Great video! Have you heard of ConnecTubes? You can build a real steel frame without welding. The system is super cheap and uses steel couplers and 1.5 x 1.5" square galvanized steel tubing. Highly recommend you learn about this building product to use for bbq frames etc... The price is comparable to track and studs. They even have telescoping cutout kits for less cutting.
Can I have my hubby do the same thing, except our outdoor kitchen would be mainly for chopping and cutting and having a sink? We have a covered back porch on a cement slab. I was also wondering if 3/4 inch quartz would be ok as a countertop as i found a local deal for $200 that is like brand new and already has sink cut out and all.
3/4 quartz should be fine, i believe it weights less than concrete. if you plan on cutting meats I would recommend you to connect the drain to a sewer line
How is the concrete slab holding up? I was told it should have footings and be at least 1 foot thick? I have a 5.5” patio with rebar. Im still debating building it on there. It’s going to be 25”x16 ft. Any feedback would be appreciated
Hi Eddie, I am new t DIY and was wondering if you could provide the detail measurements of the island and where/ what the products are and where to get it, it would help me build the island myself.
@@Ivangonzalez-12 material is crazy expensive right now. I have bunch of personal projects that have been delayed because of the increase in price. Plywood is over $60 a sheet now.
Hi Eddie ... Thank you for sharing your project. I hope you don't mind me making an outdoor rolling bbq island with your idea. Just as another option on cutting 18 guage studs and tracks. If you have a reciprocating saw and vice, you can easily cut through that metal. I had another project that was twice as thick as yours and the reciprocating saw made nice cuts. Once again ... Thank you for sharing. BTW ... You mentioned you went to a metal shop to by your metal. Rightly so as neither home depot or Lowe's sells it. Where did you buy your granite???
I definitely don't mind, Yes I have thought about different methods for cutting the studs. I had a grinder and cut off wheels, it was no extra cost. but if I were to build them regularly, I would look into a cut off saw or a stud cutter. I went to a local drywall supplier for the studs and tracks, I don't have granite on the bbq it was a pour in place concrete counter top. Check out the rest of my build videos on my page!
@@bumstudios8817 Good question. I have an adjustable vice mounted to my 5 tier 8x3 heavy duty work bench which I made myself. I have used the vice and a reciprocating saw on another project which turned out fine. If the edge is sharp ... I use a file bit on my portable dewalt drill to smooth the sharp edge.
Just found your series on the bbq and gonna go through the videos. I’m new to metal studs; what is the expected longevity in the outdoor environment for framing with steel? (I’m in SoCal) Do you treat the cut edges with anything? Thanks for posting.
DanielinLaTuna thanks for watching. One thing about steel studs is making sure the steel is G40 rated or higher G60 preferred. I used G40 rated studs which in my environment (Northern California) I should be able to see many years of use without any worries; I used composite board for ground contact to help. Looking back I would of spray painted the ends to help minimize any rusting in the long run. I have not had any issues at all or noticed any rust on the studs. Watch out for the sharp edges I cut my self multiple times wear gloves and proper safety equipment!
Hey Eddie , very nice video and awesome outdoor kitchen, getting ready to start mine, lots of of info you gave.. I was wondering if you can give a approximate metal was used.? Just don’t want to over kill on material.. again , very nice job
thank you, I believe it was 12 - 10' sections of C channel and 20 - 10' studs; 120 ft of channel and 200 ft of studs, give or take. Check out the rest of the bbq build on my channel !
Pamela Hernandez thank you, the cement boards help strengthen the frame by eliminating movement and provide a surface for the tile to bond. (In my case) check out the rest of my videos on my channel. thanks for watching!
Thanks for your info. I was asking about the Composite board along the bottom bottom that is spaced out. Does this composite board provide against movement also?
I tried my best but sometimes it didn't line up, I just drilled a new hole with a step bit to run the conduit. did you get 10ft studs or 8 foot? I used 10s
Bryan C I used composite shims (found them at homedepot) between the composite deck board and frame then screwed them together. Check out the rest of my videos
Hey Eddy, awesome built!! I'm about too start mine and doing some research. You said you used 20 gauge studs and they seem pretty strong. Home depot has 24 gauge. They feel flimsy. I know that they also made 16 gauge. So you feel that even with the concrete countertop on top, the 20 gauge are good enough for that? thanks!!
Actually 20 gauge can also be used for non structural as, as weird as it sounds, the 20 gauge studs come in 2 different thickness, wall or structural. I just want to make sure what was used here and if it's good enough before I purchase all my stuff.
You said that the depth of your grill needed to be 28 inches so you made the frame 28 inches? Or did you have a couple of inches to spare? In other words did you make the frame like 32 inches depth and but a 28 inch hole for the grill?
the frame depth was set at 28", the BBQ cutout was 21". i have about 7" to spare in the rear. each bbq has a specific cutout set by the mfg, hope this clarifies and helps out
Thanks so much for posting these. Great set of videos. I have watched your series multiple times and it has answered a lot of questions. However there is one that I still need answered. How did you decide on 20G studs? I was wondering about what gage to use and called a local drywall supplier and they were reluctant to make a recommendation based on my application (3" concrete countertop and a 54" viking grill). So they called the stud manufacturer and told them my plans and they recommended 16G. Seems overkill and not to mention its triple the price per stud. Whats your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for watching! I eventually decided to go with 20g with all the research I made on mfg data sheets for metal studs. Since my countertop is only 1.5" anything less than 20g would of been overkill for me @ 2' on center, (I decided 16" on center). Any particular reason you want to make a 3" countertop? The reason I ask is because if you lower the height of your counter by 1" it would save you about 12lbs every square foot which would bring the weight down considerably. I have noticed many manufactures use 18g+ studs. what size bbq are you making?
The main thing you want to calculate it the weight of the concrete. once you have the total weight per square foot selecting the correct gauge would be easy. Did they recommend any spacing on the 16g? possibly get away with 18-20gauge and space closer together
Thanks for the reply. Any advice is welcome. To answer your question I like the look of a thicker countertop(3-4"). I could be wrong but a thick counter will look better paired with the giant 54" viking grill that was given to me. I plan on getting the foam molds to put around the edge of the form. Prolly will go with that rough cut look on the edge. My kitchen will be U shaped with a 10x10 spec. with a 36'' wide counter and a 18" cantilevered portion(10' long).
filby209 have you checked out z countertop forms that create the illusion of a thicker counter by having an extra 1/2-1" overhang? www.concretecountertopsolutions.com/products/countertop-products/countertop-forms Sounds like your bbq project is going to be awesome and fun
Thanks for all your advice. I finally know the outcome of my 2017 taxes(I don't hafta write a fat check like last yr.) and plan to get started soon. Is there a PM option here on youtube?
Boy the price of steel shot up since this video lol just paid $550usd for 60ft of 16g track and 60ft of 16g stud... That's all they had in stock so I just went with it. Oh well
Eddie, How long did it take to frame up the kitchen. I really wanted to build it myself but after getting a bid from a mason on using blocks he will build it for $500 including the blocks and it is 6' X 8' L shaped The amount of time involved in framing and a mason building it I would be better off not framing it myself. I still will have to include the stone and granite countertop that will be another $2600 plus the access doors and side burner. I bought a brand New in the box Lion Grill for $450, so I am saving on that part of it. The link below will show the drawing and images of what it will look like drive.google.com/drive/folders/12Qy_23Nj-4a0L2n8FW2TORUrmD0e_VQ1?usp=sharing
Just the framing was about 2-3 days but I only worked on it for 3-4 couple hours at a time. $500 is a great price for blocks, I use to be a Mason. Does that price include the foundation, labor and materials?
It is being built on my aggregate patio which has been there for 30 years, so that is the foundation. The $500 is labor and materials, but for $1600 he will build it and install the stone veneer and include all materials including Centurion cultured stone. I am not going to attempt to do any of except installing the grill and access doors. I live in Nashville, TN and www.centurionstone.com/ is a local manufacturer and the stone is $4.75 a sqft. I am only needing less than 60 sqft. I have enjoyed watching your videos and inspired me to do it myself but I just don't have the time so I am willing to pay someone else. Thanks for the response.
@@timdthompson that is definitely a great price, I would also pay $1600; we can't get that price here in California that size would be at least 5-7k. For the same size of my island with cheaper materials (stucco) I was quoted 9-10k complete island. Thanks for the compliment and watching!
This video still paying dividends for us DIY’ers! 😀 thanks Eddie!
Great work Eddie!!!
Great video. Did you anchor the composite boards to the concrete slab? I assume yes.
Great tips I appreciate it 😁😎👍
How long did the entire kitchen take. It looks GREAT!
I believe the process took a couple months but only working a couple hours in the mornings and a day on weekends. Thanks for watching
Hi, how many metal frames did you bought?
say your a commercial drywall contractor without saying. rock on brother
Can you possibly provide a shopping list?
Great video! Have you heard of ConnecTubes? You can build a real steel frame without welding. The system is super cheap and uses steel couplers and 1.5 x 1.5" square galvanized steel tubing. Highly recommend you learn about this building product to use for bbq frames etc... The price is comparable to track and studs. They even have telescoping cutout kits for less cutting.
Thank you for the video! When you added the decking board did you cut it to size or a little shorter than the frame?
I cut it to the frame, thanks for watching
@@d.i.yeddie6075 Thank you
Did you shoot that into that rock
Hello I was wondering what is the name of the thing put in the whole to pass the electrical wires or cables
its called Flexible conduit
@@d.i.yeddie6075 Thank you. My dad watched your video. After 7 days he's almost finishing with his outdoor kitchen
@@lohanapowell That is awesome to hear!
Nice job Eddie, saving your videos for help with my project. Thanks
skeon67 thanks for watching
Can I have my hubby do the same thing, except our outdoor kitchen would be mainly for chopping and cutting and having a sink? We have a covered back porch on a cement slab. I was also wondering if 3/4 inch quartz would be ok as a countertop as i found a local deal for $200 that is like brand new and already has sink cut out and all.
3/4 quartz should be fine, i believe it weights less than concrete. if you plan on cutting meats I would recommend you to connect the drain to a sewer line
Quartz is not made to be outdoors. It will yellow and change color. Use a natural stone instead.
How is the concrete slab holding up? I was told it should have footings and be at least 1 foot thick? I have a 5.5” patio with rebar. Im still debating building it on there. It’s going to be 25”x16 ft. Any feedback would be appreciated
Hi Eddie, I am new t DIY and was wondering if you could provide the detail measurements of the island and where/ what the products are and where to get it, it would help me build the island myself.
yes I am in the process of making a follow up video with all the details and updates!
in the meantime if you look through the comments on all my videos, I have answered most of your questions
Hey Eddie. I'm going to undertake this task pretty soon. I'm curious on what studs should I go with?
Thats awesome to hear, I would go with either 20 gauge or 18 ga.
About how many Metal studs did you use ?
It was about 4 bundles (48) of studs and 1 of track (12), more or less a dozen. Its been a while
Corner braces?
where can you get the metal again....
I got them at my local drywall supplier company.
Great series of videos. You just help us build our U Shape Kitchen....THANK YOU!!
That is awesome to hear! Glad to help out! its a really great DIY project and affordable if you are willing to build it yourself!
Good stuff. Do you think this type of framing can support a 500kg pizza oven?
I am honestly not sure, might want to step up to a structural stud 14g to help support 500kg
What type of screws did you use
I used coated scews described on the first video you can use pan head self tapping screws as well
Thank you for the videos! Watched your video many, many times. Here is my build.... @
How much can someone charge to frame one of this for me
where you located ?
I’m in Tampa fl
@@Ivangonzalez-12 material is crazy expensive right now. I have bunch of personal projects that have been delayed because of the increase in price. Plywood is over $60 a sheet now.
Hi Eddie ... Thank you for sharing your project. I hope you don't mind me making an outdoor rolling bbq island with your idea. Just as another option on cutting 18 guage studs and tracks. If you have a reciprocating saw and vice, you can easily cut through that metal. I had another project that was twice as thick as yours and the reciprocating saw made nice cuts. Once again ... Thank you for sharing. BTW ... You mentioned you went to a metal shop to by your metal. Rightly so as neither home depot or Lowe's sells it. Where did you buy your granite???
I definitely don't mind, Yes I have thought about different methods for cutting the studs. I had a grinder and cut off wheels, it was no extra cost. but if I were to build them regularly, I would look into a cut off saw or a stud cutter.
I went to a local drywall supplier for the studs and tracks, I don't have granite on the bbq it was a pour in place concrete counter top.
Check out the rest of my build videos on my page!
How do you keep the lines straight and level with a reciprocating saw? I would be all over the place
@@bumstudios8817 Good question. I have an adjustable vice mounted to my 5 tier 8x3 heavy duty work bench which I made myself. I have used the vice and a reciprocating saw on another project which turned out fine. If the edge is sharp ... I use a file bit on my portable dewalt drill to smooth the sharp edge.
You can also use double cuts. Or also known as Shears. They work very well when working with metal studs and track and cut really smooth and straight.
Just found your series on the bbq and gonna go through the videos. I’m new to metal studs; what is the expected longevity in the outdoor environment for framing with steel? (I’m in SoCal) Do you treat the cut edges with anything? Thanks for posting.
DanielinLaTuna thanks for watching. One thing about steel studs is making sure the steel is G40 rated or higher G60 preferred. I used G40 rated studs which in my environment (Northern California) I should be able to see many years of use without any worries; I used composite board for ground contact to help. Looking back I would of spray painted the ends to help minimize any rusting in the long run. I have not had any issues at all or noticed any rust on the studs. Watch out for the sharp edges I cut my self multiple times wear gloves and proper safety equipment!
Hey Eddie , very nice video and awesome outdoor kitchen, getting ready to start mine, lots of of info you gave.. I was wondering if you can give a approximate metal was used.? Just don’t want to over kill on material.. again , very nice job
thank you, I believe it was 12 - 10' sections of C channel and 20 - 10' studs; 120 ft of channel and 200 ft of studs, give or take. Check out the rest of the bbq build on my channel !
Excellent job! Will you be doing more videos like this soon?
Best Access Doors Thank you I have updates on my channel.
Yes, Uploaded finished BBQ island video. Check it out!
How many studs, gauge, and length did you use?
I believe I ended up getting 30-35 studs 10' or 12' and 12 steel channels 10'. 18 or 20 gauge
Eddie, great video. Was wondering where did you get the studs for the frame. I couldn't find any at my local Home Depot. Any help would be awesome
caguamosoyyo thank you, I got them at a local drywall supply company
caguamosoyyo check again they are almost always there. Aluminum studs.
I might have missed it but did you bolt down the composite boards to the concrete or are they free to move around if needed to?
Fred Trevino I only secured them to the frame, after the counter top was poured the frames did not move .
What size of c channel did you use they offer different size a Home Depot
I used the same gauge and size for the studs that i bought for example is the studs were 3 5/8" the c channel was the same thanks for watching!
Great video! What is the purpose of the composite boards?
Pamela Hernandez thank you, the cement boards help strengthen the frame by eliminating movement and provide a surface for the tile to bond. (In my case) check out the rest of my videos on my channel. thanks for watching!
Thanks for your info. I was asking about the Composite board along the bottom bottom that is spaced out. Does this composite board provide against movement also?
Pamela Hernandez ohh lol it helps keep the metal frame off the ground to prevent any contact with wet surfaces and helps durability
Pamela Hernandez the structure is heavy once the countertops were added it does not move
D.I.Y Eddie What screws did you use to secure the metal tracks to the composite boards?
How do you line up the holes when working on cut list.? I need 35" high for short wall but it's so much waste to get that spec.??
I tried my best but sometimes it didn't line up, I just drilled a new hole with a step bit to run the conduit. did you get 10ft studs or 8 foot? I used 10s
Super cool
Alma Jaime Thank you
Eddie, How did you shim up your BBQ frame? I have a 1" fall for a 10' span. Is it necessary to raise the framing? Is there a reason you did this?
Bryan C I used composite shims (found them at homedepot) between the composite deck board and frame then screwed them together. Check out the rest of my videos
Bryan C I raised the framing to keep it off the ground and increase the galvanized frame lifespan.
@@d.i.yeddie6075 approximately how many shims do you put per ft?
@@duorah I added shims wherever I had the composite boards under the framing. Check out the rest of my build on my channel, thanks for watching
Hey Eddy, awesome built!! I'm about too start mine and doing some research. You said you used 20 gauge studs and they seem pretty strong. Home depot has 24 gauge. They feel flimsy. I know that they also made 16 gauge. So you feel that even with the concrete countertop on top, the 20 gauge are good enough for that? thanks!!
24 Guage is for drywall framing it is not a structural stud
Actually 20 gauge can also be used for non structural as, as weird as it sounds, the 20 gauge studs come in 2 different thickness, wall or structural.
I just want to make sure what was used here and if it's good enough before I purchase all my stuff.
What do you use to cut the metal studs?
J Lozano I used a grinder with a cutoff wheel and snips, some companies sell metal stud cutters which would of been way easier and safer
Why did u use steel and not block ? Do u no pros and cons?
I use to make them out of blocks, it takes long and not very diy friendly like studs. I prefer the studs over blocks any day!
so what was the length of the cut studs with the top and bottom c channel assembled ? Great job also
Thank you, I believe I cut them at 35" and counter top was at 37-38" the next time i will cut them at 32-33" to lower the counter to 36"
need to see the jobs end result!
I have the whole series on my channel check it out!
I do this at work but with aluminum square bar and welding
awesome!
You said that the depth of your grill needed to be 28 inches so you made the frame 28 inches? Or did you have a couple of inches to spare? In other words did you make the frame like 32 inches depth and but a 28 inch hole for the grill?
the frame depth was set at 28", the BBQ cutout was 21". i have about 7" to spare in the rear. each bbq has a specific cutout set by the mfg, hope this clarifies and helps out
Thanks so much for posting these. Great set of videos. I have watched your series multiple times and it has answered a lot of questions. However there is one that I still need answered. How did you decide on 20G studs? I was wondering about what gage to use and called a local drywall supplier and they were reluctant to make a recommendation based on my application
(3" concrete countertop and a 54" viking grill). So they called the stud manufacturer and told them my plans and they recommended 16G. Seems overkill and not to mention its triple the price per stud. Whats your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for watching! I eventually decided to go with 20g with all the research I made on mfg data sheets for metal studs. Since my countertop is only 1.5" anything less than 20g would of been overkill for me @ 2' on center, (I decided 16" on center). Any particular reason you want to make a 3" countertop? The reason I ask is because if you lower the height of your counter by 1" it would save you about 12lbs every square foot which would bring the weight down considerably. I have noticed many manufactures use 18g+ studs. what size bbq are you making?
The main thing you want to calculate it the weight of the concrete. once you have the total weight per square foot selecting the correct gauge would be easy. Did they recommend any spacing on the 16g? possibly get away with 18-20gauge and space closer together
Thanks for the reply. Any advice is welcome. To answer your question I like the look of a thicker countertop(3-4"). I could be wrong but a thick counter will look better paired with the giant 54" viking grill that was given to me. I plan on getting the foam molds to put around the edge of the form. Prolly will go with that rough cut look on the edge. My kitchen will be U shaped with a 10x10 spec. with a 36'' wide counter and a 18" cantilevered portion(10' long).
filby209 have you checked out z countertop forms that create the illusion of a thicker counter by having an extra 1/2-1" overhang? www.concretecountertopsolutions.com/products/countertop-products/countertop-forms
Sounds like your bbq project is going to be awesome and fun
Thanks for all your advice. I finally know the outcome of my 2017 taxes(I don't hafta write a fat check like last yr.) and plan to get started soon. Is there a PM option here on youtube?
Boy the price of steel shot up since this video lol just paid $550usd for 60ft of 16g track and 60ft of 16g stud... That's all they had in stock so I just went with it. Oh well
Wow that definitely went up in price. Your bbq is going to be solid with those 16g studs
Eddie, How long did it take to frame up the kitchen. I really wanted to build it myself but after getting a bid from a mason on using blocks he will build it for $500 including the blocks and it is 6' X 8' L shaped The amount of time involved in framing and a mason building it I would be better off not framing it myself. I still will have to include the stone and granite countertop that will be another $2600 plus the access doors and side burner. I bought a brand New in the box Lion Grill for $450, so I am saving on that part of it. The link below will show the drawing and images of what it will look like drive.google.com/drive/folders/12Qy_23Nj-4a0L2n8FW2TORUrmD0e_VQ1?usp=sharing
Just the framing was about 2-3 days but I only worked on it for 3-4 couple hours at a time. $500 is a great price for blocks, I use to be a Mason. Does that price include the foundation, labor and materials?
It is being built on my aggregate patio which has been there for 30 years, so that is the foundation. The $500 is labor and materials, but for $1600 he will build it and install the stone veneer and include all materials including Centurion cultured stone. I am not going to attempt to do any of except installing the grill and access doors. I live in Nashville, TN and www.centurionstone.com/ is a local manufacturer and the stone is $4.75 a sqft. I am only needing less than 60 sqft. I have enjoyed watching your videos and inspired me to do it myself but I just don't have the time so I am willing to pay someone else. Thanks for the response.
@@timdthompson that is definitely a great price, I would also pay $1600; we can't get that price here in California that size would be at least 5-7k. For the same size of my island with cheaper materials (stucco) I was quoted 9-10k complete island. Thanks for the compliment and watching!
You should visit woodprix website if you would like to make it by yourself I think.
,así como lo estás freimiando no te queda a nivel tengo 30 años asiendo bbq o
I e probado diferentes métodos de fraiming y ninguno me a gustado no ay como sujetar el fraiming al cemento y de anibelar es lo más profecional
Do you remember roughly what the whole project cost?
It was around $3400 but i got a great deal for the bbq