After only 500km on my first euc (ks16s), I am definitely preparing for the upgrade, and the Patton has been on the top of that list before this journey started.
I watched a lot of your videos over the last year when I started riding EUCs. Your video about v13 having geared towards much more experienced riders, and your video about the v11 pointed me to the perfect direction to get started. And then 7 wheels later, acknowledging that I'm not an average rider anymore makes so much sense. Thank you for this video!
I’m 70 and enjoyment means a lot. I took awhile to get used to/adjust p settings FOR my OG Dualtron STORM. Coming from an old NanRobot D5+2.0, I was initially way over my head. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger *and happier* 😊
Really enjoy my S19 I have put over 600 miles on it now. But just as a companion wheel to my bigger faster Ex30. Nice to have a wheel I can easily put in my trunk yet still get 50 miles out of at decent speeds. Happy going 25 mph some days. Really underrated IMHO. I honestly pick it 50 percent of the time to ride. Specifically at night with its great lighting to see and be seen.
I have a King Song S16 Pro arriving tomorrow. I'm excited to be part of the EUC community even with my slow "kids" unicycle. I really wanted the V14 but the S16 Pro will be fine. I definitely won't be able to hang with EUC riders in my town but that's okay. I need to walk before I can run.
The S19 is great ( I hear), but I'm very happy with my S16. To me, it's the best combination of power, distance, and affordability. The main reason I prefer it to the S19 is that it's more affordable. You're going to love it.
Sensible guy…It’s really dumb to buy a massively big, heavy wheel before you an even ride…that’s why there are so many very low mileage big wheels for sale…it really isn’t as easy as it looks on TH-cam! Much better to start on a smaller lighter wheel..then, after a thousand miles or so, you will know what you enjoy, what your use case is and which type of wheel you may..or may not…want to progress on to.👍
Thank You Jimmy! Awesome video Man. I totally understand where you're coming from. I've been trying to push the same message on my channel. I just bought the T4 Pro and it's Amazing! I picked it up from Clark Pads for $1399 USD. Thanks for sharing. Have a Fantastic evening.
Just started riding less than a year ago at 58. First EUC was an Mten4. Cheap, light and low pedal height were some of the features I wanted. Couple months later I upgraded to a V11. Increased weight was a big problem at first but it was much more stable at higher speeds. Reviews are always hyping the Lynx, ET Max etc. The weight is just too much for me to handle. I have never and probably will never go faster than 30mph. Recently got an S16. Faster and more nimble then the V11 but at the end of the day I enjoy the V11 the most.
Bought the T4 Pro also since the price drop. Too good to pass up. I use it for commuting, trail rides, and a little bit of off road. Curbs are the most I jump. So far the waterproofing on the T4 Pro is holding up well. I've printed some side panels, handles, bumpers and pads out of TPU. Super customizeable if that is what you want, good just keeping it stock too. Super easy and fun to ride and is holding up to 100+F temps outside during the heat wave. I throw it in my trunk and ride when I'm out & about. I'm 6'2" and around 220 lbs, getting 55-60 miles in easy riding. Less if I push speed.
I'm 59 years old and I always take off and tell myself to take it easy today and just enjoy a nice gentle ride. Well that goes out the window a half an hour later! 😂😂
Yes to all of this. I started riding in 2017 as an efficient way of commuting to grad school. And as someone who's crashed and been to the hospital several times, as someone who rides in all seasons - even blizzards - reliability and water resistance are extremely important. I learned on a KingSong and have also ridden InMotion and Begode. My rec for newbies would be the V12 right now for currently ~ $2,000. My current commuter is a V13, but I'd probably get a V14 if I was starting now and was splurging a bit.
@@griffin.greene I have a v12 HT got it for 1500 euros, this is my first wheel, super reliable and I can ride it in the rain no problem, as long as it not a storm, I use it to commute and to have fun, great wheel, features, range...
I agree with the speed aspect of it. My first PEV was the updated Nami Burn E 2 Max with PMTs I bought over 6 months ago. I like that it has the power but being almost 47 years old I learned I don't need the absolute top speed and often find myself going slower and enjoying the outdoors and nice weather while riding easy. I also want an EUC and my budget is $4k but I know I'll crash as most do beginner or experienced so I stick to 2 wheels. I've witnessed some nasty falls on EUC far more than scooters so idk. Time to ride both a EUC and my Nami is also an issue. Also so much time before the winter seasons hits
I have a Master Pro V3 (127 lbs, 5000w, 4,800wh), and put 2000 miles + on it in the last 4 months, but I still ride my V12, which is crossing the 5,000 mi mark. Both the V11 and V12 are great mid-range wheels.
I agree that we need a good midrange wheel! All of the offerings right now have big issues that I wish were fixed or were better. V11Y is a nice refresh but they kept the stupid suspension design that tends to have problems over time.
I'm 58 casual rider but love my lynx.. 30mph is about my limit but it's so stable and safe feeling.... 1500 miles no crashes..... The pads and suspension saved me a few times
There are better designed air stem connectors, almost no, or no air loss during connection operations. And yes I’ll tell you what I have to service my Dualtron STORM’S 55 psi tires😊
I compared s16 pro to s19 pro and decided to take s19 pro because it is narrower in the upper section and is more comfortable and nimble despite larger wheel size than s16. Bigger battery and bigger power as well, more headroom near max speed as well. Finally mentioned already 20 inch tire which gives it more stability in city cruising. It is better choice for bigger guy than s16 pro. Power pads are comfortable for city cruising so if you want jumps on the trail yes s16 would be better but in that case I would just buy begode extreme or V14. So s16 as a city wheel is not ideal choice.
Aloha🤙🏼 I gave kingsong S16 pro a try as my 1st suspension wheel but it did not come near the enjoyment I still hold with my beloved 18XL. I found my wheels need to be under 60lbs. With that said, I'm on week 2 with the Falcon and it's a much nicer fit for my needs, I just wish it had a few miles more range as I get just shy of 30 miles @~25mph
If suspension isn't an absolute necessity the OG 3600wh commander is only $2500 on eWheels with their upgraded battery packs. The longest range wheel to date
I think the main thing with euc- is to buy way above ur riding level. We've all bought wheels, only to outgrow it in a few weeks. Until they make wheels with interchangeable rim/ battery sizes, we need more than one for different use cases. This is no different. You'll be shopping again if you buy this wheel... lol
T4 V4 is probably the best choice in my opinion. A little more rugged and utilitarian than the S-19, super easy maintenance, and the price will decrease due to te new T4 Pro and T4 Max :)
I love my finger horn! Except that I become a goofball with it and when people look at me I raise my eyebrows and honk my horn at the same time. I imagine they think I'm weird but at least I'm keeping myself amused! But the horn is good on a serious note. I can do a gentle beep on the bike trail way before I come up on someone so I don't surprise them and they can gently get out of my way and the interaction is much more polite and I'm not surprising or scaring anyone.
Good review, however I'm not sure which EUC you were riding. I couldn't make out the name you were saying. Can you please spell it out? Thanks so much.
Is there an all around great euc for beginners and advanced riders? One that is easy enough to learn on and be good/fast/reliable enough to keep for years to come. Something in the $1000 - $2000 CAD range.
I personally would say the 16 Inch wheels are best for learning, and for having fun after you learn. Something you won't grow out of quickly. I have the V12 that go up to 45 mph and 90 miles range at under 15 mph. the only downfall is the V12 don't have suspension. So I would say a 16 inch Wheel WITH Suspension. If you buy a wheel that is too small, once you learn riding you will quickly g out grow it and want more power and range, which means you will have to buy another wheel. It is smart to buy a wheel between 50-70 pounds, that go up to 40 mph and get at least 70 miles range, then you won't have to buy another wheel so quickly once you learn to ride
Begode Falcon is really good. Begode T4 and Kingsong S16 are also good choices. I don't own an EUC but this is what I've learned in the the 2 weeks I've been into unicycles. I bought the KS S16 Pro and hopefully will be getting it tomorrow.
This is the kind of euc review I need, I don't want a toy I will outgrow but nor do I want a 40+kg behemoth. I want the best alrounder with good value that could act as a car replacement. Im torn, it seems sensible to be able to do the speed limit to keep up with traffic flow but a comfortable 60kmph seems to be for the big boy eucs? Or am I over stating the importants of being able to keep up with traffic?
Old guy here (72 years old), I started with V8F back in August 2021, and bought an 18XL V2 (spiked pedals, power pad protrusions at front and back of upper pads) April 2024. EUC is just one of my hobbies, and I ride about 40 to 50 miles per month, and only ride on paved bike trails or the private streets near my home. I didn't want the hassle | maintenance of suspension that wouldn't do much for me. The 18XL is lighter at 53 lbs, making it easy to transport to local bike paths. The private streets near my home are cambered, which could be an issue for wider tires, but not an issue for the 18XL's 2.5 inch wide tire. A 3 inch knobby tire would also be OK, but would be noisy.
You use your knees a lot but there are plenty of riders with bad knees. It really depends on the condition of your back and how your body does absorbing the uneven terrain. A full suspension ebike may be the best choice for you.
The s19 is a piece of 💩 if it falls you break the handle, the board overheats and burns the board, you can't put aftermarket pads. It's a good party wheel if you only ride road with no adventure. Don't buy it for real
S19 is far from perfect. It has some good things going for it, but the point of the video is to help consumers and makers of these wheels understand what I think should be found in a great mid tier wheel.
Most EUC TH-camrs are nothing but Advertisers for these wheels. They literally say or do the same things in every video. Go back a few years when the V13 or Master Pro came out they were saying the same thing as they say NOW with the Lynx, GT Pro and ET Max...and the next wheels just now released. And they always Excited over it, like the new wheel is the first to go 55+ and get 100 miles range And they have a ton of greed or horde mentality. No need to buy and own 5 wheels that all have the same specs...that greed/hording
That’s because the newest wheels are always the best 🙄 Of course product reviews help the companies. That doesn’t mean the reviewers exist to help the companies
Wow, you really must not be paying attention as your negative opinions have completely fogged over your ability to listen to facts and understand logic. That's really sad.
Love my Veteran Patton, built like a tank, has good torque and more range than I need. Keep creating great content! Cheers!
The Patton is a good one! Appreciate the support!
After only 500km on my first euc (ks16s), I am definitely preparing for the upgrade, and the Patton has been on the top of that list before this journey started.
I watched a lot of your videos over the last year when I started riding EUCs. Your video about v13 having geared towards much more experienced riders, and your video about the v11 pointed me to the perfect direction to get started.
And then 7 wheels later, acknowledging that I'm not an average rider anymore makes so much sense. Thank you for this video!
I’m 70 and enjoyment means a lot. I took awhile to get used to/adjust p settings FOR my OG Dualtron STORM. Coming from an old NanRobot D5+2.0, I was initially way over my head.
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger *and happier* 😊
Really enjoy my S19 I have put over 600 miles on it now. But just as a companion wheel to my bigger faster Ex30. Nice to have a wheel I can easily put in my trunk yet still get 50 miles out of at decent speeds. Happy going 25 mph some days. Really underrated IMHO. I honestly pick it 50 percent of the time to ride. Specifically at night with its great lighting to see and be seen.
I have a King Song S16 Pro arriving tomorrow. I'm excited to be part of the EUC community even with my slow "kids" unicycle. I really wanted the V14 but the S16 Pro will be fine. I definitely won't be able to hang with EUC riders in my town but that's okay. I need to walk before I can run.
Welcome to the EUC family!
The S19 is great ( I hear), but I'm very happy with my S16. To me, it's the best combination of power, distance, and affordability. The main reason I prefer it to the S19 is that it's more affordable. You're going to love it.
Sensible guy…It’s really dumb to buy a massively big, heavy wheel before you an even ride…that’s why there are so many very low mileage big wheels for sale…it really isn’t as easy as it looks on TH-cam! Much better to start on a smaller lighter wheel..then, after a thousand miles or so, you will know what you enjoy, what your use case is and which type of wheel you may..or may not…want to progress on to.👍
@@martinsaunders2942 For my riding style the KS S16 Pro ended up being perfect. I'm going to ride this thing until the wheel falls off.
Thank You Jimmy! Awesome video Man. I totally understand where you're coming from. I've been trying to push the same message on my channel. I just bought the T4 Pro and it's Amazing! I picked it up from Clark Pads for $1399 USD. Thanks for sharing. Have a Fantastic evening.
Just started riding less than a year ago at 58. First EUC was an Mten4. Cheap, light and low pedal height were some of the features I wanted. Couple months later I upgraded to a V11. Increased weight was a big problem at first but it was much more stable at higher speeds. Reviews are always hyping the Lynx, ET Max etc. The weight is just too much for me to handle. I have never and probably will never go faster than 30mph. Recently got an S16. Faster and more nimble then the V11 but at the end of the day I enjoy the V11 the most.
I’m 35 and I just picked up a T4 pro with a street tire. I don’t see myself going over 30mph and I’m definitely not going to be jumping anything.
What do you think of the T4?
Bought the T4 Pro also since the price drop. Too good to pass up. I use it for commuting, trail rides, and a little bit of off road. Curbs are the most I jump. So far the waterproofing on the T4 Pro is holding up well. I've printed some side panels, handles, bumpers and pads out of TPU. Super customizeable if that is what you want, good just keeping it stock too. Super easy and fun to ride and is holding up to 100+F temps outside during the heat wave. I throw it in my trunk and ride when I'm out & about. I'm 6'2" and around 220 lbs, getting 55-60 miles in easy riding. Less if I push speed.
Give it time...
That’s what they all say. 😂
I'm 59 years old and I always take off and tell myself to take it easy today and just enjoy a nice gentle ride. Well that goes out the window a half an hour later! 😂😂
Well said. No need for Wrong Way to pound the crap out of it with jumps then complain it broke 😂
Yes to all of this. I started riding in 2017 as an efficient way of commuting to grad school. And as someone who's crashed and been to the hospital several times, as someone who rides in all seasons - even blizzards - reliability and water resistance are extremely important. I learned on a KingSong and have also ridden InMotion and Begode.
My rec for newbies would be the V12 right now for currently ~ $2,000. My current commuter is a V13, but I'd probably get a V14 if I was starting now and was splurging a bit.
V12 HS is what I'm looking at for my first! Only $1599 on Ewheels right now.
What kind of injuries brought you to the hospital?
@@griffin.greene I have a v12 HT got it for 1500 euros, this is my first wheel, super reliable and I can ride it in the rain no problem, as long as it not a storm, I use it to commute and to have fun, great wheel, features, range...
Another great video Jimmy! 👍🏼
Thanks Andrew! Hope you are well!
Awesome video, thank you Jimmy!
I absolutely love riding EUC. NEVER been over 40 mph! 25 to 30 max is plenty.
I agree with the speed aspect of it. My first PEV was the updated Nami Burn E 2 Max with PMTs I bought over 6 months ago. I like that it has the power but being almost 47 years old I learned I don't need the absolute top speed and often find myself going slower and enjoying the outdoors and nice weather while riding easy. I also want an EUC and my budget is $4k but I know I'll crash as most do beginner or experienced so I stick to 2 wheels. I've witnessed some nasty falls on EUC far more than scooters so idk. Time to ride both a EUC and my Nami is also an issue. Also so much time before the winter seasons hits
I have a Master Pro V3 (127 lbs, 5000w, 4,800wh), and put 2000 miles + on it in the last 4 months, but I still ride my V12, which is crossing the 5,000 mi mark. Both the V11 and V12 are great mid-range wheels.
I agree that we need a good midrange wheel! All of the offerings right now have big issues that I wish were fixed or were better. V11Y is a nice refresh but they kept the stupid suspension design that tends to have problems over time.
You truly spoke my mind boss.
cool concept of a video. what in Jimmy's mind Should be the best selling EUC 🤔🎉
35mph is nothing to sneeze@!
My Begode Falcon is coming.
My Mten3 is a wonderful backpack EUC for the last Mile.
All my other EUC are big for off-road or long-range.
Cool video!!!
I'm 58 casual rider but love my lynx.. 30mph is about my limit but it's so stable and safe feeling.... 1500 miles no crashes..... The pads and suspension saved me a few times
Well said, i have more fun on the Patton than the Lynx, and a lot more than the Sherman-L, i be curious to try a S19 or S16
There are better designed air stem connectors, almost no, or no air loss during connection operations. And yes I’ll tell you what I have to service my Dualtron STORM’S 55 psi tires😊
You forgot to leave a link to the custom list of EUCs you guys made
Get a Xiaomi pump, doesn't let any air out when loosening it off the valve stem.
I think those flowers are called Black Eyed Susan.
once the S16 pro came out, the S19 fell in its shadow. lighter cheaper and no locked in pads
I compared s16 pro to s19 pro and decided to take s19 pro because it is narrower in the upper section and is more comfortable and nimble despite larger wheel size than s16. Bigger battery and bigger power as well, more headroom near max speed as well. Finally mentioned already 20 inch tire which gives it more stability in city cruising. It is better choice for bigger guy than s16 pro. Power pads are comfortable for city cruising so if you want jumps on the trail yes s16 would be better but in that case I would just buy begode extreme or V14. So s16 as a city wheel is not ideal choice.
I love this
Love my v11y
Aloha🤙🏼 I gave kingsong S16 pro a try as my 1st suspension wheel but it did not come near the enjoyment I still hold with my beloved 18XL. I found my wheels need to be under 60lbs. With that said, I'm on week 2 with the Falcon and it's a much nicer fit for my needs, I just wish it had a few miles more range as I get just shy of 30 miles @~25mph
I like the inmotion v14 so far. Seems like a comparable wheel.
If suspension isn't an absolute necessity the OG 3600wh commander is only $2500 on eWheels with their upgraded battery packs. The longest range wheel to date
How about inmotion V11Y? Good competitor of this one
you misspelled falcon
yeah that one is surely a best seller
I think more power than you need is particularly important with EUCs due to cutouts. The headroom provides safety.
37mph is plenty of headroom for casual riders going 28mph max. casual riders and commuters arent speed demons
Love it
I think the main thing with euc- is to buy way above ur riding level. We've all bought wheels, only to outgrow it in a few weeks.
Until they make wheels with interchangeable rim/ battery sizes, we need more than one for different use cases. This is no different. You'll be shopping again if you buy this wheel... lol
T4 V4 is probably the best choice in my opinion. A little more rugged and utilitarian than the S-19, super easy maintenance, and the price will decrease due to te new T4 Pro and T4 Max :)
Go for V14
Those are wild sunflowers, btw.
V13 30 mph 👌
⚡️👌🏽👌🏽⚡️
*Let's disagree respectfully,* we can grow as humans AND grow PEV types/specs 🤙🏽
We always appreciate the support! Disagreements are part of life and we are all entitled to our opinions.
any reviews on the v11y?
What are your daily drivers now Jimmy?
Begode Extreme rdy out of the box.
43 Year old Rider.
U can cruise and veary important u can blast trails.
And it's cheap 😊
Jimmy are you going to review Pidzoom finger horn and helmet mirror?
We will be! Thanks for asking.
I love my finger horn! Except that I become a goofball with it and when people look at me I raise my eyebrows and honk my horn at the same time. I imagine they think I'm weird but at least I'm keeping myself amused! But the horn is good on a serious note. I can do a gentle beep on the bike trail way before I come up on someone so I don't surprise them and they can gently get out of my way and the interaction is much more polite and I'm not surprising or scaring anyone.
Ray Overpass
Good review, however I'm not sure which EUC you were riding. I couldn't make out the name you were saying. Can you please spell it out? Thanks so much.
Kingsong S19. The info on the wheel I'm riding is in the description. Good wheel, but not perfect.
Is there an all around great euc for beginners and advanced riders? One that is easy enough to learn on and be good/fast/reliable enough to keep for years to come. Something in the $1000 - $2000 CAD range.
I personally would say the 16 Inch wheels are best for learning, and for having fun after you learn. Something you won't grow out of quickly.
I have the V12 that go up to 45 mph and 90 miles range at under 15 mph. the only downfall is the V12 don't have suspension. So I would say a 16 inch Wheel WITH Suspension.
If you buy a wheel that is too small, once you learn riding you will quickly g out grow it and want more power and range, which means you will have to buy another wheel.
It is smart to buy a wheel between 50-70 pounds, that go up to 40 mph and get at least 70 miles range, then you won't have to buy another wheel so quickly once you learn to ride
Begode Falcon is really good. Begode T4 and Kingsong S16 are also good choices. I don't own an EUC but this is what I've learned in the the 2 weeks I've been into unicycles. I bought the KS S16 Pro and hopefully will be getting it tomorrow.
Try the rawbike 4x plsssssssss
My v12hs still checks all the marks, the new wheels are too expensive imo
Happiness isn’t getting what you want, happiness is loving what you already have and being grateful for it.
Yeah I call that wheel my Honda Civic.
This is the kind of euc review I need, I don't want a toy I will outgrow but nor do I want a 40+kg behemoth. I want the best alrounder with good value that could act as a car replacement. Im torn, it seems sensible to be able to do the speed limit to keep up with traffic flow but a comfortable 60kmph seems to be for the big boy eucs? Or am I over stating the importants of being able to keep up with traffic?
Wilderman Forest
s19 vs t4 vs falcon for first time rider?
I need some help - My Inokim Ox Died going up a hill - Seems like it is locking in gear too. Anywhere to get it fixed?
It would be best to reach out to the place you purchased or look for a local repair shop. Sounds like the motor or controller are bad.
Old guy here (72 years old), I started with V8F back in August 2021, and bought an 18XL V2 (spiked pedals, power pad protrusions at front and back of upper pads) April 2024. EUC is just one of my hobbies, and I ride about 40 to 50 miles per month, and only ride on paved bike trails or the private streets near my home. I didn't want the hassle | maintenance of suspension that wouldn't do much for me. The 18XL is lighter at 53 lbs, making it easy to transport to local bike paths. The private streets near my home are cambered, which could be an issue for wider tires, but not an issue for the 18XL's 2.5 inch wide tire. A 3 inch knobby tire would also be OK, but would be noisy.
SR 22
Hey Jimmy, what's your take on the pidzoom products?
We will be getting their lineup to test and review. It looks like a great positive step to ensuring safety in all aspects of electric ridables.
Love my finger horn!
287 Markus Dam
I'm a beginner and bought the EB commander mini as my 1st euc is that a bad idea?
I wonder if a 240lb guy like me can get 60 miles on it too
would you recomend an EUC if you have bad knees and back?
You use your knees a lot but there are plenty of riders with bad knees. It really depends on the condition of your back and how your body does absorbing the uneven terrain. A full suspension ebike may be the best choice for you.
@@freshlycharged I got the tronic because of you guys haha
Vito Park
Would be nice to say in the video that S19 has no water resistance... Horrible fature for average rider because it often rains outside.
Alek Inlet
Jovany Points
The s19 is a piece of 💩 if it falls you break the handle, the board overheats and burns the board, you can't put aftermarket pads. It's a good party wheel if you only ride road with no adventure. Don't buy it for real
S19 is far from perfect. It has some good things going for it, but the point of the video is to help consumers and makers of these wheels understand what I think should be found in a great mid tier wheel.
EUC camping!
PITIFUL title for your video! Wake up! How could you do any worse??
Most EUC TH-camrs are nothing but Advertisers for these wheels. They literally say or do the same things in every video.
Go back a few years when the V13 or Master Pro came out they were saying the same thing as they say NOW with the Lynx, GT Pro and ET Max...and the next wheels just now released. And they always Excited over it, like the new wheel is the first to go 55+ and get 100 miles range
And they have a ton of greed or horde mentality. No need to buy and own 5 wheels that all have the same specs...that greed/hording
That’s because the newest wheels are always the best 🙄
Of course product reviews help the companies.
That doesn’t mean the reviewers exist to help the companies
Wow, you really must not be paying attention as your negative opinions have completely fogged over your ability to listen to facts and understand logic. That's really sad.
@Freshly Charged What do you think about the KingSong S16?