We pretending Blizzard hire activists now? Just because they did shit like change 2 pictures but left the rest, people blow that shit out of the water waay too much. Blizzard are doing the same, they are catering to everyone so expect Pride events as well as Chinese New Year events. Lets not pretend like its taking over. Probably why despite the most awful shit we find out behind the scenes Blizzard keep thriving.
@@tommycarr1513I hardly believe it's bigger than the movie industry but it's big regardless. Movie industry market includes every person who's not homeless.(*In general*) Gaming industry only targets gamers (casual/pro/semi-pro...) And without discussion: not even the majority of people on earth play videogames. You can't say the same for movies. P.S.: If I would stroll around my hometown and ask every person if they play any type of videogame *regularly* Maybe around 20-30% would say yes. And a fraction of those would be 'gamers' from my/our perspective
@@Darko807 I think they meant the videogame industry makes more money than the movie industry, which is true. Look at fortnite or any game with a battle pass/season pass.
@@Darko807 you pay for a movie once. But how many battle passes/skins etc are people gonna buy throughout the year? As opposed to paying for a movie once? Movies don't have d.l.c or micro transactions like video games do. They sell you the game and generate passive income.
@@lIlIlIll-kg2cm underrated comment. steam isnt sold to the vultures. and after 13+ years its still good. same could be for blizzard. but the founders sold out
Exactly. Too many people who manage or have any sort of power over game companies are just some out of touch suits who have never touched a game in their lives and were solely hired for the sake of some fucking stock portfolio or some shit
Not necessarily. People forget how many small studios folded because you had "gamers" but no one that understood business at all, so they tanked. To be successful you need both, but now AAA has gotten so big that its unbalanced too far on the business side.
Using an average annual inflation rate of 2.5%, the equivalent value of $11,000 from 30 years ago in today's dollars is approximately $23,073.24. What's stopping you?
Its crazy how out of touch Asmongold is with money these days, holy shit. lol Guys just get 50k between you and your buddy and just make blizzard in 2024 why can't you do it?
Most people who try to start a business fail and lose their money it’s inherently risky. Having career goals with attainable consistent steps is the safest way to progress in life.
Yea sorry but all my grandparents died and didn't leave me anything nore could I ever borrow 11k from one. The only place to borrow is from banks and you need collateral to do so and guess what? Most people don't have real collateral that a bank would consider valuable.
Funny story. When I was working at Riot Games, at the very very beginning, you could see most people playing other games in their free time. When suddenly something shifted and you saw more and more people play League and actually having fun, you knew that something great was being created.
Man... Blizzard makes me so sad. I remember being a bright eyed teen in the late 90s, checking the Blizzard website on the single school computer I had access to. Telling myself "this is where I'm gonna work" Never ended up happening, maybe for the best. But had I kept my original goals, I would have made it in there just in time for World of Warcraft. My solid memory of this company is that old careers page on that 90s website. Not wow, warcraft, or anything else.
The best way to work nowadays is for yourself, 1 person company. And the game creating tools we have nowadays are so good, and keep getting so much better, that I honestly think the later you begin developing your personal project, the earlier you are going to finish it (well not really, but in principle). Just imagine as a gamer, having 30+ years of game playing experience (I'm in the same boat) and applying yourself to create a game from your best ideas.
I think the biggest advantage he had growing up was having supportive parents, and that doesn’t cost anything. That’s my biggest take away. Good parents are worth their weight in gold.
I did ABK’s (pre Microsoft) MBA recruiting program and they amount of times they would tell everyone “you don’t have to play video games to work here!” was wild.
I think there is some truth to that. As a rule, sure, they should be passionate about games to make them. But theres certainly exceptions. You dont wanna pass on a great talent because of what might be an arbitrary factor. One of the most powerful indicators for success in games is an incredible art direction. You think every great artist is a gamer? The people working on the game mechanics and design should be gamers, but other departments might have some wiggle room.
@@karenamyx2205 I agree, but I don’t think having product managers who don’t understand the products are effective. Like 0 concept of what they’re pushing through production. And edit: there are really good PMs there too, highly technical and good at their job. But they didn’t have much understanding of customer experience or feedback outside of written and submitted complaints and feedback. You need to be able to play the game to understand how it feels in my opinion.
One of my best memories regarding WoW was playing all night with a friend. Neither of us could sleep so we played all night farming in Nagrand during TBC and then eventually the sun came up over the mountains and hit the fields and floating islands. It was crazy how it made me feel. Awesome game design work.
What people don’t talk about is back then you had to make everything yourself. There was no game engine. You needed to make the entire pipeline. So 11k sounds like a lot but they couldn’t boot up Unreal or Unity and start making a game. Had to learn graphics, physics, file management and then entire IO system.
Did he though? I think people overstate how influential Warhammer was to Warcraft. Sure, Warcraft 1 was originally going to be a Warhammer game, but they split off and started doing their own thing pretty quickly. After that it was an inspiration at most.
Blizzard hired a bunch of the top-ranked EverQuest raiders of various classes when developing WOW. They understood what made EQ great, and they understood what made EQ frustrating. Obviously they were massively successful, but ironically they repeated the mistake of Warriors being the only viable raid tanks.
Funny how basically everything after the Activision acquisition has failed. WoW full of mtx, botting, gold buying and many more issues, OW2 is a corpse buried alive, SC2 dead, HoTs dead, Hearthstone dead, D4 was a joke and D2R was not developed by Blizzard. The funniest thing is people still hope Blizzard will make a comeback
The more new people you bring in to a company, and the more old timers who leave, the further away you get from the original goodness. Blizzard is gone. The old timers are gone, the teams that built the great games are in different companies. Its never coming back.
You forgot Warcraft III Reforged. Imagine failing with re-releasing a game that was already a hit, probably a master piece of its time... What's even more infinite than space and human stupidity? Greed.
They need a raid wipe of the designers. Maybe you could bring casuals back, and make it a fun game again. Another thing is the theme even Asmon notices with the FemBoy shit. It's a disgrace to the original 3. Obviously less so right after WOTLK, but that Panda race and Token were the beginning of the end. Now with Dragonflight, it's just full blow weeb shit. I like the combat, but the rewards, ques, design, progression..it's all about the endgame. Rant over.
It is a real shame how thoroughly the corporate money men can destroy every bit of a company that started with all the respect and goodwill from customers that anyone could ever want
Companies like Blizzard are far from "destroyed." They're still insanely profitable. Customer goodwill may have slipped, but most people you see complaining still keep buying their products so that doesn't even matter.
Imagine being part of the dawn of a new technical age while 20 years old doing a start up in your garage and then making millions. Sure, it can maybe still be done today, but nothing like late 80s and early 90s.
Back when the nerds didn't own all the big companies already. Now they do which puts them in a better position to take advantage of any new tech before the 20 year olds can. Still, if you have a passion for something that you don't think the big companies are doing an adequate job of catering to, there is your opportunity.
The garage startup mythos is mostly bullshit. It's cover story for InQTel projects. Mostly famously, Zuck's Facebook was LifeLog developed by the U.S. military and Gates' Microsoft got a similar launch with his parent's connections and InQTel seed money.
Watch interviews with Brevik and his Wife, they paint a slightly different perspective on early Blizzard and what happened leading up to Activision basically ruining the company.
The writing was on the wall when the pvp enthusiasts and anyone who didn't tow the EQ line was outed, who would go on to form arena-net. Of course wow was make-or-break and needed to be "safe" but world pvp was so broken, it was like if Warcraft 3 TKers could follow you between matches. They considered that to be "working as intended." Their idea of being a l33t g4m3r was shooting fish in a barrel so it's no wonder that blizzard can't devise a pvp game to save their lives these days, all they have is their two-trick pony of cooldowns and asymmetric hard counters. Hearthstone arena was fire though, before the ultra value cards made hand size largely irrelevant.
It’s really a shame how blizzard has warped into something unrecognizable from their prime. I never played blizzard games growing up because I literally believed I wouldn’t be able to stop playing them lmao, but I always had a respect from afar for them and I always knew that these guys were known for being top quality game devs making some of the best games in the world… how times have changed
i never played them because the design meant ''kids'' for me and i dont mean only actual kids but anyone with a kid mentality....the trolling that goes on WoW meant i was right
Victim of their own success. Like a lot of other AAA companies they got too big to fail, but also too big to succeed. So they're stuck playing it safe, making mid games for mid people while still raking in billions. If we aren't broke, why fix it?
Haha I quit wow in 2008 because I was worried it’d affect my a level grades. My buddy played throughout but made the smarter choice of learning programming. He’s making 150k+ a year now haha
The only other RTS games that held a candle to games like Warcraft and Starcraft were Age of Empires, Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, Dawn of War, Command & Conquer, and more.
It’s funnier to think that there was a period in our history where it was possible to leave college with 11k that didn’t have a negative sign in front of it. Multiply that number by 5 put a negative sign in front of it and that’s what most college grads leave college with today. Was it possible to do this back in the day? Sure, but let’s not pretend that it’s still so easy anyone can go out and do it, because instead of 11k your grandparents would need to have well over 100k to lend you so you could end up with +22k after college. Factor in that now you’re not entering into a field with unlimited growth potential rather you’re entering a field where 90% of the work will be done by AI which will kill off 90% of the jobs available in the space in the next 4-10 years or sooner and you quickly start to see exactly how fucked the American dream has become. There are far too many shit tier monopolies in our country, and nowhere near the level of regulation needed for the little guy to still have a chance. There is no reason why a college education should be run like a business, textbook companies being in bed with school boards who tell teachers they now have to write a new curriculum every semester to match the latest textbook which just jumbled the chapters from last semesters textbook to make the old textbook worthless and make it possible to charge 500$ for the same book should be criminal to the point where all the people involved should be rotting in prison. Instead we have a country where the people at the top pushed down the ladders they used to get where they are then offered hand ups only to their close friends and family.
Well yeah, if you entered into the gaming industry now it's not going to be the same as when they did it. You need to enter into an industry that is just starting to grow and hopefully, you chose the correct one and it results in massive growth. You say this like every single person back then was successful just because of when they were born. Most new startups failed back then too, but the only examples given are the successes not the failures.
@@orangesaturn If you go for almost any industry now. The new model is set to keep turn over low or just not have any and keep a skeleton crew. In the 90 start up companies were popping up left and right. Not a lot of people believed in the internet yet so taking the risk back then was FAR more lucrative for those who did. you only hear of the successful ones cause a good majority of them were successful. And hand wiggle room to try again from a different angle or rebrand if not. Not like today where there's only a 10% chance of success.
It's nice to see and sad to see so many people choosing to just sit on the sidelines because of reasons they make up in their head of why they will never succeed anyway
This is all true for someone seeking a normal career but pretty irrelevant to anyone actually looking to start a business. You could leave a bank with 50k this afternoon if you had the idea and were willing to put in the work.
@@dWoj0 Whoa calm down with that before you go homeless. You would need collateral or decent credit if not both for that to work out. You would also have to plan for a budget of that size. Being nice. With 8% interest that 50k loan is now 77k after interest at 600ish a month. That's IF you get approved. And if you lie on the application then that a whole other story with legal ramifications.
I really like Asmon's mentality. "Yeah like complaining about other people having it and not you is going to do a lot for you" so true and very wise words
Not really. Yeah, it would do a fuck ton for me, because I don't have it and having it would be really useful. You called one of Asmon's shitties takes "wise"
@0:44 "everybody asks for permission to succeed, meanwhile people who are successful just go out and do it" is a HUGE survivorship bias statement. The most successful tend to have taken on incredible risk, and through a mixture of skill and sheer luck came out on top. Those same people stand among platoons of others just like them, just as skilled, who tried and failed and are forgotten.
This is not survivorship bias because it is not a cognitive bias. What you are describing is just a low % of success. If you don't just go out and do it, the % of success is near 0 since your results are averaged with everyone else in the economy. If you go out and do it, the % of success is still low, but at least you have a chance of succeeding. It's like dating. If you don't interact with other people, your chances of dating are extremely close to 0%. Is it survivorship bias that people who have relationships meet other people? No, it's just a prerequisite for you to participate in a % chance of the desired result.
Not everyone who does that succeeds, but everyone who succeeds has done that. Its like if you want to have a chance of winning your event in the Olympics, you still have to qualify to compete. A lot of athletes never make it that far. But every single one in the winners circle had to go through that same process to stand where they are now.
This idea of "just go it" or "it's not that much money" are asinine. Me and my partner made card game that is great and original. But we're broke. If we had $11k to gamble, cause it is a gamble, we'd be on the 3rd or 4th game by now. And dealing with publishers is a nightmare and heartache.
you`d be suprised how many devs dont even play their game. One issue even with helldivers 2 was " we need to get our devs to play the game so they understand the balancing"
Work ethic and culture surrounding games has shifted drastically over the years. A lot of devs treat it like any other 9-5 job now, where they do what they're needed for then forget about it until the next day. Which is understandable I guess, especially in bigger companies that don't give a shit about you, but for creative ventures like games its better to have people who are a least somewhat passionate about what they're making because it tends to show in the final product.
01:00 the problem with that statement is, that you only hear about the successful people and never about the ones that failed, and I can assure you, that the ones that failed are vastly much more than just simply two
"If you try to make a game for everybody, you will get nobody" Let that sink in... still, people do not understand this. And all they want is games that cater to EVERYBODY somehow. Just NO... thats not how it works.
This is the truth. A great game to me will not be great for someone else and vice versa. I don't want to play every game. I just want to play games made by people that understand me and the others like me that we will enjoy spending time playing. fallout new vegas is my favorite game of all time. i wish anything would come close to this.
You do realize that Allen actually said the exact opposite of what you are saying? He said that it was prevailing mindset of the developers at the time and blizzard rejected that and actually tried to make the game for everyone.
Casuals? I wish. It seems like a fair amount of game devs actively hate games and gamers now. And with all the whiny gamer bois out there, I can't really blame them either.
Egyptian parents emigrating to the US 50 years ago to work on their PHD is not growing up with a silver spoon. That's a huge risk they took and there is no way they were rich even by the standards of those times. People just need to believe that everyone who is successful was handed their success in order to cope with their own failure.
That said it's still 1000 times harder to achieve high level success if you weren't born into at least a middle class family, which almost doesn't exist anymore in the US.
@@patrickboian8545they were successful before going to the US. Being an engineer and scientist and pursuing PhDs are not people going to America with nothing. The US just had more and better opportunities for them to use their skills which are in white collar roles. I’m not mad because I enjoy science and may do a PhD in my life in the career I am in and I wasn’t handed a silver spoon but I can see he had some privileges such as a father in engineering who encouraged his pursuit into computer science
He easily described the faults and problems with the gaming industry, or rather the quadruple A industry. Who would've thought that you should hire talented people to create art. Who would've thought that gaming devs should have actual fucking passion for the games they make. Man, what surprise. Glad this interview exists, thank you.
@@StarDragonJP I was making the gigantic mental leap that MMORPGs and in game economies were closely studied in order to predict and/or manipulate markets. He speaks of AI in the clip. Blackrock's Aladdin comes to mind.
Great interview! Could listen to him all day.. Like his game philosophy, he speaks simply enough that casuals can understand his ideas, but when applied correctly they can be incredibly potent and effective
Man, listening to him talk, the Blizzard we see now is a far cry from the old Blizzard. It takes me back to early 2000s, how I was so excited to play Warcraft 3 DEMO, not even the full version, and how incredible it was, and it still is. Thinking about it now, the old WoW, Starcraft and Diablo, they were all reflections of the passionate gamers, nerds who were making them back in the day. Now, It's all souless, dull and empty. Which is why It's been years since I quit WoW, the same time I stopped playing any of their other games. When the company, and the people in it change (in a bad way), everything they touch turns to sh*t. Activision Blizzard is a great example of how you take something so amazing, and promising, and destroy it so utterly, so completely that there's nothing left of its former self.
Think you missed the point about that guys first comment…the guy is waxing lyrical about how tough he had it and Themis guys point out how he didn’t….same thing you did to the person typing this except you don’t even know his situation and he wasn’t complaining how hard he had it
Asmondgold is actually so anti-broke. I love his video game takes but holy shit. It's not rocket science to understand that having parents with an extremely high level of education, compared to one's that do not ans with any amount of disposable currency. Like yea that's fucking privilege?! As long as he did what he needed to do, the man was handed a future without a fucking doubt.
Asmon needs to talk to Sam Harris, unlikely crossover but Sam could really change his mind on this whole “all you need is hard work” mentality when it comes to success.
30K in 1992 is about 68K now. Not a huge amount really ... sept to people who begrudge others for their lack of supportive family or their own sad skillset and/or ethic.
I will always hate the idea that normal ppl have access to starting capital “so just go start a company idiot lol” it’s not realistic for many many ppl. However, having the balls to throw everything you have into an idea is indeed real shit.
honestly Asmongold is growing increasingly out of touch. I use to feel he was down to earth. I am not mad that these people got money to make their dream company, as well has supportive people in there life that helped them. But in saying that most people if given these coniditions would likely to find some kind of success wiether that be a company, become a ground breaking scientist, or invest that money growing thier wealth. I feel asmongold has internalized the ideas people have about the poor and homeless, being a individual problem when it is both a societal problem and to lesser exstent a enviromental one.
The money is possibly not the problem but the amount of competitors in almost every field. The early 90's to 2000's was wild because there was space to grow and create new stuff. Now ? Everything is oversaturated, almost everything has already been tried once before.
Big games can be fun but it doesn't have to be big and expensive to be fun. That's why these days I prefer to support indie developers who are passionate about their game and come out with a game that is actually fun and won't burn a hole in your wallet.
3:46 Prob the response you made "saying dang, that's crazy" assuming there were poor bro that they came from egypt. Im not sure where those thoughts formed to make those comments you made were. Both were intelligent parents and a child who was thankful that they gave him the opportunity to be successful. It's genuinely not hard to understand that he was successful in funding that venture because of that money. The money he invested was 25k money THAT WAS COLLEGE MONEY BTW + the money that his friends chipped in. If he did started any later to make that jump the employees that worked for blizzard would be working been in competitors side and WOW would never be the game that we know today. That's why he is thankful for the opportunity that to happen, He even said any normal parents would had been against that venture. I do think that guy was projecting but he is correct.
I want every parent/soon to be parent to go to @4:30 and listen to what this man said. And listen to it well "My parents encouraged me" encourage your fucking kids
While you are right that unironically many games release incomplete today, in this video, the shot of the boxes of games with the stickers, 'Game Complete' references those used games having all the original box contents. The stickers added to indicate to customers that the what's in the box was 100% of the original game; there were some boxes in that store with other stickers indicating 'Game Missing Manual' and etc. This practice is still done today in places like 2nd hand stores, flea markets, antique shops.
@shaunb-xl4uy Where I'm from 23K is about 7 years of average income. But luckily today anyone can really make games for alot less especially when you are still young and don't have many responsibilities. There's definitely ways to make it if you work hard enough.
Good thing all your dev tools are completely free these days, and you don’t need an office, and you clearly already have a computer and internet. Looks like you need exactly 0 more dollars to start.
@Knight3434 Exactly I might not have 23K but I'm a student and have free time, and I'm sure I know people who are down to try something new before we finish college, what's to lose?
Having that 11k+ the 11k his friend borrowed from his grandma did play a part in them succeeding. However they wanting to make a game played the biggest part. It was they who wanted it and worked for it. They who spent hours into the games they made. It was their ambition, perseverance, and love for making games that ultimately factor into their success. Respect to them.
What people don't take into account is also the cost of everything in todays world, cost of workers, space, tools to develop games, and how much harder it is to compete on the market today
This full on made me open my eyes and see what’s really going on and really this guy is actually right and well now I know why the ever living fuck the games aren’t good because they don’t cater to the gamers they are trying to appeal to the non-gaming market it’s the same for how Xbox had that press thing and how the woman who was asked the question of “how does this effect gamers in the future for Xbox?” And well she gave a boring answer because they didn’t want to appeal to gamers at all they are going for shareholders and all the people who are super casuals or the people who DON’T play any games at all and or the people who get home to blow of some time before they have to go to work or etc and from hearing and seeing this it’s opened my eyes to it now,I wonder why I can’t stand games that have so much crap in them than actual content made for people who are gonna sit down and take the time to play the game through.
Chatters calling the dude "weak" and "rookie" for playing 2-4hrs a day. That's probably on top of a 12hr workday. Like is he not supposed to sleep??!! lol
"Their prime was when Overwatch was popular" - one of the comments. Lad you have no idea... WoW had posters in trains around the world, Malls had a large portion of there foot traffic from teenagers buying monthly game passes. You have no idea. Imagine gamers across all platforms chasing content in a single game.
14:48 - Rock'n Roll Racing and Blackthorn are classics. Rn'R R was and still is THE RACING game on SEGA MD II, at least for me. I guess he could overlooked them because they were not fantasy themed games.
Please all remember that despite all the bad; good memories are still real , hell there could be a time where the name could be associated with quality once again (likely with different hands), even if the talent is different.
impossible....but the early days players will keep finding ways to be positive and they would keep doing it even if the game servers were open 1 day a week and the only gameplay left would be standing in a prison room with only the void outside the window bars....even then the core WoW players would still defend it
There is imho something that does not quite fit into the story of how Allen and Mike first met. Either Mike knew beforehand what Allen's password was (he had to type It to unlock the computer), or Allen forgot to lock his computer. I think the second option is more plausible: Mike was sitting near Allen. He noticed Allen forgot to lock his computer, so Mike decided to play a small prank on him. Mike later found he never changed the pass and both were using the same.
So you're telling me, Blizzard got this big, because it...hired...gamers...? Instead of political activists??? To make video games?!?!?! Naaaaahhh that can't be right.
A lot of people also lack the hustle to make things happen. Its very easy to smoke weed all day and complain on the internet, its a lot harder to leave your comfort zone and take risks. Which is why the vast majority of chatters and commenters are never going to get anywhere in life besides the dumpster.
The sad sad truth is, that there are way too many people willing to spend that kind of money. I know guys who've spent tens of thousands of dollars on csgo skins. They typically got gambling addictions. Some of them will pay in full for a knife skin knowing that they are more likely to spend 100x trying to open crates for it. So there are plenty of people willing to spend thousands on a knife in cs, but a lot of these people also know they can resell the item on steam and get like 70% of their money back after valve takes their cut of the sale. Or they can use third party trading sites to sell it for the full price and get back all the money or sometimes more or less depending on how the items value fluctuates. League doesn't allow you to resell things but I imagine you could sell the whole account to a collector later on. Moral of the story microtransactions suck ass and we need to go back to the halo 3 days of unlocking customization through achievements in game. Maybe someday there will be a game like that, but it's definitely not coming from AAA
People arent REALLY complaining about the money. They are just upset because they don't harbor skills or drive. Unreal engine is free and there are TH-cam tutorials. They just don't want to look in the mirror at themselves.
3:38 that call out was great. 15:53 Wise words - A game made for everyone, is a game made for no one. 23:26 A developer interested in what people are playing? what people enjoy? 24:24 If you want to make a game company,hiring gamers is a good idea!
the hint was the fact that they changed customer for consumer...now a good 85% of people also say consumer and forgot the word customer even existed....
As someone that went to university and studied games design I think a big part of the problem is that, with gaming as an industry becoming mainstream, employment at industry-level studios is often locked behind education. And the way that game development is being taught puts a huge focus on all of the uneccessary complexity and social politics factors. You don't learn how to make games your taught how to appeal to modern audiences. We even got told that the games had to have coherent back stories and that everything had to thematically make sense. It's crazy - like Mario was an Italian plumber jumping around on turtles and mushroom men. If you submitted mario in a games design class today you'd fail.
How did you make one of the most successful games in history. -Blizzard founder; i played my own game. -Minecraft founder; i played my own game. -Idie devs; i play my own game. -Terraria devs; we play our own game -No mans sky devs; we played are own game and we thought we could do better. -literally most souls game developer; we played our own game. I mean i don't know im not a game developer, but its pretty mutch a given fact developers should be playing there game more, and modyfying it properly. This is why i said in my comment in another video; " if i would have the money in a game studio i will pay all workers for 2 hours to play the game as a requirment while in the job " And maybe would put it to 3 or 4 It's because gameing gives you a practical very clear idea, what to do and where to do it, and why. This is why starborne is amazing even if its made by one dev. Its because the dev actually play the game; as with most indie titles. That's why their fun. This is why indie devs stonks, because they are gammers before a coporate employee who happens to be able to make games.
Gotta disagree with Asmons rant to an extent. It really is rigged against you. Success is an extremely rare thing and money doesnt go near as far today. Its easier to be a small developer but the market is so flooded with games that you really need a viral hit. Most businesses now operate at a loss for years, and very few people can sustain such a loss before making a profit.
Only rigged against you if you don't have money, unlike this guy who had a well off mommy and daddy. Asmon even bootlicked for that guy during a video that frames it as this guy struggling.
Its nowhere near as easy as it use to be to be middle class. Ive watched friends be forced into apartments while still maintaining the same career. Just noticing..
23:23 The referral program (*cough*backdoor hiring) resulted in lack of thorough gamer-type vibe check. Went from smart/strategic games to troll/shooter-centric games.
I'm so happy to see that people start to look at the golden moments of gaming again and admire it's genuine will and joy to be creative. There was a time where a game stood for a whole world even if it was small and it just captivated us to an extent where we knew something special is going on.
The newest animal crossing definitely suffered. New Leaf was the peak of the series. Sometimes people want the same game, but looking better and with more accessories.
Asmon dropping hard L's in this one. The founder was literally hand held by the best in the gaming industry and walked by those founders into it, had extreme wealth as a child with no consequence for his failure, resources to begin handed to him with no effort, and 80's economy. It was literally handed to him. Not only is it 50K in modern terms, but 50k doesn't get you EVEN ONE of the things he talked about: no office for 50k, no employee for 50k, you might get the hardware and tech licenses for someone at that price point, but not several. And no amount of money is going to get the current generation of good game developers to bring you on and take you under their wing. The accessibility and cost of things doesn't increase linearly with inflation.
Currently waiting for why you are not changing your life and instead you're addicted to anime and pretending that you are Patrick Bateman. Come on, let's hear it.
On the whole Bloodborne topic, we dont need a remake and we dont need 2. A remake is gonna require intended game mechanics or the like to change, and while im not a lore buff on one of my most faved games, changing certain items like the just resting at a lamp or not going to the Hunters Dream to level could unintentionally change lore or correct it and shine light on what it was meant to be. Idk about the lore point, i fight internally all the time about it even though resting to respawn enemies or to just go to a new area would be a qol improvement. The famous “oh we need a 2” has always been a fat no, since Miyazaki has said he doesn’t like revisiting ip’s. Dark souls 2 was not done by him, dark souls 3 was fan service and demons souls was training wheels for dark souls. Plus if a sequel did get pumped out, its not gonna be as good as the first and itll be debated for years to come, i mean look at dark souls 2. So in essence a remaster maybe with new content, 60 fps on console and pc port is all this world needs. Also a save file transfer would sell even harder for me.
My favorite part of this video is Asmongold absolutely torching the people who'd rather be a victim than actually go out and do the work that it takes to succeed.
This is typical survivorship bias. Let's use a complete moonshot like Blizzard as a measurement for everyone's work accomplishments. Realize that there are a lot of people doing hard work that do not succeed and that hard work itself is not the sole factor for success.
Same, it honestly gets the vein that runs along the top of my 🐔 pumping when he addresses the fact that people are so helpless and have completely turned into infants. Even if the people that are complaining HAD 50 grand wired to them, they would STILL not find success, and they know this deep down.
“Perfection is achieved when there is nothing left to take away.”-Antoine de Saint-Exupéry had to look this up. I've heard it in relation to engineering wherein a more complex mechanism can be more failure prone because you have more possible points of failure. The design example I remember most clearly is the analog clock without numbers and a single line to mark 12. The flip side is knowing when not to merge functionality together to reduce part numbers.
Asmon has really lost sight of how much of a struggle the average person has. If I have a random 12k given to me right now I could get my own mechanic shop started. Instead I'm working at a dealership as a mechanic for $14 an hour. I have a degree in mechanics. Everyone said trade skills were where the money was at. They def had a huge leg up with a 22k starting fund. I make $50 a month in disposable income, so I'll have that kind of start up privilege in 36.666666667 years. And that's not adjusting for the fact that 22k isn't near as much now as it was then. If i dont pay for internet then I can knock that down to 13 years I guess, but then I have to live a dull and miserable life and i'll be 50 years old before I can have the internet again, all so I can save up as much money as these guys were basically given from wealthy parents. So yea they have a privilege, and I have it better off than some guy on the streets. My point is America shouldn't be set up this way. All the money funneled to the top, billionaires get richer, and the middle class is basically gone and now trade skilled labor is making what should be minimum wage because it barely affords my one bedroom apartment. When he says shit like this it's just super cringe. Millionaires have no idea what it is like for the average person and that's fine, but he shouldn't pretend like we have it so easy just because we aren't in a third world country. It's easy to not see how shit this country has become when you are viewing it from a pile of money. When did American slogan become "Not as bad as a third world country".
At the end of the day, he's a conservative. Conservatives are truth proclaimers, not truth seekers. They refuse to acknowledge the existence of institutional hurdles and blame every problem on individual failure even when there's a mountain of evidence in front of them proving that the problems are coming from the people they defend: billionaires and the ultra wealthy. They think life is supposed to suck unless you work hard enough to become wealthy. So many conservatives I've talked to think there are a ton of people who actually deserve to not eat or afford to live simply because they work entry level jobs like fast food. They're invested in themselves, their ego, and their family, not the country or anyone else. Their perception of humanity is cynical and their vision for our potential is incurious and limited. Asmon is more level headed than the average conservative but he still has it wrong in this area because he's rich and able to avoid the consequences of institutional collapse.
Interesting he knew the people who started Interplay. Imagine if they could have combined the companies and staved off Interplays bankruptcy. Maybe Bethesda wouldn't own the Fallout franchise. Of course it could also mean Activision Blizzard might own the Fallout franchise and who knows what Bobby Kotick would have done with it.
4:00 easy up Asmongold, the average college graduate is going to be $100K in debt, saddled with $1500+ a monthly payments. No bank is going to loan a fresh 22 year old graduates with $100K in debt ANOTHER $100K to start a business. Go back to slurping your supersize soda, and the the comfortable life you now have from literally playing video games and giving your "sage" wisdom over other creators' hard work on TH-cam.
@@johnjackson9767 I can't. I went to college in the 90's, when tuition at a public university was $6,000 a year adjusted for inflation. Asmongold likely spends much of his day "working," if you can call playing games and giving his opinion working. However, he also discounts the luck of being at the right place and time for channels accumulating subscribers and being profitable.
Yoshi P said something similar to "Go" and "Chess", something on the lines of playing Mario single-player verses playing it with a friend changes the game completely even though the same rules apply.
in any game im a completionnist so this makes me play solo ALL THE TIME because i simply cannot play with someone who isnt a completionnist without having my blood pressure go through the roof
In innately PVP games like Go and Chess, playing solo would essentially be teaching yourself / reviewing old games to get better at them, no? Unless you mean an AI program and, while AlphaGo "solved" Go and Chess has had its AI programs for many decades, yeah it really isn't the same as playing with another person
This isn't about complaining, few people have the priviledge to do what he did. He came from a hyper educated family, had money and access to good education. Not all of us can do this and we should say this LOUDLY.
Not just that, he had a friend that made frickin interplay. It helps a lot to see your friends succeed and gives a huge motivational boost. The opportunity to make games was there for them in the form of a computer, which was really expensive back then. All these things it might not have been the deciding factor but they definitely helped. In the end you still have to actually go through with it and do it, but Asmongold reacting like that is just him being a bit of a dumdum.
It's not privileged, it's kickstart/quick start. "privileged" is use only to justify hatred or/and envy to other people, including those, who have hardcore start, still get results.
Dude you can literally say that about anything- IQ is a thing, physical talents are a thing.. Everyone has their own talents.. But yeah, IQ is hereditary so having good/smart parents is great, but discipline and hard work is earned.. And they literally did coding while in Junior high, while we have university students taking loans and not even thinking about how to pay it back.. While others work part time at the same time.. If you have a smart device and are in a society where you are able to study until University level (even with a student loan) then you are privileged... Sure you might have a lukewarm IQ but u can still get a degree, simply the question was if you were smart enough to choose a good degree or an useless one.. Although those with IQ will generally do better, so I guess if you are complaining about the unfairness, then you are pretty much calling for smart people to be lobotomized.
@@KoinzellGaming There are things you can work on as a society to even the playing field for the things you can change. Currently there are WAAAAY more opportunities for game development than back then but getting to the heights of Blizzard is much more difficult. Coding while in junior high isn't even an achievement these days. Back then there was way less competition and fewer sharks in the tank. The limbs loss or things you're born with comparison is a room temperature iq take.
25:12 "I don't need to play games to have the magic of creativity to come up with great ideas, I went to school and "studied" hard and went into massive amounts of debt to acquire this slip of paper that claims I'm an expert in this topic." And that's what has been happening and that is why everything in the industry is turning to shit. Passion and integrity was replaced with wokeness and obedience/dictation. This is what happens when game dev companies go corpo, sacrifice the soul for greed. Also think about this, let's say Blizzard has 2 positions open (same job type) and they go through the hiring process with someone who is a hardcore gamer with years of experience in being a self taught developer. Then you have someone who just put in the 4 years to get a bachelors degree and is desperate to land a job to start paying off their debt. Both of these people get hired, which one do you think is going to be a better employee? The self taught individual with a passion to prove themselves and knows they were lucky to be hired, or the desperate college graduate who barely had time to play video games and probably believes Blizzard would be lucky to have them and deserved to be hired. I'd rather the person who comes into work with ideas pouring out of their ears ready to take on the day over the person who is just dreading to come in to just collect a paycheck.
Irrelevant. He still only got where he was because his parents gave him money. He wouldn't have been able to do it without that. Oh, and his partner borrowed money from his grandmother. They both were privileged.
@@gimphandjeff What's wrong with being privileged? If your world view is that of a jealous victim it might be irritating to you, but you can't objectively give me a reason why being privileged is bad or wrong.
Hiring gamers instead of activists?! Crazy!! Give the customer what they want makes money?! Super crazy!!
Idk bro, quite the radical thinking you’ve got going on over there 🤪
@@Jessthree Yeah gonna have to agree here that is pretty crazy
Imagine people who love games making games 🤯
This is why indies are booming
We pretending Blizzard hire activists now? Just because they did shit like change 2 pictures but left the rest, people blow that shit out of the water waay too much. Blizzard are doing the same, they are catering to everyone so expect Pride events as well as Chinese New Year events. Lets not pretend like its taking over. Probably why despite the most awful shit we find out behind the scenes Blizzard keep thriving.
"early secret was that we hired gamers" -> "when I sold blizzard" and that's where it all went wrong lol
Yeah we lost the people who related to us to get a bunch of suits.
Video game industry is bigger than the movie industry. Rich investors came in when they saw an opportunity and F’d it all up
@@tommycarr1513I hardly believe it's bigger than the movie industry but it's big regardless.
Movie industry market includes every person who's not homeless.(*In general*)
Gaming industry only targets gamers (casual/pro/semi-pro...)
And without discussion: not even the majority of people on earth play videogames.
You can't say the same for movies.
P.S.: If I would stroll around my hometown and ask every person if they play any type of videogame *regularly*
Maybe around 20-30% would say yes. And a fraction of those would be 'gamers' from my/our perspective
@@Darko807 I think they meant the videogame industry makes more money than the movie industry, which is true. Look at fortnite or any game with a battle pass/season pass.
@@Darko807 you pay for a movie once. But how many battle passes/skins etc are people gonna buy throughout the year? As opposed to paying for a movie once? Movies don't have d.l.c or micro transactions like video games do. They sell you the game and generate passive income.
Such a shame, blizzard used to be so great but got spoiled by corpo greed.
@@Sunspike_kstruth
Aint just games that got this problem
Once an organization outgrows its founders' ability to manage, or they sell off or retire, that's the beginning of the end.
They got replaced by people who don't play games as simple as that they sold the company and its corpo
Greed in the sense that they took the tainted ESG money without a second thought.
When I use to work at Activision I was surprised at the fact that upper management didn’t play any video games.
blizzard was made by passionate people, now it's just an empty shell, used as a puppet
What u gonna do about it? Stop whining u dont even know how to make games lmao.
its the passionate people's fault too. they sold it.
@@aaad3552neither do modern game devs 😂
@@lIlIlIll-kg2cm underrated comment. steam isnt sold to the vultures. and after 13+ years its still good. same could be for blizzard. but the founders sold out
Texas chainsaw massacre runs silicon Valley now.
"Strategic depth does not require complexity" is such a good take.
Good things happen when the management of a game company are also gamers.
Exactly. Too many people who manage or have any sort of power over game companies are just some out of touch suits who have never touched a game in their lives and were solely hired for the sake of some fucking stock portfolio or some shit
I mean back in the day gaming was pretty small market, you HAD to be a gamer to ever consider making games
Not necessarily. People forget how many small studios folded because you had "gamers" but no one that understood business at all, so they tanked. To be successful you need both, but now AAA has gotten so big that its unbalanced too far on the business side.
Not just management. Literally everyone that works there should be a Gamer
Using an average annual inflation rate of 2.5%, the equivalent value of $11,000 from 30 years ago in today's dollars is approximately $23,073.24. What's stopping you?
Its crazy how out of touch Asmongold is with money these days, holy shit. lol Guys just get 50k between you and your buddy and just make blizzard in 2024 why can't you do it?
23k😂
Most people who try to start a business fail and lose their money it’s inherently risky. Having career goals with attainable consistent steps is the safest way to progress in life.
People do that for a year of school when theyre broke af, considering what blizzard became yeah 23k is fucking nothing @jhodathekid
Yea sorry but all my grandparents died and didn't leave me anything nore could I ever borrow 11k from one. The only place to borrow is from banks and you need collateral to do so and guess what? Most people don't have real collateral that a bank would consider valuable.
Funny story. When I was working at Riot Games, at the very very beginning, you could see most people playing other games in their free time. When suddenly something shifted and you saw more and more people play League and actually having fun, you knew that something great was being created.
And know league puts out 500 doller skins rip
Man... Blizzard makes me so sad. I remember being a bright eyed teen in the late 90s, checking the Blizzard website on the single school computer I had access to. Telling myself "this is where I'm gonna work" Never ended up happening, maybe for the best. But had I kept my original goals, I would have made it in there just in time for World of Warcraft. My solid memory of this company is that old careers page on that 90s website. Not wow, warcraft, or anything else.
I used to mail them my drawings.
The best way to work nowadays is for yourself, 1 person company. And the game creating tools we have nowadays are so good, and keep getting so much better, that I honestly think the later you begin developing your personal project, the earlier you are going to finish it (well not really, but in principle).
Just imagine as a gamer, having 30+ years of game playing experience (I'm in the same boat) and applying yourself to create a game from your best ideas.
I think the biggest advantage he had growing up was having supportive parents, and that doesn’t cost anything. That’s my biggest take away. Good parents are worth their weight in gold.
I did ABK’s (pre Microsoft) MBA recruiting program and they amount of times they would tell everyone “you don’t have to play video games to work here!” was wild.
I think there is some truth to that. As a rule, sure, they should be passionate about games to make them. But theres certainly exceptions. You dont wanna pass on a great talent because of what might be an arbitrary factor. One of the most powerful indicators for success in games is an incredible art direction. You think every great artist is a gamer? The people working on the game mechanics and design should be gamers, but other departments might have some wiggle room.
@@karenamyx2205 this is like saying artist that work in movies don't need to watch movies.
@@karenamyx2205 I agree, but I don’t think having product managers who don’t understand the products are effective. Like 0 concept of what they’re pushing through production.
And edit: there are really good PMs there too, highly technical and good at their job. But they didn’t have much understanding of customer experience or feedback outside of written and submitted complaints and feedback.
You need to be able to play the game to understand how it feels in my opinion.
One of my best memories regarding WoW was playing all night with a friend. Neither of us could sleep so we played all night farming in Nagrand during TBC and then eventually the sun came up over the mountains and hit the fields and floating islands. It was crazy how it made me feel. Awesome game design work.
What people don’t talk about is back then you had to make everything yourself. There was no game engine. You needed to make the entire pipeline. So 11k sounds like a lot but they couldn’t boot up Unreal or Unity and start making a game. Had to learn graphics, physics, file management and then entire IO system.
Exactly. But don't expect this crowd to get that.
Just to clarify, he didn’t make diablo. Blizzard North made Diablo which was a completely separate group of people
ok
He made a real effort not to namedrop Warhammer in the interview.
Yup I don't think many people realize that's how Warcraft came about
Did he though? I think people overstate how influential Warhammer was to Warcraft. Sure, Warcraft 1 was originally going to be a Warhammer game, but they split off and started doing their own thing pretty quickly. After that it was an inspiration at most.
@@bilbobagend8155don't forget starcraft
Blizzard hired a bunch of the top-ranked EverQuest raiders of various classes when developing WOW.
They understood what made EQ great, and they understood what made EQ frustrating.
Obviously they were massively successful, but ironically they repeated the mistake of Warriors being the only viable raid tanks.
EQ for its difficulty and sense of community in group content makes me love the game more than any other MMO. Even to this day.
Do you really think it was a mistake or do you think it was a bunch of warriors from EQ just wanting their class to be like that in this game too lmao
@@whiteflame24 I mean, they definitely kept shaman and paladins banished to the shadowrealm forever because they hated them, so why not
In Burning Crusade druid in bear form was as good if not better tank and every f***ing warrior was crying like a little b**ch
@@HasturBeta Shamans in EQ were sick.
Funny how basically everything after the Activision acquisition has failed. WoW full of mtx, botting, gold buying and many more issues, OW2 is a corpse buried alive, SC2 dead, HoTs dead, Hearthstone dead, D4 was a joke and D2R was not developed by Blizzard. The funniest thing is people still hope Blizzard will make a comeback
The more new people you bring in to a company, and the more old timers who leave, the further away you get from the original goodness.
Blizzard is gone. The old timers are gone, the teams that built the great games are in different companies. Its never coming back.
Blizzard was on a downward slope before the acquisition started. Stop pretending xbox was the cause
You forgot Warcraft III Reforged. Imagine failing with re-releasing a game that was already a hit, probably a master piece of its time...
What's even more infinite than space and human stupidity? Greed.
Duh
They need a raid wipe of the designers. Maybe you could bring casuals back, and make it a fun game again. Another thing is the theme even Asmon notices with the FemBoy shit. It's a disgrace to the original 3. Obviously less so right after WOTLK, but that Panda race and Token were the beginning of the end. Now with Dragonflight, it's just full blow weeb shit. I like the combat, but the rewards, ques, design, progression..it's all about the endgame. Rant over.
It is a real shame how thoroughly the corporate money men can destroy every bit of a company that started with all the respect and goodwill from customers that anyone could ever want
Companies like Blizzard are far from "destroyed." They're still insanely profitable. Customer goodwill may have slipped, but most people you see complaining still keep buying their products so that doesn't even matter.
@@christianalanwilson434 it's unfair/unjust isn't it.
@@aaad3552 Yep, but if anyone ever told you life was fair, they flat out lied.
@@christianalanwilson434 yeh thats what i just said:/
@@christianalanwilson434 and yes its alot fairer then before.
Imagine being part of the dawn of a new technical age while 20 years old doing a start up in your garage and then making millions. Sure, it can maybe still be done today, but nothing like late 80s and early 90s.
Back when the nerds didn't own all the big companies already. Now they do which puts them in a better position to take advantage of any new tech before the 20 year olds can. Still, if you have a passion for something that you don't think the big companies are doing an adequate job of catering to, there is your opportunity.
You know a game called cuphead? Made by 2 people. If there is a will there is a way.
i still dont know how these interviews dont always end after 10 sec because the guy just says the truth ''meh i got super lucky and it worked''
The garage startup mythos is mostly bullshit. It's cover story for InQTel projects. Mostly famously, Zuck's Facebook was LifeLog developed by the U.S. military and Gates' Microsoft got a similar launch with his parent's connections and InQTel seed money.
What about stardew valley?
5:40 amazing how timeless that excuse is. even back in the 70s, kids were using it
Watch interviews with Brevik and his Wife, they paint a slightly different perspective on early Blizzard and what happened leading up to Activision basically ruining the company.
The writing was on the wall when the pvp enthusiasts and anyone who didn't tow the EQ line was outed, who would go on to form arena-net. Of course wow was make-or-break and needed to be "safe" but world pvp was so broken, it was like if Warcraft 3 TKers could follow you between matches. They considered that to be "working as intended." Their idea of being a l33t g4m3r was shooting fish in a barrel so it's no wonder that blizzard can't devise a pvp game to save their lives these days, all they have is their two-trick pony of cooldowns and asymmetric hard counters.
Hearthstone arena was fire though, before the ultra value cards made hand size largely irrelevant.
It’s really a shame how blizzard has warped into something unrecognizable from their prime. I never played blizzard games growing up because I literally believed I wouldn’t be able to stop playing them lmao, but I always had a respect from afar for them and I always knew that these guys were known for being top quality game devs making some of the best games in the world… how times have changed
i never played them because the design meant ''kids'' for me and i dont mean only actual kids but anyone with a kid mentality....the trolling that goes on WoW meant i was right
Victim of their own success. Like a lot of other AAA companies they got too big to fail, but also too big to succeed. So they're stuck playing it safe, making mid games for mid people while still raking in billions. If we aren't broke, why fix it?
Haha I quit wow in 2008 because I was worried it’d affect my a level grades. My buddy played throughout but made the smarter choice of learning programming. He’s making 150k+ a year now haha
"I had $11,000 leftover after school" fuck
Gotta love how Asmon turned an entire adventure games community in a matter of seconds
The only other RTS games that held a candle to games like Warcraft and Starcraft were Age of Empires, Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, Dawn of War, Command & Conquer, and more.
Empire at War was pretty good too.
It’s funnier to think that there was a period in our history where it was possible to leave college with 11k that didn’t have a negative sign in front of it. Multiply that number by 5 put a negative sign in front of it and that’s what most college grads leave college with today.
Was it possible to do this back in the day? Sure, but let’s not pretend that it’s still so easy anyone can go out and do it, because instead of 11k your grandparents would need to have well over 100k to lend you so you could end up with +22k after college. Factor in that now you’re not entering into a field with unlimited growth potential rather you’re entering a field where 90% of the work will be done by AI which will kill off 90% of the jobs available in the space in the next 4-10 years or sooner and you quickly start to see exactly how fucked the American dream has become.
There are far too many shit tier monopolies in our country, and nowhere near the level of regulation needed for the little guy to still have a chance. There is no reason why a college education should be run like a business, textbook companies being in bed with school boards who tell teachers they now have to write a new curriculum every semester to match the latest textbook which just jumbled the chapters from last semesters textbook to make the old textbook worthless and make it possible to charge 500$ for the same book should be criminal to the point where all the people involved should be rotting in prison. Instead we have a country where the people at the top pushed down the ladders they used to get where they are then offered hand ups only to their close friends and family.
Well yeah, if you entered into the gaming industry now it's not going to be the same as when they did it. You need to enter into an industry that is just starting to grow and hopefully, you chose the correct one and it results in massive growth.
You say this like every single person back then was successful just because of when they were born. Most new startups failed back then too, but the only examples given are the successes not the failures.
@@orangesaturn If you go for almost any industry now. The new model is set to keep turn over low or just not have any and keep a skeleton crew.
In the 90 start up companies were popping up left and right. Not a lot of people believed in the internet yet so taking the risk back then was FAR more lucrative for those who did.
you only hear of the successful ones cause a good majority of them were successful. And hand wiggle room to try again from a different angle or rebrand if not. Not like today where there's only a 10% chance of success.
It's nice to see and sad to see so many people choosing to just sit on the sidelines because of reasons they make up in their head of why they will never succeed anyway
This is all true for someone seeking a normal career but pretty irrelevant to anyone actually looking to start a business. You could leave a bank with 50k this afternoon if you had the idea and were willing to put in the work.
@@dWoj0 Whoa calm down with that before you go homeless. You would need collateral or decent credit if not both for that to work out. You would also have to plan for a budget of that size. Being nice. With 8% interest that 50k loan is now 77k after interest at 600ish a month. That's IF you get approved. And if you lie on the application then that a whole other story with legal ramifications.
I really like Asmon's mentality. "Yeah like complaining about other people having it and not you is going to do a lot for you" so true and very wise words
Every action starts with a word. So his mentality kinda crin, ges.
@@aaad3552 did you fall while making this comment?
Not really. Yeah, it would do a fuck ton for me, because I don't have it and having it would be really useful. You called one of Asmon's shitties takes "wise"
@0:44 "everybody asks for permission to succeed, meanwhile people who are successful just go out and do it" is a HUGE survivorship bias statement. The most successful tend to have taken on incredible risk, and through a mixture of skill and sheer luck came out on top. Those same people stand among platoons of others just like them, just as skilled, who tried and failed and are forgotten.
This is not survivorship bias because it is not a cognitive bias.
What you are describing is just a low % of success. If you don't just go out and do it, the % of success is near 0 since your results are averaged with everyone else in the economy. If you go out and do it, the % of success is still low, but at least you have a chance of succeeding.
It's like dating. If you don't interact with other people, your chances of dating are extremely close to 0%. Is it survivorship bias that people who have relationships meet other people? No, it's just a prerequisite for you to participate in a % chance of the desired result.
Not everyone who does that succeeds, but everyone who succeeds has done that. Its like if you want to have a chance of winning your event in the Olympics, you still have to qualify to compete. A lot of athletes never make it that far. But every single one in the winners circle had to go through that same process to stand where they are now.
Just 9 more excuses away from not being a loser.
This idea of "just go it" or "it's not that much money" are asinine. Me and my partner made card game that is great and original. But we're broke. If we had $11k to gamble, cause it is a gamble, we'd be on the 3rd or 4th game by now. And dealing with publishers is a nightmare and heartache.
temporarily embarrassed millionaires are everywhere in these comments
Man, that sucks. Anyway.
you`d be suprised how many devs dont even play their game. One issue even with helldivers 2 was " we need to get our devs to play the game so they understand the balancing"
Work ethic and culture surrounding games has shifted drastically over the years. A lot of devs treat it like any other 9-5 job now, where they do what they're needed for then forget about it until the next day. Which is understandable I guess, especially in bigger companies that don't give a shit about you, but for creative ventures like games its better to have people who are a least somewhat passionate about what they're making because it tends to show in the final product.
@@christianalanwilson434 thats what happened when ur selfish.
You don't understand how massive these games are and how difficult it is to drop a task mid sprint to play regularly.
01:00 the problem with that statement is, that you only hear about the successful people and never about the ones that failed, and I can assure you, that the ones that failed are vastly much more than just simply two
"If you try to make a game for everybody, you will get nobody"
Let that sink in... still, people do not understand this. And all they want is games that cater to EVERYBODY somehow. Just NO... thats not how it works.
This is the truth. A great game to me will not be great for someone else and vice versa. I don't want to play every game. I just want to play games made by people that understand me and the others like me that we will enjoy spending time playing. fallout new vegas is my favorite game of all time. i wish anything would come close to this.
You do realize that Allen actually said the exact opposite of what you are saying? He said that it was prevailing mindset of the developers at the time and blizzard rejected that and actually tried to make the game for everyone.
but they kindq did too, making very popular games like warcraft 3 or world of warcraft
@@ratherazexactly lol, this guy completely missed the point. He said that's what everyone thinks so he made a game for everyone and it worked.
Did you even watch the video? He said the complete opposite
True DEVs right now are not gamers they are just casuals
Bold assumption they even know what a game is.
Casuals are still gamers tho
Casuals? I wish. It seems like a fair amount of game devs actively hate games and gamers now. And with all the whiny gamer bois out there, I can't really blame them either.
@@christianalanwilson434More true than you know.
Egyptian parents emigrating to the US 50 years ago to work on their PHD is not growing up with a silver spoon. That's a huge risk they took and there is no way they were rich even by the standards of those times. People just need to believe that everyone who is successful was handed their success in order to cope with their own failure.
That said it's still 1000 times harder to achieve high level success if you weren't born into at least a middle class family, which almost doesn't exist anymore in the US.
Facts. Imagine being so lame you actually are mad at success of immigrants.
@@patrickboian8545they were successful before going to the US. Being an engineer and scientist and pursuing PhDs are not people going to America with nothing. The US just had more and better opportunities for them to use their skills which are in white collar roles. I’m not mad because I enjoy science and may do a PhD in my life in the career I am in and I wasn’t handed a silver spoon but I can see he had some privileges such as a father in engineering who encouraged his pursuit into computer science
@@pwners4u My bad I thought it said they came here and became those things. My hearing is terrible on a good day.
Doesn't really matter if you're multi millionaire from China coming over to study or millionaire in the US. You still a millionaire lol
He easily described the faults and problems with the gaming industry, or rather the quadruple A industry.
Who would've thought that you should hire talented people to create art. Who would've thought that gaming devs should have actual fucking passion for the games they make. Man, what surprise. Glad this interview exists, thank you.
41:20 "It turns out that games and hedge funds are similar in many ways." Everything about the industry makes so much sense.
Well yeah, development costs basically amount to putting money into a game & hoping it gives you your investment back.
@@StarDragonJP I was making the gigantic mental leap that MMORPGs and in game economies were closely studied in order to predict and/or manipulate markets. He speaks of AI in the clip. Blackrock's Aladdin comes to mind.
Man. Being a kid for the golden age of blizzard was amazing. Diablo 2, wc3, starcraft 1, and wow was amazing. Truly sad how things turn out.
What happened to the story in SC2? I didn’t like it all.
Great interview! Could listen to him all day.. Like his game philosophy, he speaks simply enough that casuals can understand his ideas, but when applied correctly they can be incredibly potent and effective
Man, listening to him talk, the Blizzard we see now is a far cry from the old Blizzard. It takes me back to early 2000s, how I was so excited to play Warcraft 3 DEMO, not even the full version, and how incredible it was, and it still is. Thinking about it now, the old WoW, Starcraft and Diablo, they were all reflections of the passionate gamers, nerds who were making them back in the day. Now, It's all souless, dull and empty. Which is why It's been years since I quit WoW, the same time I stopped playing any of their other games.
When the company, and the people in it change (in a bad way), everything they touch turns to sh*t. Activision Blizzard is a great example of how you take something so amazing, and promising, and destroy it so utterly, so completely that there's nothing left of its former self.
there is no blizzard. there is only microshaft.
dont u mean Microshit?
Feels like a megashaft to me
Don'f forget that Bobby and Activision paved the way. MS is just the one holding the whip now.
Think you missed the point about that guys first comment…the guy is waxing lyrical about how tough he had it and Themis guys point out how he didn’t….same thing you did to the person typing this except you don’t even know his situation and he wasn’t complaining how hard he had it
Asmondgold is actually so anti-broke. I love his video game takes but holy shit. It's not rocket science to understand that having parents with an extremely high level of education, compared to one's that do not ans with any amount of disposable currency. Like yea that's fucking privilege?! As long as he did what he needed to do, the man was handed a future without a fucking doubt.
He’d probably ban you off TH-cam if he could for this comment.
Asmon needs to talk to Sam Harris, unlikely crossover but Sam could really change his mind on this whole “all you need is hard work” mentality when it comes to success.
@@RobinLundqvist i think its better to at least try it for yourself. At least put in the effort so you can discover the truth with your own eyes.
@@RobinLundqvistSam Harris. Lol. Lmao even.
30K in 1992 is about 68K now. Not a huge amount really ... sept to people who begrudge others for their lack of supportive family or their own sad skillset and/or ethic.
I will always hate the idea that normal ppl have access to starting capital “so just go start a company idiot lol” it’s not realistic for many many ppl. However, having the balls to throw everything you have into an idea is indeed real shit.
honestly Asmongold is growing increasingly out of touch. I use to feel he was down to earth. I am not mad that these people got money to make their dream company, as well has supportive people in there life that helped them. But in saying that most people if given these coniditions would likely to find some kind of success wiether that be a company, become a ground breaking scientist, or invest that money growing thier wealth. I feel asmongold has internalized the ideas people have about the poor and homeless, being a individual problem when it is both a societal problem and to lesser exstent a enviromental one.
The money is possibly not the problem but the amount of competitors in almost every field. The early 90's to 2000's was wild because there was space to grow and create new stuff. Now ? Everything is oversaturated, almost everything has already been tried once before.
@@Hoenir Money is still the most important factor, but sure being born before the tech boom does factor in too.
@@Hoenir we're at the ''completing side-quests after the game is done'' phase of the world
@@kokocaptainqc Indeed we are. That's a nice way to put it hahaha
Big games can be fun but it doesn't have to be big and expensive to be fun. That's why these days I prefer to support indie developers who are passionate about their game and come out with a game that is actually fun and won't burn a hole in your wallet.
People always forget that "simple" does not mean "easy"
yep....money is the fdifference
what i took from this is that most modern developers do around 10% of work compaired to original blizzard staff. the passion just isnt there
Adjusted for inflation (2024), Blizzard started with 50K USD.
Still not that much, but 25k is a lot of money to ask from your grandma 😂
Just take your $50k that you have and go make games. It’s not hard guys. /s
Make up more reasons why your life is in the gutter
@@boiledruebansub project harder lmao.
@@BraveBob13 make up 9 more reasons why your life isn't where it needs to be.
3:46
Prob the response you made "saying dang, that's crazy" assuming there were poor bro that they came from egypt. Im not sure where those thoughts formed to make those comments you made were. Both were intelligent parents and a child who was thankful that they gave him the opportunity to be successful.
It's genuinely not hard to understand that he was successful in funding that venture because of that money.
The money he invested was 25k money THAT WAS COLLEGE MONEY BTW + the money that his friends chipped in.
If he did started any later to make that jump the employees that worked for blizzard would be working been in competitors side and WOW would never be the game that we know today.
That's why he is thankful for the opportunity that to happen, He even said any normal parents would had been against that venture.
I do think that guy was projecting but he is correct.
Part of the hiring interview should be playing video games to prove you’re not a shitter 😂
I want every parent/soon to be parent to go to @4:30 and listen to what this man said. And listen to it well
"My parents encouraged me" encourage your fucking kids
Celebrating new years in WoW is totally somethign a loser would do, glad to lable myself that
While you are right that unironically many games release incomplete today, in this video, the shot of the boxes of games with the stickers, 'Game Complete' references those used games having all the original box contents. The stickers added to indicate to customers that the what's in the box was 100% of the original game; there were some boxes in that store with other stickers indicating 'Game Missing Manual' and etc. This practice is still done today in places like 2nd hand stores, flea markets, antique shops.
That's a why a lot of games today suck the people making then don't actually play video games so they have no idea what is fun.
"If you replace WIlly Wonka with Jigsaw you would only have to change like half the scenes."
I will never unsee that, Thank You.
"its probobly under 200k thats not alot"
ok dawg
it takes me more than 10 years to see that amount pas in my hands...close to 20 years even
Its closer to 23k.. and its not a lot
@shaunb-xl4uy
Where I'm from 23K is about 7 years of average income.
But luckily today anyone can really make games for alot less especially when you are still young and don't have many responsibilities.
There's definitely ways to make it if you work hard enough.
Good thing all your dev tools are completely free these days, and you don’t need an office, and you clearly already have a computer and internet. Looks like you need exactly 0 more dollars to start.
@Knight3434 Exactly
I might not have 23K but I'm a student and have free time, and I'm sure I know people who are down to try something new before we finish college, what's to lose?
Having that 11k+ the 11k his friend borrowed from his grandma did play a part in them succeeding. However they wanting to make a game played the biggest part. It was they who wanted it and worked for it. They who spent hours into the games they made. It was their ambition, perseverance, and love for making games that ultimately factor into their success. Respect to them.
What people don't take into account is also the cost of everything in todays world, cost of workers, space, tools to develop games, and how much harder it is to compete on the market today
temporarily embarrassed millionaires are everywhere in these comments
@@kingkarlito they r true though.
I mean it doesnt benefit them to think the truth.
Barrier to entry is non existent, making it harder.
This full on made me open my eyes and see what’s really going on and really this guy is actually right and well now I know why the ever living fuck the games aren’t good because they don’t cater to the gamers they are trying to appeal to the non-gaming market it’s the same for how Xbox had that press thing and how the woman who was asked the question of “how does this effect gamers in the future for Xbox?” And well she gave a boring answer because they didn’t want to appeal to gamers at all they are going for shareholders and all the people who are super casuals or the people who DON’T play any games at all and or the people who get home to blow of some time before they have to go to work or etc and from hearing and seeing this it’s opened my eyes to it now,I wonder why I can’t stand games that have so much crap in them than actual content made for people who are gonna sit down and take the time to play the game through.
Chatters calling the dude "weak" and "rookie" for playing 2-4hrs a day. That's probably on top of a 12hr workday. Like is he not supposed to sleep??!! lol
They're children
"Their prime was when Overwatch was popular" - one of the comments. Lad you have no idea... WoW had posters in trains around the world, Malls had a large portion of there foot traffic from teenagers buying monthly game passes. You have no idea.
Imagine gamers across all platforms chasing content in a single game.
It's not about WHAT you know. It's about WHO you know.
Heck of an interview. One of your better clips of a clip.
*Such a shame, blizzard used to be so great but got spoiled by corpo greed* 😥😥😥
14:48 - Rock'n Roll Racing and Blackthorn are classics. Rn'R R was and still is THE RACING game on SEGA MD II, at least for me.
I guess he could overlooked them because they were not fantasy themed games.
Please all remember that despite all the bad; good memories are still real , hell there could be a time where the name could be associated with quality once again (likely with different hands), even if the talent is different.
yeah no
Under Microsoft? XD
impossible....but the early days players will keep finding ways to be positive and they would keep doing it even if the game servers were open 1 day a week and the only gameplay left would be standing in a prison room with only the void outside the window bars....even then the core WoW players would still defend it
There is imho something that does not quite fit into the story of how Allen and Mike first met. Either Mike knew beforehand what Allen's password was (he had to type It to unlock the computer), or Allen forgot to lock his computer. I think the second option is more plausible: Mike was sitting near Allen. He noticed Allen forgot to lock his computer, so Mike decided to play a small prank on him. Mike later found he never changed the pass and both were using the same.
So you're telling me, Blizzard got this big, because it...hired...gamers...? Instead of political activists??? To make video games?!?!?! Naaaaahhh that can't be right.
Earth worm Jim is extremely nostalgic for my video game journey. Iconic!
Opportunity is when hard work meets luck. He was incredibly privileged but also incredibly talented and driven.
A lot of people also lack the hustle to make things happen. Its very easy to smoke weed all day and complain on the internet, its a lot harder to leave your comfort zone and take risks. Which is why the vast majority of chatters and commenters are never going to get anywhere in life besides the dumpster.
The sad sad truth is, that there are way too many people willing to spend that kind of money. I know guys who've spent tens of thousands of dollars on csgo skins. They typically got gambling addictions. Some of them will pay in full for a knife skin knowing that they are more likely to spend 100x trying to open crates for it. So there are plenty of people willing to spend thousands on a knife in cs, but a lot of these people also know they can resell the item on steam and get like 70% of their money back after valve takes their cut of the sale. Or they can use third party trading sites to sell it for the full price and get back all the money or sometimes more or less depending on how the items value fluctuates.
League doesn't allow you to resell things but I imagine you could sell the whole account to a collector later on.
Moral of the story microtransactions suck ass and we need to go back to the halo 3 days of unlocking customization through achievements in game. Maybe someday there will be a game like that, but it's definitely not coming from AAA
Asmon shutting down whiny excuses was hilarious.
0:54 I looked it up and $22k in 1991 would only be about $50k in 2024. So it really wasn't THAT much money for a game company
People arent REALLY complaining about the money. They are just upset because they don't harbor skills or drive. Unreal engine is free and there are TH-cam tutorials. They just don't want to look in the mirror at themselves.
u need to watch this 1 hour whole video without skipping , yeah ..serious
3:38 that call out was great.
15:53 Wise words - A game made for everyone, is a game made for no one.
23:26 A developer interested in what people are playing? what people enjoy?
24:24 If you want to make a game company,hiring gamers is a good idea!
Now its all about the investors, and how to squeeze every penny out of consumers
the hint was the fact that they changed customer for consumer...now a good 85% of people also say consumer and forgot the word customer even existed....
As someone that went to university and studied games design I think a big part of the problem is that, with gaming as an industry becoming mainstream, employment at industry-level studios is often locked behind education. And the way that game development is being taught puts a huge focus on all of the uneccessary complexity and social politics factors. You don't learn how to make games your taught how to appeal to modern audiences. We even got told that the games had to have coherent back stories and that everything had to thematically make sense. It's crazy - like Mario was an Italian plumber jumping around on turtles and mushroom men. If you submitted mario in a games design class today you'd fail.
00:49: 'People who are successful go out and just do it' ---> best possible advice ever 😉
Preach, too many complainers now a days
How did you make one of the most successful games in history.
-Blizzard founder; i played my own game.
-Minecraft founder; i played my own game.
-Idie devs; i play my own game.
-Terraria devs; we play our own game
-No mans sky devs; we played are own game and we thought we could do better.
-literally most souls game developer; we played our own game.
I mean i don't know im not a game developer, but its pretty mutch a given fact developers should be playing there game more, and modyfying it properly.
This is why i said in my comment in another video; " if i would have the money in a game studio i will pay all workers for 2 hours to play the game as a requirment while in the job "
And maybe would put it to 3 or 4
It's because gameing gives you a practical very clear idea, what to do and where to do it, and why.
This is why starborne is amazing even if its made by one dev.
Its because the dev actually play the game; as with most indie titles.
That's why their fun.
This is why indie devs stonks, because they are gammers before a coporate employee who happens to be able to make games.
Gotta disagree with Asmons rant to an extent. It really is rigged against you. Success is an extremely rare thing and money doesnt go near as far today. Its easier to be a small developer but the market is so flooded with games that you really need a viral hit. Most businesses now operate at a loss for years, and very few people can sustain such a loss before making a profit.
Only rigged against you if you don't have money, unlike this guy who had a well off mommy and daddy. Asmon even bootlicked for that guy during a video that frames it as this guy struggling.
Its nowhere near as easy as it use to be to be middle class. Ive watched friends be forced into apartments while still maintaining the same career. Just noticing..
23:23 The referral program (*cough*backdoor hiring) resulted in lack of thorough gamer-type vibe check. Went from smart/strategic games to troll/shooter-centric games.
Never sell your companies.
Bioware sold to EA
That is another bad example of selling to the wrong people.
I'm so happy to see that people start to look at the golden moments of gaming again and admire it's genuine will and joy to be creative.
There was a time where a game stood for a whole world even if it was small and it just captivated us to an extent where we knew something special is going on.
And they paid peanuts to programmers... just a thought
They should bring that back
They could of left at any time. No one forced them.
2024 is good? Returned to CS2
The newest animal crossing definitely suffered. New Leaf was the peak of the series. Sometimes people want the same game, but looking better and with more accessories.
Asmon dropping hard L's in this one. The founder was literally hand held by the best in the gaming industry and walked by those founders into it, had extreme wealth as a child with no consequence for his failure, resources to begin handed to him with no effort, and 80's economy. It was literally handed to him. Not only is it 50K in modern terms, but 50k doesn't get you EVEN ONE of the things he talked about: no office for 50k, no employee for 50k, you might get the hardware and tech licenses for someone at that price point, but not several. And no amount of money is going to get the current generation of good game developers to bring you on and take you under their wing. The accessibility and cost of things doesn't increase linearly with inflation.
Lol. If only the barrier to entry was as difficult as you say. It would make my job easier.
Thank you for sharing this Asmongold
"I had 11k left over from my college fund" LMAO. The privilege in that statement is insane
Keep coping. Just 9 more complaints and you will no longer be a loser.
Currently waiting for why you are not changing your life and instead you're addicted to anime and pretending that you are Patrick Bateman. Come on, let's hear it.
Imagine if your parents loved you.
@@johnjackson9767 imagine being that privileged and having such an easy life without real hardships lol. Nothing you ever do is your own.
On the whole Bloodborne topic, we dont need a remake and we dont need 2. A remake is gonna require intended game mechanics or the like to change, and while im not a lore buff on one of my most faved games, changing certain items like the just resting at a lamp or not going to the Hunters Dream to level could unintentionally change lore or correct it and shine light on what it was meant to be. Idk about the lore point, i fight internally all the time about it even though resting to respawn enemies or to just go to a new area would be a qol improvement. The famous “oh we need a 2” has always been a fat no, since Miyazaki has said he doesn’t like revisiting ip’s. Dark souls 2 was not done by him, dark souls 3 was fan service and demons souls was training wheels for dark souls. Plus if a sequel did get pumped out, its not gonna be as good as the first and itll be debated for years to come, i mean look at dark souls 2. So in essence a remaster maybe with new content, 60 fps on console and pc port is all this world needs. Also a save file transfer would sell even harder for me.
My favorite part of this video is Asmongold absolutely torching the people who'd rather be a victim than actually go out and do the work that it takes to succeed.
This is typical survivorship bias. Let's use a complete moonshot like Blizzard as a measurement for everyone's work accomplishments. Realize that there are a lot of people doing hard work that do not succeed and that hard work itself is not the sole factor for success.
Agreed! Here's hoping that lame mind-set dies off and people nut up. Way too many people making way too many excuses = widespread failure.
Pointing out something isn't being a victim. You guys are making an issue out of nothing
Same, it honestly gets the vein that runs along the top of my 🐔 pumping when he addresses the fact that people are so helpless and have completely turned into infants. Even if the people that are complaining HAD 50 grand wired to them, they would STILL not find success, and they know this deep down.
temporarily embarrassed millionaires are everywhere in these comments
“Perfection is achieved when there is nothing left to take away.”-Antoine de Saint-Exupéry had to look this up. I've heard it in relation to engineering wherein a more complex mechanism can be more failure prone because you have more possible points of failure. The design example I remember most clearly is the analog clock without numbers and a single line to mark 12. The flip side is knowing when not to merge functionality together to reduce part numbers.
Asmon has really lost sight of how much of a struggle the average person has. If I have a random 12k given to me right now I could get my own mechanic shop started. Instead I'm working at a dealership as a mechanic for $14 an hour. I have a degree in mechanics. Everyone said trade skills were where the money was at. They def had a huge leg up with a 22k starting fund. I make $50 a month in disposable income, so I'll have that kind of start up privilege in 36.666666667 years. And that's not adjusting for the fact that 22k isn't near as much now as it was then. If i dont pay for internet then I can knock that down to 13 years I guess, but then I have to live a dull and miserable life and i'll be 50 years old before I can have the internet again, all so I can save up as much money as these guys were basically given from wealthy parents. So yea they have a privilege, and I have it better off than some guy on the streets. My point is America shouldn't be set up this way. All the money funneled to the top, billionaires get richer, and the middle class is basically gone and now trade skilled labor is making what should be minimum wage because it barely affords my one bedroom apartment.
When he says shit like this it's just super cringe. Millionaires have no idea what it is like for the average person and that's fine, but he shouldn't pretend like we have it so easy just because we aren't in a third world country. It's easy to not see how shit this country has become when you are viewing it from a pile of money. When did American slogan become "Not as bad as a third world country".
At the end of the day, he's a conservative. Conservatives are truth proclaimers, not truth seekers. They refuse to acknowledge the existence of institutional hurdles and blame every problem on individual failure even when there's a mountain of evidence in front of them proving that the problems are coming from the people they defend: billionaires and the ultra wealthy.
They think life is supposed to suck unless you work hard enough to become wealthy. So many conservatives I've talked to think there are a ton of people who actually deserve to not eat or afford to live simply because they work entry level jobs like fast food. They're invested in themselves, their ego, and their family, not the country or anyone else. Their perception of humanity is cynical and their vision for our potential is incurious and limited.
Asmon is more level headed than the average conservative but he still has it wrong in this area because he's rich and able to avoid the consequences of institutional collapse.
@@OmarFW I think he's fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Interesting he knew the people who started Interplay.
Imagine if they could have combined the companies and staved off Interplays bankruptcy.
Maybe Bethesda wouldn't own the Fallout franchise.
Of course it could also mean Activision Blizzard might own the Fallout franchise and who knows what Bobby Kotick would have done with it.
4:00 easy up Asmongold, the average college graduate is going to be $100K in debt, saddled with $1500+ a monthly payments. No bank is going to loan a fresh 22 year old graduates with $100K in debt ANOTHER $100K to start a business.
Go back to slurping your supersize soda, and the the comfortable life you now have from literally playing video games and giving your "sage" wisdom over other creators' hard work on TH-cam.
Imagine going to college willingly and getting into that kind of debt.
@@johnjackson9767 I can't. I went to college in the 90's, when tuition at a public university was $6,000 a year adjusted for inflation. Asmongold likely spends much of his day "working," if you can call playing games and giving his opinion working. However, he also discounts the luck of being at the right place and time for channels accumulating subscribers and being profitable.
1991! THAT WAS LIKE 70 YEARS AGO
I'm from '91 and feel like I'm 80, so you're probably right!
Yeah... '91 was actually a century ago
Bro lived lit. In the previous century lmao @@knighthood91
Can you even do math? It was at least 150 years ago
Soviet union crumbled at this year.
Yoshi P said something similar to "Go" and "Chess", something on the lines of playing Mario single-player verses playing it with a friend changes the game completely even though the same rules apply.
in any game im a completionnist so this makes me play solo ALL THE TIME because i simply cannot play with someone who isnt a completionnist without having my blood pressure go through the roof
In innately PVP games like Go and Chess, playing solo would essentially be teaching yourself / reviewing old games to get better at them, no?
Unless you mean an AI program and, while AlphaGo "solved" Go and Chess has had its AI programs for many decades, yeah it really isn't the same as playing with another person
This isn't about complaining, few people have the priviledge to do what he did. He came from a hyper educated family, had money and access to good education. Not all of us can do this and we should say this LOUDLY.
Not just that, he had a friend that made frickin interplay. It helps a lot to see your friends succeed and gives a huge motivational boost. The opportunity to make games was there for them in the form of a computer, which was really expensive back then. All these things it might not have been the deciding factor but they definitely helped. In the end you still have to actually go through with it and do it, but Asmongold reacting like that is just him being a bit of a dumdum.
It's not privileged, it's kickstart/quick start. "privileged" is use only to justify hatred or/and envy to other people, including those, who have hardcore start, still get results.
Dude you can literally say that about anything- IQ is a thing, physical talents are a thing.. Everyone has their own talents.. But yeah, IQ is hereditary so having good/smart parents is great, but discipline and hard work is earned.. And they literally did coding while in Junior high, while we have university students taking loans and not even thinking about how to pay it back.. While others work part time at the same time..
If you have a smart device and are in a society where you are able to study until University level (even with a student loan) then you are privileged... Sure you might have a lukewarm IQ but u can still get a degree, simply the question was if you were smart enough to choose a good degree or an useless one.. Although those with IQ will generally do better, so I guess if you are complaining about the unfairness, then you are pretty much calling for smart people to be lobotomized.
Yea and some people are born without limbs, we are so privileged
@@KoinzellGaming There are things you can work on as a society to even the playing field for the things you can change. Currently there are WAAAAY more opportunities for game development than back then but getting to the heights of Blizzard is much more difficult. Coding while in junior high isn't even an achievement these days. Back then there was way less competition and fewer sharks in the tank.
The limbs loss or things you're born with comparison is a room temperature iq take.
25:12 "I don't need to play games to have the magic of creativity to come up with great ideas, I went to school and "studied" hard and went into massive amounts of debt to acquire this slip of paper that claims I'm an expert in this topic." And that's what has been happening and that is why everything in the industry is turning to shit. Passion and integrity was replaced with wokeness and obedience/dictation. This is what happens when game dev companies go corpo, sacrifice the soul for greed.
Also think about this, let's say Blizzard has 2 positions open (same job type) and they go through the hiring process with someone who is a hardcore gamer with years of experience in being a self taught developer. Then you have someone who just put in the 4 years to get a bachelors degree and is desperate to land a job to start paying off their debt. Both of these people get hired, which one do you think is going to be a better employee? The self taught individual with a passion to prove themselves and knows they were lucky to be hired, or the desperate college graduate who barely had time to play video games and probably believes Blizzard would be lucky to have them and deserved to be hired. I'd rather the person who comes into work with ideas pouring out of their ears ready to take on the day over the person who is just dreading to come in to just collect a paycheck.
Most game companies hire the former over the latter. But you would know that if you've ever worked in industry.
Dude's a first gen immegrant and people are crying about his parents actually succeeding in America and loving their son.
Irrelevant. He still only got where he was because his parents gave him money. He wouldn't have been able to do it without that. Oh, and his partner borrowed money from his grandmother. They both were privileged.
@@gimphandjeff What's wrong with being privileged? If your world view is that of a jealous victim it might be irritating to you, but you can't objectively give me a reason why being privileged is bad or wrong.
55:20 Anyone knows what event Asmon's talking about here?