Bobbie was so mad because she thought random chance screwed them over. But knowing that Holden disarmed the warhead was so obvious and makes so much more sense that all she can do is laugh at how angry she got about it.
When I watch the scene where Chrisjen and Drummer meet, I always think about Drummer and Ashford’s conversation in season 3 when they’re trapped after the speed limit change, and Ashford talks about uniforms and the importance of symbols of unity. Ashford would have been so proud of season 6 Drummer.
Avasaralla's dress is supposed to be based off the exposed wiring of a belter ship. Also in the flashback, the belter who crushed the captain's glass cat is the same belter who spaced Prax's friend in season 2.
I love that Drummer only fidgets when it comes to Naomi. Cara Gee is amazing. And I’m totally on her side in being pissed at Naomi. They’re not besties; Drummer is absolutely, 100% _in love_ with Naomi in a way that Naomi just isn’t. No matter how objectively right Naomi is, it’s gut-wrenching to watch Drummer’s feelings “used against her”. Not that Naomi’s actively trying to torture Drummer, but it is torture all the same 💔 As for Amos and Bobbie, if they’re hooking up, I think Holden would have to ask them to… well, _not_ while on the Roci. It’s only a gunship, it’s not indestructible, and I’d worry about structural damage.
@@wtimmins Yeah, it's crazy how good she was in Expanse. I absolutely understand why they rewrote Drummers character to give Cara a much bigger role in the show.
What I loved about this x-ray is how Holden was lured into serving on the Cant with the promise of a future of little to no responsibility, which somehow led to all of this. So ironic, which is what makes it so great.
This is the episode that moved Drummer to the number one slot. "I wanted builders" the meeting, the interactions with Naomi, Cara Gee is just amazing. Really glad she is the focus of the upcoming game.
"Let me know if you want your face to look a little different." - Amos clapping Holden on the shoulder in S1. So amazing how far these characters have come. This is a brilliant series. So sad to get to the end.
For the record, a forest was built in the second largest soundstage for the Laconia scenes. There were challenges, to be sure, but it was impressive as a heck. Also, to accommodate schedules, the season was filmed somewhat out of order, so THAT scene on the revered Tynan was one of the last scenes filmed for the season and the show. And let me tell you, if there were some eyes which weren't so dry - for many reasons but not the least of which were Cara Gee's performance. Hot damn, she was so good at being Drummer. She was also even better at being a human to everyone on set. Warmest smile on the whole damn show. Good luck on your EXPANSE withdrawal phase, Ang.
Tye Franke, co-writer of the book series and one of the writers and producers on the show complimented Elias Toufexis as the only other actor besides Wes Chatham, who truely understood Amos as a character. The other actors who auditioned for the role would for example read lines where Amos is confronting someone as threatening. Elias and Wes understood that Amos in those situations doesn't make threats, he just makes matter of fact statements.
One of the biggest pitches I give to watch this show is the women, and the roles they play. There aren't many (any?) shows where female characters are the most powerful and important characters in the storyline, without any pretension. This is an incredible tale where women are key players without falling into ANY simple tropes. While Naomi and Holden have a relationship, it is not a stereotype, it is complex and real. Nothing is forced, and the writing doesn't fall into traps that could make this a lot worse. The showdown with Drummer and Avasarala is epic. I know you have seen the end. I hope you weren't disappointed:
I agree 100% but I didn't even realize this until maybe my 3rd or 4th watching. So much for "the Patriarchy" in "media" or whatever the fuck they call it. The books are the same way, generally. The amount of bad-ass women in this show is awesome. And they are all awesome. (Referring to the books) There are only a few real strong male characters, not including people like Dawes or Johnson. Way more bad ass chicks, for the most part. And it came completely naturally to the point (Like I said) I didn't even realize at first. Just like race, gender doesn't matter much. Granted this is a different world and what not but still. I think the biggest point is what you've already pointed out, zero 'simple tropes'. It would be easy to do that but they didn't. Not even in the books. There are so many other women in the books that are excluded for plot/screentime/etc reasons.
Nice cameo! Good job, Xander! I’ve played entirely too much Deus Ex (especially the newer ones), so every time I hear Elias Toufexis’ voice in any other context (including him as Kenzo in the show) it takes me minutes to shake the confusion 😂 Not at all complaining; this is a struggle of my own making. But I’d listen to him and Shoreh Aghdashloo discuss anything and everything.
That handshake! Chills. I remember when I watched this episode for the first time - as it ended on that handshake I could not help saying “holy shit” out loud. This time through I knew it was coming and it still hit me almost as hard. Overall, I ended the episode similarly to Angela: (1) the emotional gut punch of the conversation between Drummer and Naomi, (2) “damn, Avasarala looks amazing”, (3) chills at the handshake. As a side note, whoever designed Avasarala’s outfits deserves an award.
"So different from the Holden we know now." - Having been raised to be this Holden, mother Elise telling him to get away. I think he was always the Holden we know now, but he was trying to run away from himself.
The story is far from over. Laconia stuff, including the kids is coming in hot. :-D Even when not continuing with the books I can only strongly recommend the collected short stories. So many answers... Audiobooks are great btw.
"Remember the Cant" is my favourite of the XRays. That simple tender moment between Monica and Holden is so nice, and the rest of it makes you reflect on all the things our crew have gone through.
Little fun tidbit: The belter Avasarala had on hooks in 1x1 was interogated about martian stealth tech. Marco's plan to throw stealth rocks at earth was already in motion in the first episode of the series.
@@markusp.6725 nah, Mao was so weathly, he could afford to build his own. I think it is mentioned at some point that Earth would use stealth tech if they could afford it. Instead, they are still putting sticking plasters and gaffer tape on old ships like the Agatha King. Mao would not need a belter to be strealing or dealing on his behalf with Mars.
@@funnylilgalreacts I did my part, I was able to snag the very last Protogen package! I wanted the Rocinante package but was too late! But I feel fortunate to get what I got!
Season 1, episode 1. Holden, Naomi and Amos in an elevator on the Cant. Naomi says "I'd love to hear the story how that happened" while talking about how Holden got hired onto the Cant. Love how that episode echoes all the way through the series. The writers had the shape of this story from the start.
Drummer and Avasarala had so few scenes because those two together is simply too much awesome for modern recording equipment to handle. They're so fucking cool! Drummer is without a doubt my favorite character in this series and Cara Gee just crushes the role.
“F**k you, you self-righteous s**t.” Oh that hits in the feels. I’ve seen a couple people talk about Drummer’s affection for Naomi. Really the Expanse does what it does so well in telling an uncommon story. They both clearly love each other, but it may or may not be a physical relationship. Drummer’s entire “family” is about people who share an intimate bond and, frankly, sexual fluidity… without ever drawing hard lines around it. One of my favorite things about The Expanse has been the way it depicts “queer” relationships by just letting them exist. In the first few episodes we get a gay couple (the Martian ambassador) but it’s just _there_. No one tries to put too fine a point on it….which is _exactly_ how it should be (and what as a queer person myself wants to see). In the universe of the Expanse, gay, straight, bi, poly are just people… which is amazing.
I definitely think that I have more insight than some of the straight people who are commenting on the relationship. I’ve had romantic relationships and I’ve had best friend relationships. My best friend relationships are hell of a lot stronger than those romantic ones ever were. I think the assumption is that because Drummer is poly any love that she shows another female must be romantic. I have heard that Cara Gee has said that Drummer is in love with Naomi but I don’t think that that’s the way it was written. I just think that’s the way she wanted it to be.
@@funnylilgalreacts 💯 I totally get it. Even being in the gay world it’s often hard for people to accept having close friends that are literally “just friends.” Personally I think part of it is that people are just so unaccustomed to non-traditional/poly relationships that it’s hard to grasp people can be close without it being sexual.
@funnylilgalreacts Fellow queer here. You can be best friends even with a one-sided physical or romantic attraction if both people respect the other's boundaries, which we see Drummer and Naomi both do. I think you're right that it wasn't written that way, at least not initially, but that Cara and Dominique played it that way, and it became canonical over seasons 5 and 6. If Drummer didn't have romantic feelings for Naomi, she easily could have diffused the jealousy that Oksana and Michio felt towards Naomi by saying so. I think Drummer's silence on it is telling. But it's up to interpretation, and them being besties certainly doesn't diminish their relationship in any way. But Naomi does ask more of Dummer than Drummer asks of Naomi, including in this episode, and I think it's okay to recognize that relative imbalance in their relationship even while recognizing their deep friendship, platonic love, and unbreakable bond. Oksana and Michio were wrong to be jealous of Drummer's affection for Naomi, but weren't wrong about the lengths Drummer is willing to go for Naomi. And its complicated by the fact that Drummer always did the right thing, in letting Naomi leave the Behemoth to rescue the Roci crew in the slow zone, in preparing to sacrifice her life on the Behemoth to kill Diogo and save Naomi, and in siding with the Roci over the Free Navy, despite losing Serge as a result.
@@XeonAlpha Romantic love doesn't have to be sexual, and obviously unrequited romantic love is not sexual. In season 3 it was pretty clear from Drummer's remarks to and about Holden that she saw Holden as an impediment to her desired relationship with Naomi.
Unrequited love is a bitch. Cara Gee did an outstanding job acting during this scene. As someone who has been on the wrong side of unrequited love she portrayed the frustration and pain in the most realistic manner.
a couple years ago someone gifted me a cameo from Anna Hopkins with a delightful message about teaching my toddler to love space. (she accidentally let slip that season 6 was going to be the last season before it was officially announced, oops)
just occured to me that the thing with Holden disarming the torpedo is kind of like the thing he did in the very first episode of the show "That distress call we never received.... it was logged with HQ. By some anonymous, piece-of-shit do-gooder aboard this ship!"
Be honest. When you think back to everyone's enthusiasm and saying 'Just get to episode 4' did you truly appreciate exactly what you were getting yourself into =). Did you think perhaps everyone was being a tad hyperbolic and that it couldn't possibly be what they were saying? =)
Can't believe there's only 1 more episode to go. Such an amazing show. I hope you make it to some other great series out there, like The Witcher, Altered Carbon, Spartacus: Blood and Sand, Battlestar Galactica, Fringe, Game of Thrones, etc. I've really enjoyed your reaction to The Expanse. Reactions like yours give us a small taste of what it's like to watch something this great for the first time again. Thank you for that.
@@steriopticon2687 without saying anything about leviathan falls and spoiling ppl here, how did you like the "ending"? wasn't my cup of tea tbh, it's a decent adaptation on the whole though.
@@steriopticon2687 oh well, we won't see for a long time anyways, since the show is currently on ice. they said it's just a pause, not a cancellation, but either might be true since the format of the last aired season was weird, but then again the story invokes another time jump in regards to the laconia arc. so sad that you can't black out stuff like on reddit.
Tadeo was kind of sad but then he confesses to placing the bombs and saying 'I thought we were only killing inners' which kind of takes away from his regret. He didn't care to kill anyone except when it was someone he was close to. 'Leopards ate my face' territory.
Yet, I think it does also hammer home the point and dawning realisation in Filip if not perhaps Tedeo that we're *all* people, no matter which "side" you are on
A minor thing, but I really like the title of the episode, "Why We Fight". I feel like it's a direct reference to US propaganda films during WW2 made to convince the American soldiers and public as to why they're fighting in the war at all, and why they should be allies with the rest of the United Nations and whatnot. "... and to become an ally of the Soviet Union." Somewhat of a similar predicament here: Earth and Belt not trusting each other, but coming together and fighting the one enemy which wants to destroy them both. Avasarala and Drummer's handshake like it's the Yalta Conference lmao. Or the meeting on the Elbe. Woohoo!
elias toufexis has a very specific video game role i love (adam jensen) + hes got a very distinctive voice so when i first just heard him on the expanse i just thought, whoa this guy sounds extremely familiar. looked kenzo up, and i KNEW it, it was adam jensen ha
Elias also did the voice of one of my favorite videogame characters Adam Jensen in Deus Ex the newer games, not sure if he was the actor involved in the first game as well.
"Where does he get it from?" That was entirely a dig at Marco's ego. She could have said, "he must get it from you" and chose not to. She's implying that Naomi is a better leader than Marco ever could be.
Drummer still loves Naomi. Naomi says "that all we can do now is to stand by the people that we love." Drummer still wants to get over Naomi but is convinced by the statement and thats why she is saying 'fuck you'. At least thats my interpretation
Such a great episode with so many important lines, not only for or within the Expanse, but overall. And your reactions are always on point, entertaining and emotional. Please keep that up!
I still miss these characters like I miss family or friends. And yeah I was so worried back then. It's been quite the journey Angela. I'm glad this show is still getting love.
Thank you for another delightful reaction, Miss Funnylilgal. I've been putting this off for days. That gave me the excuse to revisit season 6 to this point, plus last season't finale. It is Tough to let these characters go. Loved seeing Drummer finally meet Chrisjen, and Bobbie and Amos finally hook up (maybe?). Thanks for sharing the X-ray, and the cool Cameo -- Elias looks like a fine person, and quite the fan. Take care.
I think it's a real testament to the show that they didn't go with Holden and Marco standing off ready for war to set up the finale, and instead went with two female leaders shaking hands as a gesture of peace. So many, almost *all* other shows would have gone with the former. The Expanse, right up to the finale, I get whelmed just thinking about it
in the previous episode, when that thing comes through the gate, you can see it's labeled RSRG on Marco's screen. Ring Station Rail Gun. there's a whole subplot in the book about the Belters who install these things and how spooky it is that the station's inertia doesn't change when they fire
One of the thing that I love about Amos is how in ways he is narrow minded. Like him talking about leaving the ship because he doesn’t see why he is fighting or why. But he is so open minded that when Bobby said you just need to fight for those you love, he does a complete 180 with nothing more that a huh. Such a good character who has a completely unique way of looking at life that has never been shown before. Most alien species on other shows act more like normal humans than Amos does. Outstanding writing and acting.
I can't believe we're at the end of this show. I was sad when I got to this episode but was in denial about it being over. I was expecting some surprise announcement about season 7, but that never happened. The only real solace I had was that I still had 1 novella to read, since the The Sins of Our Fathers hadn't been released yet. That cameo was awesome. I didn't know Elias had so many roles in video games.
There are some websites that show the order for the books and novellas. Might be a thing to look into before reading them. And having seen just the intro I really want Angela to let us know her thoughts on books 7-9.
My gf and I have been waiting since you started season 6 to get to this episode. We’ve been watching your Expanse reaction together from the beginning, and we know how infatuated you are with Amos (she is too, btw. She told me if he showed up at our door, I would have to pack my things. I feel the same way about Bobby, lol). Anyway, she thought you wouldn’t like it, I felt the opposite. We made a bet, and based on your reaction I just won a bottle of Pinot Grigio! So thanks for a great reaction. I’ll make sure to have a sip for you!
Grigio buddies!!!! I think the moment at the end made everything for me! Seeing those two women together… Truly iconic ! No one turns Amos away. Sorry 🤷♀️
I think Bobbie laughed because it was such a Holden thing to do. There's a reason why James is most often referred to as "James *mf* Holden" by people in the books, said with an air of bewilderment and respect.
Oh, and thank you. This has been the best Expanse reaction I've had to enjoy since back when the Normies were going through it. Your analysis and connection throughout has been a pleasure to vicariously enjoy the show with
I really love what you said. "You need to allow people to change." I have not seen anything from Ty explaining it explicitly, but that is also true of so much of the series, but make no mistake, the name you won't say (as the imagery it provokes) is juicy and deep with real meaning, not only for her but also Amos, the community has been very vocal about putting the pieces together. Briefly, it's not a nickname anymore than Amos's is. If Melba is the chrysalis from which she metamorphosed, this new name (not one she chose, but bestowed on her by her community *such a powerful act*, or clan of two as she has said) is a new beginning. Amos literally had to end his existence (to those on the streets of Baltimore) to become Amos. She also is likely to have multiple standing warrants for multiple, very, bad, things (I don't want my comments to be flagged) and in the eyes of the state she also had to end her existence in that cell in order to become the person she is now. Amos also put his faith in her ability for a second chance even when she didn't believe in her own worthiness. The name may not absolve her actions in a previous life but helps act as a buffer to give her the emotional space to take stock of herself without the baggage weighing down any chance of self growth. Also, Melba, really? Earlier you mentioned liking that name more; why is that a better name? From a culinary aspect, what most often is paired with melba, which is sweet, wholesome, and nourishing? Maybe Amos had someone prepare it for him once, or maybe he just heard it and understood the reference so what she came into his life as Melba, which was her choice, he in his charming and child like way, flips it slightly to make it, fun, affable, if not refreshing to think about. I think we all need someone like Amos in our corner at least once in our lives to give us that push back into the right direction of our lives. He really is amazing, and so is.... Not saying the name (assuming you have read this far) is more of an insult to him and his ability to see humanity in literally anyone on the lowest rung of life. Real quick, Drummer and Naomi are a bit more than besties, or at least were. Speaking of character growth, am I the only person who see's someone in that pair as having next to zero growth in the whole series? More on that next episode.
I love Drummer. Probably since she was shot and then killed the Black Sky dudes that shot her on Tycho. Drummer has been groomed to be a leader for the Belt with serving under Dawes and Fred. She's picking a way to lead that have pieces of them. She knows how to give a speech with the one last episode and when the Behemoth was about to transit through the Ring. With Fred and Dawes gone, it paves the way for Drummer and a better way for The Belt. I wish great things for Cara Gee. Don't know if you're going to be playing The Expanse game when it comes out, but that has Dummer as the lead character. There's a Kickstarter for a comic called The Expanse: Dragon's Tooth and it's suppose to take place after the events of the TV series. I did have fun with that scene with Bobbie and Amos. I was suprised by her reaction to the news, but I guess she figured the reason he did it was good enough. I'm a little surprised that no reactors have seen the railgun emplacements being built on the Ring Station over the past couple episode opening credits. I was like, "What the hell is that?, at first and then it snapped into place with this episode. I forgot that Monica made one more appearance here in the last X-rayI still want to know why the Cant captain has those cats. Maybe he thought he was bringing something to the frontier to trade, like beads or something to the natives. Maybe its explained in the book. Maybe we weren't meant to know, like what Ade was going to tell Holden. Great Cameo from Xander and Ellias! I felt that the series coming to an end was bittersweet. They had a great run, but for me Season 3 is still my favorite. And I was wanting to see more PM stuff so with it having less attention paid to it, I found that piece missing. The Strange Dog stuff was probably for fans like me.
How are they going to wrap this up? Surprisingly satisfactorily. I was so happy that a show that’s been this great managed to stick the landing at the end 💪💪 Oh, and you’ll need tissues.
God, doesn't matter how many reactions I see, getting to this moment just feels like an emotional rollercoaster! Thank you for giving the show a chance, and I'm so glad you've enjoyed it as much as the rest of us :) And I think you were also right about Drummer and Avasarala's meeting being the perfect moment; I don't think either character could have met before this one - They've both had to change and lose so much to end up at this point, that any meeting before this would never have worked. It's just another testament to the show's brilliant writing and actor's performances to build up to this one perfect moment.
With only one episode to go, it's bittersweet to look back at the show and the amazing character growth of all the characters. When they initially announced that the final season would only have 6 episodes, I got major Game of Thrones vibes that they were going to try and tie up all loose ends by cramming all the rest of the books into those six episodes, which would havenot only ruined the show, but destroyed the enjoyment of the show on re-watch. Instead, the showrunners showed their commitment to the story and the fans with top-notch writing and the actions/decisions that every character makes was hard-earned over the course of the show.
Yes, it would’ve been fun to see Amos and Bobbie “rolling out of a room that they’ve been tussling in”. Possibly a Wade and Vanessa Happy International Women’s Day type of scenario from Deadpool. Bobbie: Back to the ship Tiny Amos: Yes, ma’am Steven is 6’2” and Keon is 5’9”, Holden and Marcos standing nose to nose wasn’t an option. Elias(Almost Amos)was cool in that Cameo video. I’m glad that happened. Good job Xander 👍 That was a tour de force intro and outro! Exemplary!
Ashford, Drummer and Chrisjen in the same room together face to face? I think we'd be risking a space time rupture from the pure level of concentrated bad ass'ery in one spot. Certainly, I doubt many Expanse fans would survive the squee leevels.
Rewatching this I see how well they did this season. This episode is calmer than most action wise, but punches hard on emotions. Love Bobby’s talk with Amos, Drummer and Naomi, And closes with the biggest women in the series ia a head to head… Great react.
Another reaction group, Blind Wave, had what I thought was a very interesting reaction to seeing Avasaralla's outfit. One of them said "That's a Sith outfit!" Obviously, they were very impressed. (th-cam.com/video/fXUTOatl1sg/w-d-xo.html)
Believe it or not the crew of the Rossi isn't seen on Ceres until season 6. Early on the Rossi is a,"stolen Corvette with a dead Mickie in the trunk." So they have to go to Tyco. By the time the Rossi is, almost a legitimate salvage, they are hanging around the ring by Uranus 🤣. Then when they're a legitimate salvage they're in another solar system at Ilus in season 4. They're to busy trying to stay alive in season 5 to go to Ceres. I didn't realize it until just now.
I still hope that, sooner than later, we will have other 3 seasons. The show has a good end, but there are still things (imho) that need a proper closure.
With you…. or WITH you? 😋 Two little lines.. but whoo buddy 😆 (& I love that they leave the answer up to the viewers imagination) 😎 One more to go & Still. So. Many. Questions!! 😬 let’s go! 🚀
Oh my! What a wonderful reaction Angela! There isn't much I can say about this one that you haven't already covered! After I originally watched this episode I also asked myself " How are they going to wrap this up?" I've been disappointed before at series finales and I was concerned. But as always these amazing people who bring this masterpiece to life once again showed me that they know exactly what they are doing! How did I feel after the conclusion? It's been over a year now and I'm still struggling with it! I consume something related to The Expanse every single day! What an awesome cameo! How blessed are you! I've watched many reactors react to the series finally and really connected and enjoyed them...... I think I'm going to have a very difficult time watching yours 😥 It will be bitter sweet... Beltalowda
I was nervous about them sticking the landing so to speak, and not making any mistakes like game of thrones did. Fortunately, despite not continuing to the later books (at least not yet), they stuck the landing very good.
If you're going to read the book series I would love to hear your thoughts on them and the comparison at some point. The inclusion of the laconia "strange dogs" novella is a big reason why I hold out hope for a future tv/movie adaptation of the final 3 books... no idea why you would include it otherwise
Their idea is to make the last 3 books ..thats why they included all the Laconia stuff.. the thing that is in the air now is if they will be able , when and in what format.. they might do miniseries or stream movies instead of seasons for each book
I have really enjoyed going on your "Expanse" journey with you. I've been able to relive so many wonderful moments. I believe you are reading the books and am super excited for you because I know it will be exciting and fulfilling. Oh, and one more thing Peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches
Biggest unsolved question in the expanse is not about “what are those strange dogs„ nor “what killed the ring builders „ Biggest question is did Bobbie come with Amos, no pun intended lol 😂
Yeah, watching season 6 and having book 9 come out around the same time was tough to deal with, I put both off for weeks because I didn't want it to end 😭😭😭
Thank you for taking us on this Journey. I have really enjoyed reliving every episode of this series with you. I'm hoping you'll consider taking on the show "Firefly" next. It seems like a great transition after "The Expanse". Thank you also being so open, sharing your emotions along with the attachments to the characters as the season progressed. The content your channel provides is thought provoking. It's like being able to share and discuss what happened in an episode with a person who brings unique observations and insight. You're rapidly approaching 50K Subs. (Yea!) Maybe Xander could get you a "Hookup" to interview Wes on your channel when you reach that big milestone! That would be a sweet reward for all of us, & even you! :-) I look forward to your future content, Best regards, Mo-
You can be queer and not be in love with somebody… It just doesn’t strike me as that type of relationship. There’s a lot of love there, but I don’t get the feeling it’s anything more than a friendship.
@@funnylilgalreacts Hate to disagree, but Drummer is absolutely pining for Naomi, it’s just that Naomi doesn’t feel the same. It was - and is - a strong friendship, but, as sometimes happens, Drummer developed unrequited feelings for her best friend. Naomi first called and then showed up in person all smiles and happy to see her friend Drummer, but Drummer acted closed-off, because to her it’s incredibly painful. If they were just besties, why would Drummer be so hesitant to see her? Why would it be painful? They didn’t have a falling-out, there’s no bad blood between them. Certainly Naomi’s not in any way being standoffish, it’s just Drummer who’s trying desperately not to get hurt. Naomi says she loves her, and Drummer responds with “fuck you” because that’s twisting the knife as it’s not the same love. Drummer tried to move on, deleting all of her saved messages from Naomi and putting her out of her mind, but then Naomi just shows up again. Naomi, unintentionally and (I hope) unknowingly, breaks Drummer’s heart whenever she shows up. It’s why Drummer fidgets when watching Naomi’s message; Drummer never fidgets. It’s why, back in season 3, when she thought she’d die taking out Diogo, she didn’t quite apologize to Holden for shooting at the Roci, but told him to tell Naomi that she was sorry. In that moment, even Holden realized that Drummer loves Naomi like he does. If you’ve ever found yourself in Drummer’s position of unrequited love, you’ll recognize that Cara Gee plays it to a tee.
Drumme absolutely loves Naomi, as for preferences she doesn't seem bound by any gender. Her family as an example to that. A bunch of people in a relationship. I wonder if Belter-TLC makes a reality show with one of these families.
I think that there are a lot of ways to read these characters--personally I feel similarly, but that doesn't mean there isn't deep and important meaning in another person's interpretation. and we forget that or ignore that at our peril (and our foolishness)
For me, even though i was about to go into the finale, i didn't feel like it was a goodbye to the expanse, because the game had already been announced then. I of course still strongly hope for season 7-9 to be made and hopefully the success of the Kickstarter comic can help boost it. It definitely highlighted once again that it's a strong fanbase that want more from this universe
I'm a bit sad you didn't show your reaction to Holden saying: "We're all the same people." It's really the crux of this X-Ray. That unwavering idealism of non-partisanship that Holden seemingly clashes with the entire universe over, time and again.
The Laconia segment was, indeed, expensive. They actually built that forest and it was so extensive and dense that people got lost in it. Michio is bad at combat action, but remember she hit Karal with enough force to kill the woman through her suit. Michio can do what's necessary for those she loves. I don't know if anyone has mentioned, but the strange dogs look rather like organic versions of the mechanical device that Miller cast himself into. I guess we have to figure that Havelock (in the series), Captain Shadid, and Octavia Muss were executed when the Free Navy took over Ceres.
The quicker you finish The Expanse, the quicker you can start Firefly! Also, I know you started the books. Definitely get through all of those because it will give you an even better perspective on the show. You only know about 2/3 of the story until you read the books. And remember what the Strange Dogs did to Xan, because that comes back in the end in a way you may have feeling about. There's your spoiler warning.
You also really need to read the "Origins" comic book that was written by the authors of the novels, which tells the origin stories of all four crewmembers. The show and the books touch on them, but they don't tell it as clearly as this comic book trade paperback.
Hey there! Love your The Expanse reactions! You have mentioned multiple times your live for Star Trek.. Will there be any reaction to current shows? Or have you seen them already? 😂
KENZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wgat tge fycj! So cool. Kenzo was my favorite character on The Expanse other than for James Holden. And I never got why he was so hated on for being the 'spy'. He was Christjen's spy. And without his help they would never have gotten to donkey balls. It was Kenzo who saved the day. Most people wanted Bobby or Drummer to join the crew but the one person I wished for was Kenzo. The guy was a perfect foil for Amos. And he was a great spy. He had the chops just based on his eye tech alone. But no. They killed him off. Never a call back. Never his props for saving the crew. -I hate life.
It might be the case of a great actor changing the character from the book, but yeah I agree with you. Afterall they did change Drummer character, by erasing both Bull and Michio (book versions) from the story and giving their stories to her. I always feel bad for him when watching reactions, him getting scared off by Holden, and then dying in the final shots of season finale.
Any other pair of writers would have had Filip do a miraculous character turn last season when he cried on his mom’s shoulder, but this is the James S. A. Corey duo so instead we get a realistic character arc for Filip.
You should check out the new Expanse video game that is starring Drummer. It's a TaleTale game so it will be more point and click than any normal action game. It's out soon and there is a trailer online.
Bobbie was so mad because she thought random chance screwed them over. But knowing that Holden disarmed the warhead was so obvious and makes so much more sense that all she can do is laugh at how angry she got about it.
I really thought Drummer and Avasarala shaking hands would explode like matter and anti-mater coming together.
It’s a miracle we’re still alive. Too much awesome in one shot
I also love that Avasaralla's code name is "Archangel". It just doesn't get any more bad-ass.
When I watch the scene where Chrisjen and Drummer meet, I always think about Drummer and Ashford’s conversation in season 3 when they’re trapped after the speed limit change, and Ashford talks about uniforms and the importance of symbols of unity. Ashford would have been so proud of season 6 Drummer.
Avasaralla's dress is supposed to be based off the exposed wiring of a belter ship. Also in the flashback, the belter who crushed the captain's glass cat is the same belter who spaced Prax's friend in season 2.
Ah! Thank you! I knew I recognized him, but couldn't place him.
I love that Drummer only fidgets when it comes to Naomi. Cara Gee is amazing.
And I’m totally on her side in being pissed at Naomi. They’re not besties; Drummer is absolutely, 100% _in love_ with Naomi in a way that Naomi just isn’t. No matter how objectively right Naomi is, it’s gut-wrenching to watch Drummer’s feelings “used against her”. Not that Naomi’s actively trying to torture Drummer, but it is torture all the same 💔
As for Amos and Bobbie, if they’re hooking up, I think Holden would have to ask them to… well, _not_ while on the Roci. It’s only a gunship, it’s not indestructible, and I’d worry about structural damage.
Cara Gee is just astonishingly good. It's funny watching her in interviews, TOTALLY different.
ACTING!
@@wtimmins Yeah, it's crazy how good she was in Expanse. I absolutely understand why they rewrote Drummers character to give Cara a much bigger role in the show.
We needed a scene where Avasarala asks Bobbie “is that glitter?”
What I loved about this x-ray is how Holden was lured into serving on the Cant with the promise of a future of little to no responsibility, which somehow led to all of this. So ironic, which is what makes it so great.
BLAAAAHHHH!!! Camina is simply one of my favorites characters of all time.
This is the episode that moved Drummer to the number one slot. "I wanted builders" the meeting, the interactions with Naomi, Cara Gee is just amazing.
Really glad she is the focus of the upcoming game.
"Let me know if you want your face to look a little different." - Amos clapping Holden on the shoulder in S1. So amazing how far these characters have come. This is a brilliant series. So sad to get to the end.
For the record, a forest was built in the second largest soundstage for the Laconia scenes. There were challenges, to be sure, but it was impressive as a heck.
Also, to accommodate schedules, the season was filmed somewhat out of order, so THAT scene on the revered Tynan was one of the last scenes filmed for the season and the show.
And let me tell you, if there were some eyes which weren't so dry - for many reasons but not the least of which were Cara Gee's performance.
Hot damn, she was so good at being Drummer. She was also even better at being a human to everyone on set. Warmest smile on the whole damn show.
Good luck on your EXPANSE withdrawal phase, Ang.
Tye Franke, co-writer of the book series and one of the writers and producers on the show complimented Elias Toufexis as the only other actor besides Wes Chatham, who truely understood Amos as a character. The other actors who auditioned for the role would for example read lines where Amos is confronting someone as threatening. Elias and Wes understood that Amos in those situations doesn't make threats, he just makes matter of fact statements.
RIP Admiral Kirino, the last Martian patriot. Also seeing Drummer cry always makes me break down. Seeing someone that strong cry just gets to me.
Kirino deserved to go out better.
@@kirkdarling4120 I agree. She seemed to be way out of character from the Kirino we had in season 3.
@@brauliob Not really, she saw a way to end the War faster (and saved more lives) so she took it. That was no different than season 3.
She went into the room too fast.
@@heteroclitus Doors and Corners! Doors and corners.
One of the biggest pitches I give to watch this show is the women, and the roles they play. There aren't many (any?) shows where female characters are the most powerful and important characters in the storyline, without any pretension. This is an incredible tale where women are key players without falling into ANY simple tropes. While Naomi and Holden have a relationship, it is not a stereotype, it is complex and real. Nothing is forced, and the writing doesn't fall into traps that could make this a lot worse.
The showdown with Drummer and Avasarala is epic.
I know you have seen the end.
I hope you weren't disappointed:
I agree 100% but I didn't even realize this until maybe my 3rd or 4th watching. So much for "the Patriarchy" in "media" or whatever the fuck they call it. The books are the same way, generally. The amount of bad-ass women in this show is awesome. And they are all awesome. (Referring to the books) There are only a few real strong male characters, not including people like Dawes or Johnson. Way more bad ass chicks, for the most part. And it came completely naturally to the point (Like I said) I didn't even realize at first. Just like race, gender doesn't matter much. Granted this is a different world and what not but still. I think the biggest point is what you've already pointed out, zero 'simple tropes'. It would be easy to do that but they didn't. Not even in the books. There are so many other women in the books that are excluded for plot/screentime/etc reasons.
I love how Avasarala has found an outfit from her wardrobe that is suitability grungy to be pseudo-belter and yet still reeks of haute couture
Well Cara and Xan in the books have quite a role. They are good kids :)
Nice cameo! Good job, Xander!
I’ve played entirely too much Deus Ex (especially the newer ones), so every time I hear Elias Toufexis’ voice in any other context (including him as Kenzo in the show) it takes me minutes to shake the confusion 😂 Not at all complaining; this is a struggle of my own making. But I’d listen to him and Shoreh Aghdashloo discuss anything and everything.
That handshake! Chills. I remember when I watched this episode for the first time - as it ended on that handshake I could not help saying “holy shit” out loud. This time through I knew it was coming and it still hit me almost as hard. Overall, I ended the episode similarly to Angela: (1) the emotional gut punch of the conversation between Drummer and Naomi, (2) “damn, Avasarala looks amazing”, (3) chills at the handshake.
As a side note, whoever designed Avasarala’s outfits deserves an award.
I swear it seemed like it took forever for Drummer to decide if she was going to shake her hand the first time I watched it. 😂
Did you miss that michio was the ships trained dr?
"So different from the Holden we know now." - Having been raised to be this Holden, mother Elise telling him to get away. I think he was always the Holden we know now, but he was trying to run away from himself.
The story is far from over. Laconia stuff, including the kids is coming in hot. :-D
Even when not continuing with the books I can only strongly recommend the collected short stories.
So many answers...
Audiobooks are great btw.
"Remember the Cant" is my favourite of the XRays. That simple tender moment between Monica and Holden is so nice, and the rest of it makes you reflect on all the things our crew have gone through.
Little fun tidbit: The belter Avasarala had on hooks in 1x1 was interogated about martian stealth tech. Marco's plan to throw stealth rocks at earth was already in motion in the first episode of the series.
Is that confirmed?
I always assumed the stealth tech they were talking about was for Maos stealth warships.
@@markusp.6725 nah, Mao was so weathly, he could afford to build his own. I think it is mentioned at some point that Earth would use stealth tech if they could afford it. Instead, they are still putting sticking plasters and gaffer tape on old ships like the Agatha King. Mao would not need a belter to be strealing or dealing on his behalf with Mars.
Monica on the railing filming one of the most important moment in Belter / Earther history... Sure know how to get good scoops !
I do hope that the massive response to the Dragon Tooth Kickstarter will encourage development of S7-9
I think it’s getting attention, for sure. We need Ty and Wes to rally the troops!
@@funnylilgalreacts I did my part, I was able to snag the very last Protogen package! I wanted the Rocinante package but was too late! But I feel fortunate to get what I got!
Season 1, episode 1. Holden, Naomi and Amos in an elevator on the Cant. Naomi says "I'd love to hear the story how that happened" while talking about how Holden got hired onto the Cant.
Love how that episode echoes all the way through the series. The writers had the shape of this story from the start.
Drummer and Avasarala had so few scenes because those two together is simply too much awesome for modern recording equipment to handle. They're so fucking cool! Drummer is without a doubt my favorite character in this series and Cara Gee just crushes the role.
“F**k you, you self-righteous s**t.” Oh that hits in the feels.
I’ve seen a couple people talk about Drummer’s affection for Naomi. Really the Expanse does what it does so well in telling an uncommon story. They both clearly love each other, but it may or may not be a physical relationship. Drummer’s entire “family” is about people who share an intimate bond and, frankly, sexual fluidity… without ever drawing hard lines around it.
One of my favorite things about The Expanse has been the way it depicts “queer” relationships by just letting them exist. In the first few episodes we get a gay couple (the Martian ambassador) but it’s just _there_. No one tries to put too fine a point on it….which is _exactly_ how it should be (and what as a queer person myself wants to see).
In the universe of the Expanse, gay, straight, bi, poly are just people… which is amazing.
I definitely think that I have more insight than some of the straight people who are commenting on the relationship. I’ve had romantic relationships and I’ve had best friend relationships. My best friend relationships are hell of a lot stronger than those romantic ones ever were. I think the assumption is that because Drummer is poly any love that she shows another female must be romantic. I have heard that Cara Gee has said that Drummer is in love with Naomi but I don’t think that that’s the way it was written. I just think that’s the way she wanted it to be.
@@funnylilgalreacts 💯
I totally get it. Even being in the gay world it’s often hard for people to accept having close friends that are literally “just friends.”
Personally I think part of it is that people are just so unaccustomed to non-traditional/poly relationships that it’s hard to grasp people can be close without it being sexual.
@funnylilgalreacts Fellow queer here. You can be best friends even with a one-sided physical or romantic attraction if both people respect the other's boundaries, which we see Drummer and Naomi both do. I think you're right that it wasn't written that way, at least not initially, but that Cara and Dominique played it that way, and it became canonical over seasons 5 and 6. If Drummer didn't have romantic feelings for Naomi, she easily could have diffused the jealousy that Oksana and Michio felt towards Naomi by saying so. I think Drummer's silence on it is telling. But it's up to interpretation, and them being besties certainly doesn't diminish their relationship in any way.
But Naomi does ask more of Dummer than Drummer asks of Naomi, including in this episode, and I think it's okay to recognize that relative imbalance in their relationship even while recognizing their deep friendship, platonic love, and unbreakable bond.
Oksana and Michio were wrong to be jealous of Drummer's affection for Naomi, but weren't wrong about the lengths Drummer is willing to go for Naomi. And its complicated by the fact that Drummer always did the right thing, in letting Naomi leave the Behemoth to rescue the Roci crew in the slow zone, in preparing to sacrifice her life on the Behemoth to kill Diogo and save Naomi, and in siding with the Roci over the Free Navy, despite losing Serge as a result.
@@XeonAlpha Romantic love doesn't have to be sexual, and obviously unrequited romantic love is not sexual.
In season 3 it was pretty clear from Drummer's remarks to and about Holden that she saw Holden as an impediment to her desired relationship with Naomi.
Unrequited love is a bitch. Cara Gee did an outstanding job acting during this scene. As someone who has been on the wrong side of unrequited love she portrayed the frustration and pain in the most realistic manner.
a couple years ago someone gifted me a cameo from Anna Hopkins with a delightful message about teaching my toddler to love space. (she accidentally let slip that season 6 was going to be the last season before it was officially announced, oops)
Phillip standing up for Marco was more about him trying to convince himself
just occured to me that the thing with Holden disarming the torpedo is kind of like the thing he did in the very first episode of the show "That distress call we never received.... it was logged with HQ. By some anonymous, piece-of-shit do-gooder aboard this ship!"
The XRay this week is one of my favourites - even baby Holden is bringing people together and able to relate with everyone
I like the parallel with what Bobbie told Amos and what Naomi told Drummer.
Just fight for the ones you love. Don’t make it complicated.
Be honest. When you think back to everyone's enthusiasm and saying 'Just get to episode 4' did you truly appreciate exactly what you were getting yourself into =). Did you think perhaps everyone was being a tad hyperbolic and that it couldn't possibly be what they were saying? =)
Can't believe there's only 1 more episode to go. Such an amazing show. I hope you make it to some other great series out there, like The Witcher, Altered Carbon, Spartacus: Blood and Sand, Battlestar Galactica, Fringe, Game of Thrones, etc. I've really enjoyed your reaction to The Expanse. Reactions like yours give us a small taste of what it's like to watch something this great for the first time again. Thank you for that.
You definitely have to read the books right away! You’ll have a great look into the minds of our favourite characters
Not to mention 3 books of more story! Tiamat's Wrath is my favourite book of all time.
I just finished re-reading all 9 books. Definitely should be done! Plus admiring how they adapted the books to the show is something I really love.
@@steriopticon2687 without saying anything about leviathan falls and spoiling ppl here, how did you like the "ending"? wasn't my cup of tea tbh, it's a decent adaptation on the whole though.
@@danii7584 I loved the ending, and I'm sure FLG will, too.
@@steriopticon2687 oh well, we won't see for a long time anyways, since the show is currently on ice.
they said it's just a pause, not a cancellation, but either might be true since the format of the last aired season was weird, but then again the story invokes another time jump in regards to the laconia arc.
so sad that you can't black out stuff like on reddit.
Tadeo was kind of sad but then he confesses to placing the bombs and saying 'I thought we were only killing inners' which kind of takes away from his regret. He didn't care to kill anyone except when it was someone he was close to. 'Leopards ate my face' territory.
Yet, I think it does also hammer home the point and dawning realisation in Filip if not perhaps Tedeo that we're *all* people, no matter which "side" you are on
A minor thing, but I really like the title of the episode, "Why We Fight". I feel like it's a direct reference to US propaganda films during WW2 made to convince the American soldiers and public as to why they're fighting in the war at all, and why they should be allies with the rest of the United Nations and whatnot. "... and to become an ally of the Soviet Union."
Somewhat of a similar predicament here: Earth and Belt not trusting each other, but coming together and fighting the one enemy which wants to destroy them both.
Avasarala and Drummer's handshake like it's the Yalta Conference lmao. Or the meeting on the Elbe. Woohoo!
elias toufexis has a very specific video game role i love (adam jensen) + hes got a very distinctive voice so when i first just heard him on the expanse i just thought, whoa this guy sounds extremely familiar. looked kenzo up, and i KNEW it, it was adam jensen ha
Elias also did the voice of one of my favorite videogame characters Adam Jensen in Deus Ex the newer games, not sure if he was the actor involved in the first game as well.
"Where does he get it from?" That was entirely a dig at Marco's ego.
She could have said, "he must get it from you" and chose not to. She's implying that Naomi is a better leader than Marco ever could be.
Drummer still loves Naomi. Naomi says "that all we can do now is to stand by the people that we love." Drummer still wants to get over Naomi but is convinced by the statement and thats why she is saying 'fuck you'. At least thats my interpretation
Philip didn't know that Holden disarmed the torpedo. For all he knew, his mother disarmed it.
Exactly! He knows someone on that ship cared…
Such a great episode with so many important lines, not only for or within the Expanse, but overall.
And your reactions are always on point, entertaining and emotional. Please keep that up!
Elias is also a big voice actor in video games as he mentioned. If you've ever played the new Deus Ex games, he voices the protagonist.
I still miss these characters like I miss family or friends. And yeah I was so worried back then. It's been quite the journey Angela. I'm glad this show is still getting love.
Thank you for another delightful reaction, Miss Funnylilgal. I've been putting this off for days. That gave me the excuse to
revisit season 6 to this point, plus last season't finale. It is Tough to let these characters go.
Loved seeing Drummer finally meet Chrisjen, and Bobbie and Amos finally hook up (maybe?).
Thanks for sharing the X-ray, and the cool Cameo -- Elias looks like a fine person, and quite the fan. Take care.
I think it's a real testament to the show that they didn't go with Holden and Marco standing off ready for war to set up the finale, and instead went with two female leaders shaking hands as a gesture of peace. So many, almost *all* other shows would have gone with the former. The Expanse, right up to the finale, I get whelmed just thinking about it
Ah yes, the handshake heard round the world
in the previous episode, when that thing comes through the gate, you can see it's labeled RSRG on Marco's screen. Ring Station Rail Gun. there's a whole subplot in the book about the Belters who install these things and how spooky it is that the station's inertia doesn't change when they fire
That cameo was so freaking cool 🙂
Given how this season started off, it was nice to have proof that she hadn't mysteriously died off-screen. Same with Prax.
@@kerouac.jackson True that 🤣
One of the thing that I love about Amos is how in ways he is narrow minded. Like him talking about leaving the ship because he doesn’t see why he is fighting or why. But he is so open minded that when Bobby said you just need to fight for those you love, he does a complete 180 with nothing more that a huh. Such a good character who has a completely unique way of looking at life that has never been shown before. Most alien species on other shows act more like normal humans than Amos does. Outstanding writing and acting.
The acting in this show is off the chain, just so good all round
I can't believe we're at the end of this show. I was sad when I got to this episode but was in denial about it being over. I was expecting some surprise announcement about season 7, but that never happened. The only real solace I had was that I still had 1 novella to read, since the The Sins of Our Fathers hadn't been released yet.
That cameo was awesome. I didn't know Elias had so many roles in video games.
There are some websites that show the order for the books and novellas. Might be a thing to look into before reading them. And having seen just the intro I really want Angela to let us know her thoughts on books 7-9.
My gf and I have been waiting since you started season 6 to get to this episode. We’ve been watching your Expanse reaction together from the beginning, and we know how infatuated you are with Amos (she is too, btw. She told me if he showed up at our door, I would have to pack my things. I feel the same way about Bobby, lol). Anyway, she thought you wouldn’t like it, I felt the opposite. We made a bet, and based on your reaction I just won a bottle of Pinot Grigio! So thanks for a great reaction. I’ll make sure to have a sip for you!
Grigio buddies!!!!
I think the moment at the end made everything for me! Seeing those two women together… Truly iconic !
No one turns Amos away. Sorry 🤷♀️
I think Bobbie laughed because it was such a Holden thing to do. There's a reason why James is most often referred to as "James *mf* Holden" by people in the books, said with an air of bewilderment and respect.
Oh, and thank you. This has been the best Expanse reaction I've had to enjoy since back when the Normies were going through it. Your analysis and connection throughout has been a pleasure to vicariously enjoy the show with
I really love what you said. "You need to allow people to change."
I have not seen anything from Ty explaining it explicitly, but that is also true of so much of the series, but make no mistake, the name you won't say (as the imagery it provokes) is juicy and deep with real meaning, not only for her but also Amos, the community has been very vocal about putting the pieces together. Briefly, it's not a nickname anymore than Amos's is. If Melba is the chrysalis from which she metamorphosed, this new name (not one she chose, but bestowed on her by her community *such a powerful act*, or clan of two as she has said) is a new beginning.
Amos literally had to end his existence (to those on the streets of Baltimore) to become Amos. She also is likely to have multiple standing warrants for multiple, very, bad, things (I don't want my comments to be flagged) and in the eyes of the state she also had to end her existence in that cell in order to become the person she is now. Amos also put his faith in her ability for a second chance even when she didn't believe in her own worthiness. The name may not absolve her actions in a previous life but helps act as a buffer to give her the emotional space to take stock of herself without the baggage weighing down any chance of self growth.
Also, Melba, really? Earlier you mentioned liking that name more; why is that a better name? From a culinary aspect, what most often is paired with melba, which is sweet, wholesome, and nourishing? Maybe Amos had someone prepare it for him once, or maybe he just heard it and understood the reference so what she came into his life as Melba, which was her choice, he in his charming and child like way, flips it slightly to make it, fun, affable, if not refreshing to think about. I think we all need someone like Amos in our corner at least once in our lives to give us that push back into the right direction of our lives. He really is amazing, and so is.... Not saying the name (assuming you have read this far) is more of an insult to him and his ability to see humanity in literally anyone on the lowest rung of life.
Real quick, Drummer and Naomi are a bit more than besties, or at least were. Speaking of character growth, am I the only person who see's someone in that pair as having next to zero growth in the whole series? More on that next episode.
IMO Naomi is well aware of how deeply Drummer loves her. Naomi knowingly abuses that love, knowing that Drummer cannot tell her "no."
This is definitely in the top 5 episodes for me, the actresses on this show are amazing
I love Drummer. Probably since she was shot and then killed the Black Sky dudes that shot her on Tycho. Drummer has been groomed to be a leader for the Belt with serving under Dawes and Fred. She's picking a way to lead that have pieces of them. She knows how to give a speech with the one last episode and when the Behemoth was about to transit through the Ring. With Fred and Dawes gone, it paves the way for Drummer and a better way for The Belt. I wish great things for Cara Gee. Don't know if you're going to be playing The Expanse game when it comes out, but that has Dummer as the lead character.
There's a Kickstarter for a comic called The Expanse: Dragon's Tooth and it's suppose to take place after the events of the TV series.
I did have fun with that scene with Bobbie and Amos. I was suprised by her reaction to the news, but I guess she figured the reason he did it was good enough.
I'm a little surprised that no reactors have seen the railgun emplacements being built on the Ring Station over the past couple episode opening credits. I was like, "What the hell is that?, at first and then it snapped into place with this episode.
I forgot that Monica made one more appearance here in the last X-rayI still want to know why the Cant captain has those cats. Maybe he thought he was bringing something to the frontier to trade, like beads or something to the natives. Maybe its explained in the book. Maybe we weren't meant to know, like what Ade was going to tell Holden.
Great Cameo from Xander and Ellias!
I felt that the series coming to an end was bittersweet. They had a great run, but for me Season 3 is still my favorite. And I was wanting to see more PM stuff so with it having less attention paid to it, I found that piece missing. The Strange Dog stuff was probably for fans like me.
How are they going to wrap this up?
Surprisingly satisfactorily. I was so happy that a show that’s been this great managed to stick the landing at the end 💪💪
Oh, and you’ll need tissues.
God, doesn't matter how many reactions I see, getting to this moment just feels like an emotional rollercoaster! Thank you for giving the show a chance, and I'm so glad you've enjoyed it as much as the rest of us :)
And I think you were also right about Drummer and Avasarala's meeting being the perfect moment; I don't think either character could have met before this one - They've both had to change and lose so much to end up at this point, that any meeting before this would never have worked. It's just another testament to the show's brilliant writing and actor's performances to build up to this one perfect moment.
How does it get wrapped up? With a big fucking bow and a cherry on top:)
With only one episode to go, it's bittersweet to look back at the show and the amazing character growth of all the characters. When they initially announced that the final season would only have 6 episodes, I got major Game of Thrones vibes that they were going to try and tie up all loose ends by cramming all the rest of the books into those six episodes, which would havenot only ruined the show, but destroyed the enjoyment of the show on re-watch. Instead, the showrunners showed their commitment to the story and the fans with top-notch writing and the actions/decisions that every character makes was hard-earned over the course of the show.
Fillip was not humiliated by his demotion from Marco because he is actually a humble person and in many ways more like his mother than his father.
Between the TV Show, the Books..the Novellas, the Kickstarter and the Game that is coming the whole universe of The Expanse is a fun place to be
Yes, it would’ve been fun to see Amos and Bobbie “rolling out of a room that they’ve been tussling in”. Possibly a Wade and Vanessa Happy International Women’s Day type of scenario from Deadpool.
Bobbie: Back to the ship Tiny
Amos: Yes, ma’am
Steven is 6’2” and Keon is 5’9”, Holden and Marcos standing nose to nose wasn’t an option.
Elias(Almost Amos)was cool in that Cameo video. I’m glad that happened. Good job Xander 👍
That was a tour de force intro and outro! Exemplary!
Ashford, Drummer and Chrisjen in the same room together face to face? I think we'd be risking a space time rupture from the pure level of concentrated bad ass'ery in one spot. Certainly, I doubt many Expanse fans would survive the squee leevels.
Rewatching this I see how well they did this season. This episode is calmer than most action wise, but punches hard on emotions. Love Bobby’s talk with Amos, Drummer and Naomi, And closes with the biggest women in the series ia a head to head… Great react.
Another reaction group, Blind Wave, had what I thought was a very interesting reaction to seeing Avasaralla's outfit. One of them said "That's a Sith outfit!" Obviously, they were very impressed. (th-cam.com/video/fXUTOatl1sg/w-d-xo.html)
I love that 😂
Hearst! Because you only have nearly 50k subscribers I somehow always end up here. Love your reactions FLG.
Believe it or not the crew of the Rossi isn't seen on Ceres until season 6. Early on the Rossi is a,"stolen Corvette with a dead Mickie in the trunk." So they have to go to Tyco. By the time the Rossi is, almost a legitimate salvage, they are hanging around the ring by Uranus 🤣. Then when they're a legitimate salvage they're in another solar system at Ilus in season 4. They're to busy trying to stay alive in season 5 to go to Ceres. I didn't realize it until just now.
I kept hoping and hoping that a press release would come out announcing a new agreement for new seasons as I dreaded the last episode. 😭😭😭
I still hope that, sooner than later, we will have other 3 seasons. The show has a good end, but there are still things (imho) that need a proper closure.
With you…. or WITH you? 😋
Two little lines.. but whoo buddy 😆
(& I love that they leave the answer up to the viewers imagination) 😎
One more to go & Still. So. Many. Questions!! 😬 let’s go! 🚀
The dog like creature on Laconia is similar to the mechanical creature that Miller was on Ilus.
the last 20 minutes of this episode is possibly my favorite of the entire series. absolutely love camina drummer
Chrisjen was giving off strong big cat vibes in that last scene. I've got feelings.
Oh my! What a wonderful reaction Angela!
There isn't much I can say about this one that you haven't already covered!
After I originally watched this episode I also asked myself " How are they going to wrap this up?" I've been disappointed before at series finales and I was concerned. But as always these amazing people who bring this masterpiece to life once again showed me that they know exactly what they are doing! How did I feel after the conclusion? It's been over a year now and I'm still struggling with it! I consume something related to The Expanse every single day!
What an awesome cameo! How blessed are you!
I've watched many reactors react to the series finally and really connected and enjoyed them...... I think I'm going to have a very difficult time watching yours 😥
It will be bitter sweet... Beltalowda
I was nervous about them sticking the landing so to speak, and not making any mistakes like game of thrones did. Fortunately, despite not continuing to the later books (at least not yet), they stuck the landing very good.
If you're going to read the book series I would love to hear your thoughts on them and the comparison at some point.
The inclusion of the laconia "strange dogs" novella is a big reason why I hold out hope for a future tv/movie adaptation of the final 3 books... no idea why you would include it otherwise
Their idea is to make the last 3 books ..thats why they included all the Laconia stuff.. the thing that is in the air now is if they will be able , when and in what format.. they might do miniseries or stream movies instead of seasons for each book
I have really enjoyed going on your "Expanse" journey with you. I've been able to relive so many wonderful moments.
I believe you are reading the books and am super excited for you because I know it will be exciting and fulfilling.
Oh, and one more thing
Peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches
😂😂
Once you finish doing Firefly, you NEED to do The Orville. Chad Coleman aka Fred Johnson is in it. Not recognizable at all. That or Star Trek
Biggest unsolved question in the expanse is not about “what are those strange dogs„ nor “what killed the ring builders „
Biggest question is did Bobbie come with Amos, no pun intended lol 😂
Yeah, watching season 6 and having book 9 come out around the same time was tough to deal with, I put both off for weeks because I didn't want it to end 😭😭😭
Thank you for taking us on this Journey.
I have really enjoyed reliving every episode of this series with you. I'm hoping you'll consider taking on the show "Firefly" next. It seems like a great transition after "The Expanse".
Thank you also being so open, sharing your emotions along with the attachments to the characters as the season progressed. The content your channel provides is thought provoking. It's like being able to share and discuss what happened in an episode with a person who brings unique observations and insight.
You're rapidly approaching 50K Subs. (Yea!) Maybe Xander could get you a "Hookup" to interview Wes on your channel when you reach that big milestone! That would be a sweet reward for all of us, & even you! :-)
I look forward to your future content,
Best regards,
Mo-
Drummer is a queer woman who is completely in love with Naomi.
You can be queer and not be in love with somebody… It just doesn’t strike me as that type of relationship. There’s a lot of love there, but I don’t get the feeling it’s anything more than a friendship.
@@funnylilgalreacts Hate to disagree, but Drummer is absolutely pining for Naomi, it’s just that Naomi doesn’t feel the same. It was - and is - a strong friendship, but, as sometimes happens, Drummer developed unrequited feelings for her best friend. Naomi first called and then showed up in person all smiles and happy to see her friend Drummer, but Drummer acted closed-off, because to her it’s incredibly painful. If they were just besties, why would Drummer be so hesitant to see her? Why would it be painful? They didn’t have a falling-out, there’s no bad blood between them. Certainly Naomi’s not in any way being standoffish, it’s just Drummer who’s trying desperately not to get hurt. Naomi says she loves her, and Drummer responds with “fuck you” because that’s twisting the knife as it’s not the same love. Drummer tried to move on, deleting all of her saved messages from Naomi and putting her out of her mind, but then Naomi just shows up again. Naomi, unintentionally and (I hope) unknowingly, breaks Drummer’s heart whenever she shows up. It’s why Drummer fidgets when watching Naomi’s message; Drummer never fidgets. It’s why, back in season 3, when she thought she’d die taking out Diogo, she didn’t quite apologize to Holden for shooting at the Roci, but told him to tell Naomi that she was sorry. In that moment, even Holden realized that Drummer loves Naomi like he does.
If you’ve ever found yourself in Drummer’s position of unrequited love, you’ll recognize that Cara Gee plays it to a tee.
Drumme absolutely loves Naomi, as for preferences she doesn't seem bound by any gender. Her family as an example to that. A bunch of people in a relationship. I wonder if Belter-TLC makes a reality show with one of these families.
@furyxan Drummer is bi.
I think that there are a lot of ways to read these characters--personally I feel similarly, but that doesn't mean there isn't deep and important meaning in another person's interpretation. and we forget that or ignore that at our peril (and our foolishness)
For me, even though i was about to go into the finale, i didn't feel like it was a goodbye to the expanse, because the game had already been announced then.
I of course still strongly hope for season 7-9 to be made and hopefully the success of the Kickstarter comic can help boost it. It definitely highlighted once again that it's a strong fanbase that want more from this universe
I remember thinking after this episode that there was no way they could wrap this up in just one more episode..
Love this episode!
Second time through is almost as good as the first. Now you can pick up all the hints and foreshadowing, and lots of details you missed before.
I'm a bit sad you didn't show your reaction to Holden saying: "We're all the same people." It's really the crux of this X-Ray. That unwavering idealism of non-partisanship that Holden seemingly clashes with the entire universe over, time and again.
The Laconia segment was, indeed, expensive. They actually built that forest and it was so extensive and dense that people got lost in it.
Michio is bad at combat action, but remember she hit Karal with enough force to kill the woman through her suit. Michio can do what's necessary for those she loves.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned, but the strange dogs look rather like organic versions of the mechanical device that Miller cast himself into.
I guess we have to figure that Havelock (in the series), Captain Shadid, and Octavia Muss were executed when the Free Navy took over Ceres.
The quicker you finish The Expanse, the quicker you can start Firefly!
Also, I know you started the books. Definitely get through all of those because it will give you an even better perspective on the show. You only know about 2/3 of the story until you read the books. And remember what the Strange Dogs did to Xan, because that comes back in the end in a way you may have feeling about. There's your spoiler warning.
You also really need to read the "Origins" comic book that was written by the authors of the novels, which tells the origin stories of all four crewmembers. The show and the books touch on them, but they don't tell it as clearly as this comic book trade paperback.
So excited for the game.
Hey there! Love your The Expanse reactions!
You have mentioned multiple times your live for Star Trek.. Will there be any reaction to current shows? Or have you seen them already? 😂
KENZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wgat tge fycj! So cool. Kenzo was my favorite character on The Expanse other than for James Holden. And I never got why he was so hated on for being the 'spy'. He was Christjen's spy. And without his help they would never have gotten to donkey balls. It was Kenzo who saved the day. Most people wanted Bobby or Drummer to join the crew but the one person I wished for was Kenzo. The guy was a perfect foil for Amos. And he was a great spy. He had the chops just based on his eye tech alone. But no. They killed him off. Never a call back. Never his props for saving the crew.
-I hate life.
It might be the case of a great actor changing the character from the book, but yeah I agree with you. Afterall they did change Drummer character, by erasing both Bull and Michio (book versions) from the story and giving their stories to her.
I always feel bad for him when watching reactions, him getting scared off by Holden, and then dying in the final shots of season finale.
Any other pair of writers would have had Filip do a miraculous character turn last season when he cried on his mom’s shoulder, but this is the James S. A. Corey duo so instead we get a realistic character arc for Filip.
You should check out the new Expanse video game that is starring Drummer. It's a TaleTale game so it will be more point and click than any normal action game. It's out soon and there is a trailer online.
That whole Strange Dogs thing and Laconia mean nothing if there are no more seasons. A side trip with no payback.
34:36 Gets rushed, that’s how.