tyler joseph is such a genius. he created this whole world that on surface is a really interesting story which is all just a huge metaphor for real life things. there are so many lyrics on trench that fit the narrative of dema while also discussing mental illness AND music (the need for it/the creative process/or the industry) AND faith all at the same time. it's all open for interpretation and each individual can take the meanings in their own way however they need it, whether it's emotional, mental, or spiritual. i love this band so much and i'm always in awe of how their minds work. there's no limit to their creativity
When he said that they had created a community of fans trying to crack the code I kind of teared up because it’s true. I was still in school when the whole was going down and it was the only thing I looked forward to; finding clues with my fellow clique members on discord reddit and twitter. I can’t believe how important the DEMA universe was and still is to me. I finally got to meet Tyler and Josh on Monday and I personally thanked them for uniting us and giving us hope, for creating a haven. This band means so much to me
ewolfgirl thank you! It was just endless thank you’s back and forth haha but I got to give them a book full of clique art and messages from people all over the world. They were so ecstatic to see it :)
Me too . I had school, I had tests day in day out and it was miserable, the stress, the fast paced life. And then twenty one pilots came to my rescue, again.
Tyler and Clancy are two different persons in the story. If you read Clancy's journals he writes about seeing Tyler in Trench, but they didn't tell us too much about who Clancy actually is
You know it’s been confirmed Clancy isn’t Tyler at all. In one of Clancy’s letters, he writes about the events from the jumpsuit video as if he were an outside witness. He saw Tyler get taken by Nico. Therefore Clancy isn’t Tyler. There are a couple of other examples too. I just remember that one the clearest.
Yeah I think Clancy is sort of his alter ego. Tyler represents the dark, uncertain, insecure side while Clancy represents reason. Tyler is talking about his insecurities and anxiety but Clancy is his side that knows these insecurities are not real. Anyways that’s my view on this
I feel like they’re parallels. Not the same, per se, but they share similarities and stories. While Clancy’s story is about attempting to escape dystopia, Tyler’s is about attempting to escape mental illness, and seeing it in a physical way through the eyes of another character helps drive the themes home. They relate to each other and help the audience draw the analogy Tyler wanted us to see, basically. I could be totally wrong but lol that’s my take on it
well this didnt age very well, the letter being released alongside the outside mv confirms that tyler is clancy and the jumpsuit letter was an out of body experience
this is such an informative video about the story of Trench and actually goes in depth with the dema website and ties everything together as it should be! great job (-:
I smiled so much when you said it's an interactive story where you feel that you're involved. If Tyler really planned it like this, he really deserved a medal
Fun Fact: Nico and Blurryface are the same person, but when Tyler looked at him for the first time, he didn’t know his name so he called him by the way he looked like: Blurryface
This is why I love Twenty One Pilots. I'm not a fan girl that likes seeing them shirtless, I'm a fan girl that obsesses over lyrics and stories and voices and sounds 😂
Previously I was just a casual listener. It's the well thought of concept of Dema that drawn me to them.. Then I realized how attractive they actually are ^ω^
I really like lyrics as well and I think that's part of why I like writing songs. Personally I think the concept of trench is so cool, especially as a songwriter.
Well, that is why i love the clique and that is why i love Tyler. He wants us to THINK. He doesn't tell us this genius story, he wants us to use our ability to think and discuss things. And that is the reason why real twenty one pilots fans are people unique and different, people who want to discover, analyse and create. Okay wow, in just a year the boys have managed to put all those things together. That is truly an amazing thing. It was definetly worth the wait. I feel so grateful for having them and for having you guys, the skeletøn clique. I love you all so much... and that screen is keeping me, my soul, and my brain alive♥ ||-//
As someone who has been following twenty one pilots and their albums for years, I feel that you hit the nail directly on the head. This was so we'll explained and you really dug into the album to try to and it. I'm definitely linking any questions about twenty one pilots to this video!
Derpz Da Derpy yeah I feel like the songs themselves are really deep and meaningful and have a lot of religious references and stuff, but it’s not a story that twines together, they’re each their own song
MCR: *creates a story about a corporation that tries to get rid of individuality and fights it as killjoys* TØP: *makes a story about fighting fear with hope with the metaphor of Clancy and his scape from Dema to join the banditos* FOB: *makes a story about some secret organization that's trying to eradicate rock and roll and good music and how they fight back as youngbloods* Me: *looks at P!atd* do something
@@ToryHater4069 I think blurryface has some of their best songs (first 5 tracks) but it falls off hard after those. Trench is consistently good all the way through.
I don't think I could love Twenty One Pilots or this album any more. Its so amazing. This was a really great breakdown of the album and their narrative.
@@camponyoftoo2463 I never said a song references it, but every album Tyler mentions his guide as God in some way, he mentions god, but in trench this isn't the case, he's showing his doubt of his faith
juan bautista Facio The whole album is structured around symbols Tyler made about trying to deal with his doubts about his faith, trying to work his way back to God - or at least to find a higher meaning. Tyler confirmed it in an interview to AltPress. The person who made this video maybe hasn’t seen that interview yet...HOWEVER, I do think twenty one pilots likes that people have different interpretations of their imagery and their songs. I think they are cryptic and symbolic so people can apply things to their own life.
Wait... So Clancy could be the representation of all of us struggling with mental illnesses, for which we seem trapped within (Dema or maybe "demons"(?) inner demons?). The Banditos represents the Clique, which has helped Tyler. Tyler states he's a bandito, and his music helps us.... the other Clancy's in the world.
I think this is the best way to explain the story. It leaves you with a lot of information but doesn’t entirely explain it so you have a chance to go deeper than the video did.
“Really pronounced”? According to who, Canadians? British? Australians? The British can’t even say America or Honda, they say AmeriKer and Hond-er. The Canadians have all sorts of speech issues, as do people from Bahston, that’s Boston for the rest of us. “I reject your reality and replace it with my own”. It’s “click” in my reality.
i love how regardless of genre and how people fight over what music is "good" or "bad" you appriciate and respect all the effort many different kinds of musicians make in their songs, its incredibly mature and respectful of you as a creator to appreciate so many different things
I love it when artists create stories with their songs and music videos, like how bts had a story with one of their old albums THAT GOT A WEBTOON SERIES.
Hi! I really loved watching this video! I think it is the first video I saw about Twenty One Pilots which went into discussing and presenting the importance of the narrative in Trench and how much the band put into it and how actually enjoyable it is to feel as a part of a secret community in a way! Thank you so much for this video, it really made me to rethink what this album and Twenty One Pilots are to me! Everyone stay positive and have a beautiful day :)
There's another level to the album: Tyler said he was going through a personal crisis of faith while creating Trench (one that he's still going through); the album reflects the struggle of moving from that place of being certain in your faith, to one where there is possibly no God.
It all started when at the APMA's when Josh went to go and collect the award and he said Tyler couldn't be there because he was severing ties with dema. Then all hell broke loose
Tyler Joseph has Anxiety not depression, the reason why he had his hands colored was because right before Joseph got on stage coloring them helped control his Anxiety so he wouldn't do self harm to take his mind off of it.
no.. no. he literally said in multiple interviews he paints his neck black to represent the feeling of suffocating, and his hands black because he’s insecure about what the my create. no clue where you heard that but it’s far from true.
But you missed out sooo much..... For those intrested please keep looking this is only part of the story and links. Its a powerful world to let your mind get lost in with so many possibilities that would be viable. Just one example, how when in Nico and the Niners is linked to the video of Heathens by these lyrics being played out. We still dont know directly who blurry face is or who clancy is. "Rent a race horse and force a sponsor And start a concert, a complete diversion Start a mob and you can be quite certain We'll win but not everyone will get out"
Honestly not a more clever unique band/singer. Tyler truly loves and appreciates his fans. With his music he gives us a lot to look forward to. Every 3 years we get a new album so 2021 most likely we should get a new album and I’m beyond excited to see where we go next and the new chapter.
This is the best overview I have seen of the album. You really analyze it and get into it. It reminds me of people analyzing classic bands of the past. Very awesome.
Ok, first off ... INSECURITY is NOT a mental illness. Everyone is insecure sometimes. Everyone has to fight their fears. The band is talking to EVERYONE, not just “mentally ill” people. We ALL share the fight between hope and fear. Also, Tyler confirmed to AltPress that the city & trench are places he named to represent a sort of SPIRITUAL battle - the city/Dema is a symbol for a mental state where life has no spiritual meaning, no God ... Dema is a world where only math and science matter and where the goal is fame. Nico (Nicholas Bourbaki) represents those thoughts that pull Tyler into that world. Trench is the name he gave for the place where you search for more meaning than just this world - for Tyler, Trench is where he deals with doubts about the God who was with him in his youth, but it’s also where he just finds “meaning for now” to just “stay alive” - being with others who are searching for a higher meaning. There are lots of other people searching for a higher meaning with him - the Banditos. Tyler told AltPress he hasn’t named the NEXT place that he’s trying to reach - the one where he either gets back to God or finds a higher meaning. Tyler told AltPress: “I’m talking about the world I’m traveling through, but I never really reach the place I’m trying to get to. It’s not because I’m holding on to some secret: You’re looking at someone who is still trying to figure out where that place is. ... “When I make it out of Trench and I get to where I’m going and I know what the name is, I wonder then if I’ll be more bold in my faith and what our purpose is being here.”
*Unpopular opinion,* but this is actually so disappointing to me because I'm an atheist and a huge proponent of skepticism/science, and I LOVE twenty one pilots' songwriting and storytelling. I just wish that faith and religion didn't tie so heavily in with everything, because I really can't agree with that stuff from a personal level.
I totally agree with you but I also believe that Religion has nothing to do with Spirituality. I personally don't believe in a God or follow a particular religion but that doesn't make me any less spiritual. Science itself if a spiritual and beautiful experience which is based on logic and truth. Religion, on the other hand, is like a grave practical joke played on humanity.
Annie Keller I can understand that. But even if you have everything figured out, you are welcome to join those of us who are still searching - you can be part of the Banditos and our complete diversions 😬 As Ritik said, you might find some spiritual meaning in the beauty and enjoyment of life 🌼
Actually the color yellow represents love and support. This is shown when the banditos throw yellow flowers at Tyler to help him break the trance from Nico during Jumpsuit. They also slap some yellow tape on his jacket in Levitate. Also the bishops, according to the story, can’t see the color yellow so it makes it the perfect color to use for supporting each other.
While I wouldn't call what TOP is doing right now groundbreaking (see Nine Inch Nails, maudlin of the Well), it is really cool and has rarely been done on this commercial of a level.
I think what TØP are doing is simplifying this kind of storytelling to a mainstream audience (their fans) who (no offense to the fans) probably couldn't understand a complicated story like other bands have pulled off in the past.
Never said it wasn't good, but check out the story on an album like The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails or Hospice by The Antlers, or the promotional material for Year Zero by NiN, or look into the uncracked code across the two maudlin of the Well albums Bath and Leaving Your Body Map. Some really interesting stuff
Yeah I'm surprised it's being treated as something new. Bands have been doing for this decades. Concept albums are not new. TOP is doing it wonderfully and the album is quite good too, but like... it's nothing groundbreaking or unique.
This was the most accurately explained depiction of trench. I've been a fan of twenty one pilots from the beginning and this laid out the story of the way they story tell better than the way I had it in my head.
Hi Polyphonic! that was a very interresting video, and wasn't aware of that aspect of twenty one pilot but as a French dude, it really make me think of a very VERY good French band called " Stupeflip " who use same technique of cryptic narration, through lyrics and clip, it draw a strange world with obscur religious cult, languagues, and récurent caracter it is also a strange band because they don't really have genre bondaries, rock, rap, electro, French pop, trap, hip pop you name it it is very good, very unique, and I highly recommend it to any curious mind out there, here some easy one to listen, some are really weird ( shouting "caca" shit in frenchduring a whole minute is a thing they do ) Stupeflip Vite La Menuiserie Le Spleen des petit ( kids spleen ) I hope you will enjoy =) ps : and check out the lyrics it is a big part of the fun!
They’re such an exciting band to get into. I’ve been listening to them for about 6 years now but with this album I feel like there’s so much to rediscover.
I had goosebumps throughout this entire video. I don't know why but whenever I listen to Twenty One Pilots I just forget about all the trouble I have and the trouble in the world. Their songs make me feel so relaxed and so good that I will be forever grateful for what they have produced and what they will produce in the future.
I've always been a passive fan of TØP, but as a musician and artist, they have my full appreciation. It's beautiful when artists merge multiple mediums to tell a full story. Inspirational
I have been looking for new music -- this seems right up my alley, especially with the recognition of mental illness. Thanks for the intro to this great band!
Adam Kecskes ooohhhh you are in for a RIDE. I could suggest so many good songs right now but that would be a bit overbearing. Anyway, good luck, haha (VESSEL IS THE BEST ALBUM AND SELF TITLED IS THE PIANO BALLAD/EMO ALBUM)
Best video essay i have ever watched ever and the cliffhanger in the ending wow next video on marshall mather lp and deep dive on the album and help us understand the album even more
Theory: Dema and Nico represent depression Every time Tyler tries to escape they bring him back Boom mind blown Btw I could have explained this better but idk how to
Years ago, I loved MCR because they always told a story and built a world in their albums. And T0P makes me feel the same way I felt then, like I'm a part of something. Like I belong. Never thought this would happen again tbh. From "I am not afraid to walk this world alone" to "DEMA (our mental illnesses) don't control us"
I'm not a 21 Pilots fan myself, but this is a really cool story. Thanks for sharing. Also, I wanted to ask, with Remembrance day coming up, are you planning any kind of episode for the occasion? After seeing your Scarborough Fair/Canticle Video, I couldn't help but think about you discussing the history of war songs or something similar to that. Personally, on Remembrance day I am going to listen to one album completely form start to finish. It's called Foreign Skies by a Canadian folk-punk band called The Dreadnoughts. It's all about the First World War, and with the 100 year anniversary of the end of the war coming up, I thought it would be a good time to bring it up. You can listen to the album for free, legally, off of their TH-cam channel at this link: th-cam.com/video/NiVLCew4Pu0/w-d-xo.html
I'm not trying to be rude or be snobby, But if you don't want to get attacked by Twenty One Pilots fans you should probably start spelling it as Twenty One Pilots or TØP not 21 pilots, Because a lot of fans get very triggered and attack people who said that, Again I was just letting you know.
Im new to the whole twenty one pilots scene and ive been to figure their music out but ive been so clueless the whole time... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! (Now i like them even more than i did before watching this haha)
Although I'm not a huge fan of their music, I respect the hell out of them and I think that they do deserve a video to see what take Polyphonic give them in a video essay.
when you go to the concert it all comes together more. everyone there is dressed as a bandito and therefore the fans are also banditos. Tyler has also said that the lore was built after he struggled going through the hiatus and wanted us to give our input on his ideas
Is this album worth listening to if you're out of the loop with all the story telling? I'm not really a fan of these guys, haven't listened to their stuff much. Seems like a lot of the songs are dedicated to fans that research, and fans in general.
Nah, you can listen to it without of digging into the story, sure you don't get the full experience but songs themselves are pretty good, I'd recommend you to listen to it!
I never really got that impression. I don't listen to them a lot, but I still think the music is enjoyable, even without the context of a story behind it. Good question! You get a point
The only song that’s really bizarre without context is Nico and the Niners but everything else holds up on it’s own without the backstory, and songs like My Blood and Neon Gravestones have really grown on me. Definitely still worth listening to
You spoke all of the thoughts on Dema that I've been thinking for some time now! Actually, I think that Tyler is both talking about the dystopian world with Dema and Clancy as well as his own experience, the hiatus, the band's rise in popularity, and the fans. I tried to write out my thoughts but it's WAYYYY too long and will end up being an "in this essay I will" so I think I'll just leave it at that.
This is so much in depth and well done than @theneedledrop absurdist comedic take on album reviews. I get that Fantano makes sense, but there is NO WAY he can uncover a record as deeply as they one needs to because he listens to so much music. Im sorry, I get that music is subjective but nothing should be passed as good or bad based on a arbitrary scoring system, albeit its one doused in personal opinion etc etc.
@@spyral43 I see your point. In a weird way though, it's often the case that I as a person may get swayed from time to time with someone else's opinion. If there's a movie that my friends tell me is bad, I avoid watching it currently AMC is expensive as shit. If there is a dish on the menu at a restaurant that someone has advised against, I'm less likely to try it out. I'm paying for it, so gotta be careful. Similarly, I watch his reviews, and he writes his script decently well, is articulate and I think he has some journalistic chops. If he scored something less,, I'm less likely to go out and buy the album on vinyl or CD. I usually listen to album tons of time before committing to buy the Vinyl, support the artist. But its weird that he has such a concrete understanding about a concept album in its entirety, considering the fact he listens to a ton of music. It's hard for the human mind to absorb that amount of knowledge. That's just my 2 cents.
i my opinion, it seems the two videos have extremely different purposes. this one explains the story behind the album and brings in the contribution of the clique and the community, and explains why and how people would find this album and band attractive and helpful. however, it's purpose is not to review the album or the musicianship in any way. does polyphonic's video talk about the melodies, instrumentals, vocals, chord progressions, bass-lines, layering, song structure, track listing, production, transitions and so on? no, not at all, and therefore i would hardly consider this an album review. that is not a criticism, it is simply not what this video aims to do. anthony, on the other hand, does not delve into the lore, nor does he bother trying to explain it, and instead reviews the album track by track, focusing solely on the actual music, giving the view and perspective of someone who does not know the backstory at all, like most people outside the fandom enjoying the music casually. these are two different channels with entirely different purposes, and i do not see the reason to compare them. in fact, if you put them together, you get a complete and in depth analysis of every aspect of the album: polyphonic gives the backstory, cryptic messages, videos, colour schemes and symbols, and the social/community aspect, whilst fantano gives insight into the music it self. and quite honestly, fantano gave the album a great review so i don't see the problem
@@karinaube1750 after your reply, I rewatched the Fantano video and I have to admit, that you are right. The two channels are very different in what they're trying to achieve and both have a place, which in fact, can get combined to give the record a total picture. I see where I made a mistake . While I still stand by my point that Fantano does listen to a whole lot of music and is incapable of digesting all the nuances of a record, I will admit that his purpose is different from Polyphonic. Thank you, Karina, for explaining it to me so well. Cheers.
Shreyas Gune you have a good point that as so much music is consumed, there are bound to be aspects of his reviews in which he falls short. thank you for the reflective and introspective reply, sadly not many people seem capable of re-evaluating set opinions, so you sort of made my day. have a great day:)
Neon Gravestones is actually a song connecting to the story. In the Dema Map, there is an are called Necropolis which contains the “Neon Gravestones” of those who have committed suicide. The Bishops glorify suicide as a better way to go out to escape from Dema. Now it’s fair that you haven’t realized this because it’s apart of future lore from when this video was posted. But it’s because the Bishops use necromancy as a way to take control, meaning they want more dead bodies to use for necromancy.
tyler joseph is such a genius. he created this whole world that on surface is a really interesting story which is all just a huge metaphor for real life things. there are so many lyrics on trench that fit the narrative of dema while also discussing mental illness AND music (the need for it/the creative process/or the industry) AND faith all at the same time. it's all open for interpretation and each individual can take the meanings in their own way however they need it, whether it's emotional, mental, or spiritual. i love this band so much and i'm always in awe of how their minds work. there's no limit to their creativity
lønely lana yes, and this is mind blowing
I think genius is a bit strong, but he's certainly both intelligent and creative
i wouldn't call him a genius, he's a biy cringy and pretentious but yeah that's some interesting stuff going on here
@@ihateshrek3itmakesnofuckin492 imagine thinking tyler fucking joseph is pretentious...
I think he will Never stop creating
When he said that they had created a community of fans trying to crack the code I kind of teared up because it’s true. I was still in school when the whole was going down and it was the only thing I looked forward to; finding clues with my fellow clique members on discord reddit and twitter. I can’t believe how important the DEMA universe was and still is to me. I finally got to meet Tyler and Josh on Monday and I personally thanked them for uniting us and giving us hope, for creating a haven. This band means so much to me
Glad you got to meet then! I'm sure what you said meant a lot to them.
ewolfgirl thank you! It was just endless thank you’s back and forth haha but I got to give them a book full of clique art and messages from people all over the world. They were so ecstatic to see it :)
Me too . I had school, I had tests day in day out and it was miserable, the stress, the fast paced life. And then twenty one pilots came to my rescue, again.
now that should be celebrated
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Creating a heathen*
FINALLY Polyphonic name drops me at 6:20
Bruh
Dude
... cheeky bitch.
Lol
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Tyler and Clancy are two different persons in the story. If you read Clancy's journals he writes about seeing Tyler in Trench, but they didn't tell us too much about who Clancy actually is
Botond Lubics I think we’re clancy
@@blackswanvante nice, it really makes me think tho.
*Thrench*
Not anymore
I believe that is the intent, yes, that the listener becomes the central protagonist of the story. It's a classic story-telling trope.
I am so glad that you the person to give this album a proper video essay.
You know it’s been confirmed Clancy isn’t Tyler at all. In one of Clancy’s letters, he writes about the events from the jumpsuit video as if he were an outside witness. He saw Tyler get taken by Nico. Therefore Clancy isn’t Tyler. There are a couple of other examples too. I just remember that one the clearest.
But remember that tyler and clancy can be the same person divided
Yeah I think Clancy is sort of his alter ego. Tyler represents the dark, uncertain, insecure side while Clancy represents reason. Tyler is talking about his insecurities and anxiety but Clancy is his side that knows these insecurities are not real. Anyways that’s my view on this
I feel like they’re parallels. Not the same, per se, but they share similarities and stories. While Clancy’s story is about attempting to escape dystopia, Tyler’s is about attempting to escape mental illness, and seeing it in a physical way through the eyes of another character helps drive the themes home. They relate to each other and help the audience draw the analogy Tyler wanted us to see, basically. I could be totally wrong but lol that’s my take on it
well this didnt age very well, the letter being released alongside the outside mv confirms that tyler is clancy and the jumpsuit letter was an out of body experience
my theory is that Clancy is a part of Tyler that’s trapped within dema like him. he knows Tyler’s memories and writes about it in notes.
this is such an informative video about the story of Trench and actually goes in depth with the dema website and ties everything together as it should be! great job (-:
Ada Juarez If only it recognizes them as at least “Twenty One Pilots”... and that it’s not plural.
Ada Juarez IT'S :-) NOT (-:
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PILLOW PILOTS hi
Oh hey dad. You're here
I swear, you could literally make an empty comment and you would still get likes and replies. I still like that you're here though.
oh look who's here
mah man
mah ni👌👌a
I see you comment on literally all vids I watch. Love your channel sm!!!
I smiled so much when you said it's an interactive story where you feel that you're involved. If Tyler really planned it like this, he really deserved a medal
Broke: Liking twenty øne piløts because Fantano says it's OK
Woke: Liking twenty øne piløts because Polyphonic says it's OK
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Wait, what? I thought Fantano disliked Blurryface. He gave it a low score, which as a 21P fan, lowkey triggered me.
@@kaphizmey6229 He doesn't like _Blurryface,_ but he gave _Trench_ an 8/10
He gave Trench an 8/10, but yeah he didn't like Blurryface.
Jokes on you! I like 21 Pilots because **I** say it's OK. **I AM THE MASTER OF MY DESTINY!**
Fun Fact: Nico and Blurryface are the same person, but when Tyler looked at him for the first time, he didn’t know his name so he called him by the way he looked like: Blurryface
That makes a lot of sense
Jumpsuit is also banditos
This is why I love Twenty One Pilots. I'm not a fan girl that likes seeing them shirtless, I'm a fan girl that obsesses over lyrics and stories and voices and sounds 😂
Dimønd Wølf why not both?
@@psrhy_2855 .o. well that would be the perfect fangirl, wouldn't it?
Previously I was just a casual listener. It's the well thought of concept of Dema that drawn me to them.. Then I realized how attractive they actually are ^ω^
Dimønd Wølf same
I really like lyrics as well and I think that's part of why I like writing songs. Personally I think the concept of trench is so cool, especially as a songwriter.
Well, that is why i love the clique and that is why i love Tyler. He wants us to THINK. He doesn't tell us this genius story, he wants us to use our ability to think and discuss things. And that is the reason why real twenty one pilots fans are people unique and different, people who want to discover, analyse and create. Okay wow, in just a year the boys have managed to put all those things together. That is truly an amazing thing. It was definetly worth the wait.
I feel so grateful for having them and for having you guys, the skeletøn clique. I love you all so much... and that screen is keeping me, my soul, and my brain alive♥
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skeleton CLEEK
I just snorted
😂😂😂😂
I was searching for this comment 😂
I thought you'd make a little more commentary on the video considering that you made video essays on the same topic yourself, but ok 😂
same.
I was actually suicidal but the release of this album actually kept me going on and I'm not disappointed
Stay strong ❤️
@@rainituesday I appreciate it
how did the release of the album keep you from killing yourself?
@@seanfeehly6206 the singles were killer and kept me in hype and suspence
Stay alive |-/
As someone who has been following twenty one pilots and their albums for years, I feel that you hit the nail directly on the head. This was so we'll explained and you really dug into the album to try to and it. I'm definitely linking any questions about twenty one pilots to this video!
I'm so glad so many people are giving tøp recognition for this album! i'm seeing them live in march cannot waittttt
Ooh, have fun!
thanks! i'm sure i will!
I will be too! Mine is London on the 8th
How was it
"Skeleton Cleeeek"
I strongly believe that My Blood is about being there for yourself.
Jesus. Just imagine how deep a video on their Self-Titled album could go. Oh g o d
Oof true
*HMM..*
Holy shit
the album isn't nearly as cohesive as Trench
Derpz Da Derpy yeah I feel like the songs themselves are really deep and meaningful and have a lot of religious references and stuff, but it’s not a story that twines together, they’re each their own song
clique = c l e a k
Clancy leak
#fairlylocal
ReachForTheSi that’s legitimately how it’s pronounced in every single English speaking country except the USA
MCR: *creates a story about a corporation that tries to get rid of individuality and fights it as killjoys*
TØP: *makes a story about fighting fear with hope with the metaphor of Clancy and his scape from Dema to join the banditos*
FOB: *makes a story about some secret organization that's trying to eradicate rock and roll and good music and how they fight back as youngbloods*
Me: *looks at P!atd* do something
I’ve always loved this band. I’m glad you’ve made a video on this album. They deserve all the praise they get.
I just want my twenty one pilots muse collab already...
They could appear on the next album muse releases! I know Tyler Joseph and Matt Bellamy are friends
Yes I've been saying this for so long!!
The collabo with Mutemath is good.
Kevin Head Literally saw them a year ago today.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why they are the best band of our generation
This album is SOOOOOOOO good. It's easily their best.
Your joking right??!
Sunforged Doubt
It is indeed their best. This is their Pretty. Odd. or their Folie A Deux
Nah blurryface is easily there best album
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I think blurryface has some of their best songs (first 5 tracks) but it falls off hard after those. Trench is consistently good all the way through.
I don't think I could love Twenty One Pilots or this album any more. Its so amazing. This was a really great breakdown of the album and their narrative.
And me thinking that was about religious and Illuminati things. I loved your perspective on the album
actually it is religious a bit, the whole album in a way is tyler showing himself losing his faith a little
@@Cheddar4U It dosent. No song references religion on the new album, they're about dema, family and suicide
@@camponyoftoo2463 I never said a song references it, but every album Tyler mentions his guide as God in some way, he mentions god, but in trench this isn't the case, he's showing his doubt of his faith
juan bautista Facio The whole album is structured around symbols Tyler made about trying to deal with his doubts about his faith, trying to work his way back to God - or at least to find a higher meaning. Tyler confirmed it in an interview to AltPress. The person who made this video maybe hasn’t seen that interview yet...HOWEVER, I do think twenty one pilots likes that people have different interpretations of their imagery and their songs. I think they are cryptic and symbolic so people can apply things to their own life.
There are many “Christian” references in Trench but, only few will know...
Wait... So Clancy could be the representation of all of us struggling with mental illnesses, for which we seem trapped within (Dema or maybe "demons"(?) inner demons?). The Banditos represents the Clique, which has helped Tyler. Tyler states he's a bandito, and his music helps us.... the other Clancy's in the world.
I think this is the best way to explain the story. It leaves you with a lot of information but doesn’t entirely explain it so you have a chance to go deeper than the video did.
So glad I am alive to experience this era of music
This helped me understand trench so much better - as i'm a newer fan
Tyler and Joseph also take theories from their fans and implement them into the lore.
"cleek"
that is the pronunciation. yes.
Polnajeff it’s click lmao
@@GT_Mr.C no that's just how most people say it the real words pronounciation is what the video person said
creature o I didn’t know that I say click lol
“Really pronounced”? According to who, Canadians? British? Australians? The British can’t even say America or Honda, they say AmeriKer and Hond-er. The Canadians have all sorts of speech issues, as do people from Bahston, that’s Boston for the rest of us.
“I reject your reality and replace it with my own”. It’s “click” in my reality.
I think this really reflects the purpose with the music and this album, and it's pretty accurate. Great video!
i love how regardless of genre and how people fight over what music is "good" or "bad" you appriciate and respect all the effort many different kinds of musicians make in their songs, its incredibly mature and respectful of you as a creator to appreciate so many different things
I thought you already talked about tøp, I'm having some mandela effect shit going on
But isn't that Déjà Vu?
Sailesh Sharma yeah it’s more déjà vu.
Maybe you're confusing him for Holistic Songwriting.
You tripping
@@saileshsharma2139 it is . Madela Effect is deja Vu on a masses I believe
I love it when artists create stories with their songs and music videos, like how bts had a story with one of their old albums THAT GOT A WEBTOON SERIES.
let's not use bts and artists in the same sentence now
can we just appreciate the editing
Hi! I really loved watching this video! I think it is the first video I saw about Twenty One Pilots which went into discussing and presenting the importance of the narrative in Trench and how much the band put into it and how actually enjoyable it is to feel as a part of a secret community in a way! Thank you so much for this video, it really made me to rethink what this album and Twenty One Pilots are to me! Everyone stay positive and have a beautiful day :)
There's another level to the album: Tyler said he was going through a personal crisis of faith while creating Trench (one that he's still going through); the album reflects the struggle of moving from that place of being certain in your faith, to one where there is possibly no God.
It all started when at the APMA's when Josh went to go and collect the award and he said Tyler couldn't be there because he was severing ties with dema. Then all hell broke loose
Tyler Joseph has Anxiety not depression, the reason why he had his hands colored was because right before Joseph got on stage coloring them helped control his Anxiety so he wouldn't do self harm to take his mind off of it.
He had depression when he was younger
He says it in songs like fake you out
Tyler struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts for a good portion of his teenage/young adult years.
no.. no. he literally said in multiple interviews he paints his neck black to represent the feeling of suffocating, and his hands black because he’s insecure about what the my create. no clue where you heard that but it’s far from true.
This is so well edited and storywise so complete! :D
But you missed out sooo much.....
For those intrested please keep looking this is only part of the story and links. Its a powerful world to let your mind get lost in with so many possibilities that would be viable.
Just one example, how when in Nico and the Niners is linked to the video of Heathens by these lyrics being played out. We still dont know directly who blurry face is or who clancy is.
"Rent a race horse and force a sponsor
And start a concert, a complete diversion
Start a mob and you can be quite certain
We'll win but not everyone will get out"
Honestly not a more clever unique band/singer. Tyler truly loves and appreciates his fans. With his music he gives us a lot to look forward to. Every 3 years we get a new album so 2021 most likely we should get a new album and I’m beyond excited to see where we go next and the new chapter.
If you like these sort of hidden stories inside music, try Blue Öyster Cult's "Imaginos". There's also a lot of incredible meaning behind the lyrics
I think its amazing how Tyler created this entire world and how we can feel like we are living in it
Just when you thought you couldn't love them any more!
This is the best overview I have seen of the album. You really analyze it and get into it. It reminds me of people analyzing classic bands of the past. Very awesome.
DUUUDE, I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS
i can’t believe this album was actually good. i’m impressed
subscribing after this video. this was really well done.
This is why TØP is my TOP Band of all Bands followed by MCR, P!atD and Paramore..
I have mental illness and looking for hope
Ok, first off ... INSECURITY is NOT a mental illness. Everyone is insecure sometimes. Everyone has to fight their fears.
The band is talking to EVERYONE, not just “mentally ill” people. We ALL share the fight between hope and fear.
Also, Tyler confirmed to AltPress that the city & trench are places he named to represent a sort of SPIRITUAL battle - the city/Dema is a symbol for a mental state where life has no spiritual meaning, no God ... Dema is a world where only math and science matter and where the goal is fame. Nico (Nicholas Bourbaki) represents those thoughts that pull Tyler into that world.
Trench is the name he gave for the place where you search for more meaning than just this world - for Tyler, Trench is where he deals with doubts about the God who was with him in his youth, but it’s also where he just finds “meaning for now” to just “stay alive” - being with others who are searching for a higher meaning.
There are lots of other people searching for a higher meaning with him - the Banditos.
Tyler told AltPress he hasn’t named the NEXT place that he’s trying to reach - the one where he either gets back to God or finds a higher meaning.
Tyler told AltPress: “I’m talking about the world I’m traveling through, but I never really reach the place I’m trying to get to. It’s not because I’m holding on to some secret: You’re looking at someone who is still trying to figure out where that place is. ...
“When I make it out of Trench and I get to where I’m going and I know what the name is, I wonder then if I’ll be more bold in my faith and what our purpose is being here.”
What you are saying is totally legit!! It is to bad this “informational” video doesn’t take this information into account.
Moonbeam Thank you!
*Unpopular opinion,* but this is actually so disappointing to me because I'm an atheist and a huge proponent of skepticism/science, and I LOVE twenty one pilots' songwriting and storytelling. I just wish that faith and religion didn't tie so heavily in with everything, because I really can't agree with that stuff from a personal level.
I totally agree with you but I also believe that Religion has nothing to do with Spirituality. I personally don't believe in a God or follow a particular religion but that doesn't make me any less spiritual. Science itself if a spiritual and beautiful experience which is based on logic and truth. Religion, on the other hand, is like a grave practical joke played on humanity.
Annie Keller I can understand that. But even if you have everything figured out, you are welcome to join those of us who are still searching - you can be part of the Banditos and our complete diversions 😬 As Ritik said, you might find some spiritual meaning in the beauty and enjoyment of life 🌼
Actually the color yellow represents love and support. This is shown when the banditos throw yellow flowers at Tyler to help him break the trance from Nico during Jumpsuit. They also slap some yellow tape on his jacket in Levitate. Also the bishops, according to the story, can’t see the color yellow so it makes it the perfect color to use for supporting each other.
While I wouldn't call what TOP is doing right now groundbreaking (see Nine Inch Nails, maudlin of the Well), it is really cool and has rarely been done on this commercial of a level.
If what they are doing isnt phenomenal idk what it is
I think what TØP are doing is simplifying this kind of storytelling to a mainstream audience (their fans) who (no offense to the fans) probably couldn't understand a complicated story like other bands have pulled off in the past.
Never said it wasn't good, but check out the story on an album like The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails or Hospice by The Antlers, or the promotional material for Year Zero by NiN, or look into the uncracked code across the two maudlin of the Well albums Bath and Leaving Your Body Map. Some really interesting stuff
@@musicenjoyer446 Never heard a more passive aggressive diss towards a fan-base before
Yeah I'm surprised it's being treated as something new. Bands have been doing for this decades. Concept albums are not new. TOP is doing it wonderfully and the album is quite good too, but like... it's nothing groundbreaking or unique.
This was the most accurately explained depiction of trench. I've been a fan of twenty one pilots from the beginning and this laid out the story of the way they story tell better than the way I had it in my head.
Hi Polyphonic! that was a very interresting video, and wasn't aware of that aspect of twenty one pilot but as a French dude, it really make me think of a very VERY good French band called " Stupeflip " who use same technique of cryptic narration, through lyrics and clip, it draw a strange world with obscur religious cult, languagues, and récurent caracter
it is also a strange band because they don't really have genre bondaries, rock, rap, electro, French pop, trap, hip pop you name it
it is very good, very unique, and I highly recommend it to any curious mind out there,
here some easy one to listen, some are really weird ( shouting "caca" shit in frenchduring a whole minute is a thing they do )
Stupeflip Vite
La Menuiserie
Le Spleen des petit ( kids spleen )
I hope you will enjoy =)
ps : and check out the lyrics it is a big part of the fun!
plus they are doing this since early 2000, so maybe they are an inspiration
They’re such an exciting band to get into. I’ve been listening to them for about 6 years now but with this album I feel like there’s so much to rediscover.
Best album of 2018!!! Thanks for the video!!
I had goosebumps throughout this entire video. I don't know why but whenever I listen to Twenty One Pilots I just forget about all the trouble I have and the trouble in the world. Their songs make me feel so relaxed and so good that I will be forever grateful for what they have produced and what they will produce in the future.
theory on cRAck: The trench album is about Tyler trying to escape the ways of Math
Dema = Math
I'm bored
I only now realized about the "tower of silence" and the "quiet game" go along
Please do fugazi!
I've always been a passive fan of TØP, but as a musician and artist, they have my full appreciation. It's beautiful when artists merge multiple mediums to tell a full story. Inspirational
Very interesting!
I have been looking for new music -- this seems right up my alley, especially with the recognition of mental illness. Thanks for the intro to this great band!
Adam Kecskes ooohhhh you are in for a RIDE. I could suggest so many good songs right now but that would be a bit overbearing. Anyway, good luck, haha
(VESSEL IS THE BEST ALBUM AND SELF TITLED IS THE PIANO BALLAD/EMO ALBUM)
@@sunshi4929 ...
This band means a lot to me and I'm happy you became aware of TØP through this. Stay Alive ||-//
@David Cisneros Chaves This is a strange comment, please, explain yourself
@@gluedtothemouse i know this is a late reply and you might know now, but they just commented the twenty one pilots logo/symbol
thats why i love this band |-/
Best video essay i have ever watched ever and the cliffhanger in the ending wow next video on marshall mather lp and deep dive on the album and help us understand the album even more
Theory: Dema and Nico represent depression
Every time Tyler tries to escape they bring him back
Boom mind blown
Btw I could have explained this better but idk how to
im here after listening to "leave the city" my sister is obsessed with 21 pilots and from now on i am officially a fan .
quickest I've ever clicked on a video
Cleeked
Years ago, I loved MCR because they always told a story and built a world in their albums. And T0P makes me feel the same way I felt then, like I'm a part of something. Like I belong. Never thought this would happen again tbh.
From "I am not afraid to walk this world alone" to "DEMA (our mental illnesses) don't control us"
One thing u didn’t mention Tyler isn’t Clancy
We need this made into a movie. They put so much into this storyline that it needs to be a 2h movie I can watch over and over again
Dem you now i am fallen deep into Twenty-One Pilots...
I wasnt updated on everything over the hiatus, so this REALLY helped. THANK YOU!
I'm not a 21 Pilots fan myself, but this is a really cool story. Thanks for sharing.
Also, I wanted to ask, with Remembrance day coming up, are you planning any kind of episode for the occasion? After seeing your Scarborough Fair/Canticle Video, I couldn't help but think about you discussing the history of war songs or something similar to that.
Personally, on Remembrance day I am going to listen to one album completely form start to finish. It's called Foreign Skies by a Canadian folk-punk band called The Dreadnoughts. It's all about the First World War, and with the 100 year anniversary of the end of the war coming up, I thought it would be a good time to bring it up. You can listen to the album for free, legally, off of their TH-cam channel at this link: th-cam.com/video/NiVLCew4Pu0/w-d-xo.html
I'm not trying to be rude or be snobby, But if you don't want to get attacked by Twenty One Pilots fans you should probably start spelling it as Twenty One Pilots or TØP not 21 pilots, Because a lot of fans get very triggered and attack people who said that, Again I was just letting you know.
Guys PLEASE don't attack him. He technically didn't spell it wrong. DONT be TOXIC clique.
Campony of Too I wasn’t trying to attack him (if your talking to me)
Im new to the whole twenty one pilots scene and ive been to figure their music out but ive been so clueless the whole time... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! (Now i like them even more than i did before watching this haha)
Make a video about D E A T H G R I P S
Yuss
Mr bungle is great
Although I'm not a huge fan of their music, I respect the hell out of them and I think that they do deserve a video to see what take Polyphonic give them in a video essay.
I see Death Grips and a Mr Bungle profile picture. I see you’ve jumped too far down the musical rabbit hole too, then.
Scout ²³ I love MR Bungle but I think Faith No More is much better. I just took this as my profile pick cuz I fought it looks weird.
god i love this band so much. i don't think i'd be here without them.
Just wait for the rush of fans to this video and equal amounts of praise and cancer
Here they come. This was posted on the discord.
Oh god
On behalf of the fandom, I am embarrassed
This is why I distance myself from the fandom
i will admit even though im not a fan for twenty-one pilots i watched this video for the information and great content that Polyphonic puts out.
wow! scandalous! what a shocking revelation!
Yo did anyone get those codes yet?
The way Tyler writes song is a true genius
Do a video on Devo
wow, this video is gold... the editing and he way you explained everything didn't let me take the attention out of it...AMAZING
That was interesting :)
I also love how theyve always encrypted answers or lyrics from their older songs to their other songs
the strokes ?
No, I'm pretty sure that's twenty one pilots
when you go to the concert it all comes together more. everyone there is dressed as a bandito and therefore the fans are also banditos. Tyler has also said that the lore was built after he struggled going through the hiatus and wanted us to give our input on his ideas
Is this album worth listening to if you're out of the loop with all the story telling? I'm not really a fan of these guys, haven't listened to their stuff much. Seems like a lot of the songs are dedicated to fans that research, and fans in general.
Nah, you can listen to it without of digging into the story, sure you don't get the full experience but songs themselves are pretty good, I'd recommend you to listen to it!
You can listen to it without having to know the story. The story is something that makes it more interesting but it's not a must
Honestly that’s what I love about it the lyrics and songs hold up on their own without the story I’m only learning more about it now
I never really got that impression. I don't listen to them a lot, but I still think the music is enjoyable, even without the context of a story behind it. Good question! You get a point
The only song that’s really bizarre without context is Nico and the Niners but everything else holds up on it’s own without the backstory, and songs like My Blood and Neon Gravestones have really grown on me. Definitely still worth listening to
You spoke all of the thoughts on Dema that I've been thinking for some time now! Actually, I think that Tyler is both talking about the dystopian world with Dema and Clancy as well as his own experience, the hiatus, the band's rise in popularity, and the fans. I tried to write out my thoughts but it's WAYYYY too long and will end up being an "in this essay I will" so I think I'll just leave it at that.
This is so much in depth and well done than @theneedledrop absurdist comedic take on album reviews. I get that Fantano makes sense, but there is NO WAY he can uncover a record as deeply as they one needs to because he listens to so much music. Im sorry, I get that music is subjective but nothing should be passed as good or bad based on a arbitrary scoring system, albeit its one doused in personal opinion etc etc.
If someone chooses to dislike something because a critic doesn't like it, that's their own fault tbh
@@spyral43 I see your point. In a weird way though, it's often the case that I as a person may get swayed from time to time with someone else's opinion. If there's a movie that my friends tell me is bad, I avoid watching it currently AMC is expensive as shit. If there is a dish on the menu at a restaurant that someone has advised against, I'm less likely to try it out. I'm paying for it, so gotta be careful. Similarly, I watch his reviews, and he writes his script decently well, is articulate and I think he has some journalistic chops. If he scored something less,, I'm less likely to go out and buy the album on vinyl or CD. I usually listen to album tons of time before committing to buy the Vinyl, support the artist. But its weird that he has such a concrete understanding about a concept album in its entirety, considering the fact he listens to a ton of music. It's hard for the human mind to absorb that amount of knowledge. That's just my 2 cents.
i my opinion, it seems the two videos have extremely different purposes. this one explains the story behind the album and brings in the contribution of the clique and the community, and explains why and how people would find this album and band attractive and helpful. however, it's purpose is not to review the album or the musicianship in any way. does polyphonic's video talk about the melodies, instrumentals, vocals, chord progressions, bass-lines, layering, song structure, track listing, production, transitions and so on? no, not at all, and therefore i would hardly consider this an album review. that is not a criticism, it is simply not what this video aims to do. anthony, on the other hand, does not delve into the lore, nor does he bother trying to explain it, and instead reviews the album track by track, focusing solely on the actual music, giving the view and perspective of someone who does not know the backstory at all, like most people outside the fandom enjoying the music casually. these are two different channels with entirely different purposes, and i do not see the reason to compare them. in fact, if you put them together, you get a complete and in depth analysis of every aspect of the album: polyphonic gives the backstory, cryptic messages, videos, colour schemes and symbols, and the social/community aspect, whilst fantano gives insight into the music it self. and quite honestly, fantano gave the album a great review so i don't see the problem
@@karinaube1750 after your reply, I rewatched the Fantano video and I have to admit, that you are right. The two channels are very different in what they're trying to achieve and both have a place, which in fact, can get combined to give the record a total picture. I see where I made a mistake . While I still stand by my point that Fantano does listen to a whole lot of music and is incapable of digesting all the nuances of a record, I will admit that his purpose is different from Polyphonic. Thank you, Karina, for explaining it to me so well. Cheers.
Shreyas Gune you have a good point that as so much music is consumed, there are bound to be aspects of his reviews in which he falls short. thank you for the reflective and introspective reply, sadly not many people seem capable of re-evaluating set opinions, so you sort of made my day. have a great day:)
This video is SO INFORMATIVE!!!! I will be showing this video to anyone who doesn’t fully understand the backstory.! Thank you!
Wow I never would have ever guessed Twenty One Pilots was this in depth about their music, his flow is still wack though
Audrey Lemberger dude just listen to blurryface an album before trench, you’ll realise there are a lot of hidden messages
Polyphonic the most exciting channel on youtube right now
there's a story?
Neon Gravestones is actually a song connecting to the story. In the Dema Map, there is an are called Necropolis which contains the “Neon Gravestones” of those who have committed suicide. The Bishops glorify suicide as a better way to go out to escape from Dema. Now it’s fair that you haven’t realized this because it’s apart of future lore from when this video was posted. But it’s because the Bishops use necromancy as a way to take control, meaning they want more dead bodies to use for necromancy.