ralfy review 624 - Fake whiskies in 2017
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In a world of _fake whisky_ and _fake news_...it is comforting to be able to count on the 100% authentic *Ralfy*! Cheers!
Well said Andy!
Spot on Andy!
For sure
The fake NEWS is something we all NEED TO TAKE way more SERIOULY.....ITS NOT JUST FAKE FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING VIEWERS YOU KNOW
Give me a Bottled in Bond Bourbon, 12 year old Auchentoshan, or a12 year old Redbreast anytime before Pappy Van Winkle or any other collectible Macallen or whatever. At some point the law of diminishing return should kick in pretty early for these collectible or "investment" whiskies. Better yet, I continue to support my local craft distiller Rock Town.
I hate that this is happening to bourbon, for years it was considered a working man's drink and the price reflected this without sacrificing quality. It was a sad day when the wine guru Robert Parker decided he was a bourbon expert.
Robert Rogers best value I've found (a good bottle in bond bourbon)none of that marketed crap involved that mainstream bourbon has.
It is too bad it is soon to have its own cache and will then get its own marketing department to sell us ever poorer whisky for more money as has happened with Scotch.
You certainly are on target with that comment.
Let out a nice big HAH! at mention of Robert Parker. He certainly fancies himself an expert, doesn't he?
bonded bourbons are the business
They were the best kept secrets in the whiksey world. Not anymore, just hope the prices don't increase too much.
You make a great point about fake Pappy's. In fact, fake bottles were purchased by the LCBO here in Ontario Canada back in 2013 (I believe). They didn't see the shelves because they were spotted in time, but if government controlled dealers can be swindled, anyone can.
Ralfy, I really appreciate this video. You have a lot of knowledge that collectors like myself can learn from. Thanks.
Ralfy you always know how to deliver one hell of a commentary! I meant to go to bed half hour ago but was far too intrigued by this topic, sip on you Malty Masseuses!
In Edgar Allen Poe'a "Cask of Amontillado" the victim is lured in by being asked to give his opinion on the authenticity of cask of wine.
are fakes limited to the high end collectables or can they be found among less expensive, but still limited in quantity bottlings such as a distillery limited edition or hand filled bottles? they command less but if replicated in large quantity they can earn just as much.
. . . not yet ! but rising prices will attract a wider range of fakes as it has done in the wine industry.
"Governments are not that competent." This American agrees with you 100%! Well said!
I just don't really get his "governments fear alcohol". Or, well, I get the meaning, but it's not quite reality, is it? For every country with expensive alcohol there are like 3+ countrys where a bottle of vodka is less than 5 bucks
. . . have a read of this book ! www.amazon.com/Whiskey-Rebellion-Washington-Challenged-Sovereignty/dp/0743254910/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486811460&sr=8-1&keywords=the+whiskey+rebellion
ralfystuff Thank you for the suggestion Mr. Ralfy, I'll take a look. A fascinating time period for both of our nations.
Best yet Ralfy. You're a wise man sir.
This is why bottles where distillers & producers establish provenance (on the label, preferably) are growing such a market. Foursquare, Stranahan's, Balcones, Garrison Brothers, Springbank, & Kilkerran come to mind immediately. Especially with the boom that the market is seeing right now, due diligence is just good practice.
Just opened a Lagavulin GOT and compared it, just for fun , with a 10Y Talisker and surprisingly i find them exactly the same .. same colour, smell and taste… is it posible to be a fake Lagavulin ???
Missed this one somehow thanks very much Ralfy. More interesting information.
Another informative video !!
Ralfy, what do you think about giving a bottle a shake before a pour? I have noticed the same flavor from the start of a bottle to the end,, My first bottle of lagavulin i notice strong smoke at the beginning and less at the end of the bottle that was not given a shake...
. . . I don't do it, but it may help with opening up the nose and taste a bit quicker.
Just pouring mixes it I think.
Hooray Ralfy! Thanks for helping us.
tried my first single malt!!! highland park 18yr..
on the nose I got Butter Scotch, black liquorice, Bourbon notes, fresh leather, orange peel or fresh sliced oranges, burnt marshmallow, and vanilla..
taste: got pepper, camp fire taste of smoke, orange peel, black liquorice, maybe a touch of vanilla, slight Bourbon taste.
the faint Bourbon taste makes me wonder did they used Bourbon cask??
Welcome to the world of single malts!
I have a question for the dalek behind your right shoulder: What is your go-to dram?
argo60 DISTILLATE!
Thank you for this public service Ralfy! You Meritorious Malt Monitor you!
I recently got to taste the Glenfiddich experimental Whisky that was finished in Indian Pale Ale caskets. It was absolutely amazing. That one is really a spirit that I can recommend to anybody. Maybe you'll wanna try it for the show, I think you'd really enjoy it.
It is a really interesting series by Glenfiddich
When you get to 666, will you review Fireball?
. . . you have to wait and see !
HHAHA!
jim beam devils cut !
5Rounds Rapid
My review of fireball....
Are you over 13 years old? Then dont do it
Fireball, LMAO!!
Hi Ralfy, you should watch the documentary "Sour Grapes" all about wine faking. very informative
I second this recommendation. It's a very interesting film that shows just how many people can be fooled by fakes... with some collectors still refusing to accept that they were ripped off.
That was an incredible documentary. There is something to be said for being careful and skeptical. Caveat emptor!
Interesting viewing. Thanks Ralfy.
Just bought a book Ralfy. Thanks for the tip malt mate.
Normally I'm a big fan of Ralfy's videos, but I have to admit my eyes start to glaze over when he starts talking about the banking system. It's clearly a favorite subject of Ralfy's to talk about.
Obviously, the main motivation for faking whiskies is to make money off unsuspecting buyers. I just wish there was a little more discussion about the types of fakes and how to identify them. More examples would have been great... especially examples that us less-wealthy drinkers and collectors might run across when looking for something at auction to someday drink.
Personally, I am now avoiding Arbegs from 10-20 years ago at auctions, because the capsules they used were pretty generic in style and were often loose fitting. And since their whiskies bottled in that period are so heavily collected and empty bottles are plentiful, they are very vulnerable to faking. Just re-fill and seal. If they filled them with the modern Ardbeg, people would be even more fooled, because the bottle would have the Ardbeg taste and peatiness, it just wouldn't be the highly collected whisky that people thought they were buying.
What’s your oldest whiskey
Has it ever happened that whisky suddenly tastes bitter ? I'm thinking it's something I ate which is making me taste whisky bitter but I cant put my finger on it, has anyone had similar experiences ?
haha, the malt mention is making less and less sense as time goes by
Ralfy will you be at the Glasgow whisky festival in Glasgow in Nov?
. . . it depends on my commitments !
Quick question, if you had to pick btw Ardbeg 10 Year and Talisker Gift Set 20 cl ,Talisker 10 Year Old,Talisker 57 Degrees North and Talisker Distillers Edition. Which one would you pick?
Thanks for the info Ralfy. I continue to see an increasing number of empty bottles peddled on eBay, and have wondered whether they end up being refilled as fakes... Is there a market for empty whisky bottles just for the sake of the bottles? BTW, I have stopped throwing away my good bottles, but have no idea what I'll do with them! 😳😝
. . . fakers delight, unfortunately.
I refilled my blantons bottle with Elijah craig only because I like the blantons bottle so i used it as a make shift decanter
In early April 2024, there are several China-based websites selling 'scotch whisky' at extremely low prices. We know this because the websites use the China Post to ship the bottles from Hong Kong. These websites offer major credit cards and PayPal as options for payment.
Have you heard of this?
Thanks.
. . . is it a scam !
why has johhnie walker black label gone from £27 to £40 in a matter of weeks?
The glass actually looks to good for 100 years old.
Have you heard about the Dutch Tulip Disease? I think we may soon reach those proportions. I have been buying scotch for quite a few years, have had bottles from over 40 distilleries but I have no shame in saying I am buying Bourbon, Irish Potstill and Mezcal.
. . . it's just the way it's going !
That Dalek used to be on the top shelf... it's getting closer...
EXTERMINATE!!!
Ralfy on a weeknight? What kind of sorcery is this?
. . . malt-moment fuelled by magic-manipulations !
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If memory serves me right a request a few years ago said if he can do Jim beam devils cut for review 666 but we will wait and see !
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"how many collectors publicly smash a fake" great quote and relevant in so many sectors other than whisky. Even if they don't try and pass it on, they don't want to admit they bought a knock off
Ralfy, what about Bio-Whiskey ? like Bio wines.
. . . it's all a form of bio at the end of the day !
Tons of fake Pappy out there already, sadly. I would recommend watching the documentary Sour Grapes about Rudy Kurniawan and wine fraud at auctions in general. Really interesting, and incredibly relevant to fraud in whiskey too.
Well said Ralfy!👌🏻
Technically, ethanol is toxic as well, if taken in high enough quantities.
Wondering where the cheap whisky countries are?...might emigrate
Easy way to tell the old from the new. Speak to someone in the printing industry - litho or flexo printing. One close look at the label by anyone in that industry and the fake would LEAP out at them. Modern printing looks nothing like that of even 30 years ago.
I work with a flex printer operator, his old gal is rusty, grimey, greasy and 100% analog, I'm going to ask him about this, thanks for making this comment.
Fake Pappys have been around for quite a while already. Empty Pappy bottles have been selling on eBay for high prices. The buyers are obviously not spending that kind of money for the bottle to hold a lamp shade.
If I was the seller of that fraudulent bottle of Laphroaig, I would be very frightened. The people who can spend that much money on a bottle also have the money to pay for fancy lawyers and bulldog police to come after me.
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ebay you can at least see other people who your are bidding against. With SWA you could be bidding against them for all you know. The software needs to be more transparent We need to have a a more open bidding process.
You are referring to marketing drivel. Artificial bullshit added to a product to increase the perception of value. Adds no value at all but sounds good.
I know more about high end wine fakes so I assume that the same people are perpetrators of both.
Ralfy, I just watched "Sour Grapes" documentary on Netflix - about a huge wine fraud, think you'd enjoy it!
While I would love to try a very high end expensive Whiskey I definitely am not the person who knows enough about it.
people will bid pretty high on empty bottles of pappy on ebay.
break your bottles when you finish, thwart the refillers
MacGilvray here, from Manhattan. Bless you first. Now, to whiskey !. please sir, might not you inquire as to other in to , the 'nature' of a new Irish whiskey that crossed the bar My way ?. Barr an Uisce, Irish whiskey.. From Red Cross, county Wicklow., Ireland. I tasted the bend and the 18 year old single malt. palatable. I am interested to hear what you think. Be well
. . . I will look out for this stuff !
***** thanks ralfy.
for an interesting tale on fakes in the wine industry, check out the documentary 'Sour Grapes'
I always tear off the foil.
Wow, I was close.
Ever taste whiskey from the largest producer of whiskey India?
Interesting
respect very interesting ...radiocarbon dating Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit...
The fakers have a sense of humor? No, Ralfy, the fakers are cheap. They didn't want to spend money on a decent replacement to the original. The more you know...
Moonshine, try a little dram.
Blockchain verification is the way to go for the whisky industry.
Thank you =)
wow Ralfy 2 far n2 the weeds w/ this 1.
good job tho. cheers
To good to be true.
It does'nt make any sence for methanol to be a ISSUE when TRYING TO sell high price scotch ... YOU WOULD NEED TO BE FERMENTATING AND DISTILLING IT YOURSELF OR CREATING BATH TUB BOOZE BY MIXING THINGS WHICH LITTERALY WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST SWITCHING BOTTLES... .. , CREATING fake scotch is about passing of cheap unaged scotch or scotch like whyskey for fancy aged scotch...,
please get on Instagram.. that way you could do live whiskey tasting sessions with your subscribers @ralfystuff
also would love to see posts on whiskey with your input on them . so get on Instagram asap
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