you have invested thousands of pounds into your business in anticipation for Cross Rail opening on time. Then its more or less your fault if the company is struggling as you have failed to take into account the level of risk.
5:05 "The tunneling was late here and they had design challenges." That took him 3 seconds to say and is about the only explanation in this whole piece.
Who opens a niche vintage clothes shop in proximity to a station and expects the reason the business is failing is because the train station isn't open, a coffee or sandwich shop I would get but who is stopping to buy vintage clothes on their commute?
Why did the Chunnel take 7 years while Cross rail takes 12 years? Because, reasons: Chunnel links the island and the continent while cross rail links two ancient main lines while meandering around ancient tube lines. There.
Crossrail, however, is only delayed by 2.5 years and work is constantly ongoing. Berlin's airport is basically untouched and has been delayed by 8 years so far
This is an absolute joke! I bought my first house in Romford in Sep 2017 purely for this cross rail line as i could get to work (Paddington) with one train. It was due to finish end of 2018 and now its delayed by three years?! Someone needs to be held responsible for this.
You're a joke. Since when were such large projects delivered on time? Your journey from Romford to Paddington is probably no more than 10 minutes longer without crossrail; you get off at Liverpool Street, walk two minutes and get on another train. You're speaking like the entire project has been cancelled.
Word of advice: never treat the deadlines given by companies for large-scale infrastructure projects as such. They are at best rational predictions and should not be treated as gospel. With grand projects like this, there are just too many variables and unforeseen circumstances that can heavily delay something like this.
Investigation into this, HS2 and the smart meter roll out needs to be carried out. This is public money nearly 50 billion in addition to the proposed costs. Someone's head should roll.
@@55hatter sadly its a very real sentiment that train travel is for the rich. For all its benefits it's almost always the most expensive way to get somewhere (aside from urban trains networks), and train travel at 125mph is already this expensive in Britain. At twice the speed, I don't want to even imagine the premium that hs2 would charge
@@aminboumerdassi2334 travel around London for a month on UBER and then get back to us on your theory that the London Underground is an expensive way to travel
Lots of People with Professional and inside knowledge could explain exactly why Crossrail has taken from 1989 to now and STILL isn't finished, but as usual this BBC Makeweight didn't interview any of them.
@@Bungle2010 the First Crossrail Project Team was formed in 1989 in the former Development Directorate of LT, and the whole project was then envisaged to be complete by 2000. The eff-ups with implementation are just part of the long tradition of NOTHING working to plan/timetable with CR.
Well, it’s a project full of British consultants. We have had experience with that for many offshore projects. They all try to extend the project squeezing out more hours. No real interest in delivering. Good luck finishing this.
@@forza223bowe5 Not to me, I like the glossy tiles and atmosphere. The fact that they have aged really well and don't try too hard to look decent. I think modern stations, although they can look good, have a much more commercialised look to them, that makes them feel a bit less inviting or cosy but more practical.
It’s pretty funny to see businesses moving in near transit stations. Here in America local businesses pitch a fit whenever the local gov remove some parking for bigger sidewalks or make a bus only lane for rapid service.
1:26 "If it doesn't open by late 2020 or early 2021, my business is absolutely at risk" Over a year and Crossrail still hasn't opened. Hope her business is still okay.
Matt McIrvin sorry My comment was a pun on the meaning of late : a building project for a new rail line and a late train which is big subject here. Ha ha ha almost wet me self In fact British trains which I use a lot are hardly ever late and have a well over 90% record of punctuality
No mention of TFL management and their political induced ineptness. Feel sorry for those who do the work, you know BBC real work and not sneering at then.
It is not "Europes largest infrastructure project". The french for example are currently building a subway in the Paris region that is over twice the size of Crossrail.Furthermore almost all the technical hardware in Crossrail,including the trains,will be imported.
At 2:30 the cost of Crossrail has has raised by 2 billion . Will somebody be punished for the extra 16 billion? Will somebody go to jail? Of course nobody will dare to touch anyone. The profits are immense and as usual the ignorant and powerless tax payer pays the damages. Tottenham court road station is in central London and on Oxford street. It has already a very busy station with two underground lines and is on an incredible busy high street . A shop owner near Tottenham court road doesn’t really need the crossrail to be successful. Crossrail will help but everything else is an excuse for low profits and bad management. For areas that crossrail will offer a new station, the delay is indeed devastating for shop owners who invested there relying on the Crossrail.
You could go to jail on behalf of the project management, perhaps. You know...to show them how much they should be punished. And perhaps you can help pay off some of the £2billion debt you're so outraged by, by making mailbags and selling cigarettes to the other inmates. Dont drop the soap in the shower..
But as a businesswoman, you don't rely on a station being built at a future date to make your business successful. With a long history of long overdue delivery dates, that's simply sloppy business strategy thinking. No sympathy. A niche product with a small following based in a high rent area is a more realistic explanation. Anything else is cognitive dissonance.
Nearly stopped watching at that point. WHY would they apologise to a random business owner!?! Crossrail's not supposed to exist solely to appease businesses. There's just a consistent, horrible business-focused framing throughout this whole story.
business is a risk. They were aware of the commercial aspets before they openend their businesses. They shouldnt of signed a lease without knowing the definites. Also crossrail wont bring that much more footfall.
Spot on. Niche business, fickle customers who will change their minds about their fashion "needs" next year, high rent, success dependent on variables that are out of your control and unlikely to bring the increase in footfall you're leaning on. Competition with established brands with deep marketing pockets. Sloppy, unstrategic, business non-thinking. Total lack of risk management. Hey, what could possibly go wrong?
London still benefits in the long term massively from large scale infrastructure projects. Whilst delays & price increases in the £ billions are frustrating the city generates so much wealth because it gets so much investment. Crossrail & HS2 are both London centric. If Britain directed the same levels of investment towards the Northern Powerhouse, built a second Glasgow subway line, an underground 'Crossrail' rail line between Manchester Piccadilly & Victoria, actually gave Leeds a rapid transit system & expanded the Liverpool metro system the country could begin to rebalance itself in the way it was during the Edwardian period. Focusing so much on London is a self perpetuating prophecy. A more balanced country would reduce the pressure on London's housing stock & prices. I'm not an anti progress Luddite like most British who whine about big building projects, I welcome both HS2 & Crossrail, the expansion of Nottingham's tram network & introduction of an Edinburgh tram network but spend more elsewhere. Drive up the national debt if necessary but learn from the Chinese & just build it...they will come. If they don't we can always scape goat the EU, they get the blame for everything else!
What utter nonsense. A business will thrive if it’s a viable business and offers something people are desperate for. Crossrail has nothing to do with it unless that business is directly connected with the project. People aren’t saying to themselves “boy I can’t wait until Crossrail opens so I can get to Rowena’s retro boutique”. If the landlords are pushing prices up ahead of this opening then that’s where the problem lies.
That was a terribly presented segment. He's just talking about everything other than why Crossrail is running late. Good grief, even our ABC here in Australia wouldn't go to air with nonsense like this.
Construction of Dossrail- as it should be called- may be completed by the year 3000. But it will then need another 100 years of testing before it can actually open to the public. The Victorians would have built it in half the time.
Crossrail is late because it is large project, he just can't say that because it would generate a negative news story aimed at him. Most major infrastructure projects internationally are both late and over budget. This is just reality. Predicting every potentially serious problem faced by 7,000 workers spread over many locations over a long period of time years in advance isn't realistically possible. If they budgeted for every single possible thing that could go wrong they would never get the go ahead in the first place, so there is always going to be erring on the optimistic side rather than the pessimistic side, or nothing would ever happen. 80% of large projects are late or over budget or both and thus making major life decisions based on them being on time will not work well for you 80% of the time.
i have heard that,,when the structures finishes advance before the due date..the company receive a bonus..however,when the building reach the due date and not yet done,the company pay the owner of the building..is it true?
The real reason it's running late: We'd all prefer not to die on untested, badly integrated rail systems. Simple as that. Late, safe and reliable every time please. Leases can be cancelled or renegotiated. Lives lost cannot. Stop whining.
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Why is everybody saying that Crossrail is the rail largest infrastructure project in Europe when, in the other part of the channel, there is the Grand Paris Express that consists in building hundred of km of New tunnels in a circle way around Paris. The French are building the equivalent of the Overground (but underground). Crossrail is nowhere bigger than that.
Trust me, I worked down there. Clueless doesn’t cover it. ONE example; French companies insisting on engineering trains and locomotives from on the continent being used in the tunnels to build them. For those who don’t know, the continent uses a different loading gauge, which basically means that the trains are physically bigger. In short, they didn’t fit in the tunnel! What a joke. Then there’s the cabling and recabling, the language barriers, the constant shift changeovers and walking to a worksite, the concrete going off in transit to the worksite where it was required because it was so poorly planned out... The list is endless. There’s so much that people don’t know about.
Crossrail is running late because tunneling under a major City is extremely difficult and rarely quantifiable in terms of time...…..Just thought this may help.
I watched this video to find out why crossrail is late, 8 and a half minutes later the only thing I’ve learnt about is unusual clocks. Please change the title.
Crossrail is not the biggest infrastructure project in Europe by far. Paris is literally building a whole new metro system as we speak. And why couldn't we ask them for help when we needed it they literally have 5 crossrail lines there.
Don’t feel bad, the 2nd Avenue Subway here in New York took decades before trains actually ran with passengers... and it’s still only phase 1 of 4 in service (there’s no money for phases 3 and 4 right now!)
Can't wait for this finally open. Moved to Maidenhead knowing that the commute to work would be more manageable once it opens fully. It'll be a long two years.
So, "I'm complaining about Crosstalk because I took a risky gamble on hitching my core business model to the delivery date given by politicians about a public infrastructure project. The type of which is notorious for late delivery, because of unexpected ground conditions that cannot be anticipated until digging is underway." Do your research, business people. Spend your time usefully looking at the history of these projects before you bet your business on them. Anything less is just sloppy, lazy thinking, making strategically important business decisions based on something which is almost certainly not going to happen in the timeframes you have assumed. Civil engineering is complex to do, and train signalling systems HAVE to work 100% reliably, otherwise people die. Both have unexpected complications inherent in their build. Until they are completed, why assume the promises of politicians are good enough to gamble your business? Your own reasoning is at fault, not Crossrail.
@Leigh Garfield ofcorse difficult to bore and extremely greedy contractors. You can look at similar projects although not not of similar magnitude in Amsterdam or Rome. Another flop is building of terminal 5 for around 5bn pounds. How can we beat the other countries and be competitive when such projects always cost not only an arm and leg but a head too ....
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BBC: appalling narration. Does not answer the question which you posed in the title... Pifflepafflewifflewaffle.
Literally the one question you pose -- you do not answer.
"Why Crossrail is late"
*proceeds to not talk about key reasons why the project is late*
They'd need a documentary for that I think, these sorts of projects are very complex to explain.
Reason it is late is they have not spent enough money on overtime to get the work done. Or they did not employ enough people to work on it. But then out at Harold Wood we have been waiting a long time for the ticket office to open. I am guessing they have the same team of people working on the surface stations on the line to Shenfield.
@@hublanderuk It was delayed because of high level corruption.
hublanderuk a grossly over simplified explanation. They tried pumping more money and labour to speed through commissioning. It didn’t work. The problems are far more complex.
I'm glad it's not just me then. I'm watching this waiting for a list of detailed reasons about how you can be up to 2 years late and not hearing anything. Why on earth would surface stations be so unfinished? What exactly would slow down building the entrence by so much? Just a load of 'I'm really sorry but we are working hard'. Pathetic.
After 8 minutes and 25 seconds I still don’t know why Crossrail is running late. This video is pure waffle.
Malacki 655 Singalling issues were mentioned quickly in the beginning. Later we see that the escalators in Bond Street are unfinished. Everything seems to be delayed, concerning the stations. Although my guess is that these issues are not the only ones.
@@slighter
Yes, those are examples of aspects that are late. But we still have no idea WHY.
This is exactly why the Crossrail is late, you see, management keeps on talking and discussing something irrelevant
Simple building companies quote early completion dates to win contracts. It's not a 2 storey extension on a semi detached house or new housing estate. It's one of the biggest projects going of course its was going to fall behind schedule
@@stevenking9346 It's not really a matter of building companies making up deadlines. Look up "The Fifteen Billion Pound Railway" on TH-cam and have a look at some of the stuff going on. They have had hundreds of setbacks because of the unexpected things they have to deal with underneath London. They needed to make use of an old Victorian tunnel going under the Thames and they found part-way through that the tunnel was slightly smaller - they didn't know if they could knock those bricks out because they didn't know if those bricks were supporting the weight of the structures above. They have had to drill many additional holes just for grout pumping stations - where they have been tunnel boring under London, they have had a lot of issues where the ground can potentially start sinking and cause buildings above ground to be ripped apart and collapse. They've also had all sorts of things happen on building sites that have caused unforeseen delays in the construction work which then has had a knock-on effect for the whole project. Also, they have to do shedloads of testing with real trains, but have had to compete will still on-going construction work in the tunnels. At one point, although I'm not sure this is still the case, they had only 48 hours every two weeks to do this testing.
It is a seriously ambitious project built with modern standards, so it takes a long time. Back when Brunel and his Father first built a tunnel under the Thames, it took many years just to build a single tunnel an they suffered several worker fatalities. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this was pushed back so far - I think anyone who trusted the 2018 deadline is incredibly foolish.
Terrible journalism. Does not explain in any detail why it was delayed.
Standard bbc really
15 October 2019, Palermo, Sicily.
I am not British but I have the impression the BBC is increasingly tying its own hands with "political correctness" and "social inclusion" at all costs and no matter what, making itself unable to give a straight answer to anything for fear of offending X's sensibility. Or Y's.
Polishing its own surface image but losing its soul day by day.
I would say it is the opposite. Average people don’t care why the rail is delayed. Because it is delayed anyway. The reason doesn’t help them. To report on the impact of the delay on average business and people is actually the right thing to do in my opinion.
yidingcao then the title of the video should be “how is the crossrail delay impacting local businesses” rather than the title question which is not even answered.
it is the BBC, did you expect anything else?!
Moved your business to Tottenham Court Road - literally Oxford st - if your business isn't flying already, I doubt the additional footfall from patrons in Shenfield & Abbey Wood are going to save it!
That's exactly what I was thinking. All business decisions come with a risk. If you're relying on a railway line to save your business then you're already in trouble.
@@Joshyboy1928 : even that guy who was working in 'west london' but had to move to Bethnal Green......ehhh, as someone who lives in west London and commutes to east london for work, the Central line IS running literally every 3 minutes! That guy who spent money on his taxi rank...."were you given an apology" ????? Why because TfL forced you to try and 'capitalise' on increased passengers??? Incredible. I think this video was another example of the appauling ambulance chasing click-bait catarophising journalism we all collectively despise.....
If you cant make a go of something in oxford street, maybe you shouldnt be running a shop!
@@Peter-gv6vf : in the parlance of the millenials....."obvs".
Exactly.
These morons obviously havent heard of online sales.
Ever heard of Amazon?. I hear it has nearly a billion potential customers, compared to a few thousand potential footfall customers per day.
I wish the beeb would watch a bit of TH-cam and see how to actually explain a topic. There was about 30 seconds on actually why it’s late - almost lip service - and all the rest of “human interest” stories about 3 people being affected. I am none the wiser about why it’s late.
Agreed! The second they went to the first impact story and then to the 'Chief Executive' apologising for its delay, I knew there would be no answers in this video.
Ben Moore it is because simple repairs which is taking long i.e. replacing a wire which should be easy however you need to dig up the floor
Ben Moore That’s why I don’t pay for a license or watch live TV. When I saw this clip with the BBC logo I had no intention of clicking but Cross Rail does interest me as many things do that’s why it’s important to AVOID the useless BBC.
Ah I’m a huge fan of the beeb, I just think their current affairs teams are a bit stuck in their ways. YT explainer videos and long-form podcast interviews have shown that people really want to get to the bottom of things - we want the actual detail. Much more so than tangential human stories of a few people and lots of “and who do you blame for this?”
Ben Moore I was once a huge fan but now all I want is to see the BBC disappear. I urge you to look seriously at what they put out. They are a dangerous organisation.
8 minutes of whinging and waffle. No mention AT ALL as to why it's delayed. Don't waste your time watching.
Train testing and signalling testing.
It's delayed because the 3 signalling systems don't work with each other.
Crossrail: It will be finished on March 2021
Covid-19: Let me introduce myself!
It's still not here
Now it is in trial-running state.
Sorry, but when you open a shop near TCH station, it shouldn't be such a big problem when Crossrail is delayed, because the station is already served by both the Central and Northern Underground lines. It is the most central station in regards to public transport. It is the central crosspoint of the London Underground. And it may at some point in the future be the central crosspoint of the two Crossrail lines.
Yes, the rent raise by the landlords is something to be angry about, but that is not a Crossrail (Project Management) problem. That simply is a problem with landlords.
Stopped watching the video at 1:15.
Nice!.
A cogent and well analysed response.
This mini documentary was an example if an agenda driven 'D' grade telejournalist who probably only just scraped through his 'O' levels and bought his journalism degree from an online college in Mumbai.
Certainly not up to the standard i'd expect of the BBC..
If you can't sell poncey clothes to people who come in on the Northern Line and the Central Line, and your shop is totally empty, you are doing something wrong.
Crossrail isn't going to change that.
Agreed. If you've not got enough business footfall already in Tottenham Court Road, you've a fundamental problem with your business model. The fact is Crossrail is going to relieve overcrowding, same number of people travelling in comfort and faster, through or to the very same station is the same location as the current one. Crikey, if you can't make a retail shop work at TCH, one of the most crowded places in London, there's something wrong! Why didn't the journalist ask that question? Oh yes, easy to blame engineers who can't answer back. Up your game, Beeb.
@@DavidShepheard Maybe a move to a more humble location would improve her profit margin. If she doesn't like the rent, she should spend her money with a landlord elsewhere!
A most coherent response to an entirely incoherent, irrational piece of sloppy journalism. The business owner's assumptions about the delivery dates given by politicians about something that was not even close to working when she signed her lease is at fault, not Crossrail's engineers. Well said.
I feel like they deliberately left the point out that Tottenham Court Road is currently a very busy station served by two tube lines in Zone 1. It makes it sound like there isn't a station there at all to make things sound worse for that woman's business. Felt like it was deliberately dishonest just to make a point.
not only does it already have 2 lines running through it it’s right at the foot of Oxford Street, which is one of the prime locations in London for shopping
TCH is a piece of prime retail real estate. If you can't make your business work there already, Crossrail is going to make little difference to footfall. Fashion is a business with fickle customers even in the mainstream, and you need to appeal to the masses not a tiny specialised market to survive rents in a location like that. Next year the retro modern swing look will be out of fashion and yesterday's look anyway. Camden Lock or Greenwich Market would be a much better suited location with lower footfall but MUCH lower rents. Cost control is what makes a business more profitable, not reliance on the promises of politicians who sliced a year off the delivery date given by the engineers.
The Central Line and the Northern Line are literally the two highest served underground lines on the network, they intersect at Tottenham Court Road. Footflow should not be a problem.
After watching this video, I have a question: Why Crossrail is running so late?
I was going to be a smartarse and write "Starts at 3:10" , for example, when they actually started talking about why it's late.
I got to the end of the video and they still hadn't mentioned a single reason as to why it's late. Total waste of time. Thanks.
Should be titled “What is the impact of cross rail being late” no Whys have been answered here
0:35 Update: Her shop still exists but is open only from Thursday to Saturday.
It's now shut
This is a very irritating piece. It 's billed as "Why Crossrail is running so late" but doesn't say anything about that: it's just a litany of complaints about the lateness. We all know it's late: what is interesting is why it's late.
So why is cross rail actually running late ?
Lift at moorgate is deleyed.
It's running late because they are busy doing an interview with this Twit journalist...
Three reasons. Minor tunnelling issues. But mainly safe, fully tested integration with three existing and operational train signalling systems. And build problems at some built up locations like Bond Street, where you don't know everything that's underground until you start digging. And to put in context, the engineers estimated delivery for October 2019 at a cost of £18.5 billion. Cameron and Clegg revised this to Autumn 2018 and £15 billion. So in fact it'll be 6-10 months overdue and at 5% unexpected additional cost at £19.5 billion. It's not as bad as expected, but conveniently ignoring these facts makes for a bad news story.
Because the governments doing it, name a government project that doesn't run over time and over budget.
@@Alfie-ni7lx The 2012 London Olympics
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BBC is doing the same sort of "No telling you anything" nonsense that US media sources do.
Honestly, I always thought the BBC was better than that.
Michael Tovar it’s wrongly titled, but there is clearly a story here. It is about the impact of the delay
Crossrail being at least a couple of years late opening was the most predictable thing ever to happen
The Euro tunnel took about 7 years to finish and open. This is typical bad management and lack of a credible overseer of the project and a bottomless pit of cash to squander. Next time hire the Poles or the Japanesse who know how to finish a project on time.
Its actually harder to build the crossrail tunnel then Eurotunnel because of location
No-one remembers the cost a decade after a project opens, and its on the way to amortising its cost.
You'd rather it rushed to open, a tunnel collapse or a train derail?.
God gave you a brain, use it.
BINGO
If it was China, it would have been built in weeks
On my side of the pond, we have the LIRR East Side Access project. We are 15 years behind on building a spur line to carry trains from Long Island to Grand Central diverging from the existing mainline to Penn Station, and is now going to cost at least $11.1B USD to build two stations, in spite of an original price tag at $3.5B, mainly because instead of re-purposing the existing lower level, it was decided to build a 13-storey “cavern” directly underneath Grand Central. I looked up Crossrail as I heard of it as being a counterexample of a similar project being done right, but at least it has many more stations in place to justify its cost.
Why would Crossrail personally apologise to a small cab firm in Abbey Wood that took the risk to expand knowing it was risk? I feel more sorry for the commuters who have to put up with overcrowding every day on the existing network while they wait for Crossrail.
Exactly.
The stupid thing is that Abbey Wood station *is* open. It's a Network Rail station that is going to have an interchange with Crossrail.
And if Crossrail is not open yet, you would think that some folks would want to take a cab ride into work.
No they took a business risk.
how many people were they expecting to get off a crossrail train at abbey wood and want to get a minicab? especially with things like uber and lyft..
Cross rail bosses do not owe business owners anything. No guarantee and certainly no apologies! Get a grip.
Well said.
Guaranteed in five years when their businesses are successful they wont be writing a letter of thanks to the project manager.
Ungrateful wretches.
Unless their business is directly paying for Crossrail, they’re expecting to get the benefits of the line without contributing to the line. Canary Wharf -or Heathrow*- can kick up a fuss sure, anyone else? Nah
(* actually, as they own the rail tunnels to the airport and those are part of the problem, they best be careful...)
CEO is a waffler. He'll get a big pay-off like they all do. Then he will proceed to another high-paid job and waffle his way through that one as well.
This is the principle attribute of all senior managers in these large public funded projects. Waffling,and not getting the job done.
Yeah, I wish I had gone into professional waffling in my youth. A lot of good and well paid jobs in that field.
Ultimately the reason why Crossrail is late and over budget is the same as for most projects, the bidding process promotes overly optimistic targets that simply cannot be met with the winner often being the one who offers the most optimistic bid rather than a realistic one. Works starts and everyone realises the bid was basically a load of bollocks.
There was a very stringent set of requirements to be met for each Contract where the bidders had to demonstrate their ability to do the job, in addition to the price. This included method statements, management staff, capabilities, approach to risk, costed risk register,, sub contractors capabilities, experience, financial strength. Philosophy on meeting procurement programme. What was clear to me when working on the bid for the completion works at Tottenham " Court Road was the omission of works at the boundary interfaces of each Contract. So there was more work to do.which cost money and took time.
@@trevorwilliams632 I take it you've never worked on a project where the bidders "overpromise" (i.e. lie) through their back teeth???
@@johntomlinson6849 the Contract was set up so it is impossible for a Contractor to do anything other than what they were contracted to do. It was a target , actual cost contract design and build New Enginering Contract where the pre agreed maximum firm price cannot be exceeded unless Crossrail issue a change to their requirements and any savings are shared equally between the Contrsctor and Crossrail. Every activity and every sub contractor appointed has to monitor everything they do with a fully backed mountain of paperwork.
@@trevorwilliams632 That sounds good and is a very detailed answer, for which I'm grateful. I'm bound the ask - why the dreadful overspend and - covid aside - the appalling delays then?
@@johntomlinson6849 I appreciate your reply Andeew. During the 4 months I worked on putting the bid together for the completion contract to Tottenham Court Road it was apparent the work specified at the boundary interfaces of the many contracts didn't pick up everything to be done which resulted in a lot of extra work to do impacting on both programme and cost. The crossrail project comprised hundreds of contracts and these boundary interface works would have involved a lot of extra work at many of the contract boundaries. One example being at Tottenhsm Court Road where a new lift was required in the existing Central line zone which was remote from the Crossrail site. Another example was at Mile End where a new substation was built at road level but to build the substation highway alterations were required and to carry out the highway alterations more highway alterations were needed remote from the main highway alterations. Exactly the same sort of thing will happen with HS2 where the cost consultant threw some figures against five or six items such as x number of miles of tunnelling, bridges, etc and then applied a risk contingency of 20%. Given the sparse detail of the 5 or 6 items and bearing in mind the site is 200 miles long, the risk figure should be in the thousands of %. Already in Manchester they are talking about building a new station underground instead of at ground level to reduce traffic problems and the underground station will require several miles of tunnelling to get to it from the city outskirts. How many hundreds of millions extra cost (and time) will that run into ?
Everything is delayed in the U.K...😂🤣
It’s what the English do best
Yep, but we have some of the safest railways in the world. Stew on that for a moment.
@Houston's mccaine Agreed. I see no demand for anyone to get from Birmingham to London 20 minutes faster. HS2 is a waste of money and a gross vandalism of pristine countryside.
Except our busses Anton
because of Brexit
Crossrail is way way beyond schedule and billions over budget.
However, it’s due to open in the first half of 2022, and the whole line by May 2023.
So... why is it late then? I watched the whole thing and still have no idea
I think this was a little disrespectful to the thousands of workers who are actually working flat out. Issues and delays occur - the public are very unforgiving
Why say it would be complete in December 2018 then when it so clearly couldn't have been. If they were honest from the start then people would be more forgiving.
@@ruk2227 its not the workers who actually work on it it's because whenever contracts are released u set unobtainable goals to get contracts that end up in delays and costing more money because otherwise u don't get the contract its a really bad problem that we need to solve but keeps happening
The CEO of crossrail looks and sounds like a garage mechanic
Ok crossrail is late yes, but I actually need that man's clocks they look amazing.
As is typical of the BBC these days they've got it wrong. Crossrail isn't Europe's largest infrastructure project. Grand Paris Express with 200km of new track and 68 new stations is bigger.
You could make the argument that the Grand Paris Express in actually six independent projects, non-dependent projects.
The body language of the CEO tells you more.
It was due open in December 2017 not 2018! The date was pushed back by a year in 2010 to save £1 billion. I wish people would stop forgetting this fact - the BBC should know better.
How on earth can there still be 18 months of work at Bond Street in September 2019, when in September 2018 they were still expecting it to open on time! Seriously bad project management!
The last director got his bonus and buggered off. This is typical sitting on a project for an ever increasing extension. The Euro Tunnel with digging under the English Channel of water took less time to finish than this. Next time hire the Japanesse.
@@Truthshallsetu3 like all directors in UK take bonus and after run away
@@Truthshallsetu3 yes the project is a joke but tunneling under London is a lot harder then tunneling under the English channel
It's not just signals though. Many stations were not actually ready either!
And in the meantime...you can be assured that there will be people, somewhere, making a load of cash, due to the delays in the delivery of the project. Surely the builders should be penalised heavily for being so behind?
You can't penalise a Contractor for late completion when the delay is not their fault. There are hundreds of Contracts in building Crossrail each dependent on each other.
If you have invested thousands of pounds into your business in anticipation for Cross Rail opening on time. Then its more or less your fault if the company is struggling as you have failed to take into account the level of risk.
Correct. A single voice of sanity here.
Makes it worse when you are actually the Mayor of London!
5:05 "The tunneling was late here and they had design challenges." That took him 3 seconds to say and is about the only explanation in this whole piece.
If this is the case WTF will HS2 cost !!!!!!!!!
Well, that's embarrassing! But not as embarrassing as having Boris Johnson as head of government.
Who opens a niche vintage clothes shop in proximity to a station and expects the reason the business is failing is because the train station isn't open, a coffee or sandwich shop I would get but who is stopping to buy vintage clothes on their commute?
Don't knock it. I've often mused over a nice polka dot frock on my commute. Unfortunately they don't sell them in man size. Blatant sexism.
Why did the Chunnel take 7 years while Cross rail takes 12 years? Because, reasons: Chunnel links the island and the continent while cross rail links two ancient main lines while meandering around ancient tube lines. There.
Why is Cross-Liz-Purple line running so late? Perhaps it's because they keep having to stop work so Geoff Marshall can make another video !
Agreed, the BBC should blame Geoff. Instant scapegoat ;-)
Everyone laughed at the Germans for their big new unopened expensive airport in Berlin, then we go and do the same!
Shocking.
Crossrail, however, is only delayed by 2.5 years and work is constantly ongoing. Berlin's airport is basically untouched and has been delayed by 8 years so far
i think theyve given up on the new berlin airport tbh probably gonna sit there forever and rot
@@joesos no they want to open it this year
This is an absolute joke! I bought my first house in Romford in Sep 2017 purely for this cross rail line as i could get to work (Paddington) with one train. It was due to finish end of 2018 and now its delayed by three years?! Someone needs to be held responsible for this.
You're a joke. Since when were such large projects delivered on time? Your journey from Romford to Paddington is probably no more than 10 minutes longer without crossrail; you get off at Liverpool Street, walk two minutes and get on another train. You're speaking like the entire project has been cancelled.
Word of advice: never treat the deadlines given by companies for large-scale infrastructure projects as such. They are at best rational predictions and should not be treated as gospel. With grand projects like this, there are just too many variables and unforeseen circumstances that can heavily delay something like this.
I mean, greateranglia run direct services to Liverpool Street, despite not being very frequent.
Trouble is, the tube would be a bit of a nightmare.
I say direct, they only stop at Stratford on the way.
Any business that is reliant on CrossRail opening for customers in Central London should really consider going into business at all...
the station they showed at 2:40 looks amazing and airy
Investigation into this, HS2 and the smart meter roll out needs to be carried out. This is public money nearly 50 billion in addition to the proposed costs. Someone's head should roll.
No investigation is needed for this. It's a massive project, a delay was invetible.
@@55hatter: Us paupers can't afford to get on them is my guess.
@@55hatter sadly its a very real sentiment that train travel is for the rich. For all its benefits it's almost always the most expensive way to get somewhere (aside from urban trains networks), and train travel at 125mph is already this expensive in Britain. At twice the speed, I don't want to even imagine the premium that hs2 would charge
@sarah jonesbecause rich people catch the London Underground all the time, and millions of poor people drive around London in Bentleys snd Ferraris.
@@aminboumerdassi2334 travel around London for a month on UBER and then get back to us on your theory that the London Underground is an expensive way to travel
Highly complex and massive project.
Only a little delayed really.
Stop fing moaning.
Lots of People with Professional and inside knowledge could explain exactly why Crossrail has taken from 1989 to now and STILL isn't finished, but as usual this BBC Makeweight didn't interview any of them.
@@Bungle2010 the First Crossrail Project Team was formed in 1989 in the former Development Directorate of LT, and the whole project was then envisaged to be complete by 2000. The eff-ups with implementation are just part of the long tradition of NOTHING working to plan/timetable with CR.
Well, it’s a project full of British consultants. We have had experience with that for many offshore projects. They all try to extend the project squeezing out more hours. No real interest in delivering. Good luck finishing this.
The cross rail stations look very cold and clinical looking and don’t look futuristic like the Jubilee line extension is
Compared to many other cramped, filthy, poorly lit and dangerous London underground stations that suffer passenger bottlenecks, I assume you mean.
@@nightelf9462 Old underground stations have a cosy look to them for me
Pete S. The stations are really underwhelming if you ask me
@@forza223bowe5 Not to me, I like the glossy tiles and atmosphere. The fact that they have aged really well and don't try too hard to look decent.
I think modern stations, although they can look good, have a much more commercialised look to them, that makes them feel a bit less inviting or cosy but more practical.
Landlords are always more interested in the money🙄 nothing new
true
It’s pretty funny to see businesses moving in near transit stations. Here in America local businesses pitch a fit whenever the local gov remove some parking for bigger sidewalks or make a bus only lane for rapid service.
1:26
"If it doesn't open by late 2020 or early 2021, my business is absolutely at risk"
Over a year and Crossrail still hasn't opened. Hope her business is still okay.
Nope it didn’t survive sadly looking at google maps it closed between may 2021 and July 2022
WOW I forgot I posted this comment lol. But yh icl that must've been painful closing cause of how delayed it was.
@@zef6154 I guess Covid also had an effect
I love the quote 'exactly almost nearly finished.' What does that mean?
All trains in the UK are late, what’s the matter with you?
Speaking as a US citizen, you don't know the meaning of "late".
Matt McIrvin sorry My comment was a pun on the meaning of late : a building project for a new rail line and a late train which is big subject here.
Ha ha ha almost wet me self
In fact British trains which I use a lot are hardly ever late and have a well over 90% record of punctuality
No mention of TFL management and their political induced ineptness. Feel sorry for those who do the work, you know BBC real work and not sneering at then.
BBC London: station is nearly ready
Station completion date: March 2021
For anyone wondering if that woman’s boutique survived it is a no it closed between sometime May 2021 and July 2022 looking at Google Street View
Probably, it may open on June 2022
8:25min video and you’ve managed not to explain WHY the project is so late. Deceiving
It is not "Europes largest infrastructure project". The french for example are currently building a subway in the Paris region that is over twice the size of Crossrail.Furthermore almost all the technical hardware in Crossrail,including the trains,will be imported.
18 billion!? Nice to see the country as a whole will feel the benefits of this train line
At 2:30 the cost of Crossrail has has raised by 2 billion . Will somebody be punished for the extra 16 billion? Will somebody go to jail? Of course nobody will dare to touch anyone. The profits are immense and as usual the ignorant and powerless tax payer pays the damages.
Tottenham court road station is in central London and on Oxford street. It has already a very busy station with two underground lines and is on an incredible busy high street .
A shop owner near Tottenham court road doesn’t really need the crossrail to be successful. Crossrail will help but everything else is an excuse for low profits and bad management.
For areas that crossrail will offer a new station, the delay is indeed devastating for shop owners who invested there relying on the Crossrail.
Achilleas Labrou erm...
You can't put people in jail for a project going over budget. The prisons would be full of project managers if that was the case.
You could go to jail on behalf of the project management, perhaps.
You know...to show them how much they should be punished.
And perhaps you can help pay off some of the £2billion debt you're so outraged by, by making mailbags and selling cigarettes to the other inmates.
Dont drop the soap in the shower..
But as a businesswoman, you don't rely on a station being built at a future date to make your business successful. With a long history of long overdue delivery dates, that's simply sloppy business strategy thinking. No sympathy. A niche product with a small following based in a high rent area is a more realistic explanation. Anything else is cognitive dissonance.
Why is the mini cab rank whining most people just gets an Uber theses days
"has anyone come up to you and said sorry?" hahah wtf
Nearly stopped watching at that point. WHY would they apologise to a random business owner!?! Crossrail's not supposed to exist solely to appease businesses. There's just a consistent, horrible business-focused framing throughout this whole story.
business is a risk. They were aware of the commercial aspets before they openend their businesses. They shouldnt of signed a lease without knowing the definites.
Also crossrail wont bring that much more footfall.
Spot on. Niche business, fickle customers who will change their minds about their fashion "needs" next year, high rent, success dependent on variables that are out of your control and unlikely to bring the increase in footfall you're leaning on. Competition with established brands with deep marketing pockets. Sloppy, unstrategic, business non-thinking. Total lack of risk management. Hey, what could possibly go wrong?
I just want the clock to be honest
Every rail infrastructure project is late or delayed and some of them are even held up by leaves on the line
London still benefits in the long term massively from large scale infrastructure projects. Whilst delays & price increases in the £ billions are frustrating the city generates so much wealth because it gets so much investment. Crossrail & HS2 are both London centric. If Britain directed the same levels of investment towards the Northern Powerhouse, built a second Glasgow subway line, an underground 'Crossrail' rail line between Manchester Piccadilly & Victoria, actually gave Leeds a rapid transit system & expanded the Liverpool metro system the country could begin to rebalance itself in the way it was during the Edwardian period. Focusing so much on London is a self perpetuating prophecy. A more balanced country would reduce the pressure on London's housing stock & prices. I'm not an anti progress Luddite like most British who whine about big building projects, I welcome both HS2 & Crossrail, the expansion of Nottingham's tram network & introduction of an Edinburgh tram network but spend more elsewhere. Drive up the national debt if necessary but learn from the Chinese & just build it...they will come. If they don't we can always scape goat the EU, they get the blame for everything else!
What utter nonsense. A business will thrive if it’s a viable business and offers something people are desperate for. Crossrail has nothing to do with it unless that business is directly connected with the project. People aren’t saying to themselves “boy I can’t wait until Crossrail opens so I can get to Rowena’s retro boutique”. If the landlords are pushing prices up ahead of this opening then that’s where the problem lies.
So, actually, whjy is cross rail late? I didn't find out from this video...
That was a terribly presented segment. He's just talking about everything other than why Crossrail is running late. Good grief, even our ABC here in Australia wouldn't go to air with nonsense like this.
Don't even bother watching this if you want to find out why crossrail is running late. Total waste of time!
Poor journalism. No detail about why the signaling and tunnelling is so far behind makes it impossible to evaluate the contractor’s excuses.
Construction of Dossrail- as it should be called- may be completed by the year 3000. But it will then need another 100 years of testing before it can actually open to the public. The Victorians would have built it in half the time.
The Victorians would also have had less than half of the Victorian tunnels to not collide with and fit between 😉
Crossrail is late because it is large project, he just can't say that because it would generate a negative news story aimed at him. Most major infrastructure projects internationally are both late and over budget. This is just reality. Predicting every potentially serious problem faced by 7,000 workers spread over many locations over a long period of time years in advance isn't realistically possible. If they budgeted for every single possible thing that could go wrong they would never get the go ahead in the first place, so there is always going to be erring on the optimistic side rather than the pessimistic side, or nothing would ever happen.
80% of large projects are late or over budget or both and thus making major life decisions based on them being on time will not work well for you 80% of the time.
Mid-November 2021 🙋🏻♂️
"Europes largest infrastructure project"
Have you ever heard of the Brennerbasistunnel?
dasBunny No, does it run under 25 miles of public infrastructure?
i have heard that,,when the structures finishes advance before the due date..the company receive a bonus..however,when the building reach the due date and not yet done,the company pay the owner of the building..is it true?
At this point I no longer expect the queen to live long enough to see the inauguration of her line. Sad.
She did, just.
The real reason it's running late: We'd all prefer not to die on untested, badly integrated rail systems. Simple as that. Late, safe and reliable every time please. Leases can be cancelled or renegotiated. Lives lost cannot. Stop whining.
Why is everybody saying that Crossrail is the rail largest infrastructure project in Europe when, in the other part of the channel, there is the Grand Paris Express that consists in building hundred of km of New tunnels in a circle way around Paris. The French are building the equivalent of the Overground (but underground). Crossrail is nowhere bigger than that.
Delayed due to unexpected problems and technical difficulties and has been pushed back to a later date. Ur welcome.
On time and on budget
NOT! Colossal incompetence. The government should sue for all of the overruns... All of it...
Here in Sweden it’s worse. We were promised to get our brand new stock trains C30 in 2013, and we still hasn’t got it yet
Can’t blame cross rail for failure of businesses, the uncertainty around brexit is more damaging
Trust me, I worked down there.
Clueless doesn’t cover it.
ONE example; French companies insisting on engineering trains and locomotives from on the continent being used in the tunnels to build them.
For those who don’t know, the continent uses a different loading gauge, which basically means that the trains are physically bigger. In short, they didn’t fit in the tunnel! What a joke.
Then there’s the cabling and recabling, the language barriers, the constant shift changeovers and walking to a worksite, the concrete going off in transit to the worksite where it was required because it was so poorly planned out...
The list is endless. There’s so much that people don’t know about.
Corruption, most of these setbacks aren't accidental.
Crossrail is running late because tunneling under a major City is extremely difficult and rarely quantifiable in terms of time...…..Just thought this may help.
I watched this video to find out why crossrail is late, 8 and a half minutes later the only thing I’ve learnt about is unusual clocks. Please change the title.
*watches in 2020* Crossrail will now not be open until 2022 because of Covid-19
Crossrail is not the biggest infrastructure project in Europe by far. Paris is literally building a whole new metro system as we speak. And why couldn't we ask them for help when we needed it they literally have 5 crossrail lines there.
Don’t feel bad, the 2nd Avenue Subway here in New York took decades before trains actually ran with passengers... and it’s still only phase 1 of 4 in service (there’s no money for phases 3 and 4 right now!)
I mean its Britain and trains, what do you expect?
Can't wait for this finally open. Moved to Maidenhead knowing that the commute to work would be more manageable once it opens fully. It'll be a long two years.
Anglo Saxons being VERY ANGLO. Never go full Anglo
So, "I'm complaining about Crosstalk because I took a risky gamble on hitching my core business model to the delivery date given by politicians about a public infrastructure project. The type of which is notorious for late delivery, because of unexpected ground conditions that cannot be anticipated until digging is underway." Do your research, business people. Spend your time usefully looking at the history of these projects before you bet your business on them. Anything less is just sloppy, lazy thinking, making strategically important business decisions based on something which is almost certainly not going to happen in the timeframes you have assumed. Civil engineering is complex to do, and train signalling systems HAVE to work 100% reliably, otherwise people die. Both have unexpected complications inherent in their build. Until they are completed, why assume the promises of politicians are good enough to gamble your business? Your own reasoning is at fault, not Crossrail.
Im not surprised at all, we are in Britain not in China, so even more delays will follow.
@Leigh Garfield ofcorse difficult to bore and extremely greedy contractors. You can look at similar projects although not
not of similar magnitude in Amsterdam or Rome. Another flop is building of terminal 5 for around 5bn pounds. How can we beat the other countries and be competitive when such projects always cost not only an arm and leg but a head too ....
@Leigh Garfield China would have just knocked down big ben and then paraded a fleet of tanks around Westminster.
The narration of this is much, much better with video speed set to 1.25x
Wait
Open in autumn? That mean
SERVICE TO SHENFIELD FROM PADDINGTON
(maybe. hope it happens)
Good things come to those who wait...🤔...⏳...⌚...⌛...✅