The Difference Between Stefan11222 and GTO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2024
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Stefan "Stefan11222" Burakov is an expert at taking people away from studied GTO lines. In this video we explore the difference between his exploitative line and the according GTO line.
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That last question sure was tricky ;)
Thanks for having me, this was a lot of fun!
Likewise, was indeed! But your questions were a lot trickier :D
Love you both!
Alternate title: “How to Level Yourself Into Getting Owned by Top Set”
another result oriented micro grinder
You maybe don’t realize how much this video is good.The transition with the film (one of my favourite),the analisys of the spot,it’s very very instructive and enjoyable.Keep Going.⭐️⭐️
TA - DAAA at the end Kill me 😂(99 💀) 😂😂
Haha glad you like it! 😁
Well done guys. Having subtitles is really great. I'm not good at English so I usually use automatic translation subtitles. Hope you will add subtitles in your next videos. Thanks a lot!!!
So basically you are saying that my NL5 maniac opponents play the Stefan line... No wonder I am losing to them
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Great collaboration between two of the best poker communicators on the platform. Entertaining yet very instructive content.
Happy to hear it, glad you enjoyed it!
This channel is amazing, quality just keeps getting better and better. Keep at it, you have talent for this!
Great compliment, thank you! Definitely not planning to stop :)
Great and informative video as always, i love those theory questions wether here in this video or on the posts you do sometimes, its always a good refreshment of things learnt and helps to understand things quicker
That's the goal, great to hear it helps :)
Congrats bro. Such an awesome content. insane!! I really liked this quizz format.
Happy you liked it! :)
Great video and great editing with one of my favorite movies
Ty 2CC for another great video 👏🥳
Was rly fun to watch. It's a snap like 🥰
Greetings from FR
Love to hear it! 🥳
Love this content SO MUCH 2CC these concepts are so important. Thank you!
Glad you like it! :)
I really love your content! I hope you keep at it and I know you can reach 50k+ subs this year!
Thank you! Haha never say never :)
Great video. I am looking foward for the next video.
2CC video = instant like
Let's go 🥳
agree, there maybe better poker player out there but I doubt if there is better poker teacher.
@@levinkwong3120 Much appreciated my friend!
Great vid mate
Congrats for the video
thanks for putting the source of the clips
amazing amigo mio, nothing more to say, now I'm going to the QY channel
Gracias amigo! Great choice!
Very nice content !!
Well done guys, tks a lot!
Was really fun, thanks for watching :)
Haha great video 😂 nice ending
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Super interesting video🎉❤
Did not see that surprise ending coming! I was fully on board and would have made the same moves for the same reasons…I put the button on KJo or something similar 🤦🏻♂️
precious content. Do you guys provide and CFP project?
Thank you! Can only speak for myself and I don't
There's a lot of this in chess. If you watch top GM games they obviously play engine moves (solver strategy type play) but also play novelties and slight tweaks to play for wins and they feel gives them edge. I think this will be the poker direction.
Great format! Qing Yang really knows his stuff!
He does!
Loved this
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Such a good video🎉
Glad you like it! :)
what i don't get is i heard modern poker theory, utg, bet smaller --even with premium hand-.
its less about protecting your hand rather building smaller pots when OOP.
But then when its in the blinds, we're supposed to 3b big. Shouldn't the same theory of smaller bets OOPs? keep things manageable? Or is it because UTG we're RFI and in the blinds we're looking for fold equity?
Masterclass :)
Thanks buddy :)
Fantastic video
Glad you like it!
😂 I love the storytelling
Lmao love the ending 😂😂😂
Agromonkey, what gro u r saying about?
How this solver was created?
stefan video=like
amazing video
Helloo!,I got one quick question regarding question 6.In what refers to the answers, B) and C) may be kind of of similar? ,since the more polar you are,the more air you have in your betting range,so I would group them in only one answer maybe.Aniways,what I don't get is this point:The main question itself emphasizes to find the difference between those two situations (the smaller and the bigger 3bet size) ,but it seems to me that this BTNS betting range in the turn being more polar will apply to both situations (big and small 3bet size) basically for the nature of the lines and board.In that sense,wouldn't be more appropriate (considering what we are emphazising in the main question) to consider option c) instead?.Since the fact that we 3bet small(which would lead to having a smaller pot post flop),allow both ranges to be wider so,we are forced aniways to call a wider proportion of our range as sb vs a turb bet in order to avoid folding too much.At least if we focus on comparing the two situations ,that would be a more plausible answer to me.
You're right that a more polar range and more air hands are pretty related.
Regarding the difference between both the small and the bigger 3bet, the BTN's betting range is more polarized in the small 3bet line than in the bigger 3bet line (according to GTO).
That's because the BTN has so many more offsuit broadways in their range which are not called against a bigger 3bet.
So in the bigger 3bet line, instead of taking those offsuit broadways as bluffs on the turn, the BTN would choose more 8x hands to bet. Thus making their betting range less polarized than in the small 3bet line.
I think c) is not strictly incorrect , although looks too general ,but in this specific spot certainly the main factor that derives the difference is one range being relatively more polar than the other one resulting in d) or b) as possible answers .Thanks for the comment dude!
It is actually :) I confirmed that by inserting both ranges into the respective other lines including pot sizes. And the results were still the same. So we can conclude that the pot size doesn't play a role in this case.
Always happy to talk, thanks for the input!
@@2CardConfidence ohh I see,but you kept ranges constant right?.I guess I was like:" if the pot is bigger ,
making the pot bigger indirectly supposes a changue in both ranges (since to make it bigger at least pre flop would require to make a bigger 3bet,making both ranges stronger).and then It could be possible that 56s is in the turn one of the worst hands in our range to the point that it could possibly be part of our folding range (if we are suppose to fold something anyways)".
im shocked i actually got them all right, although my reasoning for the last one was a little incorrect it seems.
my opinion was thought BTN SHOULD actually have the A6hh and K6hh that folds the flop, simply because as BTNs range is wider, they have to float a little more, and these feels like good candidates. in addition i thought solver would find more bluffs that arent 6x or 7x, so overall blocking the straight is more important than blocking the small amount of bluffs - which led to me to think it was an extremely close call, but a call nonetheless. however if solver doesnt have these combos anyway, its an even better call.
Q6 was my favorite, i took about 10 minutes thinking on this one.
love the video.
Great to hear you put in the time to form your own thoughts. Which is much more important than the exact results the solver puts out - because in reality the constraints are almost always different
found question 3 a bit confusing because are we talking absolute size or %of pot? Since the flop pot is a different size in theory a bet could be smaller in absolute size but a bigger %
Yes it's always the % of the pot. Could have made that clearer
hmmm , my logic with the 56 hand,on turn is : smaller 3 bet pre means the stack to pot ratio is higher on turn , thats a reason to call more with 56 , so the pot is smaller was correct or not?
yea ok im also not calling to call river on a blanc , im calling to hit , so i need high pot to stack ratio ... u def also should fold here at midstakes
No the size of the pot actually plays no role here. If pot and stack sizes were switched, the plays would still be the same :)
"tadaaahh, it´s gone" sehr gut,
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slam dunk like-on-video channel vibes
How come only 56hh call the river, but not cc or ss? Usually I understand why, but not in this spot?
Is it because they don't continue from earlier streets because we lack the backdoor flush draw?
Yeah I looked for it and found that in solver land 56hh blocks more 45s in IPs value betting range. Why? Because 45hh bets the turn more often than the other combos. Why? Because OOP would never have A4hh, but the other combos. Why? Because A4hh wouldn't cbet the flop, but the others would...
tl,dr: solvers gonna be solvers, but this is very likely not relevant for practice
Ty very much!!
Yeah, I’d prolly prefer the other combos here just incase we saw a wide float from an A6h type holding.
...and then stefan says it was just a misclick pre and decided to go with it.. :D
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I see Giraffe I click
Amazing
Most underrated poker content on TH-cam 🤍
??? why so optimal ???
16:29 i dont understand how BTN is more polar when they're using a smaller sizing
The bet size on the turn is the same (%-wise). What's smaller is the 3bet that the BB made preflop, which has a deciding factor on both players' ranges
@@2CardConfidence sorry i meant how does the small turn sizing correlate to BTN being polar. if they were polar wouldn't they play big bet or check
Yes, a big bet makes the range more polar than a small bet. What we were compairing here is the small bet in one line compared to the small bet in the other line. And they don't have to be similarly polar or unpolar (which they aren't as said).
1/7 damnnnn,when am I going to be as good as Giraffe?should I change my name to elephant or fox?
Please tell poker giraffe to make more videos
He knows :D
Noted!
Yes! I study Gto to better understand how to exploit players and I've been crushing it. Love both of your guys videos. Would love you guys to make more videos about seeing a showdown of a player....going through the lines they took, and pointing out where they went wrong and how to exploit.
Love both of the channels guys and keep it up. Cheers.
For question 4 I am slightly confused with the explanation, I understood up to the point where giraffe says that the BB has a lot more junky hands which pull down the betting frequency, but then the conclusion is that the range bets more often? I don't get the logic, surely it would be the opposite where those junky hands are going to want to make it so we cbet less often?
I think he said those junky hands are more present in the bigger 3bet line, no? So when the 3bet is smaller, the range contains less of them and can therefore bet more often
@@2CardConfidence Oh, I see what you're saying because the range is more merged and less polar so there's less trash in it (offsuited low A type hands), I misunderstood completely, great questions, always love seeing analyses of Stefans play
hmmm, surprised how badly giraffe did. Question 5 was pretty obvious.
It did seem pretty straightforward tbf. But sometimes answering questions on the fly results in second guessing or not fully understanding the question before answering.
Lmaoo thought dex was gonna roll over A high.
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LFG!
Marius makes your stack disappear
Some people play bad poker and call it's exploitative😢
Some people lose to exploitative and call it bad poker
You remind me of [pG]Korn :)
Haha, legend!
The bane overlays are so good with stefan's profile pic of the monkey... bahahaha
I will show you! And then... i will break you
Bets almost pot size bahahaha bro i'm dddyeeing laughing so hard
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Exploit faz GTO foldar várias vezes, mas uma hora GTO leva todo o pote
O GTO já representa o máximo do exploit e não são duas coisas distintas. Se você estiver jogando contra um jogador que está desviando da teoria, o 'Exploit' seria a aplicação do GTO com Nodelock nos ranges do adversário, e nesses níveis de aposta, todos jogam o mais próximo possível da teoria para não serem explorados. Às vezes, eles desviam para tentar buscar linhas não convencionais, onde os oponentes não estudaram muito, como essa do vídeo. No entanto, ainda assim, embasado na teoria
All this talk, all this analysis, changing the preflop range according to sizing... Just for BTN to have top set anyway.
They. Always. Have. It.
They will have bluffs based on gto lines too in this line and they are common on those stakes. Having the balls to make the right play is what makes them better than most people
WAKE UP EVERYONE!
1 thing i disagreed with is that you said early on that btn cannot have TT+ (presumably because he only called the 3bet) - that's obviously not true. it's unlikely TT or JJ will be 4bet (because they don't want to get 5bet) and QQ+ will obviously get slowplayed sometimes and QQ might even be included in the TT-JJ don't want to get 5 bet category. clearly btn treated 99 the same way. if he's playing 99 that way he's playing TT that way.
Did I say that? Then yeah, you're right, those combos are obv in BTN's range. OOP has an overpair advantage is what I generally wanted to say
Did I say that? Then yeah, you're right, those combos are obv in BTN's range. OOP has an overpair advantage is what I generally wanted to say
QQ+ should get 4 bet almost always and JJ-TT could mix in BTN v Linear BB. Yes in live poker or 20NL online, people will do weird things like call with KK, but ranges will more closely resemble GTO in this game.
Isn’t exploitative and gto just a false dichotomy in poker? Every good player knows gto and I’ll take it a step further that all pro exploitative players also know gto but deviate because they have a tell.
Yes, that's pretty accurate :)
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can you take out editing child kindergarden noises please
How did i, basic 200nl reg answer all correctly, but the “ solver expert “ with a yt channel, manage to fuck up basic principles? Turns out all solver experts can only operate on their memorization. No creative problem solving at all. They’re all just a GTO Library for 100bb 6max cashgames.
5:40 He had 56s not 54s.