Crossing the Boundaries of Classical Music | T M Krishna | Vikku Vinayakram | KLF 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.พ. 2024
- 12/01/2024 KLF DAY 2 - EZHUTHOLA
Crossing the Boundaries of Classical Music
Speakers: T M Krishna, Vikku Vinayakram
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I did my P. U. C in Vivekananda College 1969-70. During one of the alumni meetings i attended, TMK was there as an alumnus. He was busy being one of the organizers. This was around two decades ago when he was a young lad. I found him to be brilliant yet humble. I was shocked to learn about the recent unpleasant incident which i could not imagine. He and his parents were involved in charitable activities especially to the poor and the downtrodden. I feel things can be sorted out amicably by discussion. I lived in Triplicane from 1992 to 1997 when i used to see Vikku Vinayak Ram sir going out of his house in his car, many times. This discussion was enlightening and informative. 57:51
One of the best session.
Legendary Vikkuji and Legendary TMK.
Very interesting.
I was a student of Vikkuji and his father way back in 1968.
I always cherish those golden days
A profound session indeed. On the track of ‘who am I’
Thank you Vikku Sir and T M Krishna for this very interesting session. I learnt so much from you both. Thank you once again. 🙏
at 27 min mark while I am typing this . Enjoying every second of this beautiful conversation :)
I really like and it is truly incredible of TMK for recognising , acknowledging and giving equal footage to pakkavadyams and upa pakkavadyams. Seeing him many popular artistes of the present day have started doing this style not to be left behind in the present day scenario.
Very interesting interview and interpretation by TMK.
TMK's focus is on politics rather than music...intently making comments and controversy with the goal of 'insulting'... politics is his first love..
Enlightening.excellent and transparent dialogue about the classical music world.
The last question was very good. I understood that T. M. Krishna sir has the inquisitiveness, the open ness to give an receive knowledge and that is what carries him... And also It was a great learning experience from Vikku Vinayakram sir... He is so cutee 😊and also i felt he is a copy of Krishna sir... The way sir handled the whole session was just a blessing to watch. Keep inspiring us Sir... 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 kodi namaskarams to both of you... And all the best to vinayak sir's grandson too.
You said it rightly...T.M Krishna's openess
Precious ❤
Appa Vikku vinayakram ji.. ❤️🥰😍great great exponent and transformist of Ghatam in carnatic music🙏🙏🙏kodi kodi sastangapranam ji.. TMK always special... Love love..
wonderful session
Was waiting eagerly for this session to get posted.... Thank you❤❤❤
Beautiful session
I was also astudent of Vikkuji and his father way back in 1969
പണ്ട് അങ്ങനെയൊക്കെ ആയിന്നു. ഇപ്പോൾ അതൊക്കെ മാറി എല്ലാ പക്കവാദ്യങ്ങൾക്കും അതിൻ്റെ തായ പ്രസക്തി വന്നു. മനോധർമ്മത്തിൽ മൃദംഗം ഗായകനെ അനുഗമിക്കുമ്പോൾ ഘടം വയലിനോടൊപ്പം വായിക്കുന്നു, തനിയാവർത്തനം ഇരു വാദ്യങ്ങളും ചേർന്ന് അതിമനോഹരമാക്കുന്നു. കൃതി ആലപിക്കുമ്പോൾ എല്ലാവാദ്യങ്ങളും സമുചിതമായി സമ്മേളിക്കുന്നു. ഇങ്ങനെ ഓരോ വദ്യത്തിൻ്റെയും സാധ്യതകളും, അത് ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്ന, യശ:ശരീരനായ റ്റി.വി. വാസൻ സാറിനെപ്പോലുള്ള അസാമാന്യ പ്രതിഭകളുടെ കഴിവിനെയും കണക്കിലെടുത്ത് ഓരോ കച്ചേരിയും എത്രമേൽ മനോഹരമാക്കാം എന്നത് സംബന്ധിച്ചുള്ള നിർവ്യാജമായ അന്വേഷണങ്ങളാണ് ഈരംഗത്ത് ഇത്തരം മാറ്റങ്ങൾ കൊണ്ടുവന്നത്, അല്ലാതെ വലിയ വായയ്ക്ക് വായടിത്തം വിളമ്പിക്കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്ന ഒരു റബലിൻ്റെ ജല്പനം കൊണ്ടല്ല. ഇപ്പോൾ തീരെ പ്രസക്തിയില്ലാത്ത ഈ വിഷയങ്ങളെല്ലാം ഇട്ടലക്കുന്നത് ഒരുതരം തരംതാണ ചിന്താഗതിയാണ്.
സത്യം പറയുമ്പോൾ എന്തിന് വേവലാധിപ്പെടുന്നു.
🎉🎉👏💐💐
മഹാപുണ്യം വിക്കുജി, കൃഷ്ണ ഇവർക്കൊക്കെ ഒപ്പം ഇരിക്കാനും കേൾക്കാനും കഴിയുന്നതിൽ.. മഹാപുണ്യം ❤❤❤❤
What a great guy!
Excellent and interesting , TMK is extraordinary like Vikku , however TMK brings out the greatness’s and it’s all hardwork combined with talent that brings them to exemplary levels . Vikku is down to earth and no ego and could cross boundaries in a very early stage, mingling with finest of musicians and teamwork. TMK also has groomed lot of talent and brought them to the forefront and on stage as well
Vikku Sir, you reaffirmed my belief that we should have confidence in ourselves and be ourselves and not change for others. We should learn everyday and be excited about life. Thank you 🙏
👌🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤🌷
Delightful and highly educative for understanding aesthetics.
Vicky is so cool I love this guy
This is monologue of Mr Krishna than about the legendary artist Mr. VIKKU.
Must watch -- Mischievous Happenings in the Music World - Chitravina Ravikiran, Prof Desiraju, Ranjani Vasuki, V Raman th-cam.com/video/jGlKiOnZk0s/w-d-xo.html
YM Krishna a human being. Salute
Good discussion
I still feel the person with tambura should at least be mentioned and introduced.
Till today i don't see any artist saying their name on stage though the Sruthi is being provided continuously throughout the kacheri
Even the mike technicians need credit.
jeesusine crucify cheyyaaan order itta mahaante photo back groundil cach kond...xmas carol paaadalle...
T.M. Krishna an attempt to pin point the problem in the Carnatic system has mixed validations. Carnatic still is a patriarchal system so as any other domain. It's needs a broad discussion in general about inclusive of every caste and gender. His criticism about the system is justified but the way he attacks the system is not right. The whole Carnatic community doesn't plan to keep the system unto themselves and it just evolves organically. The question is everybody asks apart from being a sharp critic but has he done anything to bring other people into this community and adopt an all inclusive approach? Every supporter of TMK will dismiss this as an immature question and will trumpet they don't understand the basics of what TMK is attacking. Another question is why Carnatic music has to be given so much importance ? Every caste and community have their own art form. The brahmin community never criticizes or prevent anyone coming into this system and they just remain to themselves and they don't make loud noises. It's a small community of connoisseurs just enjoying and practice this art unto themselves. I don't know why other community have to feel inferior about it.
Amazing analysis, thank you
Agree. ❤❤ thanks for speaking my mind.
தமிழ்நாடு முதலமைச்சர் அவர்கள் போற்றுதலுக்குரிய பாடகர் அண்ணன் டி எம் கிருஷ்ணா அவர்களுக்கு மேலும் ஒரு விருதினை இந்த சமயத்தில் சந்தர்ப்பத்தில் வழங்கி எதிரிகளின் வாயடைக்க வேண்டும் என்று விருப்பத்தினை பதிவு செய்ய விரும்புகிறேன் நன்றி வணக்கம்
S balachander🙏🙏🙏
T.M Krishna you are done
We know the ajnda of DC Books and TM Krishna and the left. T G Mohandas Sir did a video on this. Great Mridanga Vidwan Viku Vinayak was translated by T M Krishna in such a way that people get a different idea of what he said
oh man! good for you. now go and do something about it. it would be fun to watch.
Must watch -- Mischievous Happenings in the Music World - Chitravina Ravikiran, Prof Desiraju, Ranjani Vasuki, V Raman th-cam.com/video/jGlKiOnZk0s/w-d-xo.html
Twisting Vikku mama's words to suit his agenda...
Shutup
Do watch: TM Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
@@raji6803 thank you. Same to you
he's trying to create controversy for no reason at all by turning & twisting his words ; for that , he made Viggo sir an innocent victim ; this man called T M krishna is totally jobless & is dying to get some attention ; pl save our carnatic music from such dangerous specimens 😭
So why are respected musicians returning the Sangeeta Kalanidhi award after Krishna award was announced for Krishna? What offense did Krishna done? He must have done some grave mistake, if you ask me. That is my take on this.
Carnatic music spread by setting up music college
It is silly argument to say all should be given equal time on stage. Even in western music orchestra , The conductor tells who needs to play music at a time based on his composition. In carnatic music it is the singer does the conductor role. it is as simple as this. Even in drama, movie all will not get same amount of time to play . If no hero or heroine or leader based on story then there is no story to tell. it is basic common sense of art . Funny to hear famous legends talk about equal opportunity for each player like communists saying sweeper should be given same salary and time and ac room as of person as that of country president.
In Kerala no such patriarchal prejudice exist. Irrespective of gender we respect musicians. Krishna need not splash that mud upon us.
Ennaya solla vara.....TMK is carnatic music kamal haasan....not very clear ..confuses the audience:)
Do you understand English?
TM Krishna conveniently translates. why did he drop the line where Vikku says nobody but God can destroy or defeat Ghatam.
Must watch --: Mischievous Happenings in the Music World - Chitravina Ravikiran, Prof Desiraju, Ranjani Vasuki, V Raman th-cam.com/video/jGlKiOnZk0s/w-d-xo.html
VIKKU is a great gadam player; no doubt; but in a 2.5hrs concert, upa pakavadyam has only a minor role to embellish the concert where the major roles are played by singer,violinist and mrudangam. hence should be happy with the minor role offered and try to do the best in that role. TMK is trying to divide the musicians on stage and put poison in the minds of the listeners on discrimination of upa pakavadyams, female artists where none exist accordong to many artists, He is also goading Vikku to speak in the miscievious direction set by TMK. hence i don't appreciate the points discussed in this interview.
TMK was, is always does baseless discussions & arguments, basically headlong.
Who is tm krishna 😂 he has his own agenda
Must watch -- TM Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
Rubbish
But a totally disingenuous thesis, here. Certain musical instruments, not part of the the orthodoxy, do have to wait till masters emerge in it. An example is the clarinet in Western orchestra: only after Mozart wrote the famous concertos for this instrument, did it become part of the orchestra. A more famous example is the double bass, even now hardly much used. The Madras Academy was dominant only in Chennai, because it was truly urban, brought about by the British, and promoting the Brahmans for their clerks, And it controlled by certain Brahman sub castes, Chembai being not a part of the these sub-caste groups, was excluded, being of a small minority sub-caste group, visibly so, as he wore his kudumi to the front of the head for one thing and being from Kerala. Aalangudi Ramachandran, the Ghatom master also belonged to this minority sub-caste, was long discriminated, on similar grounds, although from the Tamil country proper: perhaps his real reason for wanting recognition, This internal caste politics among Brahmans was real, but it is also natural, not just here, but universal. The rivalry between the Italians and Germans is well-known, and is usually ignored, with real masters emerging in German music. But music eventually succeeds, every where. Chembai's patronage of Yesudas, a Christian, is a remarkable example and it is unclear how Chembai accomplished this living in in an exclusivist agraharam, into which Yesudas could not even enter in those times. And Yesudas himself recalls how the Chembai Swami failed in getting him to sing in Guruvayur, but not with animus and the TMK's extra-musical agenda. That life should fair is really a woke illusion; it never is--Krishna's quixotism notwithstanding. I mean, his concert for the fisherfolk of Chennai beaches, while admirable, is hardly viable as serious music. It is just exhibitionism. Otherwise, why only once? Has he ever repeated it? Can he make a living by it? More important, can he cultivate his talent and genius by singing for the fisherfolk? He needs to face his true peers for that. But all of this is just a minor storm in a tea cup. The world of art is elitist by nature and it is ruthless. And unequal.
Yes I agree.
TMK exhibits his narrow mindedness and bigotry by not accurately translating
இதுவரை ஒரு தாழ்தப்பட்டவருக்குக்கூட இசை பயிற்றுவித்து மேடையேற்றவில்லை என்பது உண்மை. மாறாக இவரிடம் படித்தவர்கள் அனைவரும் பார்பனர்கள் அல்லது வெளிநாட்டவர்கள் தான்.
கிருஷ்ணா வருடத்துக்கு ஒருமுறை ஆல்காட் குப்பத்தில் இசைக்கச்சேரி நிகழ்த்துவதல் இசையைப் பரப்பமுடியுமா?
TM krishana is very arrogant. He wants cheap publicity by criticise every thing and any thing. It is better to confine to music.
Do watch: TM Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
It is one way of getting publishity or begging, shame on yourself Mr. Krishna. First change your name. Don't use the word Krishna
T m krishna is a big liar 😂
He has agenda
Must watch -- TM Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
This T M Krishna is a hypocrite. He is not at all in the group of leading singers..
@wizardofb9434 ok. So don't listen to him. Big deal.
Do watch : TM Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
@@chintamanic8724 Thanks for the link. What's Carnatic music without devotion?
And are you a singer? Or are you just an joke!
@@anilvarughese-hw3ez I don't reply to schmucks...
T M Krishna is a joke. A cheap one at that.
. Waste
Do watch: T M Krishna: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
Quite ordinary.. Not too many insights. Answers you get are only as good as the questions you pose!!
Tm Krishna a dirty person to make himself popular, talking bad about other scholars, ms amma need have brahminical identity to succeed in her music life, before she married sadasivam, she was very popular as singer and actress, if you have stage and Mike it doesn't mean you can talk anything in public, everything should be discussed as he told, if he wish to become popular will he blame others, if you a civilized person you will not talk bad of other scholars, you can tell us about what you got from thiruma and dk group, in future if you wish to get more popularity take off your cloths and dance on middle of Street, you will become more popular within new mins, this is our humble suggestion tmk all the best for your dramma , there is no meaning in the award you got for cheap popularity ,
@ramasubramanian4767, "Brahminical" identity. And what is that? Self claimed superiority. Utter trash and rubbish. The Brahminical thinking is a mode of denying people rights. Appropriation and discrimination is at the core of Brahminical thinking. That needs to be discarded. It is ugly and utterly dehumanising.
Do watch: T M Krishna -: The Far Left Assault on Carnatic Classical Music - Sandeep Balakrishna th-cam.com/video/owRNvK3U1Ow/w-d-xo.html
@@chintamanic8724 Sandeep Balkrishna represents the Mylapore Mandarins who are very uncomfortable with changing of the guard or status quo. As simple as that.
Good heart only give good art