I'm sure that I remember Mahe stating that he would listen, represent, and act on behalf of the ratepayers of Tauranga. That must be a world record. What was it, four weeks ago?
..just another step towards co-governance based on the falsehood that 'Maori' didn' t give up self-determination in 1840.. Today, this is an attack on the equality of citizenship which needs to be resisted..
I wrote to Mahe and the councillors before the council meeting and informed them of my objection to this raced based proposal, and how unacceptable the proposal is in terms of democracy for all New Zealanders. They have thus been informed and reminded in advance of where they are heading with this proposal.
Hamilton is another disgraceful woke inception by Southgate and 90% of the councilors. Wasting our rates on non elected people, who actually hold sway over many many council decisions....grrrr....shameful.
It goes smoother when iwi are involved because they make it difficult if they aren't given direct access to decision making even though they can use the same channels every individual does.. We should be cracking down on bullying tactics not caving to them.
This clearly puts a thumb on the scale regarding all council decisions... Apartheid in action. ("Not appointed to Council" (but are still on the committees and still have an influence) is an obfuscation - we are not fooled.)
@@chriskiwi2601 he is certainly out of his depth and as per usual says one thing at campaign time and does the opposite when elected, he cannot be trusted
Years ago at a mutual friends wedding I had the displeasure of sitting at this man's table. 'Thick as a plank' sums up his intellect, and certainly one of the dullest people I've ever met.
This is really bad. Iwi now have not only consultation rights, but also voting rights on council committees. Why cant other groups? According to reports they spouted on about racism and 'helping' democracy. What rubbish. Drysdale is way out of depth. And now iwi want a very expensive museum.
He's a waste of space and should never have been elected mayor. How much is the back hand and and certain developers that backed the mayor going to get out of this. The BS coming from the Mayor is all just a sham, the whole race base carry on is disgusting.
Gosh the poor people of Tauranga having an idiot like that for a mayor. Doesn't know his treaty, doesn't seem to know much. Good questioning Sean, I liked the tone you took. What non sense it has all become with these new additions to the treaty.
Thanks for asking the questions Sean! Our country's a mess! I'm worried about the potential path the future of this country is going down, Everyday Australia gets more appealing
So iwi get to get cash to give us permission to build roads and that maori for plaza in the middle of town. We need to stop all the maori street names there are just too many Try driving at the Tauraiko Crossing!
To avoid the question in future they will begin calling the appointees "expert consultants" and the fees will go sky high. Of course it is race based as mandated by the previous MP and the influential Maori caucus.
The average Olympic rower must spend, on average 15,000 hours rowing. That's 625 consecutive, 24 hours days of non-stop rowing. This means that if you are woke, you can be Mayor of Tauranga.
God when will he understand that the Council is elected to look after the affairs of all Tauranga Ratepayers and Resident, there is nothing wrong in doing a project with a outside partner but it should never be described as Co Governance project
Those of us who have returned for Christmas, will have a short stay, avoiding the media, avoiding the populace. No where is perfect, however, its not hard to find a better place to live. Best of luck nzers. Post script, Mahe is an excellent Olympian, tough as they come. Predictably he is weak of mind when it comes to ideology politics.
I hope Mahe reflects on the comments on this page, which are but a token of the public's thinking. I'm predicting, unless he now achieves something remarkable, he'll be a one term Mayor. What a disappointment. Who would have guessed, world class not only in a waka, but also in being woke. He reminds me of Kieran McAnulty - either a liar or just plain deluded and mischievous about the legislative requirements to have Maori input at the table.
The large amount of 'errs' and 'ums' by Drysdale suggests he's very unsure of his ground. Given it by passes any democratic process by virtue of race I believe he's in for a very rocky road ahead. And rightfully so.
Just a reminder that submissions on the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Bill have to be in by 07 January 2025. Evidently emailed submissions will not be accepted. Submission documents can be in PDF or certain other formats and can be submitted through the Parliament website. If you believe that all New Zealanders should be equal under one set of rules, then please consider sending in a submission. It doesn't have to be long or complicated. Thanks !!!
Like many Mayors and Councillors across the country, Mr Drysdale has no understanding of community engagement principles, clinging to a belief that what legislation may require is all that needs to be done. Shameful.
I found the bit where he said that the negative feedback was because the public don't understand the good outcomes that come when they partner with Iwi. Which says 1) People are dumb, leave it up to us savvy council people to rule and 2) He considers it a partnership. Both of which are pretty divisive and subjective viewpoints.
The problem isn’t Mahe Drysdale it is the requirement to consult Iwi. They are legally obliged to consult Iwi so in terms of practicality it makes sense to have them there. The laws are broken. We need to dismantle this race based system that is embedded into NZ law.
How much did the council pay boat owners before making them pay to launch their boats? Do they employ road users before dreaming up all those strange names for new roads, that 99% of use can't spell, pronounce or remember, and have no interest in?
And what exactly does the coalition and specifically Simeon Brown think about this? It would appear from this that Mahe was a world class rower. Anything else not so much. Nice and fluffy and amenable but lacking critical thinking or maybe just pushing that other Maori/Waitangi Tribunal agenda which is coming under the microscope.Sneaking in unelected Maori influence and infection and racial privilege on the side. Nice one Tauranga.
Oh no. I thought he would be more modern. Tauranga gets another dead wood council operating against the interests and wishes of tauranga people. Good questions sean. Mahi, you are the racist, not we nonmaori. Mahi, its all bullshit. What about the turds on sticks at the papamoa end of the causeway, who paid, also the maori sculpture in tauranga for 300000 for a couple of trellises.
This nonsense goes back to the view that arose about 10 years ago that Te Papa peninsula up to Gate Pa was not sold by the Maori owners to Archdeacon Brown in 1838 but was given to the Church "in Trust" for future Maori development. So, in recent years we have seen the council "gift" land in Mission Street to Iwi and now "gift" to Iwi, ownership to the land in the CBD on which the new civic centre will be built, which council will lease back. Archdeacon Brown was a lawyer before he became a missionary, and he was very careful to draw up sale and purchase agreements (there were two purchases in all) that were valid legal documents. They are still in existence and can be viewed in various books on the history of early Tauranga. The second purchase, which took the church holdings out to Gate Pa and was the larger, took some 18 months to complete as the Maori owners initially asked for a higher price than Brown was prepared to pay. They later reduced their price and the sale went ahead. Even the Anglican church has bought into the myth the land was held in trust and a few years ago we witnessed the spectacle of an Anglican bishop in his knees begging forgiveness of Iwi for the church not honouring its deal and trashing Brown's reputation in the process.
Partnership with Iwi, means that if you pay us. we wont send our youngsters in to property to give you reminders... Here Mahi has had coffees with the bullies. instead of saying, okay lets just see this plays out.... Not along tribal or family lines, but what the law has to say.... Mahi.... use the law.
Drysdale is certainly a bumbling speaker. He was put on the spot and didn't come across with any surety whatsoever. Been a track record he has demonstrated so far. And an umm and arrrh speaker!
He mentioned 'Required by Legislation' several times but failed to identify it. Appears to be confused between 'Consulting with' and 'Appointing'. Would like to see the application forms for these unelected persons to committees and also the minutes of the interviews with applicants and for that matter the advertised positions in Seek or the local paper or anywhere else for that matter.
The moment payments are made it is no longer consultation - this is wrong, wrong, wrong! I bet Tauranga ratepayers would rather their rates are used for the betterment of their community rather than bribing / paying off a few people who claim their heritage gives them rights. Using terms like partnership, co-governance and consultation undermines the democratic process.
Just another 'enabler' to separatist racism / favourtism in NZ. Drysdale's proved he's out of touch 'out of the blocks' and his depth. What a disappointment for those of us who voted the man. Marty - you are completely out of touch with Tauranga's rate payers.
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Race Based 100%
bingo...
I'm sure that I remember Mahe stating that he would listen, represent, and act on behalf of the ratepayers of Tauranga. That must be a world record. What was it, four weeks ago?
Just proves unless IWI are paid off, nothing gets done or approved.
Just like the Mafia.
You are onto it. Pay Us or we will cause shit
@@TheMileswin No worse. More like jacinderism.
What an absolute disgrace to New Zealand 🇳🇿 and all Olympians.
One term Mayor
Totally agree
Make life difficult for him give him shit looks like racisim is the in thing for idiots on councils how bloody sad is that
The problem is that the damage will all ready have been done. He won't care.
If he's lucky he mite do a term lefty twit
If he is lucky.
obviously not listening to the rate payers like he said he would......that makes him an out right liar
Mahi couldn't lie straight in bed. Shame on him for being an idiot.
He's no idiot. He knows what he is doing and thinks it's great.
This is just plain out wrong, what does Iwi have to do with Council Issues and pay them from taxpayer money.
..just another step towards co-governance based on the falsehood that 'Maori' didn' t give up self-determination in 1840.. Today, this is an attack on the equality of citizenship which needs to be resisted..
Just MORE FREE Lunches
@@briansatchell2319 and anything they can rip the rate payers off for.
Your council has been paying local iwi since 2020 being paid from your rates money
This absolutely needs to be stopped.
It's not race based... it's fractional ancestry based; which is even less of a justification.
I wrote to Mahe and the councillors before the council meeting and informed them of my objection to this raced based proposal, and how unacceptable the proposal is in terms of democracy for all New Zealanders. They have thus been informed and reminded in advance of where they are heading with this proposal.
Another perfect example of why the treaty principles bill or similar needs to be talked about, and voted on by the people.
Exactly. It Needs to be SORTED to stop all the Maori Bullshitt
Absolutely make sure you put in a submission on the treaty principles bill or this will continue to happen race based politics
Disgusting behaviour by this council
Hastings council is the same, they recently employed unelected youth🤦
why?aw not singing your song 🎧😂😂😂
@@Duckz558 singing your song of racism
Every resident of Tauranga should make that choice not what has happened.Hamilton is the same,should be put to the residents to decide.Disgrace.
Hamilton is another disgraceful woke inception by Southgate and 90% of the councilors. Wasting our rates on non elected people, who actually hold sway over many many council decisions....grrrr....shameful.
He has no idea what he is doing. He is out of his depth.
Definitely. Well out of his league.
He should have stuck to rowing.
This is BS from Mahe, it is race based, they're paid and they vote on the committees, not elected by the ratepayers of Tauranga.
what race does drysdale identify as I wonder...
@@zweed69 Don't you just love the word 'identify' this day and age, covers any manner of fantasy and tomfoolery doesn't it. All the best.
It goes smoother when iwi are involved because they make it difficult if they aren't given direct access to decision making even though they can use the same channels every individual does.. We should be cracking down on bullying tactics not caving to them.
This is disgraceful. Shame on the idiots who voted for him because he is an Olympian.
New Zealand is the only country i know of that race division is normal... absolutely disgraceful im ashamed to be a kiwi for that fact
This is apartheid in recerse
absolutely. No other country on earth governs itself this way
@@WavygraveeeYou’ve conveniently forgotten South Africa; Rhodesia; and no doubt other examples;
Great Debate Mr Plunkett; ✅
@@davidmccormick3742 do they do that now??
This clearly puts a thumb on the scale regarding all council decisions... Apartheid in action. ("Not appointed to Council" (but are still on the committees and still have an influence) is an obfuscation - we are not fooled.)
Mahe is a soft touch. Out of his depth. He's got no idea what he has just done to the rest of NZ.
@@chriskiwi2601 he is certainly out of his depth and as per usual says one thing at campaign time and does the opposite when elected, he cannot be trusted
This started with hazelhurst is hastings
@@bassbrother81Yes, it did.
Another shitfight in Tauranga ..... no surprises there ...worse to come of course .
Shame on him.
Years ago at a mutual friends wedding I had the displeasure of sitting at this man's table. 'Thick as a plank' sums up his intellect, and certainly one of the dullest people I've ever met.
Thick as two short planks,my dear old dad used to say 😂
Yes should have stuck to rowing.. all Braun , no brain..🙄🚣
might be the other way around i’m sure 😂
This really shows how piss weak NZ is. Got to wonder if threats are involved in some councils/majors folding.
😂😂😂fkn hell lol😂low blow😂😂😂
Problem is, we have no legislative protection of the equality of the vote in NZ..
Holy fuck we are going backwards - We keep wasting money looking backwards
If you black you rule somebody wake up and deal with this shit
@@tomhoro6468 "if you black" 🤣 wake up your not in america you are not black and will never be considered black in their world.... doofus
@ Lol There isn’t any pure Māori left - they been pre mixed in the white pot!
The Tauranga people who put him there won't be very happy with this .
Stay fit Mahi, might have to go back rowing next term.
What will be done to restore democracy...?
democracy gonna happen now that we’ve a say believing it will benefit every single citizen of aotearoanz🎉🎉
What a crock. He is really out of his depth. Poor Tauranga after a commission and now this rubbish.
Out of the fire and into the frying pan. I bet most of the rate payers are in shock. Just another athlete taking the Mickey.
nah just a few the likes of everywhere else 😂😂😂
This is really bad. Iwi now have not only consultation rights, but also voting rights on council committees.
Why cant other groups? According to reports they spouted on about racism and 'helping' democracy. What rubbish. Drysdale is way out of depth. And now iwi want a very expensive museum.
that’ll be awesome like😂😂
Tag wagging the dog, woke mayor failing to look after the majority of rate payers
So sick to death with this country. End all race based BS now before we end up being Zimbabwe of the Pacific 🤦
We became that way with Jabbsinta she got paid millions to stuff the country up and decide the poeple WEF
go to another country or your own then compare or complain again
This guy is full of shit
Hes talking co governance
Co-governence has been in since 2020 and they have been paid money every year from our rates.
Should stick to rowing
when does this end kiwis are sick of it should not be on council with one eye
what about no eyes😂😂
He's a waste of space and should never have been elected mayor. How much is the back hand and and certain developers that backed the mayor going to get out of this. The BS coming from the Mayor is all just a sham, the whole race base carry on is disgusting.
Mahe - we don't want maori or iwi representatives on council
Deceitful and maybe corrupt as well.
Draysdale was voted on by his Maori voters thats obvious Maori wards need to go not Democratic
Democracy out the window, NZ'ERS better wake up and stand up, or you will be filling the bags and saying yes sir to allowing Maori to gain control.
well it’s been the opposite for 180yrs
when shouldn’t of been natural facts
Bad news Drysdale - one term Mayor - this makes me sick
😂😂😂😂wrong song lol
The ethno state of New Zimbabwe
Mahe is the prime example as to why we need a referendum on the Treaty. Lets have a vote!
This was a disgrace to democracy. We are very upset . Putting in a museum after we had a referendum and said no. But still going forward
Well Mahi has turned. No doubt bullied into race based policy
By his Wife??
What a bloody bloody outrage
Old Mahe is better off sticking to sport. He is quite not comfortable with most of what Sean has put to him. He won't last long.
His Deputy is No beter
Gosh the poor people of Tauranga having an idiot like that for a mayor. Doesn't know his treaty, doesn't seem to know much. Good questioning Sean, I liked the tone you took. What non sense it has all become with these new additions to the treaty.
Thanks for asking the questions Sean! Our country's a mess! I'm worried about the potential path the future of this country is going down, Everyday Australia gets more appealing
One term mayor mahe
Listen to all the maori names in the bop, its maorification of bop!
So iwi get to get cash to give us permission to build roads and that maori for plaza in the middle of town.
We need to stop all the maori street names there are just too many
Try driving at the Tauraiko Crossing!
To avoid the question in future they will begin calling the appointees "expert consultants" and the fees will go sky high. Of course it is race based as mandated by the previous MP and the influential Maori caucus.
So it went from, "they cant vote or make desicisions that's still into the council".
To "when they are involved in the desicion"
Brown Card $$$$$$$$
The average Olympic rower must spend, on average 15,000 hours rowing. That's 625 consecutive, 24 hours days of non-stop rowing. This means that if you are woke, you can be Mayor of Tauranga.
God when will he understand that the Council is elected to look after the affairs of all Tauranga Ratepayers and Resident, there is nothing wrong in doing a project with a outside partner but it should never be described as Co Governance project
Koha at work and flourishing
Those of us who have returned for Christmas, will have a short stay, avoiding the media, avoiding the populace. No where is perfect, however, its not hard to find a better place to live. Best of luck nzers. Post script, Mahe is an excellent Olympian, tough as they come. Predictably he is weak of mind when it comes to ideology politics.
I hope Mahe reflects on the comments on this page, which are but a token of the public's thinking. I'm predicting, unless he now achieves something remarkable, he'll be a one term Mayor. What a disappointment. Who would have guessed, world class not only in a waka, but also in being woke. He reminds me of Kieran McAnulty - either a liar or just plain deluded and mischievous about the legislative requirements to have Maori input at the table.
sounds like Mahe's boat is stuck on autopilot and is heading straight towards the Astrolabe Reef 🤔😋
Merry clown world
The large amount of 'errs' and 'ums' by Drysdale suggests he's very unsure of his ground. Given it by passes any democratic process by virtue of race I believe he's in for a very rocky road ahead. And rightfully so.
Yip , can't even speak properly , what a dumb f#@k .
Lots of expensive Maori statues, thats what I see
This reminds me of the navy recruiting offices on the US east coast. They don't even need to speak english in them. It's all done in Chinese there!
ah ah ah mmm ah ah mmmm ah ah ah
Just what I was thinking!! Ah ah mmmm I ah mmm lost ah mmm count ah mmmmmmmmmmm !!!
Haha. You noticed that as well
Just a reminder that submissions on the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Bill have to be in by 07 January 2025. Evidently emailed submissions will not be accepted. Submission documents can be in PDF or certain other formats and can be submitted through the Parliament website. If you believe that all New Zealanders should be equal under one set of rules, then please consider sending in a submission. It doesn't have to be long or complicated. Thanks !!!
Like many Mayors and Councillors across the country, Mr Drysdale has no understanding of community engagement principles, clinging to a belief that what legislation may require is all that needs to be done. Shameful.
I see it as vote stacking, without them some of the things he wants to do probably wound'nt get through, its all dodgy
An excellent interview! Drysdale clearly out of his depth
I found the bit where he said that the negative feedback was because the public don't understand the good outcomes that come when they partner with Iwi.
Which says 1) People are dumb, leave it up to us savvy council people to rule and 2) He considers it a partnership.
Both of which are pretty divisive and subjective viewpoints.
Been rowing his waka in the sun for too long. Should change his surname to Newbro.
Mahi uP shit creek without a paddle 🤷
You don't need to put Maori on council committee just to get an input. They were not voted in, so do not deserve to be there.
Racial based political participation.
Get rid of it. All of it.. Top to bottom. Starting with the Maori seats in parliament.
1 person, 1 vote.
So why are these people not being voted on
Thats what pisses most people off
They Wouldn't GET IN normally. They Need a FREE Seat
How do these people get into council no partnership in the treaty 160 ethnicities what a poor excuse for a major feel sorry for tauranga
The problem isn’t Mahe Drysdale it is the requirement to consult Iwi. They are legally obliged to consult Iwi so in terms of practicality it makes sense to have them there.
The laws are broken. We need to dismantle this race based system that is embedded into NZ law.
How much did the council pay boat owners before making them pay to launch their boats? Do they employ road users before dreaming up all those strange names for new roads, that 99% of use can't spell, pronounce or remember, and have no interest in?
Definitely needs representation from older persons org. as many retire to the bay
If it was legislatively mandatory, Councillors wouldn't have voted 🎤
And what exactly does the coalition and specifically Simeon Brown think about this?
It would appear from this that Mahe was a world class rower. Anything else not so much.
Nice and fluffy and amenable but lacking critical thinking or maybe just pushing that other Maori/Waitangi Tribunal agenda which is coming under the microscope.Sneaking in unelected Maori influence and infection and racial privilege on the side. Nice one Tauranga.
Hopefully he’s kept his rowboat, one term mayor incoming.
This why the Treaty needs to go. It’s pointless
Are any of the iwi reps European?
Who would of thought the word "partnership" would be so triggering
Oh no. I thought he would be more modern. Tauranga gets another dead wood council operating against the interests and wishes of tauranga people. Good questions sean. Mahi, you are the racist, not we nonmaori. Mahi, its all bullshit. What about the turds on sticks at the papamoa end of the causeway, who paid, also the maori sculpture in tauranga for 300000 for a couple of trellises.
And spending 10k on Painting Pedestrian Crossings in Stripes for the Queers
This nonsense goes back to the view that arose about 10 years ago that Te Papa peninsula up to Gate Pa was not sold by the Maori owners to Archdeacon Brown in 1838 but was given to the Church "in Trust" for future Maori development. So, in recent years we have seen the council "gift" land in Mission Street to Iwi and now "gift" to Iwi, ownership to the land in the CBD on which the new civic centre will be built, which council will lease back. Archdeacon Brown was a lawyer before he became a missionary, and he was very careful to draw up sale and purchase agreements (there were two purchases in all) that were valid legal documents. They are still in existence and can be viewed in various books on the history of early Tauranga. The second purchase, which took the church holdings out to Gate Pa and was the larger, took some 18 months to complete as the Maori owners initially asked for a higher price than Brown was prepared to pay. They later reduced their price and the sale went ahead. Even the Anglican church has bought into the myth the land was held in trust and a few years ago we witnessed the spectacle of an Anglican bishop in his knees begging forgiveness of Iwi for the church not honouring its deal and trashing Brown's reputation in the process.
Woke Mahi shocking.😮
Elected for poplularity not for brains.
Yep another corrupt council
Rowers always look backwards. FACT.
Partnership with Iwi, means that if you pay us. we wont send our youngsters in to property to give you reminders... Here Mahi has had coffees with the bullies. instead of saying, okay lets just see this plays out.... Not along tribal or family lines, but what the law has to say.... Mahi.... use the law.
race based no one else gets a look in shamefull
Drysdale is certainly a bumbling speaker. He was put on the spot and didn't come across with any surety whatsoever. Been a track record he has demonstrated so far. And an umm and arrrh speaker!
Yep, weak attempt at justifying his woke attitude with waffle. Idiot.
He mentioned 'Required by Legislation' several times but failed to identify it. Appears to be confused between 'Consulting with' and 'Appointing'. Would like to see the application forms for these unelected persons to committees and also the minutes of the interviews with applicants and for that matter the advertised positions in Seek or the local paper or anywhere else for that matter.
I think there are some powerful elected Māori in the council pushing this and mahe can’t do much about it, he knows he’s walking a tightrope.
The moment payments are made it is no longer consultation - this is wrong, wrong, wrong! I bet Tauranga ratepayers would rather their rates are used for the betterment of their community rather than bribing / paying off a few people who claim their heritage gives them rights. Using terms like partnership, co-governance and consultation undermines the democratic process.
Just another 'enabler' to separatist racism / favourtism in NZ. Drysdale's proved he's out of touch 'out of the blocks' and his depth. What a disappointment for those of us who voted the man. Marty - you are completely out of touch with Tauranga's rate payers.