Louie...Amazing technology isn't it! That thing is just beautiful ! I can't wait till the IQR is up & running with all that you've done to it. I bet you're just as itchy like the rest of us? The test ride is going to be out of this world! Thanks for sharing all your videos Louie.
@@PowerModzOfficial Yes but not by much. The Alpha One skid weighs 37.6 lbs BUT it costs about half, has excellent snow clearing capabilities and strength is probably a none issue, Have you ever broken a regular skid?
How are the typical grease/plastic insert points handled? Like to see it stripped down a bit to see the rest of the parts for the front and rear are mountings. They have a of close up shots on there site but couldn't find anything to explain how the wear point where handled. I assume plastic inserts?
Powermodz your grate and I think this would be good for my sled bought it pretty light at 440 and with a can and since I'm ditching the electric start it should be 420 pounds. I will get this suspension but $5500 is a lot of money
new sleds i america where i gues you live sled only cost 11.000 dollar, but here in sweden a new sled cost 25.000 dollar becouse of the inportation costs so dont u complain >:(
Louis I have a question for you. What would I have to do to convert my 580zr efi to a 145" track I'm not worried about extending the tunnel, I'm just wondering how to find the right skid, track, drive gears exc....... Please help me out I know your good with this stuff thank you.
this suspension type sucks on trails, it's meant to get the sled up on the snow and to stop trenching with articulation of the pitch..all of that is lost on a groomed trail.
sorry it is sick and if i was rich i would buy one for my m8 but 5 grand to shed some weight aint worth it to me ill get a light weight seat and pipe and can 1/4 the price sick skid tho for sure!
This is totally awesome, for all the "nay sayers" out there just remember that carbon fiber has come a long ways, especially over the last decade. The advances from real life use/abuse of the technology in race/military applications and advanced tech that has come from it are amazing... the latest zero void CF that was at one time only available to the military and NASA is now available to the civilian market and you will be astounded and the things that will come out using it in the next 10 years. I even have a rifle with a CF barrel on it.. whoda thunkit 10 years ago. At $4K the initial cost is high but if you look at it (like you should) from a cost of ownership perspective this is actually cheap.. it will easily outlast several sleds and retain excellent resale value down the road should anyone ever want to sell one used.
If i buy a fast m20 in canada its $5000. I have a 06 apex thats worth $5000. Now i have a $10,000 apex worth $5000. And im pretty sure that carbon fiber unit is wzy more then $5000 canadian. So much for a suspension upgrade!!!
justforlaughs8988 yes it is..it's better than any factory suspension. and yes there are other ways to spend money but the 2 main ways are engine and suspension. it all boils down to budget and priorities.
Looked on the website the rails alone are $1200. If I had to guess the the whole suspension is probably going to be in the $3000 up region. Especially seeing as the Aluminum one is $2800.
very sick product! but If I'm reading the website right that's a 4000$ + rear suspension if we went to order. Which I'm sry but that's just frickin insane for a rear suspension or any after market part for that matter. you say that rev suspension was 60lbs in this vid? this one is 29-30lbs? is saving the 30 or so lbs really worth a 4k price tag? In my book fuck no lmao
When mountain moders lose weight on their sled the first ponds are very cheap but as they go on the hardcore guys spend hundreds per pound. C3 full carbon built sleds go up to 30000$ dollars. The Carl's Motorsports RMK pro 900 boondocker's turbo C3 full carbon is worth 40000$ at 405 pounds. This is an amazing product as you stated and i agree its not for the average consumer, Can't wait to try this out :D
I would love this but my sled was only 1600$ cdn and this is $2000 ? Wow . Must be awesome modding sleds for a living. Love these videos tho , I watch them all and has made me (a beginner) way more confident in working on my own machine .
now who's going to make us carbon fiber hyfax's? There's a part of the snowmobile that stopped evolving but poses the biggest pain in the ass for high mile riders.
This is way too expensive of a product for $5400 that’s damn near half the price of a brand new sled .. I won’t be getting it unless I won the lotto !!
This is not the best suspension ever hahaha you make me laugh. The best suspension maybe for Mountain riding!! If your looking for the best suspension ever you have to look at FAST. The M10 totally changed suspensions in snowmobiles. It was and actually still is a revolution in suspension technology. The big Four have completely copied them. Also you can thank the REV chassis and the rider forward and better balance of snowmobiles because of FAST. I like it its a nice piece but with that mono shock I bet it would totally suck ditch banging...
+stubby2871 Hey thanks for your comments, Ive seen the FAST suspension but have never tried it, have you tried the Mono suspension ditch banging? I'd try the FAST, I know how the Mono works because I've used it and it's a great suspension. Thanks for watching!
+PowerModz I have not tried the Mono, Im really skeptical just for the fact that I ve seen videos of the twin shock and why its better as far as the suspension as it moves through a bump. If you go to Fast they have videos of it. Also I dont do much powder riding as I live in western MN we dont get much powder but we do have ditches and the M10 suspension works really well for that. If you look at FASTs past they came out with their M10 for cross country racing which is allot of ditches etc. Sleds with the M10 dominated because riders didnt get fatigue so much riding the sled, it also helped give better control of the sled. Here are some sites to check out. snowgoer.com/snowmobiling-features/snowmobilings-10-most-important-designs/ snowgoer.com/snowmobiling-features/fasts-blade-10-years-later/ I really enjoy your channel
first off you have the best sled videos on youtube by far, the rMotion is supposed to b tweaked a bit to be more progressive rate similar to the Polaris Rush...I still don't understand how it can be as good since Polaris have that huge monoshock....to me it just looks like Ski Doo made a minor change to the very back, oh not sure the part name, sorry, but looks like the very back of rMotion was tweaked abit. maybe you can fill me in on the engineering. would like to hear your thoughts on ski doo and polaris rear suspensions.
Louie...Amazing technology isn't it! That thing is just beautiful ! I can't wait till the IQR is up & running with all that you've done to it. I bet you're just as itchy like the rest of us? The test ride is going to be out of this world! Thanks for sharing all your videos Louie.
Arctic cat: Hold my beer
pretty sure its still lighter than artcic cats...and way stronger.
@@PowerModzOfficial Yes but not by much. The Alpha One skid weighs 37.6 lbs BUT it costs about half, has excellent snow clearing capabilities and strength is probably a none issue, Have you ever broken a regular skid?
wow yes ,, its a work of art
How are the typical grease/plastic insert points handled? Like to see it stripped down a bit to see the rest of the parts for the front and rear are mountings. They have a of close up shots on there site but couldn't find anything to explain how the wear point where handled. I assume plastic inserts?
Does it exist something like that for a stock yamaha phazer mtx ?
Look at that shallow angle of attack on the tips of the rails😍
Lou! I wanna see the IQR build videos! Please post them!
what kind of camera do you use?
mine is monoshock but it is from 1971 so what upgrades can i do for it
How much is it and with some modding will it fit on a 74 ski doo elan
That suspension is more than the sled :-)....
That's bad ASS awesomeness!!!!!!!!!
Will it fit my 94 Skidoo STX?
how much where do you buy that ?
The best suspension ever..
What did that setup cost??
The new monorail is the way to go !
Great vid. How Much does it cost?
that's badass,,,, nice wght drop...hate to see ptice for one
WOW!
Powermodz your grate and I think this would be good for my sled bought it pretty light at 440 and with a can and since I'm ditching the electric start it should be 420 pounds. I will get this suspension but $5500 is a lot of money
geoff ault not worth
Cool
Véro satisfying thanks for Ali that Carbon fiber
that is insane and I bet more than my sleds put together.
I want to upgrade my timbersled mountain horse with this!!!
It's awesome and all, but seeing at it likely costs in the range of $3,000 big ones, it's worth more than any sled I've ever owned! haha
new sleds i america where i gues you live sled only cost 11.000 dollar, but here in sweden a new sled cost 25.000 dollar becouse of the inportation costs so dont u complain >:(
Erik Larsson
i just looked at the prices, $2800 for all aluminum and about another $3800 for all carbon fibre... It would be near the $7000 range.
Very nice, I would hate to see the price of that skid!
why do you show your new polaris sled before the build is done? same track, suspention, tank, tunnel and front bow as we have seen in the build
Long story
Louis I have a question for you. What would I have to do to convert my 580zr efi to a 145" track I'm not worried about extending the tunnel, I'm just wondering how to find the right skid, track, drive gears exc....... Please help me out I know your good with this stuff thank you.
Rotor blades on the helicopter I fly are carbon fiber
When the front of the suspension hit the bottom, that one rod sticks out and hit the track? See it in the weighing.
No it won't
It looks like it but it doesnt
Would this be a practical suspension in trail applications, or is this strictly mountain use?
Unless u want the fastest sled ever on the trails
this suspension type sucks on trails, it's meant to get the sled up on the snow and to stop trenching with articulation of the pitch..all of that is lost on a groomed trail.
sorry it is sick and if i was rich i would buy one for my m8 but 5 grand to shed some weight aint worth it to me ill get a light weight seat and pipe and can 1/4 the price
sick skid tho for sure!
Love it, but the price!! Aaargh‼️ 💷
done it come in tmotion :)
$5400 wow really worth it
video starts at 3:00 if you dont want to watch a package getting opened
Thank-you!
This is totally awesome, for all the "nay sayers" out there just remember that carbon fiber has come a long ways, especially over the last decade. The advances from real life use/abuse of the technology in race/military applications and advanced tech that has come from it are amazing... the latest zero void CF that was at one time only available to the military and NASA is now available to the civilian market and you will be astounded and the things that will come out using it in the next 10 years. I even have a rifle with a CF barrel on it.. whoda thunkit 10 years ago. At $4K the initial cost is high but if you look at it (like you should) from a cost of ownership perspective this is actually cheap.. it will easily outlast several sleds and retain excellent resale value down the road should anyone ever want to sell one used.
If i buy a fast m20 in canada its $5000. I have a 06 apex thats worth $5000. Now i have a $10,000 apex worth $5000. And im pretty sure that carbon fiber unit is wzy more then $5000 canadian. So much for a suspension upgrade!!!
Excuse me, I meant a 144" track sorry.
does anyone think I could put that on my 97 vmax sx 700 triple?
last time I checked it was like either 3 or 6k for it
it's worth 5x as much as those sleds but if you're into modding...extend the tunnel and go for it!
Nate Tucker . You sure could but for that price you could buy 5 of those sleds
Damn!!
What is the price? never mind i dont want to know.
+SummitX800 $5400.oo
I like my cat walks so ill keep my 2 shock aluminum suspension
yes thats expensive but people need to know!!!@!
the question is is it really worth it? truly I could think of so many ways that would be better to spend my money for my sled no?
justforlaughs8988 yes it is..it's better than any factory suspension. and yes there are other ways to spend money but the 2 main ways are engine and suspension. it all boils down to budget and priorities.
It looks so nice I would be sad to scar it up.
I think it will look better than an aluminum suspension after time has passed. lets see what happens!
Touche, aluminum oxidizes.. Have a good season Louis, and keep the helpful vids coming.
it's pretty.... i tend towards older, vintage sleds.... I'll take your elan.... lol
becouse you cant afford new moster sleds ?
no, I do have better things to waste my money on...
like..........
I build gasifier systems... make gasoline engines run on wood... things like that...
International Supply i have to take your word on it :P
Looked on the website the rails alone are $1200. If I had to guess the the whole suspension is probably going to be in the $3000 up region. Especially seeing as the Aluminum one is $2800.
very sick product! but If I'm reading the website right that's a 4000$ + rear suspension if we went to order. Which I'm sry but that's just frickin insane for a rear suspension or any after market part for that matter. you say that rev suspension was 60lbs in this vid? this one is 29-30lbs? is saving the 30 or so lbs really worth a 4k price tag? In my book fuck no lmao
When mountain moders lose weight on their sled the first ponds are very cheap but as they go on the hardcore guys spend hundreds per pound. C3 full carbon built sleds go up to 30000$ dollars. The Carl's Motorsports RMK pro 900 boondocker's turbo C3 full carbon is worth 40000$ at 405 pounds. This is an amazing product as you stated and i agree its not for the average consumer, Can't wait to try this out :D
I would love this but my sled was only 1600$ cdn and this is $2000 ? Wow . Must be awesome modding sleds for a living.
Love these videos tho , I watch them all and has made me (a beginner) way more confident in working on my own machine .
:O spoke too soon
I need to make a youtube channel so i can write off parts on my taxes
now who's going to make us carbon fiber hyfax's? There's a part of the snowmobile that stopped evolving but poses the biggest pain in the ass for high mile riders.
way outa my budget. I wonder what other things can be carbon fibre that isn't so expensive?
Im sure its $$, but how much is your back worth.
Yeah very light and very expensive how much does this one cost $7,000.00
Of course it is expensive It is a custom suspension made from carbon fibre - not something just punched out of metal.....that comes with a price.
I noticed you didnt mention the price for one of these for a modern sled> How come....tee hee!!!
+Darren Betker Because it's 5400 CAD on the website
Man, I wonder how this carbon fiber stood up to the test of time. CF is so brittle in the cold...
At minus 173Kelvin everything is brittle. these rails wont break or bend like aluminum will no mater what the temp
Send it to me I'll put it on my sled
it's so pretty but so pricey ugh decisions decisions
You talk funny
yup!
I love that kinda stuff but $5,400 is never gunna be popular. I can buy a nice used sled for that, obviously.
it's like skidoo's t-motion!
I think if you look at it you will notice some differences:)
PowerModz i know, but u need to have a flex track with that to.
***** No you don't need it. We have two flex tracks and there isnt much flex if any.
PowerModz okey, if you say so...
***** Lots of guys are ditching the flex edge tracks, they arent needed in my opinion.
This is way too expensive of a product for $5400 that’s damn near half the price of a brand new sled .. I won’t be getting it unless I won the lotto !!
it does and doesn't work i will sell you mine
This is not the best suspension ever hahaha you make me laugh. The best suspension maybe for Mountain riding!! If your looking for the best suspension ever you have to look at FAST. The M10 totally changed suspensions in snowmobiles. It was and actually still is a revolution in suspension technology. The big Four have completely copied them. Also you can thank the REV chassis and the rider forward and better balance of snowmobiles because of FAST. I like it its a nice piece but with that mono shock I bet it would totally suck ditch banging...
+stubby2871 Hey thanks for your comments, Ive seen the FAST suspension but have never tried it, have you tried the Mono suspension ditch banging? I'd try the FAST, I know how the Mono works because I've used it and it's a great suspension. Thanks for watching!
+PowerModz I have not tried the Mono, Im really skeptical just for the fact that I ve seen videos of the twin shock and why its better as far as the suspension as it moves through a bump. If you go to Fast they have videos of it. Also I dont do much powder riding as I live in western MN we dont get much powder but we do have ditches and the M10 suspension works really well for that. If you look at FASTs past they came out with their M10 for cross country racing which is allot of ditches etc. Sleds with the M10 dominated because riders didnt get fatigue so much riding the sled, it also helped give better control of the sled. Here are some sites to check out.
snowgoer.com/snowmobiling-features/snowmobilings-10-most-important-designs/
snowgoer.com/snowmobiling-features/fasts-blade-10-years-later/
I really enjoy your channel
lame, ski doo rMotion is better.
I love the feedback, what do you like better about the R motion?
first off you have the best sled videos on youtube by far, the rMotion is supposed to b tweaked a bit to be more progressive rate similar to the Polaris Rush...I still don't understand how it can be as good since Polaris have that huge monoshock....to me it just looks like Ski Doo made a minor change to the very back, oh not sure the part name, sorry, but looks like the very back of rMotion was tweaked abit. maybe you can fill me in on the engineering. would like to hear your thoughts on ski doo and polaris rear suspensions.