Use solvers to play poker with confidence - out now: www.2cardconfidence.com/solver-mastery Additional notes for hands of the video: - In the simulation used, the river is never a donk shove for Stefan, but a range check Re 79s vs 6To: - flop play is approved, turn overbet is not a thing for Linus, solver only bets 50% pot - Stefan would almost never raise turn and 79s is a close call. But raising is actually also slightly +ev - Linus' 3bet is actually happening with many 6x - Linus' river check is approved, Stefan would never use the tiny size, but only jam or check. 79s is 100% jam -> Just for those that are interested. Not a judgement on good or bad play, as players might have reasons for deviations
@2CardConfidence Great vid as usual. Having thought about the 79s vs T6 hand, I actually like Stefan's turn raise: He knows Linus shouldn't overbet here in theory and therefore the range is very polar, probably 6x or air / weak draws which he dominates (think hands like 78, 89, 74s, 43s). So he gets to punish this by raising for value vs these hands and checking back rivers (but also keeping the option to bluff river). Especially if Linus is imbalanced towards bluffs here (unlikely but possible since Linus is trying to exploit Stefan). Linus 3b ott also makes sense because he's saying fuck you I actually do have tonnes of 6x, and now Stefan is getting a good enough price to peel. Only thing I don't understand is river block bet from Stefan. What is he targeting? Surely he should jam to get fold equity or xb and win against the aforementioned missed draws he beats... Any ideas about this river play?
@@consumer61 Yeah I like your explanation and agree both players basically rep extremely polarized ranges. Regarding the riverbet I can only imagine Stefan thinks Linus would have a few draws/air hands in there that beat 9 high and which he could fold out
@@2CardConfidence Yeah it's the only thing which makes sense, but it would have to be spades, like Txss/Jxss specifically, but I am not sure Linus would 3b turn with these. Seems to me the block just isn't great... But Stefan knows a lot more than me xD
2:19 Interesting point about Stefan deviating from theory -- Magnus Carlsen does this as well in chess. He tends to deviate from the game tree in order to throw his opponents off.
What about the db ai river ? Is it Because Linus doesn't bluff Q-x that much while it's a big part of the SDV hands type Aq, Kq Steffen could have ? And that now Linus would X back a lot his underpairs ? What would Steff bluff here ? Turning As-x into a bluff like Ak-Aj, At, A2, A5 ? Also donking missed FD ?
Actually, the river donk is not happening in the solver. Because Linus would have too many bluffs which would barrel (and even a lot of low pairs would bet for thin value). But yeah, if you wanted to implement a bluffing range on the river, choosing the hands you mentioned sounds reasonable
I think a lot of those really high stakes players arent that better than a good nl1k player, i think they just had more time to get a bankroll and probably some luck involved as well, to move up from nl1k is really hard, there arent many tables above that, and even if you are really good, to get to nl100k, it would take at least 3 or 4 years with a good winrate .
yeah that for sure is very very wrong lot of players play with stakers anyways and their winrate determines the stakes the get to play and naturally over time the best will gather in the highest of stakes
Solvers and GTO in general are useful to study the theory, but they’re mostly useful when playing against other mathematically sound opponents. If you tried to use the “best GTO plays” against average opponents in 90% of lower stakes games, without adjusting to how they play, you’re profitability will go out the window.
There's no justification for this play, just bad and that's it. Find me hand where he floats this this spot with shit draw and dnks river when it misses to prove otherwise. Case closed.
Solvers are bullshit anyways. Poker became boring because of solvers. I never used solvers and still 100% or more on every Site i play. Intuition is the key.
They had us at the first half not gonna lie
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Additional notes for hands of the video:
- In the simulation used, the river is never a donk shove for Stefan, but a range check
Re 79s vs 6To:
- flop play is approved, turn overbet is not a thing for Linus, solver only bets 50% pot
- Stefan would almost never raise turn and 79s is a close call. But raising is actually also slightly +ev
- Linus' 3bet is actually happening with many 6x
- Linus' river check is approved, Stefan would never use the tiny size, but only jam or check. 79s is 100% jam
-> Just for those that are interested. Not a judgement on good or bad play, as players might have reasons for deviations
Can I use gto+: for your upcoming course?
@2CardConfidence Great vid as usual.
Having thought about the 79s vs T6 hand, I actually like Stefan's turn raise:
He knows Linus shouldn't overbet here in theory and therefore the range is very polar, probably 6x or air / weak draws which he dominates (think hands like 78, 89, 74s, 43s). So he gets to punish this by raising for value vs these hands and checking back rivers (but also keeping the option to bluff river). Especially if Linus is imbalanced towards bluffs here (unlikely but possible since Linus is trying to exploit Stefan).
Linus 3b ott also makes sense because he's saying fuck you I actually do have tonnes of 6x, and now Stefan is getting a good enough price to peel.
Only thing I don't understand is river block bet from Stefan. What is he targeting? Surely he should jam to get fold equity or xb and win against the aforementioned missed draws he beats...
Any ideas about this river play?
@@luckymaggie6594 Yes! The course includes PioSolver, GTO+ and GTO Wizard and most concepts can be applied with all of them
@@consumer61 Yeah I like your explanation and agree both players basically rep extremely polarized ranges. Regarding the riverbet I can only imagine Stefan thinks Linus would have a few draws/air hands in there that beat 9 high and which he could fold out
@@2CardConfidence Yeah it's the only thing which makes sense, but it would have to be spades, like Txss/Jxss specifically, but I am not sure Linus would 3b turn with these. Seems to me the block just isn't great... But Stefan knows a lot more than me xD
I didn't fall for the "bad play". Population at NL10 would not have floated on the turn with KQo.
lol my thoughts exactly
You are so right
i feel like the primery difference is the cost of one big blind but maybe thats just me idk
Overrated!
Awesome intro!
Edit: had to look back to see that you just mixed up the letters in their names. Hard to pay attention to 10NL player names
Glad you caught it ;)
Always excited to see a new video. This channel is awesome!
Thanks Joshua, love your support!
you got me i was laughing until you showed the prank
Insanely good vids man! Keep it up! Any dates on the course? :)
Thanks man! :)
It's right around the corner! Shouldn't be more than 2 weeks from now
2:19 Interesting point about Stefan deviating from theory -- Magnus Carlsen does this as well in chess. He tends to deviate from the game tree in order to throw his opponents off.
awesome channel btw, love your videos
Thank you, means a lot!
What about the db ai river ? Is it Because Linus doesn't bluff Q-x that much while it's a big part of the SDV hands type Aq, Kq Steffen could have ? And that now Linus would X back a lot his underpairs ? What would Steff bluff here ? Turning As-x into a bluff like Ak-Aj, At, A2, A5 ? Also donking missed FD ?
Actually, the river donk is not happening in the solver. Because Linus would have too many bluffs which would barrel (and even a lot of low pairs would bet for thin value).
But yeah, if you wanted to implement a bluffing range on the river, choosing the hands you mentioned sounds reasonable
How much would cost you rating my plays? Or me playing vs you for idk.. hour and next hour we discuss
Hey man, can you contact me at info@2cardconfidence.com or discord '2cardconfidence'? :)
Love the content man❤
Thank you, much appreciated!
Playing heads up in nl10 is crazy😭
Yo, 2CC, can you please tell me the same of the intro song you used in your RedBaron end boss video?
Hey man, sorry wanted to answer you, but forgot. It's called "extreme action" from the site bensound.com
np. thanks alot!@@2CardConfidence
Wow, really well said and put together video.
Happy to hear it, thank you!
Lol great beginning to the vid
I think a lot of those really high stakes players arent that better than a good nl1k player, i think they just had more time to get a bankroll and probably some luck involved as well, to move up from nl1k is really hard, there arent many tables above that, and even if you are really good, to get to nl100k, it would take at least 3 or 4 years with a good winrate .
yeah that for sure is very very wrong lot of players play with stakers anyways and their winrate determines the stakes the get to play and naturally over time the best will gather in the highest of stakes
what about the river donk?
Not a thing according to this simulation, his complete range would be a check. I put everything that didn't fit into the video in the pinned comment
I love when people float drawing dead. It just makes me feel ooey gooey inside.
As a sticky player myself I don’t mind Stefan’s play until the donk jam. It’s just so hard to be balanced there while keeping a strong X raise range
Is he real Linus? He is Korean reg player. Linus uses his name. Here is the link
Linus uses his real name on GGPoker. On pokerstars he's LLinusLLove
mind BLOWN when flipped the script on me
GTO solvers are the new dogma of poker
Solvers and GTO in general are useful to study the theory, but they’re mostly useful when playing against other mathematically sound opponents.
If you tried to use the “best GTO plays” against average opponents in 90% of lower stakes games, without adjusting to how they play, you’re profitability will go out the window.
Stefan is always losing these hands
very interesting
lmao great way keeping us off balance hahahah very well done
🙃
I am sorry. I don’t think Stefan is an endboss
i think that also what really matters its your bank accountig but i guess you are not ready for this conversation
Great plot twist
you have same accent as dr strangelove
There's no justification for this play, just bad and that's it. Find me hand where he floats this this spot with shit draw and dnks river when it misses to prove otherwise. Case closed.
Best video so far!
Thanks, much appreciated!
Who plays HU anyway. only egomaniacs. poker is meant to be played multiway
I loved llinus love.. but buttonclicker is also a great endboss
Thanks for the heart you know wilhasha too.. always watched the higher stakes... its a great educational video.
Nothing like ive ever seen before
If these dudes do something it’s probably solver approved. They probably use one while playing.
well these videos are really just estimates anyways no one knows linus and stephans ranges in every spot
Agree with Michael. Also the river jam isn't solver approved and neither are the lines from the first hand, so not a convincing argument for RTA use
the whole video is showing that they didn't do what the solver said. I don't know how you came to this conclusion.
It is a terrible play anyways
lfg
Bro it’s one hand.. hu they are not thinking this deep. It’s all instinct. STOP. Especially in 15 seconds
And instinct is built from practical and theoretical experience
No river breakdown?🥲
Sorry, didn't really fit the video 🙃 I put the missing solver outputs in the pinned comment
Solvers are bullshit anyways. Poker became boring because of solvers. I never used solvers and still 100% or more on every Site i play. Intuition is the key.