A deep dive into lifeboat 7 would no doubt also be very interesting. The first lifeboat launched. They would have been watching the sinking for the longest period of time from a distance. They would have been some of the first passengers that realized the ship was in trouble. They would have gone from a bunch of cranky people annoyed that they were being loaded into a lifeboat in the middle of the night, to realizing the ship was genuinely sinking, to watching the chaos.
@@samanthab1923 there is a passenger list of who was on that boat, yes. Not really a who's who of Titanic passengers. But being the first lifeboat in the water I'd think there's an interesting story there.
Hearing that recreation of Capt.Smith ordering the boats to come back is so chilling. It must have been incredibly desperating for him to see how the boats didn't follow his orders. RIP Capt. Smith.
It seems like the Captain should have done drills with the crew to practice lowering the lifeboats and to specifically drive home the obvious point that NONE should be launched not full or even or a over if the boat could hold them. Being crowded is hardly a big deal if it means more people lived.
@@marniekilbourne608 I doubt they had any idea the lifeboats would even be used, let alone have those issues to deal with. This was the safest ship in the world remember. So they thought.
I don't think it just got louder by the people yelling for help. No doubt that seeing the flares mean that many may have tried to swim to the light, thinking there was a larger ship there,and yelling for help at the same time, but the cold got to them first before they got to Boxhall's lifeboat and realized the error. The flares, in a sense, may have acted as moths to a zapper.
Boxhall's flares ultimately saved the lives of all those in the boats by attracting the attention of the Carpathia (the ship that picked up the survivors) I know how harrowing that false sense of hope must be, but at least the same flares saved 700-800 people.
I was in the same lifeboat I fell into the life raft while doing a jitterbug dance on the deck I broke my ankle on the fall and captain smith gave it a rub that was the last time I seen him😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
What I found especially informative was Boxhall and Rostron's convo at the end. This is my first time learning about it and man it's so heart wrenching :(
Splendid documentary that was emotionally charged without being the least bit theatrical. Hearing the voice of Boxall was truly remarkable. One can only imagine the psychological scars.
Out of all the lifeboats, i think Lifeboat 2 really had the most dramatic moments, it was so close to the ship during the sinking since they still rounded the stern area around 2AM, and really amazes me what they could have seen, like the break up and the final moments, i wonder till this day what it could be like on that Lifeboat during that time, and this video just gives you everything, nice video!
All the lifeboats had dramatic moments - Lifeboat 5's falls being lowered too quickly and slanting to one side, Collapsible C scraping against the hull, Lifeboat 11 lowering into the pump discharge and flooding, Lifeboat 13 nearly being crushed by 15, Lifeboat 14 nearly being overtaken by people on A-Deck, and Lowe having to fire his gun into the air, Lifeboat 16 lowering to the second class promenade to load, Collapsible D being the last lifeboat to launch and only feet from the water when it was lowered, with three men jumping aboard, Lifeboat 4 being lowered to A Deck and abandoned until the water was one deck below, with rich and famous women climbing in through the windows, Lifeboat 6 with Molly Brown and only one sailor aboard, and the "I'm in charge of this boat madam NOW ROW" with Hitchens, Lifeboat 8 with it's "let's row 3 miles" idea, and Lifeboat 10 with the woman falling between the lifeboat and the ship. And of course Collapsible B (upside down, swimmers clambering onto it's back) and Collapsible A (half-flooded, swimmers climbed on)
Can u imagine if the boat would ha e been near the break when it broke? It would have sucked the boat right back into the wreck. Just thinking about that is a nightmare
I hope you'll make a series out of this. I'm absolutely flabbergasted with these facts and the storytelling is just..... Exquisite on a whole different level.
Wow, after watching this, Titanic seems more real in way. Its hard to imagine an event that happened 109 years ago, but its easier to imagine with videos like these. Thanks a lot for making these videos tom, I really appreciate it.
I've been a Titanic buff since the age of ten, when I saw A Night to Remember and then got the book, followed by an extensive library. At this point, it plays out in my head and appears in dreams.
@@erynlasgalen1949 yeah, about the same for me. Probably a past life experience. I had very specific things come up that shocked me when I had a regression about 30 years ago, nothing I had read. The naysayers can say hooey but they haven't experienced these things the way some of us have, so, hooey back on naysayers anonymous. For instance, when I saw Cameron's atrocity, I was laughing my way through it while naturally admiring the ship and settings when all the sudden, during THAT scene where someone looks down the stairwell and sees a fast-rising green water level, I burst into pretty much constant sobbing at that point. Not scientific proof that some require but once again, hooey on them. Something's going on there.
At 8:45 I had a sudden sense of unease - unease at being in a small open boat in the middle of a pitch-black, freezing ocean. Yes the sea was calm, but that was an extremely rare calm. By morning, the sea was back to normal waves. Everyone would have known they wouldn't stand a chance in the rough seas the unpredictable North Atlantic could present at any time. I could suddenly imagine how scary it would be to leave the ship, and row away into the unknown with no food, seeing your 'safety', the big warm Titanic, sinking and soon to leave you alone in the sea.
The 'emergency boats' were cutters. Returning to the wreck site after marshalling boats and transferring passengers, Fifth Officer Lowe raised the sail and tacked back toward the disaster zone. Few living persons were recovered but it was a beautiful try. Lowe himself admitted that he waited too long to return, underestimating the fatal power of 28 degree water.
@@beserker1912 If every boat close would have come back, they could have save maybe 10 more, an in this case every passenger more that could be save, imagine what that would mean to their families.
This is exactly how I imagined the Titanic broke apart and nobody has simulated this until now. This reminds me of Ken Marschall's painting of the breakup.
@@pjflintstone9310giving unsolicited and destructive criticism shows your rudeness. Please grow up and try some tact, then maybe people will take YOU seriously.
Thank you for a very interesting documentary! I have reseached Mahala Douglas closely, and have some extra bits information you might find curious: Mrs. Douglas' niece, Ellen Douglas Williamson, in her book "When We Went First Class" remembered: "Mahala said her lifeboat was near enough even to hear things like china crashing as well as deeper rumbles of all the machinery." On-board the lifeboat Mrs Douglas ended up operating the tiller; Boxhall said: "There was a lady there whom I asked to steer the boat according to my orders. I asked her to pull the tiller toward her or away. Mrs. Douglas, and she assisted me greatly in doing that." (US Inquiry) After the disaster and the loss of her husband (who she loved dearly) she enjoyed a very colorful life, regaling such people as Walt Disney, Alice Toklas, Gertrude Stein, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Frank Knox and Frank Kellogg with stories of her survival of the sinking and extensive travels. I suggest checking out her Encyclopedia Titanica biography. A very fascinating person.
Fascinating! I had a customer whose father was on board the Carpathia that night. He was only 5 years old but distinctly remembered picking up the survivors !
You guys should totally show the final break up and plunge from each lifeboat so we could actually see what angle and what point of break up the people actually saw. After reading the stories it would be interesting to see from their point of view. Just an idea, I think it would be interesting.
Everything related to the sinking is tragic, but in particular it’s difficult to accept that hundreds needlessly perished and could have been saved had the lifeboats been filled to capacity. Hearing Boxhall’s first-hand account to Captain Rostron was a surprisingly emotional experience.
WOW! What a fantastically informative and riveting video. I have paddled an Inuit (Eskimo) style kayak on Lake Ontario on a moonless night when the water was millpond smooth. If you just stop it can get very disorienting very quickly as you can NOT tell where the sky ends and the water begins. There is no horizon line. You can quickly become so disoriented that you feel as though you are floating in the air. Some people who've experienced such conditions, actually tip their kayak over because they're totally disoriented as to what's up or down. I do wonder if those in any of the lifeboats that night experienced that same sense of disorientation.
Thank you for your presentation. I met and spoke briefly with a man who said he had survived the Titanic sinking. He was in a nursing home and the nurses coroberated his story. It's only today nearly 40 years ago that I can grasp a little more of the nightmare that this event must have been.
I’ve actually visited Hichens grave! He’s buried at Trinity Cemetery in Aberdeen (Scotland), he was in a paupers grave until his family were able to identify his grave a few generations later, so he was only reburied with a proper gravestone a few years ago, by his Great-Granddaughter. After the Titanic he dealt with lots of shame and was seen as unlucky at sea, he was described as “the man who sunk the titanic” and called a coward for refusing to turn Lifeboat 6 around to rescue more passengers, these stuck with him for life.
He deserve part of it, because he hear the Capitan, but sometimes these events heroes and "villains" can appear, some become brave and those who out of fear only think of saving themselves
I loved this, I always just assumed that every lifeboat rowed away from the ship as soon as they could and that they all either ignored or didn't hear Captain Smith's order to return. Hoping you consider doing a lifeboat series, covering each of the Titanic's lifeboats individually and each of the boats' stories. Something like that would be extremely interesting, we all know the story of the Titanic, but what about the stories of her lifeboats?
I agree, I always thought this is something that hasn't been covered enough. Not so much the factual information (like the timings and the lifeboat numbers, who was in what boat etc) but more the personal, emotional accounts of what the people in the lifeboats went through until the Carpathia arrived.
This is a very informative video on the events surrounding lifeboat #2 and a excellent start to a new series of videos. Great work J.Kent Layton, Tom, Levi, Mike, and the rest of the On a Sea of Glass authors. I also enjoyed the additional shots from the animation that weren't in the final cut of the published video!
It's nice to see you guys focusing on specifics like this. There is another TH-camr who does this as well: Historic Travels. It appears the he cares about researching the history of Titanic just as much as you guys. Would be awesome for you guys to collaborate. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate the Historic Travels channel. I also don’t think it’s fair to judge him like he was but that’s just my opinion. I respectfully disagree with the person above me.
It's such a sharp reality. I had no idea passengers and crew hadn't taken the sinking of Titanic seriously... My God! So many more lives could have been saved.
And, because of a coal strike in Britain at the time and because April was still off-season, the Titanic was only two-thirds full. So, how much worse could it all have been if she'd been fully booked....
Having been on the SS Norway as a crew member when the boiler exploded last, the chaos and emotions running through everyone and the things I saw in crew areas. I can’t imagine hearing the cries for help. I don’t think I could live with myself knowing there was room for more people in a lifeboat.
As Lightoller pointed out, floating capacity is different from lowering capacity, and the officers had not been told of the tests that had been done. Passengers were not eager to leave the 'unsinkable ship in the beginning and the ship was the size of two city blocks. Often there were truly no passengers near when the boats came to be lowered. Light older was doing the full Birkenhead protocol of women and children only, even having an argument with Ryerson about his thirteen year old son being allowed to board. I don't know if he ever came to regret it. Survivor guilt is a bitch, but you go on living.
@@erynlasgalen1949 I'm sure he did regret it, however the situation with the boats was a disaster waiting to happen (and infact it had happened before with other liners lost with all hands) it's actually quite horrendous how long it took to sort out the SOLAS regs.
the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats she was carrying 3000 passengers but not enough lifeboats to save all the people and when she went down its known that some of the lifeboats were on half full or had only 4 or 5 people in it.
Even if someone had a packed lifeboat and knew there was literally nothing more they could have done, the tragedy of all this would fill anyone with regret
I do not think anyone knows how they will truly behave in a disaster such as this What is said when all is calm is different then when you say when you see your life is about to end
Judging distance is extremely difficult when there are few common objects in view, at night, at sea,, and on water. With all these factors in play at once, it would be utterly impossible to know how far away they actually were. Several factors come into play when you try to judge how far away something might be. Air clarity, the apparent size of objects in your field of view, and light levels all play important rolls in your judgment. If you have ever been to a desert, objects look much closer than they really are because the low humidity makes the air much clearer. The astronauts on the moon had the same issue.
The difference between Mr Kink and the other guy was that Kink did it for his family not his money. And he waited until the end to sneak on when it was already going to be launched undermanned. And he was the one on main oars in a boat that made somewhat of an attempt to save people and the boat that alerted the Carpathia
I never tire of hearing about what happened aboard the Titanic. But I never fail to feel so much sadness for those who died there that night. The tragedy is is just heart rending for me. RIP 🙏 poor souls.
I think it’s just crazy how over 100yrs later we are still finding more about the titanic. Just imagine those who perished would have thought, to know that over 100yrs later, we still remember them.....
It's crazy to know that within the big story of the titanic, there are so many other stories that happened within that night - such as the men who gave their lives to keep the lights on
went looking for other lifeboat stories but I see this is your first one, hoping you have motivation to continue to create more content like this. very interesting.
Fascinating in-depth look at the tragic events that unfolded that night. I just discovered your channel and I’m thoroughly impressed by the amount of detail and research that goes into your videos. You’ve definitely got a new sub:)
No one seems to know much about him he's once been called "the enigma of the night" It is believed that he might've been the one who took his life that night.
This is great content! Can't wait for more videos that focus on specific stories within the sinking like this! I love that we'll possibly be getting POVs of the sinking from varying locations 👌👏
I find it amazing how much detail you add to each of your stories. It's evident that there is love in your work. Thank you for what you do. All of these stories are so interesting. I found your channel an hour ago and I'm enjoying story after story.
This is great content! Well researched and told by people who know what they're talking about. It would be such an awesome series to have some more of the lifeboat's stories worked out like this. Keep it up!
My great grandfather Albert Horswill was on cutter lifeboat number one. Cosmo Duff Gordon was cruelly accused of bribing Albert and six other crewmen to avoid picking up passengers when it was merely a kind gesture to compensate the men for lost wages. Tom Lynskey has been very vocal in past videos and live-streams that this treatment of the lifeboat 1 occupants, especially the Duff Gordons, was unfair and mean spirited.
Thank you very much, Tom! 👏🏻 Always great to learn even more about the Titanic from your research. I’m looking forward to more of these detailed videos here. 👍🏻
It's so sad and frustrating to think about how many people just missed getting onto lifeboats. Many of the boats were lowered with the belief they could stop at A deck and more people could board but so many people were confused and didn't know where to go, so there were huge crowds left helpless at spots where boats had already launched and lowered, and so few at the spots where boats actually were. Or in some cases a lot of folks didn't really grasp how serious the situation was until it was too late.
That segment 'He shouted, "My God! They've all gone down with her!" -' that part got me. The realisation of this groundbreaking invention had helplessly vanished beneath the icy waves, taking hundreds down with her, along with such amazing technology and brilliant interiors. A horrific event, such awful details like the vessel splitting into 4- and the imagery of boilers exploding as helpless Countess' and lord- along with immigrants and helpless children screaming as they are plunged into such awful conditions. That ship was doomed from the start. God rest their souls.
Fantastic additional information. Each time the ship there are more facts, especially in visual form Titanic & the passengers becomes more real to me after a 55 year fascination starting at 9 years old.
Yeah. That's because the breakup was FAR more violent and messy than is usually shown. The evidence is pretty clear on that. We're hoping to bring you more about the breakup.
Massively looking forward to more videos in this style! Focussing in on a specific topic is such a great way to learn in detail and it's so fascinating! Already ready for more!!
For the first time I sense that I've seen this happen from a real point of view - that of a survivor in a boat! And the ropes hanging off the side of the ship were a nice touch, I'm sure Cameron is kicking himself on that as I don't think he portrayed them. Do more!
It's an awesome book. I read a little bit while on lunch at work. I keep it in my locker. A few people I work with got their own copies after taking a look at mine. (Jan Griffiths).
Thank you for this documentary. I Thought I had heard all there was available about the Titanic but never heard this story. How truly tragic and frightening it must have been.
So many cases of bravery and cowardice. The Titanic fascinates us because it is such a human event. It showcases the very best and the very worst of humanity, all at the same time. The most majestic and beautiful of ships, made by the peak of human craftsmanship and ingenuity, sunk into the deepest part of the Atlantic on her maiden voyage because of equally human greed. Meanwhile, there are countless stories telling the bravery of so many people who sacrificed themselves for others, in the face of utmost terror and danger; while others stood by and selfishly allowed others to die, only to save themselves. The Carpathian, racing to save the survivors, almost hitting an iceberg herself and never running properly again, so determined were her crew to get there in time - only to be met by a sea of bodies and a ship nowhere to be found on that dark, moonless night. It is a haunting tale, and I personally believe that it will continue to evoke deep feelings within us many centuries from now. The very best, and the very worst, of humanity, all in one ship, one disaster, one night. All now dragged into the past. Into the abyss. Haunting us forever.
Fascinating video! I'm so interested in all things Titanic! My sister-in-law had relatives aboard Titanic. In fact, in the film, when Jack climbed up to 1st Class and stole a coat, it was later stated that the coat belonged to a Mr. Ryerson. That was the name of my sister-in-law's relative. I believe her surviving relatives escaped on Lifeboat #4, which I believe is the one that was lowered very crookedly.
As I recall, the night Titanic sank there was no moon. Once the ship went down, there would have been very little light with which to judge distance or location. So no small wonder the officer in charge, Boxhall, was inaccurate to his location and where the other life boats were.
11:43 Hitchens was at the helm when the collison with the iceberg happened. He was standing there when Thomas Andrews announced the ship had an hour, maybe more, before foundering. He knew the ship was going to sink. I think he was in shock. His behaviour was revolting, but like I said, I believe he was in shock. He was also more than likely fearful of the suction that he thought would be caused then the vessel foundered.
I ordered and just got done reading Charles Lightollers autobiography " Titanic and other ships" he gives a very detailed account of his service on Titanic and the sinking. Well written and a fascinating account of his life at sea. Men in those days were made of steel.....
It is Such a pleasure to watch your Videos and listen to your narration. I started with the intent of telling you that it is such a pleasure to Listen to a Narrator with splendid diction, lexicon and clarity of thought, as opposed to what one normally is subject to, too frequently on this forum of social media. You sound like an Historian; You must have studied these areas. Thanking you for your efforts, I bid thee Farewell From Newfoundland. Hail Fellow Well Met!
Nice. One thing that is missing from the get-go, though, is an orientation of the boat numbers and their locations along the length of the ship so the average person knows what these numbers mean. I simple plan view of the boat deck with numbers appearing as their number is mentioned would suffice. This would help everyone picture where everything is without having to pull things up from either memory or other references (Maybe you address this at some point, but, if so, seems to me more emphasis is needed in this video right from the start. I know a lot about the Titanic and have done a lot of restorations on some of the film's big models, but even I have a bit of a hard time instantly recalling where things are (wish I had more of a photographic memory, but I never have had that!--more like a phonographic memory...that is, one with a lot of scratches and skips!) But thanks for all these videos. Hope the comment isn't taken too harshly. I know how much work goes into these. I can't watch everything you've done, unfortunately. Thanks again.
I have a feeling Boxhall's later testimonies was the correct one. You see in reality this is more heart breaking than you think. Back then fresh off the tragedy, public eye towards the officers and several people who participated on the rescue of the ship wreck were either seen as heroes or seen as horrible people depending on their actions. If Boxhall may had wanted to rescue the people on those doors but if he got too close to the boat he may had been trapped by the current the ship had while it was sinking, he took that sacrifice to assure the passengers on the lifeboat survived. Of course back then, people would've most likely jumped into conclusions so far and he could've been hated for the entirety of his life, imagine living with that stored in your memory for so long that it slowly eats you away but if you commented it to officials you could've been hated your entire life
My father watched the launching of the Titanic here in northern-ireland my grandson was able to bring this information to a project the class where doing on the history of the Titanic. They where so amazed that his great grandfather had been there at the launching.
This is just so sad and just like horrifying to hear. I can’t imagine the PTSD these people must have had after this experience especially someone like Boxhall who deliberately decides not to pick up passengers and just let them die and hear their screams. Since they are afraid of be swamped and sunk in the life boat. The horror is just to much to even want to imagine.
Those generations weren't weak, whiners like this day. They moved on, stuff happens. PTSD is so over-diagnosed, war veterans and violent crime survivors, everyone else just wants excuses
@@williamrogers7974 That's a disgusting attitude, shame on you. That you should be so blessed to have never suffered trauma that has affected you profoundly and yet you use it as ammunition to dismiss others suffering. Appalling.
collapsible B had people dying around them, trying to swamp the overturned boat but got rejected because it was already full, unlikely the other boats could have been swamped
The white star company took advantage of the PTSD the victims had. They made the people sign contracts saying that they couldn't sue while mentally ill. The aftercare of the victims is appalling but that's how corporations run without regulations
@@skullsaintdead people definitely dealt with more hardship back then, and thus would not be as susceptible to trauma as we are now, and PTSD is over diagnosed. It's not an attitude, they're facts. There are literally people diagnosed with PTSD after a breakup. I would say being on the Titanic and surviving would definitely be traumatic and stressful, and definitely would not be surprised if many of the survivors had PTSD. That being said, everything you lashed out at that person for was correct. The better off we get the weaker we become, it's just fact.
Now I just need a detailed recount or reconstruction of every single thing that happened that night, put on a timeline into a single video. These documentaries are so interesting to me, I can¨t get enough. Especially hearing conversations that the survivors were having at the time.
the captain of the titanic had balls the size of everest, with so many coward captains leaving the sinking ship first, it's very rare to find a boss like Captain Edward Smith
It’s very rare to have a boss like Arthur Henry Rostron too. He sacrificed his good night sleep to make very powerful efforts to get to the Titanic as quickly as possible in order to help them and very efficient preparations to receive 2,200 more people and give them great hospitality.
I wish they would produce an audiobook version of on a sea of glass. Audiobooks are huge now and growing all the time, if they put it on audible it's massive exposure to people who ordinarily would not know about it.
Fascinating video. I'll admit I've never really given much thought to Lifeboat #2, although Boxhall's words about "hundreds and hundreds of people, perhaps a thousand, perhaps more" going down with the ship have always stuck in my mind. I think I was vaguely aware of a lifeboat having gone to one of the gangway doors to try and rescue passengers, but this is the first I've ever heard of there being a "mob" there and Boxhall failing to pick them up. That's haunting, to think that people could have been so close to escaping and yet were left to die. I don't know enough about lifeboat safety to either condemn or acquit Boxhall for his actions, but the emotional side of me can't help but wish he had at least tried, especially since his lifeboat was so empty. Speaking of which, it infuriates me that those stokers and other men were forced out of the boat in the beginning, only to lower it less than half full. Those men could have been saved if the officers weren't so insistent on the "women and children only" mentality. (I guess I can cut them some slack if they were intending to pick up people at A-Deck, and therefore needed room for them, but still - it just boggles the mind to think that so late in the sinking, with little more than half an hour or so before the ship foundered, lifeboats were still being lowered so pitifully empty). Another interesting story I've heard about the loading of Lifeboat 2 is that 9-year old Willie Coutts, one of the few child passengers on board, was initially refused entry because, allegedly, the straw hat he was wearing made him look too old. It was only when his mother refused to go without him that he was let in. I'm not sure about the story's veracity, but for what it's worth, it's mentioned on Encyclopedia Titanica.
One of the good things to come out of this tragedy is now modern day cruises calculate life boat requirements based on the number of people, and no longer on gross tonnage, which in hindsight, sounds like a completely stupid idea to begin with. But at the time, that was the way things were done, and nobody ever felt that Titanic "could" sink. The other thing the Titanic disaster showed us is that nothing is unsinkable and we need to plan for the worst. Ultimately, the sad part about this too is that Capt Smith was due to retire after the maiden voyage, having worked his career and being ready for retirement, only to die literally days before he was to retire from his career as a captain. All that hard work as a seaman only to end in one of the largest, most notable sinkings in maritime history. It's also a little chilling to think about what all those people (in the lifeboats who did survive) saw and how it impacted the rest of their lives. I imagine that for everyone who witnessed the sinking and survived, those images of that night haunted them for the rest of their lives.
TH-cam really wrecks darker videos with compression. Watch this in 4K if you can, and that should make things better!
Dude....nice Stach!!!!
Magnífico video
¿ Podrías hacer algo especial
Sobre el SS " ANTONIA GRAZA "
El trasatlántico de la película
Del 2002 " GHOST SHIP " ?
Tom you really outdid yourself
@@therealjackkennedy Thanks! But this wouldn't have been possible without the rest of the team on this.
Thank you I wish they kept the scene in the titanic movie where CaptainSmith calls to the boat
A deep dive into lifeboat 7 would no doubt also be very interesting. The first lifeboat launched. They would have been watching the sinking for the longest period of time from a distance. They would have been some of the first passengers that realized the ship was in trouble. They would have gone from a bunch of cranky people annoyed that they were being loaded into a lifeboat in the middle of the night, to realizing the ship was genuinely sinking, to watching the chaos.
Any idea who was in number 7?
@@samanthab1923 there is a passenger list of who was on that boat, yes. Not really a who's who of Titanic passengers. But being the first lifeboat in the water I'd think there's an interesting story there.
Jeff Brister Interesting. Thanks
@@samanthab1923 Dorothy Gibson was probably one of the most prominent occupants. She started in the first film about the Titanic.
Eva Hart and her mother were on it. She tells great story about it if you want to watch her interviews
Hearing that recreation of Capt.Smith ordering the boats to come back is so chilling. It must have been incredibly desperating for him to see how the boats didn't follow his orders. RIP Capt. Smith.
There's a deleted scene of the Cameron movie showing that and it's soul crushing.
It seems like the Captain should have done drills with the crew to practice lowering the lifeboats and to specifically drive home the obvious point that NONE should be launched not full or even or a over if the boat could hold them. Being crowded is hardly a big deal if it means more people lived.
@@marniekilbourne608there was supposed to be a drill but the captain cancelled it. This added to the confusion and mayhem.
ITS THE CAPTAIN'S FAULT
@@marniekilbourne608 I doubt they had any idea the lifeboats would even be used, let alone have those issues to deal with. This was the safest ship in the world remember. So they thought.
Just when you think Titanic's story's been told...here comes another chapter of that unforgettable tale.
Osean dog. Ustio forever
Eric Morang even 109 years later she still has plenty of story's to tell .
Nice Osean flag pic
@@zeus28frenzy Ustio and Osea were allies you dingbat. Belka did nothing wrong.
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Wow. I've never read this story about the people in the water getting a false sense of hope from one of Boxhalls flares. How terribly tragic.
Honestly, that’s pretty fucking heartbreaking. The fact that their screams grew louder.... goddamn I can’t even imagine
I don't think it just got louder by the people yelling for help. No doubt that seeing the flares mean that many may have tried to swim to the light, thinking there was a larger ship there,and yelling for help at the same time, but the cold got to them first before they got to Boxhall's lifeboat and realized the error. The flares, in a sense, may have acted as moths to a zapper.
Boxhall's flares ultimately saved the lives of all those in the boats by attracting the attention of the Carpathia (the ship that picked up the survivors) I know how harrowing that false sense of hope must be, but at least the same flares saved 700-800 people.
@@jonathanp89 712 people is the exact number.
@@Maniac61675 Thanks
Both my great grandparents were saved in lifeboat no.7 they were traveling in 1st class and returning from their honeymoon.
do you by any chance know their names?
Names? My great grandfather Albert Horswill was a crewman that was in the other emergency lifeboat, number one, with the Duff Gordons.
That’s amazing
I was in the same lifeboat I fell into the life raft while doing a jitterbug dance on the deck I broke my ankle on the fall and captain smith gave it a rub that was the last time I seen him😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@jhonsmith6614 same. I accidently fell into the boat in the process of pushing women and children overboard.
What I found especially informative was Boxhall and Rostron's convo at the end. This is my first time learning about it and man it's so heart wrenching :(
Hello, it's your name meaning that you're addict to Benedectine Liqueur?
@@SaroShow no it’s a reference to Benedict Cumberbatch and Eddie Redmayne. Two actors I really like
@@beneddiected ok thnks, im a bar tender so I thought about the liqueur, Its really good 😅🍹
@@SaroShow hahah. It’s understandable 👍🏼
Splendid documentary that was emotionally charged without being the least bit theatrical. Hearing the voice of Boxall was truly remarkable. One can only imagine the psychological scars.
Out of all the lifeboats, i think Lifeboat 2 really had the most dramatic moments, it was so close to the ship during the sinking since they still rounded the stern area around 2AM, and really amazes me what they could have seen, like the break up and the final moments, i wonder till this day what it could be like on that Lifeboat during that time, and this video just gives you everything, nice video!
Collapsible D would like a word. A and B for that matter
@@beserker1912 i know, but speaking for how they round the ship is want i want to point out, like they came back for it on the last minutes.
All the lifeboats had dramatic moments - Lifeboat 5's falls being lowered too quickly and slanting to one side, Collapsible C scraping against the hull, Lifeboat 11 lowering into the pump discharge and flooding, Lifeboat 13 nearly being crushed by 15, Lifeboat 14 nearly being overtaken by people on A-Deck, and Lowe having to fire his gun into the air, Lifeboat 16 lowering to the second class promenade to load, Collapsible D being the last lifeboat to launch and only feet from the water when it was lowered, with three men jumping aboard, Lifeboat 4 being lowered to A Deck and abandoned until the water was one deck below, with rich and famous women climbing in through the windows, Lifeboat 6 with Molly Brown and only one sailor aboard, and the "I'm in charge of this boat madam NOW ROW" with Hitchens, Lifeboat 8 with it's "let's row 3 miles" idea, and Lifeboat 10 with the woman falling between the lifeboat and the ship.
And of course Collapsible B (upside down, swimmers clambering onto it's back) and Collapsible A (half-flooded, swimmers climbed on)
@@funbricks1 wow, you’re really knowledgeable. Thanks so much for sharing. Best wishes :-)
Can u imagine if the boat would ha e been near the break when it broke? It would have sucked the boat right back into the wreck. Just thinking about that is a nightmare
I hope you'll make a series out of this. I'm absolutely flabbergasted with these facts and the storytelling is just..... Exquisite on a whole different level.
Agreed
well then, now that you are a Linsky(sp?) fan you MUST watch his real time sinking of the Atlantic. More dramatic than Titanic.
Wow, after watching this, Titanic seems more real in way. Its hard to imagine an event that happened 109 years ago, but its easier to imagine with videos like these. Thanks a lot for making these videos tom, I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Andy!
I've been a Titanic buff since the age of ten, when I saw A Night to Remember and then got the book, followed by an extensive library. At this point, it plays out in my head and appears in dreams.
@@erynlasgalen1949 yeah, about the same for me. Probably a past life experience. I had very specific things come up that shocked me when I had a regression about 30 years ago, nothing I had read. The naysayers can say hooey but they haven't experienced these things the way some of us have, so, hooey back on naysayers anonymous. For instance, when I saw Cameron's atrocity, I was laughing my way through it while naturally admiring the ship and settings when all the sudden, during THAT scene where someone looks down the stairwell and sees a fast-rising green water level, I burst into pretty much constant sobbing at that point. Not scientific proof that some require but once again, hooey on them. Something's going on there.
@@jonathanp89 Bull crap. He is constantly thanking others involved. Make something else up so we can laugh at you.
At 8:45 I had a sudden sense of unease - unease at being in a small open boat in the middle of a pitch-black, freezing ocean. Yes the sea was calm, but that was an extremely rare calm. By morning, the sea was back to normal waves. Everyone would have known they wouldn't stand a chance in the rough seas the unpredictable North Atlantic could present at any time. I could suddenly imagine how scary it would be to leave the ship, and row away into the unknown with no food, seeing your 'safety', the big warm Titanic, sinking and soon to leave you alone in the sea.
Friend of mine told me they were super-lucky to have that calm sea until the Carpathia came
The 'emergency boats' were cutters. Returning to the wreck site after marshalling boats and transferring passengers, Fifth Officer Lowe raised the sail and tacked back toward the disaster zone. Few living persons were recovered but it was a beautiful try. Lowe himself admitted that he waited too long to return, underestimating the fatal power of 28 degree water.
I don't believe there was much of a chance for him to actually get back to save more, his boat was so far away
@@beserker1912 If every boat close would have come back, they could have save maybe 10 more, an in this case every passenger more that could be save, imagine what that would mean to their families.
I believe Quartermaster Perkis also rowed back on boat 4. He picked up several people if I’m not mistaken. Truly an unsung hero.
This is exactly how I imagined the Titanic broke apart and nobody has simulated this until now. This reminds me of Ken Marschall's painting of the breakup.
Yes! Plus the debris on the sea floor suggests this too
Dude, your ability to tell a story still astounds me. I was captivated the entire time. This is a huge addition to the history of Titanic.
Referring to someone as "Dude" is crass and shows your immaturity. Please grow up and maybe people will start taking you seriously.
@@pjflintstone9310 okay then
@@pjflintstone9310 he could have said "bruh". Lighten up a bit eh.
@@pjflintstone9310giving unsolicited and destructive criticism shows your rudeness. Please grow up and try some tact, then maybe people will take YOU seriously.
Thank you for a very interesting documentary! I have reseached Mahala Douglas closely, and have some extra bits information you might find curious:
Mrs. Douglas' niece, Ellen Douglas Williamson, in her book "When We Went First Class" remembered: "Mahala said her lifeboat was near enough even to hear things like china crashing as well as deeper rumbles of all the machinery."
On-board the lifeboat Mrs Douglas ended up operating the tiller; Boxhall said: "There was a lady there whom I asked to steer the boat according to my orders. I asked her to pull the tiller toward her or away. Mrs. Douglas, and she assisted me greatly in doing that." (US Inquiry)
After the disaster and the loss of her husband (who she loved dearly) she enjoyed a very colorful life, regaling such people as Walt Disney, Alice Toklas, Gertrude Stein, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Frank Knox and Frank Kellogg with stories of her survival of the sinking and extensive travels. I suggest checking out her Encyclopedia Titanica biography. A very fascinating person.
Thanks for your message, Tina!
Thank you Tina!
Fascinating! I had a customer whose father was on board the Carpathia that night. He was only 5 years old but distinctly remembered picking up the survivors !
You had a customer whose father was on board the Carpathia that night ....
You guys should totally show the final break up and plunge from each lifeboat so we could actually see what angle and what point of break up the people actually saw. After reading the stories it would be interesting to see from their point of view. Just an idea, I think it would be interesting.
We've already considered this, it's a good idea actually. :)
@@bruceismay5440 I have seen it but I think this version will be a more detailed look.
Everything related to the sinking is tragic, but in particular it’s difficult to accept that hundreds needlessly perished and could have been saved had the lifeboats been filled to capacity. Hearing Boxhall’s first-hand account to Captain Rostron was a surprisingly emotional experience.
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
The voice over of the captain calling the lifeboats was so damn eerie for me
WOW! What a fantastically informative and riveting video.
I have paddled an Inuit (Eskimo) style kayak on Lake Ontario on a moonless night when the water was millpond smooth. If you just stop it can get very disorienting very quickly as you can NOT tell where the sky ends and the water begins. There is no horizon line. You can quickly become so disoriented that you feel as though you are floating in the air. Some people who've experienced such conditions, actually tip their kayak over because they're totally disoriented as to what's up or down. I do wonder if those in any of the lifeboats that night experienced that same sense of disorientation.
This is a terrifying visual 😳 makes me feel disoriented just imagining it
Thank you for your presentation. I met and spoke briefly with a man who said he had survived the Titanic sinking. He was in a nursing home and the nurses coroberated his story. It's only today nearly 40 years ago that I can grasp a little more of the nightmare that this event must have been.
The view that the people on the boat had of the ship's hull was both beautiful and frightening at the same time.
I’ve actually visited Hichens grave! He’s buried at Trinity Cemetery in Aberdeen (Scotland), he was in a paupers grave until his family were able to identify his grave a few generations later, so he was only reburied with a proper gravestone a few years ago, by his Great-Granddaughter. After the Titanic he dealt with lots of shame and was seen as unlucky at sea, he was described as “the man who sunk the titanic” and called a coward for refusing to turn Lifeboat 6 around to rescue more passengers, these stuck with him for life.
He deserves his shame in this life and the next
He deserve part of it, because he hear the Capitan, but sometimes these events heroes and "villains" can appear, some become brave and those who out of fear only think of saving themselves
I loved this, I always just assumed that every lifeboat rowed away from the ship as soon as they could and that they all either ignored or didn't hear Captain Smith's order to return.
Hoping you consider doing a lifeboat series, covering each of the Titanic's lifeboats individually and each of the boats' stories. Something like that would be extremely interesting, we all know the story of the Titanic, but what about the stories of her lifeboats?
I agree, I always thought this is something that hasn't been covered enough. Not so much the factual information (like the timings and the lifeboat numbers, who was in what boat etc) but more the personal, emotional accounts of what the people in the lifeboats went through until the Carpathia arrived.
This is a very informative video on the events surrounding lifeboat #2 and a excellent start to a new series of videos. Great work J.Kent Layton, Tom, Levi, Mike, and the rest of the On a Sea of Glass authors. I also enjoyed the additional shots from the animation that weren't in the final cut of the published video!
Thank you, Nikki!
Thanks!
It's nice to see you guys focusing on specifics like this. There is another TH-camr who does this as well: Historic Travels. It appears the he cares about researching the history of Titanic just as much as you guys. Would be awesome for you guys to collaborate. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate the Historic Travels channel. I also don’t think it’s fair to judge him like he was but that’s just my opinion. I respectfully disagree with the person above me.
@@cesarlunakimbobby3041 I mean, instead or ridiculing him, go teach him or something.
@@cesarlunakimbobby3041Really? he gets his info from the notorious "On a Sea of Glass"..so then that book is Bs I guess ha?
Historic Travels gets his info from the novel On a Sea of Glass, so I guess that's a bogus novel then ha?
@@cesarlunakimbobby3041 Just curious, why?
Great Video Tom! Well done!
It's such a sharp reality. I had no idea passengers and crew hadn't taken the sinking of Titanic seriously... My God! So many more lives could have been saved.
And, because of a coal strike in Britain at the time and because April was still off-season, the Titanic was only two-thirds full. So, how much worse could it all have been if she'd been fully booked....
Having been on the SS Norway as a crew member when the boiler exploded last, the chaos and emotions running through everyone and the things I saw in crew areas. I can’t imagine hearing the cries for help. I don’t think I could live with myself knowing there was room for more people in a lifeboat.
As Lightoller pointed out, floating capacity is different from lowering capacity, and the officers had not been told of the tests that had been done. Passengers were not eager to leave the 'unsinkable ship in the beginning and the ship was the size of two city blocks. Often there were truly no passengers near when the boats came to be lowered. Light older was doing the full Birkenhead protocol of women and children only, even having an argument with Ryerson about his thirteen year old son being allowed to board. I don't know if he ever came to regret it. Survivor guilt is a bitch, but you go on living.
@@erynlasgalen1949 I'm sure he did regret it, however the situation with the boats was a disaster waiting to happen (and infact it had happened before with other liners lost with all hands) it's actually quite horrendous how long it took to sort out the SOLAS regs.
the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats she was carrying 3000 passengers but not enough lifeboats to save all the people and when she went down its known that some of the lifeboats were on half full or had only 4 or 5 people in it.
Even if someone had a packed lifeboat and knew there was literally nothing more they could have done, the tragedy of all this would fill anyone with regret
I do not think anyone knows how they will truly behave in a disaster such as this What is said when all is calm is different then when you say when you see your life is about to end
Judging distance is extremely difficult when there are few common objects in view, at night, at sea,, and on water. With all these factors in play at once, it would be utterly impossible to know how far away they actually were.
Several factors come into play when you try to judge how far away something might be. Air clarity, the apparent size of objects in your field of view, and light levels all play important rolls in your judgment.
If you have ever been to a desert, objects look much closer than they really are because the low humidity makes the air much clearer.
The astronauts on the moon had the same issue.
The difference between Mr Kink and the other guy was that Kink did it for his family not his money. And he waited until the end to sneak on when it was already going to be launched undermanned. And he was the one on main oars in a boat that made somewhat of an attempt to save people and the boat that alerted the Carpathia
It's crazy to think that Lifeboat 1 could have left with all the people on Lifeboat 2 on board, and still had space for a few more people
I really enjoyed watching this. I'm a massive fan of titanic.
I never tire of hearing about what happened aboard the Titanic. But I never fail to feel so much sadness for those who died there that night. The tragedy is is just heart rending for me. RIP 🙏 poor souls.
I think it’s just crazy how over 100yrs later we are still finding more about the titanic.
Just imagine those who perished would have thought, to know that over 100yrs later, we still remember them.....
It's crazy to know that within the big story of the titanic, there are so many other stories that happened within that night - such as the men who gave their lives to keep the lights on
Honestly I’m a bit over-Titaniced, but this looked interesting. I’m glad I did! Very well done, very professional. Really enjoyed it.
there’s no such thing as being “over-Titaniced” imo ;)
went looking for other lifeboat stories but I see this is your first one, hoping you have motivation to continue to create more content like this. very interesting.
I very much enjoyed this micro-analysis can't wait for more!
19:34 Look closely at the edge of the breakup. You can actually see the "big piece" fly out the side.
attention to detail at it’s finest.
@@DerpyPossum you are everywhere
@@joaquinserrano-armas666 Well, the fact that you would know that means that you, too, are everywhere. Greetings to you, brethren of the interwebs :)
I have just found Part Time explorer today ( 3-14-22) and absolutely love it thank you for such a great channel.
Fascinating in-depth look at the tragic events that unfolded that night. I just discovered your channel and I’m thoroughly impressed by the amount of detail and research that goes into your videos. You’ve definitely got a new sub:)
What is this gem of a channel I found here, I'm in love with the well done content!
Chief Officer Wilde has always been the most intriguing of Titanic's officers to me.
No one seems to know much about him he's once been called "the enigma of the night" It is believed that he might've been the one who took his life that night.
This is great content! Can't wait for more videos that focus on specific stories within the sinking like this! I love that we'll possibly be getting POVs of the sinking from varying locations 👌👏
I find it amazing how much detail you add to each of your stories. It's evident that there is love in your work. Thank you for what you do. All of these stories are so interesting. I found your channel an hour ago and I'm enjoying story after story.
This is great content! Well researched and told by people who know what they're talking about. It would be such an awesome series to have some more of the lifeboat's stories worked out like this. Keep it up!
Fantastic video filled with information!
My great grandfather Albert Horswill was on cutter lifeboat number one. Cosmo Duff Gordon was cruelly accused of bribing Albert and six other crewmen to avoid picking up passengers when it was merely a kind gesture to compensate the men for lost wages. Tom Lynskey has been very vocal in past videos and live-streams that this treatment of the lifeboat 1 occupants, especially the Duff Gordons, was unfair and mean spirited.
I have never found a better channel for Titanic stories
As Titanic month approaches, I’m excited at the possibility that we’ll get more instalments of this series!
Listening with earphones & the background sounds are so ominous. Very well done.
Thank you very much, Tom! 👏🏻 Always great to learn even more about the Titanic from your research. I’m looking forward to more of these detailed videos here. 👍🏻
It's so sad and frustrating to think about how many people just missed getting onto lifeboats. Many of the boats were lowered with the belief they could stop at A deck and more people could board but so many people were confused and didn't know where to go, so there were huge crowds left helpless at spots where boats had already launched and lowered, and so few at the spots where boats actually were. Or in some cases a lot of folks didn't really grasp how serious the situation was until it was too late.
That segment 'He shouted, "My God! They've all gone down with her!" -' that part got me. The realisation of this groundbreaking invention had helplessly vanished beneath the icy waves, taking hundreds down with her, along with such amazing technology and brilliant interiors. A horrific event, such awful details like the vessel splitting into 4- and the imagery of boilers exploding as helpless Countess' and lord- along with immigrants and helpless children screaming as they are plunged into such awful conditions. That ship was doomed from the start. God rest their souls.
Titanic wasn’t a groundbreaking invention. It was impressive, but not that much.
@@connorpusey5912 whatever it was, it was doomed from when it's keel was laid
@@jacobadams7628
I don’t believe so. I think it was just a tragic freak accident that was made worse by outdated and flawed maritime laws.
Your videos are better than anything put about by the big networks. Amazing work!!!! Hopefully you're doing the livestream again on the 14th.
Fantastic additional information. Each time the ship there are more facts, especially in visual form Titanic & the passengers becomes more real to me after a 55 year fascination starting at 9 years old.
Thanks
Thank you!
Definitely hoping that a similar video is done specifically on the breakup. This version is a lot more violent than any I've seen before.
Yeah. That's because the breakup was FAR more violent and messy than is usually shown. The evidence is pretty clear on that. We're hoping to bring you more about the breakup.
Massively looking forward to more videos in this style! Focussing in on a specific topic is such a great way to learn in detail and it's so fascinating! Already ready for more!!
Tom great to see you and hear your voice .What a fantastic episode .Many thanks to the team for putting it together .
This was a very fresh vantage to tell the titanic story, thank you.
For the first time I sense that I've seen this happen from
a real point of view - that of a survivor in a boat!
And the ropes hanging off the side of the ship were a nice
touch, I'm sure Cameron is kicking himself on that as I don't
think he portrayed them. Do more!
This is wonderful content. I’m always searching for more information on the Titanic, especially the ‘human experience’. Thank-you.
the depth of detail in your book is AMAZING. I thought I was pretty well read, but I learned so much. Everyone who doesn't own it should get one now.
Thank you for the kind comments.
Yes, thank you so much!
It's an awesome book. I read a little bit while on lunch at work. I keep it in my locker. A few people I work with got their own copies after taking a look at mine. (Jan Griffiths).
@@douglasgriffiths3534 Thank you, Douglas!
@@douglasgriffiths3534 Thank you for the kind words.
Thank you for this documentary. I Thought I had heard all there was available about the Titanic but never heard this story. How truly tragic and frightening it must have been.
I feel bad for Boxhall you can tell it hit him hard and felt as if he failed his passengers when he tells Rostron what happened
So many cases of bravery and cowardice. The Titanic fascinates us because it is such a human event. It showcases the very best and the very worst of humanity, all at the same time. The most majestic and beautiful of ships, made by the peak of human craftsmanship and ingenuity, sunk into the deepest part of the Atlantic on her maiden voyage because of equally human greed. Meanwhile, there are countless stories telling the bravery of so many people who sacrificed themselves for others, in the face of utmost terror and danger; while others stood by and selfishly allowed others to die, only to save themselves. The Carpathian, racing to save the survivors, almost hitting an iceberg herself and never running properly again, so determined were her crew to get there in time - only to be met by a sea of bodies and a ship nowhere to be found on that dark, moonless night. It is a haunting tale, and I personally believe that it will continue to evoke deep feelings within us many centuries from now. The very best, and the very worst, of humanity, all in one ship, one disaster, one night. All now dragged into the past. Into the abyss. Haunting us forever.
Fascinating video! I'm so interested in all things Titanic!
My sister-in-law had relatives aboard Titanic. In fact, in the film, when Jack climbed up to 1st Class and stole a coat, it was later stated that the coat belonged to a Mr. Ryerson. That was the name of my sister-in-law's relative.
I believe her surviving relatives escaped on Lifeboat #4, which I believe is the one that was lowered very crookedly.
So glad this will be a series
As I recall, the night Titanic sank there was no moon. Once the ship went down, there would have been very little light with which to judge distance or location. So no small wonder the officer in charge, Boxhall, was inaccurate to his location and where the other life boats were.
yes, and a smooth "pond-like" ocean surface to add to the distance judgement.
Yes, on a moonless night with no electric lights the North Atlantic would have been a very dark place indeed.
As you recall? Were you there?
11:43 Hitchens was at the helm when the collison with the iceberg happened. He was standing there when Thomas Andrews announced the ship had an hour, maybe more, before foundering. He knew the ship was going to sink. I think he was in shock. His behaviour was revolting, but like I said, I believe he was in shock. He was also more than likely fearful of the suction that he thought would be caused then the vessel foundered.
I ordered and just got done reading Charles Lightollers autobiography " Titanic and other ships" he gives a very detailed account of his service on Titanic and the sinking. Well written and a fascinating account of his life at sea. Men in those days were made of steel.....
Need to track it down and order copy for my husband. He’s been interested in him. Very interesting individual.
It is Such a pleasure to watch your Videos and listen to your narration. I started with the intent of telling you that it is such a pleasure to Listen to a Narrator with splendid diction, lexicon and clarity of thought, as opposed to what one normally is subject to, too frequently on this forum of social media. You sound like an Historian; You must have studied these areas. Thanking you for your efforts, I bid thee Farewell From Newfoundland. Hail Fellow Well Met!
Nice.
One thing that is missing from the get-go, though, is an orientation of the boat numbers and their locations along the length of the ship so the average person knows what these numbers mean. I simple plan view of the boat deck with numbers appearing as their number is mentioned would suffice. This would help everyone picture where everything is without having to pull things up from either memory or other references (Maybe you address this at some point, but, if so, seems to me more emphasis is needed in this video right from the start. I know a lot about the Titanic and have done a lot of restorations on some of the film's big models, but even I have a bit of a hard time instantly recalling where things are (wish I had more of a photographic memory, but I never have had that!--more like a phonographic memory...that is, one with a lot of scratches and skips!)
But thanks for all these videos. Hope the comment isn't taken too harshly. I know how much work goes into these. I can't watch everything you've done, unfortunately. Thanks again.
Grand production as always! Looking forward to seeing more of this kind!
Thank you so much, guys. This is totally fascinating! Your efforts are very much appreciated!
I have a feeling Boxhall's later testimonies was the correct one. You see in reality this is more heart breaking than you think. Back then fresh off the tragedy, public eye towards the officers and several people who participated on the rescue of the ship wreck were either seen as heroes or seen as horrible people depending on their actions. If Boxhall may had wanted to rescue the people on those doors but if he got too close to the boat he may had been trapped by the current the ship had while it was sinking, he took that sacrifice to assure the passengers on the lifeboat survived. Of course back then, people would've most likely jumped into conclusions so far and he could've been hated for the entirety of his life, imagine living with that stored in your memory for so long that it slowly eats you away but if you commented it to officials you could've been hated your entire life
Quite interesting, to say the least. Amazing work! :)
My father watched the launching of the Titanic here in northern-ireland my grandson was able to bring this information to a project the class where doing on the history of the Titanic. They where so amazed that his great grandfather had been there at the launching.
This is just so sad and just like horrifying to hear.
I can’t imagine the PTSD these people must have had after this experience especially someone like Boxhall who deliberately decides not to pick up passengers and just let them die and hear their screams. Since they are afraid of be swamped and sunk in the life boat.
The horror is just to much to even want to imagine.
Those generations weren't weak, whiners like this day. They moved on, stuff happens. PTSD is so over-diagnosed, war veterans and violent crime survivors, everyone else just wants excuses
@@williamrogers7974 That's a disgusting attitude, shame on you. That you should be so blessed to have never suffered trauma that has affected you profoundly and yet you use it as ammunition to dismiss others suffering. Appalling.
collapsible B had people dying around them, trying to swamp the overturned boat but got rejected because it was already full, unlikely the other boats could have been swamped
The white star company took advantage of the PTSD the victims had. They made the people sign contracts saying that they couldn't sue while mentally ill. The aftercare of the victims is appalling but that's how corporations run without regulations
@@skullsaintdead people definitely dealt with more hardship back then, and thus would not be as susceptible to trauma as we are now, and PTSD is over diagnosed.
It's not an attitude, they're facts. There are literally people diagnosed with PTSD after a breakup.
I would say being on the Titanic and surviving would definitely be traumatic and stressful, and definitely would not be surprised if many of the survivors had PTSD.
That being said, everything you lashed out at that person for was correct. The better off we get the weaker we become, it's just fact.
Now I just need a detailed recount or reconstruction of every single thing that happened that night, put on a timeline into a single video. These documentaries are so interesting to me, I can¨t get enough. Especially hearing conversations that the survivors were having at the time.
the captain of the titanic had balls the size of everest, with so many coward captains leaving the sinking ship first, it's very rare to find a boss like Captain Edward Smith
I’ve been told my entire life that he’s my 4 or 5 greats Grandpa.
The man was a murderer this was all deliberate
It’s very rare to have a boss like Arthur Henry Rostron too. He sacrificed his good night sleep to make very powerful efforts to get to the Titanic as quickly as possible in order to help them and very efficient preparations to receive 2,200 more people and give them great hospitality.
One can imagine the mental disorientation that could happen in such a dark and dreadful situation…
Wow! I can’t wait for more of these
6:29
I loved how you included the interviews.
Excellent and well done. Thank you. Looking forward to more Titanic and other vessels.
Thank you for such an in-depth look at boat number 2!
Love watching your Titanic videos I learn so much
I wish they would produce an audiobook version of on a sea of glass. Audiobooks are huge now and growing all the time, if they put it on audible it's massive exposure to people who ordinarily would not know about it.
I love your videos, keep rockin'.
Thank you. I’ve read “On a Sea of Glass” cover to cover and it’s excellent.
who could judge these people negatively ? I have no idea what I would do in a life and death situation.
Fascinating video. I'll admit I've never really given much thought to Lifeboat #2, although Boxhall's words about "hundreds and hundreds of people, perhaps a thousand, perhaps more" going down with the ship have always stuck in my mind. I think I was vaguely aware of a lifeboat having gone to one of the gangway doors to try and rescue passengers, but this is the first I've ever heard of there being a "mob" there and Boxhall failing to pick them up. That's haunting, to think that people could have been so close to escaping and yet were left to die. I don't know enough about lifeboat safety to either condemn or acquit Boxhall for his actions, but the emotional side of me can't help but wish he had at least tried, especially since his lifeboat was so empty.
Speaking of which, it infuriates me that those stokers and other men were forced out of the boat in the beginning, only to lower it less than half full. Those men could have been saved if the officers weren't so insistent on the "women and children only" mentality. (I guess I can cut them some slack if they were intending to pick up people at A-Deck, and therefore needed room for them, but still - it just boggles the mind to think that so late in the sinking, with little more than half an hour or so before the ship foundered, lifeboats were still being lowered so pitifully empty).
Another interesting story I've heard about the loading of Lifeboat 2 is that 9-year old Willie Coutts, one of the few child passengers on board, was initially refused entry because, allegedly, the straw hat he was wearing made him look too old. It was only when his mother refused to go without him that he was let in. I'm not sure about the story's veracity, but for what it's worth, it's mentioned on Encyclopedia Titanica.
It will be amazing 🌹❤️
It was amazing
Excellent job on this to everybody involved! This is my go-to channel for an awesome story, love it, always very relaxing and enjoyable content.
Brilliant work guys!
Thank you Chelsea!
One of the good things to come out of this tragedy is now modern day cruises calculate life boat requirements based on the number of people, and no longer on gross tonnage, which in hindsight, sounds like a completely stupid idea to begin with. But at the time, that was the way things were done, and nobody ever felt that Titanic "could" sink. The other thing the Titanic disaster showed us is that nothing is unsinkable and we need to plan for the worst.
Ultimately, the sad part about this too is that Capt Smith was due to retire after the maiden voyage, having worked his career and being ready for retirement, only to die literally days before he was to retire from his career as a captain. All that hard work as a seaman only to end in one of the largest, most notable sinkings in maritime history.
It's also a little chilling to think about what all those people (in the lifeboats who did survive) saw and how it impacted the rest of their lives. I imagine that for everyone who witnessed the sinking and survived, those images of that night haunted them for the rest of their lives.