Dude I’ve ran this exact rotation two months ago in Ravenwatch no cp. this build goes hard! I took it into proc campaigns with essence and new moons and its tons of fun. Gotta try your build out, your videos always hit
This build didn’t disappoint. Thank you for sharing! I will definitely give it a try, especially since all the variants of sorc are my favorite to play. Just prepare to get slapped
This is what I've been trying to do for months, if not years, a battlemage character. But i was going about it via stamina builds with magicka skills, i didnt think about it the opposite way like this! I've spent hours and hours across multiple classes, including sorc, trying to make a battlemage. Now that i watch this (repeatedly), I'm thinking to myself, "Of course, duh!" Good stuff, thank you for sharing! I'm inspired!
Yea I've noticed a lot of people haven't picked up on the max mag 2h build yet, still tons of "stam sorcs" running around struggling to heal. I was running this is a BG and I got a whisper saying "you are bugged out we can't hurt you" and I'm thinking "hehe they don't realize I have a massive shield and also 10k d-swings lol"
@user-ov1uf5sk9l Nice!! I converted my stamsorc to melee mag based on this build. Fun! Then I unlocked smash last night, put magicka smash in place of wrecking blow for aoe spammable, it was awesome! I haven't tried it in pvp, though, but I'd like to test different forms of smash as a spammable, see how I like it compared to wrecking blow.
Man this looks fun and like my kind of build. About to check to see if you have a similar variation video with any scribes skills in the mix possibly making it stronger.
Sup hex. Hope you are doing good. I was wondering if you were aware of any nerfs to sorc or this build that have taken place. About to start grinding out my remaining 4 leads for the torc. Excited to try this build
Hey! Yeah, so Sorc did catch a nerf they reduced the healing of Hardened Ward by about 33% total healing, so the healing can be a little tricky but definitely still great
Do you think this build would still work with the recent nerf to hardened wards healing? I’m assuming it could still work but maybe only as a torc of the last king build for that mitigation.
and i have a question plz how do manage your Stam cause i'm low every time ! just withweapon absorb stam and set ? id it is that can we have a "typical damage cycle" ? ( im French and my English is bad maybe you detail in video and a miss it ?)
My play style is very different than most if you are having Stam issues I would definitely recommend the other morph “Dark Deal” what most players run, I just personally prefer Dark Conversion for my sweaty play style
hey hex, iam a fan of the build, however i prefer DW to 2h, is there a way to make it work? any thoughts or recommendations? should i sacrifice camo hunter, and keep crystal weapon/rending?
How does it work? Am new to the game would it work vice versa? If i were running a stam sorc but do damage with magic abilities? How does it scale damage? I still dont understand :/
So almost every skill is hybridized meaning they will scale with whatever stat is higher, with few exceptions typically shields only scale with Max Mag or Health For example it will look at whatever is higher if my Max Mag is higher it will use that, and if my Weapon Damage is higher it will use that and if my Spell Crit is higher it will still use that, even if the skill cost Stam and does Physical damage So the reason this build stacks into Max Mag is because the Hardened Ward damage shield and heal ONLY scales off Max Mag so that’s why this build is very potent with Max Mag and can’t be replicated on Max Stam builds
@@Hexapug wow thats news to me. Thanks for taking the time. I was under the impression stam weapons would only scale with stamina. In your opinion, What do you think a stamsorc would benefit from compared to a mag sorc? It seems to me stamsorcs only benefit from having a bigger resource pool to spam spells :/ sorry if this is a bad question. And thank you for taking the time
Honestly Markyn is your second best for this, the New Saint and Seducer mythic is another strong one with a really high drop rate if you have the new Gold Road chapter
That’s about how much I had with the Torc, my Stat Sheet stats was with Non Torc stats, with Death Dealer’s, Crafty, Wretched, Balorgh’s as I forgot to include my Torc stats
@@Hexapug I ended up putting on one Domihaus and one Baron Zaudrus just for the max stats. Obviously doesn’t hit as hard as Balorg but was swatting people in BGs anyway.
triple blood thirsty, in pvp at about 60 percent health BT is better then infused unless you need the spell damage for heal buffs BT is always gonna be better then infused
Hardcore grinding during the 2x XP events, also grinded over 10 toons to max Undaunted, Psijic and Mage’s in that time, so crown store purchases I’m just a grinder at heart
@@Hexapug ok will do but I only play magden or plar in pvp. I just need something for solo play and the game got more confusing on how classes work imo. Great that you replied tho. I actually check u first when it's about pvp builds. Have a great one mate.
Tbh if you want the Cheeseplar 2.0, I’d run Tarnished Nightmare front bar 2W, with a 5 piece Static like Deadly or Rallying Cry, with Vateshran backbar, and Balorgh’s, remove Rending Slashes
My bad I forgot to mention that it will be my first 5 Star on PC, as I just recently transferred over and regrinded everything, I have many 5 Stars on Xbox
Because it’s “my channel” and “my video”, and I give “my” thoughts and opinions of the build, exactly why I add time stamps for people to quickly get the info they want
This is sick. I remember running an extremely similar set up years ago but with pelinals before it was changed and clever alchemist
Dude I’ve ran this exact rotation two months ago in Ravenwatch no cp. this build goes hard! I took it into proc campaigns with essence and new moons and its tons of fun. Gotta try your build out, your videos always hit
Hi ist better in prog cp to Play with Essenz and new moon
This build didn’t disappoint. Thank you for sharing! I will definitely give it a try, especially since all the variants of sorc are my favorite to play. Just prepare to get slapped
Aye!!! This is my favorite build. I took your advice with the Torc mythic and it works so well.
This is what I've been trying to do for months, if not years, a battlemage character. But i was going about it via stamina builds with magicka skills, i didnt think about it the opposite way like this! I've spent hours and hours across multiple classes, including sorc, trying to make a battlemage. Now that i watch this (repeatedly), I'm thinking to myself, "Of course, duh!" Good stuff, thank you for sharing! I'm inspired!
Yea I've noticed a lot of people haven't picked up on the max mag 2h build yet, still tons of "stam sorcs" running around struggling to heal.
I was running this is a BG and I got a whisper saying "you are bugged out we can't hurt you" and I'm thinking "hehe they don't realize I have a massive shield and also 10k d-swings lol"
@user-ov1uf5sk9l Nice!! I converted my stamsorc to melee mag based on this build. Fun! Then I unlocked smash last night, put magicka smash in place of wrecking blow for aoe spammable, it was awesome! I haven't tried it in pvp, though, but I'd like to test different forms of smash as a spammable, see how I like it compared to wrecking blow.
@@briankingham175what is smash?
@@fraserbartlett3877 It's the 2h scribing skill
Man this looks fun and like my kind of build. About to check to see if you have a similar variation video with any scribes skills in the mix possibly making it stronger.
Most of you just don't know. This dude makes the best builds. For the last 6 months I have been smashing everyone on Xbox.
He also smashes trix
Sup hex. Hope you are doing good. I was wondering if you were aware of any nerfs to sorc or this build that have taken place. About to start grinding out my remaining 4 leads for the torc. Excited to try this build
Hey! Yeah, so Sorc did catch a nerf they reduced the healing of Hardened Ward by about 33% total healing, so the healing can be a little tricky but definitely still great
@ okay cool. I’ll keep that in mind if I have to swap anything around. Thanks.
Do you think this build would still work with the recent nerf to hardened wards healing? I’m assuming it could still work but maybe only as a torc of the last king build for that mitigation.
I tried it a bit after patch and it was working fine, just need to Dark Deal more often and watch your health
Back after a few years and found this gem. Can’t get over the play style! So good.
Will there be any need to update it in U44?
Any scribing skills you can imagine finding a spot on the bars?
wretched vitality is a hex staple at this point. haha but it is unreal so I get it. got any ww builds especially with the buff?
hellsxpoo ! never to last ^^ and thx for the way and content !
and i have a question plz how do manage your Stam cause i'm low every time ! just withweapon absorb stam and set ? id it is that can we have a "typical damage cycle" ? ( im French and my English is bad maybe you detail in video and a miss it ?)
My play style is very different than most if you are having Stam issues I would definitely recommend the other morph “Dark Deal” what most players run, I just personally prefer Dark Conversion for my sweaty play style
@@Hexapug thx
Been away 3 Years from the Game and this looks so sick that i wanna try it on my Sorc =).
Does it Works witu chudan instead of balorgh so i can put hauting curse on backbar?
hey hex, iam a fan of the build, however i prefer DW to 2h, is there a way to make it work? any thoughts or recommendations? should i sacrifice camo hunter, and keep crystal weapon/rending?
You’d have to run Rending or Whirling Blades as your spam able, I’m about to begin some testing of StamSorc with 2H and 2W soon
@@Hexapug thank you for the reply! looking forward to seeing whats next, stam sorc is my baby. im excited. keep up the great content sir! 🫡🙏
This looks hella fun to play, just curious is this viable in cp cyro or mainly aimed at bgs? Coz I seariously wanna try this out
This build is more specialized for CP Cyrodiil, but definitely packs a punch in No CP and BG’s
@@Hexapug my guys thanks, tried your build out an it’s banging. Just took my sorc to a whole new fun lvl. Keep them builds coming
Do you think the build could still be done using the base game ftp sets
Would love to see a 2h stamdk from you. I miss the old playstyle so much
Which did u run in the intro???
Hi i will play this setup on, proc cp cyro. ITS so ok will you change someone
How does it work? Am new to the game would it work vice versa? If i were running a stam sorc but do damage with magic abilities?
How does it scale damage? I still dont understand :/
So almost every skill is hybridized meaning they will scale with whatever stat is higher, with few exceptions typically shields only scale with Max Mag or Health
For example it will look at whatever is higher if my Max Mag is higher it will use that, and if my Weapon Damage is higher it will use that and if my Spell Crit is higher it will still use that, even if the skill cost Stam and does Physical damage
So the reason this build stacks into Max Mag is because the Hardened Ward damage shield and heal ONLY scales off Max Mag so that’s why this build is very potent with Max Mag and can’t be replicated on Max Stam builds
@@Hexapug wow thats news to me. Thanks for taking the time. I was under the impression stam weapons would only scale with stamina.
In your opinion, What do you think a stamsorc would benefit from compared to a mag sorc? It seems to me stamsorcs only benefit from having a bigger resource pool to spam spells :/ sorry if this is a bad question. And thank you for taking the time
Only mythic I have is Markyn Ring of Majesty, will that work in the first setup? If not which set up would I be better off farming the mythic for?
Honestly Markyn is your second best for this, the New Saint and Seducer mythic is another strong one with a really high drop rate if you have the new Gold Road chapter
Hex do you think the torc setup or the death dealers is better?
I personally highly prefer the Torc because it’s the best survivability in the game, the damage mitigation makes you nearly unkillable
I've got the exact same build with torc, but my max mag is wayyyy lower at only 36k. Max health and stam are the same, what have I missed?
That’s about how much I had with the Torc, my Stat Sheet stats was with Non Torc stats, with Death Dealer’s, Crafty, Wretched, Balorgh’s as I forgot to include my Torc stats
Ah easy, I was wracking my brain like I'd forgotten something obvious but dumb lol
Could this work in a proc campaign or is it purely for non proc? Especially the torc setup
Torc doesn’t work in no proc
It doesn't work in nocp
Does that mean it won't work in BG's?
@@Nas-xu2uldid you ever find out if torc works in bgs now
do you have to run vamp? or can js go human?
It is EXTREMELY recommended to be a Vampire in PvP for the mitigation, but not entirely mandatory
Now vap ist nerved. So ist better Play wit or without vamp stage3
Anything I can run to replace Balorg? Havent got the helmet yet.
Bloodspawn is probably your best bet until then, DON’T USE Engine Guardian as it will prevent you from healing from Hardened Ward
@@Hexapug I ended up putting on one Domihaus and one Baron Zaudrus just for the max stats. Obviously doesn’t hit as hard as Balorg but was swatting people in BGs anyway.
That’s the beauty of Sorc, even without min max set ups, it still slaps
Would triple infused or bloodthirsty give more damage?
triple blood thirsty, in pvp at about 60 percent health BT is better then infused unless you need the spell damage for heal buffs BT is always gonna be better then infused
you: +15% shield hp +15%damage to shields
Opponent: +15% shield hp +15 damage to shields
negates itself lmao
Is melee magsorc stronger than stamsorc now?
Definitely 100%! Ward having a heal is the most broken thing they’ve added to the game
How did you grind over 400 cp in two months?
Hardcore grinding during the 2x XP events, also grinded over 10 toons to max Undaunted, Psijic and Mage’s in that time, so crown store purchases
I’m just a grinder at heart
Yeeeeees this is brilliant 👏 👌
How does your maul look like a sword
If you go to an Outfit Station you can change the look of your gear and weapons
could this build works fine with an orc?
Most definitely, just run it identical to mine
+15% shield effectiveness and +15% damage done to shields xD if you run into anyone else running that CP bonus it negates itself
Hey hexapug, I just started eso again and need a disgusting Templar build. I loved your cheeseplar. Gimme cheddar bruv
Check out the CheeseBlade video I made, that new proc set they added is the most toxic set in PvP rn
@@Hexapug ok will do but I only play magden or plar in pvp. I just need something for solo play and the game got more confusing on how classes work imo. Great that you replied tho. I actually check u first when it's about pvp builds. Have a great one mate.
Tbh if you want the Cheeseplar 2.0, I’d run Tarnished Nightmare front bar 2W, with a 5 piece Static like Deadly or Rallying Cry, with Vateshran backbar, and Balorgh’s, remove Rending Slashes
@@Hexapug Thx man, I'll translate that and check it out.
your videos are so good
this vs cheeseblade, who wins?
Honestly a close match it comes down to who’s more skilled, but I’d favor MagSorc because of the the strong Wards
Still so weird to see a melee based build using a stam-spammable and stam-finisher with 26k stam pool 🤣
Too bad they HAD TO OF nerfed the drop rate but still not a single lead for torcs since launch.
Still strong?
Dope video
COOOOL BEAANNSSS🍌
Tgought u said a Torc build
I feel you on having no 5 star. I've deleted so many toons and play all classes. Its crazy to see those people that only play 1 class for like 2 years
My bad I forgot to mention that it will be my first 5 Star on PC, as I just recently transferred over and regrinded everything, I have many 5 Stars on Xbox
@@Hexapug I hate you
You were hexeso?
@cameronbachman8161 No
Hellsxpoo!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hellsxpoo
Why 30 min video on 8 min build
Because it’s “my channel” and “my video”, and I give “my” thoughts and opinions of the build, exactly why I add time stamps for people to quickly get the info they want
@@HexapugHaters will be haters. Keep doing your thang. I love the vids.
How do you consistently find these low level players?
If I’m lucky after hours of getting Zerged or ganked into Oblivion
hellsxpoo