Great idea to move that usb to the face of the seat! Remember that coffee maker has to be filled with water and I like it near the sink. Love the idea of the 12v fridge. Wish they could add a second opening window in the bedroom but we do like the window at your head but I also like cabinets over the bed. This is a nice unit! We love our keystone Cougar 25RES! They really need to move the spare tire from the current location to the rear to lessen the pin weight and give you more room in the front compartment.
Great looking 5th Wheel… Finally, the table & chairs option includes four matching chairs, instead of two fold-aways. And yes - good job Cougar on listening about adding the door blinds! Agree on the location of the USB plugs - should be on the front or center console area of the recliner (but not on the inside where you will hit it with a leg).
Our usb plugs are inside the center console, which isn’t perfect but much better than on the side! I would also recommend the 12 volt fridge if you always have hookups but the two way if you do any boon docking! I love the floorplan as is, but it would be nice if the carpet-less slides matched the floor pattern😕
@@Erin-Thor Most people probably wouldn’t want to add the expense of 4 batteries, 400 watts of solar and a generator for rainy days to run a fridge that size when they could just use a two way fridge, but it is possible👍
@@Erin-Thor I’ve camped off grid since the 1960s when I was a kid and I still camp off grid for a week with 2 batteries, a 100 watt solar panel and a Honda 2,000 just in case, because rain tends to follow me☹️I would need to spend thousands more for two lithium batteries and several hundred watts of solar to use a 12 volt fridge since I camp in wooded areas that tend to partially block the sun for several hours a day. I have not seen the problems with fires that you have with two way fridges, but I’m sure a lack of maintenance could cause problems. 12 volt compressor fridges are relatively new, but it gives all of us another option to pick from as long as we fully understand what it will take to operate them. You seem to be right on top of things, but it is amazing how many people think they can camp off grid with the single battery and a 100 watt solar panel😬
The 12V fridge will EASILY handle boondocking, you just have to set up differently. We use a SINGLE AGM, no solar, and could easily over night with the fridge without issues. Max run time on the AGM was 44 hours. Now, the new owners of our previous RV upgraded to a single 100AH lithium, a 30A mppt, and a 190W solar panel. They routinely boondocks in excess of a week WITHOUT ISSUE. For less than $1000 you can easily set up a workable solar for a full 12V RV. And, it's VASTLY safer. I can't even count how many trailers I pulled off the side of the road, or out of boondocking areas, that where totalled from fridge fires. People forget to shut it off when driving, or think it's perfectly safe. I'm sure it is, IF you keep the space behind the fridge clean, especially from cob webs or mud dauber nests. It's time people stopped giving bad information about 12V fridges when they've never used one. And don't just listen to me, go look at any off grid channel.. guess what.. 12V fridge, basic solar panel, single or double batteries. Every. Last. One!
@@krisbeaver2901 In my over 4 decades of RVing I have never experienced problems with a two way fridge and I have camped off grid for weeks at a time and driven thousands of miles, but that was when most people were capable of maintaining their own RVs. I totally understand your concern though, because in today's world most people are fortunate if they can even unlock their door👍
@Steve Z. Thanks for your response. I should have been clearer in my post. I've camped since the 70's when I could walk, and just before the CV I got into my first RV. I have however spent more than 2 years as a recovery and tow truck operator in 2 states. Over the years of pretty much constant road trips for coast to coast military moves, then working tow, I've seen and/or pulled probably close to 100 burned up rv's, either from sites, off grid, or on the highways. The vast majority of those where fridge fires. I will never trust a 2 way fridge, especially when there is a safer, and cheaper, alternative. I've talked to plenty of people like yourself who've done decades with them without issue, other than the fun of levelling perfectly..lol I'm the same mindset against a specific brand that everyone raves about that I've seen have some pretty major build failures, to the point I'd never own one. When it comes to fridges, I'm glad there are options out there for people to be able to camp how they want, and plenty of channels to show you how to do it safely. But that comes with having all the information available to help make the right decision for yourself. Me.. we're only over-night or three Boondockers, since my wife is a serious glamper. For us, it's the 12V everytime, especially now with the bigger sizes. The 10.7 cu ft was awesome, but I'm looking forward to a 14 in our new fifth wheel.
The big backside comment broke me. LMAO. That is part of the reason I am watching campers I am not looking at getting anytime soon. Thanks for the laugh.
Not sure how I feel about 3 burner stoves but I'm glad it's in the middle so I have some room to cook. Replace dinette table with an extending one. Replace tub with one that doesn't have that stupid seat. I never sit in the shower or put one of those folding wooden ones. I'd definitely get a combo washer/dryer and keep that pantry space.
Awesome...a huge 12 volt fridge, an actual Queen size bed, and a shade in the door window...say no more, Cougar makes great rv's. Oh and I agree that the USB outlets in the theater seat are definitely in a bad spot.
It’s kind of funny how much I like this one. When they first came out with it for whatever reason I had a chip on my shoulder about this model. I just didn’t make sense to me. But I never really gave it a chance and went through it like this I think I really earned a lot of respect for me
Really appreciate knowing things like color coordinated wiring. As a former design engineer, knowing they have that kind of attention to detail gives Keystone a plus in my book.
Regulations on regulations, you nailed it. Leave it gubbmint to be super overbearing / controlling, wasteful & redundant. Lol. Great camper! Love the off grid options & storage. Tyfs!
I normally don't commit much on TH-cam but I can honestly say because of you josh I know when I get ready to buy a fifth wheel it's going to be this model and I'm going to take the 5 hour drive up to cold water just so I can buy it from bish and hopefully you are able to be there so I can at least shake your hand thank you for putting out so much great information.
Gorgeous rig. That fridge rocks. My 260 RD ran if for a week on solar and 200ah lithiums in rainy weather with life to spare. I have to agree with the USB port location. They should be out of the way to avoid the potential of damaging the plug or jack.
Well first of all I’ll probably have nightmares about you popping out from under the bed in my Grand Design 5er but when you talked about Uncle Gary and the Cougar I spit out my sweet tea!
I 100% agree with you on the USB plug placement. Our couch at home has it on the outside and it's hard to get to with the side table or a wall. By your legs just feels weird. Coming out the front is ideal. Good call Josh!
Sweet❗😍 Love everything about it! Prefer table over booth, ty! Refrig ✔ W/D option✔ Bedroom windshield & short wardrobe slide✔ Right size, features ✔✔&✔ ❗ Oooolala
I don’t have a problem with the side faucet in the bathroom… I love the new gooseneck style on this one. We have a 2021 cougar and the faucet is short. I agree with you about having a fan exhaust above the bed… although I would prefer the second air conditioner.
Uncle Gary will like it - Cougar with the big back end! Haha 😂 ! Written at the beginning of the video , then you mentioned near the end of it! I must be psycho... um... I mean psychic 😉
I personally think they should be on the faceplate by the cup holders. Maybe have the lighted so they can easy to find or make a little light . Great looking camper… My other thoughts is wish they could put a couple tubes on the wall of the under compartment. To store the bag chairs . Blessings from Gettysburg Pa..
I very much appreciate the description area of the specs and time stamps...this really helps as I was cutting/pasting the opening pics of the video for future reference...now I don't have to do that. I saw another video review that showed a dual lounge chair where the buttons were toward the end of the top arm rest; yet another option. In one of your latest reviews, you showed a removable center rest...I really like that option for snuggling purposes. YES, YES, YES on the bottom up door shade. 12V, 16 cu ft fridge!!! Nailed it...always worried about food staying cold/frozen while traveling down the road. Add to that the concern about having the RV perfectly leveled for propane purposes; this eliminates all of that. More battery power? Yes, of course. I'd like to know what combination of LiFePO4 and solar pkg would handle that? A small thing, but for the life of me, it doesn't cost that much to make the pantry shelves adjustable/more functionable...thank you Keystone! I particularly like the side faucet; gives more usable sink space for my hands after getting them wet and soaped up, rather than having to move my hands to the side to get out of the way of the faucet; functionality trumps looks. Appreciate calling out the no-king bed (I'll assume you meant RV King) option, BUT true queen std. What is the size difference between the 2? *** Thanks for your suggestions for boondocking with reference to the MBR * 2nd AC (more power needed) * Max Air vent fan (vs just a vent, no air draw) * Gas/Electric 2-way 12 cu ft, 4-door fridge (with the intent to use mainly electric; gas as a b/u in case you're low on battery) *** Which means... just a little more solar & check the amount of batteries to handle this A "real" battery disconnect switch; simple, but usually added by owner afterward.
Got to agree on the USB, I wish designers made USBs to insert parallel vs perpendicular to the wall. Fridge is awesome 12v please, really like this one a couples camper. With the occasional guest. Thx!
A good thing to note: The factory 2nd air is superior to the aftermarket AC because it is ducted. Aftermarket AC will blow directly into the bedroom. Not terrible, it's just noisier. I love the 12v fridge! This was the one I was ready to sign and take delivery on in May of last year. Then my local dealer's Finance Manager went all used car salesmen on us so my wife and I walked. Then prices went up like 15 grand. Can't win for losing sometimes. I may have my dignity, but I don't have the RV. :(
Preferences would be 12v fridge and 400i OTG package. Also, I agree on the USB ports in the theater seats needs to be somewhere that could be more protected from damage
The other half says the headboard and wall/window in the bedroom is "pretty" and she likes it very much. I think you should have emerged from under the bed wearing a cheap red cape and vampire fangs. That's nice that Keystone lets you guys "factory" install solar packages - we'd option for the 1.21 GW package, of course. That would be package #37, I believe. We'd seriously be interested in this one if not for the floor vents or the name "Cougar".
l prefer the 12V fridge. i love the thearter seating as you know and prefer the table and chairs over the dinette. love the placement of the oven with prep space on each side. love they have the ability to have a washer dryer combo unit and the ability to keep some pantry room. love the big shower, and drawers in the bathroom. the sink placement doesnt bother me. love the bedside cabinets. id prefer the 2 way max air vent fan in the bedroom as i need fresh air blowing in my face when i sleep. great cabniet space in the slide. fridge avability in road mode is important, especially if your transporting littles or diabetics who need to eat a little more often than normal peeps. only thing i dont like here is climbing stairs to go to the bathroom evert time! they need to make a main floor bathroom then use stairs up to the bedroom. id do with a bit less living and bedroom space to have a mainfloor bath.
I absolutely want the 12 volt fridge. I like my ice cream and propane fridges really struggle with the heat and humidity in the summer here. No contest especially given how solar panels and lithium batteries have dropped in price.
It's just the name which is obviously working to imply half-ton towing but the name itself isn't really an indicator of the recommended vehicle I *love* Cougar RVs. I really don't like the name though
This is a nice looking unit, I definitely think the lighter colors make it look more spacious. I agree about those USB ports - the current placement is not user-friendly. They need to be moved to the front or onto the console. I'll go ahead & pick that nit in the bathroom cabinet - they definitely need to put in a couple more shelves. You can never have too many shelves for hair/nail/skin care products & everyday toiletries! The fridge looks nice but I'm not a fan of the side-by-side arrangement, since the shelf space is small on both sides. I prefer the 4-door fridge or if you're going residential, then I like the french door with the freezer on the bottom. Oh, and as an Iowa native (not living there now), the winds do HOWL! (the Spring Howlers!)
Josh, First let me say, great video. You are the master! If I understand correctly, there is only one grey tank? We currently have the 23mls fifth wheel, small and sweet. I hate the galley tank. I would love to have had just one grey tank. Please verify if I'm understanding correctly. Thanks and keep up the great work.
@@JoshtheRVNerdTwo gray tanks but one outlet? I guess I'm confused. We have to hook up two sewer hoses to empty into the sewer. Our previous fifth wheel, a Jayco Mlok, only had one sewer hose to hook up but it had two gray tanks. I think this was a better set up. I suppose it's all about trade offs.
Love it, great colors, layout, and storage, but do not like black appliances, remember camping adds more dirt and those would be nightmare with fingerprints and hate mirrors on closet doors, pain to keep clean.
Our 2019 Cougar 27SGS has the bathroom faucet centered behind the sink.With the medicine cabinet above, you cannot get your face anywhere near the sink. The side faucet allows you better access to easily wash your face,
@@JoshtheRVNerd I seen one video of it so far, but he didn't have your wit, humor, & charm so I could impress the wife, lol. I think those working on the road will be loving this!
Like ya said it's the middle unit and the perfect one at that definitely like the fridge upgrade and the window shade really think cougar is at a good point where it has everything without going overboard hope they stay with where there at Question. I'm looking at getting a 20rdse and my parents are looking at the 2622rk rockwood you have any comments on either of them I dont know about you but ive never been in the 2622rk surprisingly lol, always nice to have a second opinion on things
That 2622RK would be on my personal short list for couple's fifth wheel. The storage is 100% unrivaled in it I didn't get the chance to personally review an updated 2622RK before it sold unfortunately but here's my most current 20RDSE footage: th-cam.com/video/4pqOYky3_vc/w-d-xo.html
Josh... We have an older (well, 2007) Fleetwood with faucets offset to the side as in this one. As you say, they work. Is it a little bit unusual? For a 'sticks and bricks' house, yes. for an RV? Nope. It's just fine.
This is my RV. I was wondering where the glass I found on the counter came from. I would say the USB ports on the theater seats are not something I would use. I love this RV, shower is amazing in size. I also added 2nd AC and I'm glad I did. I'm full timing in this RV.
This specific RV from our Coldwater store was released to you with glass still on the counter?! Can't say as I'm proud of that. I'm baffled as to how our cleaning team would've missed it
@@JoshtheRVNerd It was a few pieces and a nice chunk on left side of counter with a slight overhang. Must have bounced out during transport. I was going to call office but seen this video and it explained where it came from.
I feel like RV companies should hire you for a lot of money to assist with designing RVs. I’m currently in the market for a Travel trailer and if I can’t find a video of it from you I don’t even consider it an option. We are looking for a bunk house that is easy towing, a small room for mom and dad, and yeah it’s been rough!! But fun.. thank you for your content and enthusiasm.
Uncle Josh, I value your analysis, conclusions and judgment on every rig you review; as every subscriber to your vlog no doubt does. Would you please share a brief opinion regarding the relative differences you see between the Keystone "full cat" Cougar 290rls 5thW and the Keystone Cougar Half Ton 29rli 5thW? They are close in layout, options and value. The largest differences are price and capacities. Since your company carries both, and you have reviewed both, it seems you are are in a unique position to enlighten us a bit. Thanks so much for anything you might provide.
"Big Cat" will gain the following over the "Kitten" version (lol @ the names) * True Queen Bed * Stackable W/D Prep * Bedroom Windshield * More Navigable Bedroom (less to trip on) * Bigger Fridge * Solid Surface Kitchen Counter * Flooring changes from Hyperdeck laminated to 5/8" Dynaspan Decked * Pass-thru is a little bigger since the RV's upper deck is a little larger There's a few other little odds and ends, but those are some of the bigger features.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Uncle Josh, Thanks so much for your insight. I understand that it might be a little difficult to "promote" one Keystone Cougar over another; especially since you found both to be good products. But, that's kinda your job, isn't it? You answered my initial thought when you addressed the bedroom windshield. Not sure you would like it since I've heard a couple of complaints about leaks and unwanted light intrusion. The large night stands (coupled with no bedroom slides) are an attractive asset on both rigs. One lingering question in my mind concerns whether you think the ceilings were both a little low? It's no mystery why your reviews are so popular. Remember Josh, you have an extremely important historical and Biblical name. Very briefly, Joshua was the first "attendant" of Moses, and it was he who led the Israelites to the land promised to them by God. Among copious other accomplishments, he emphasized the importance of faithfulness to the Ten Commandments.
Like the stove set up, except for having a window right behind it. You end up having grease splattering while cooking even though you have the cook top. Also it should have a back splash behind it. Window not a good idea, my opinion only.
That's what I've been waiting for. Thanks !!! I'm definatley set on this one. Going all out on solar and doing the fan in the forward vent and going with the 4 door fridge. I'm also was lured by the large tank sizes. Also I have noticed that some of the models do not have the USB in the arms. I think some might have up on the outside edge of the ring around the cup holder. Definatley a must to change out the window in the door. On the 600i solar is it still 2 Li batteries or do they bump it to like 4 ? The only thing I haven't figured out yet would be a permanent mount for a generator also. It might be possible by splitting the pass through and building a pull put slide. Just a small thing for me personally to navigate. It's basically perfect for my needs. Thanks again for doing this review for me !!!
Better yet, have the armrest divider REMOVABLE!!!! All things considered, you're right that this has features of a large year rounder in a much smaller package. I'm still far more interested in the 29MBS Half Tonne 5th wheel.
Great floor plan, but with opposing slides one can only get to half of the refrigerator. Always a trade off. I don’t have that slide out but can get to everything in the kitchen with a 34’ fifth wheel. Great refrigerator. If one goes up in the solar packages, does the option include the Victron Multiplus II 12/3000 inverter? Do they move the lithium batteries inside the rv? Definitely don’t want the USB chargers where they are in these chairs. I’ve broken them off when they were like that. Who ever designed these obviously never used the chair and a phone being charged at the same time. Really like the w/d stackable capability in the kitchen! I bet there are some cold drafts coming down from that big window. I hope that is an insulated window shade!
So, if you put the stackable in there, you have to rip the doors off? Because there are four doors, and that means the middle shift dividing the doors goes away?
Josh, what is the difference between a Cougar or a Montana and a Sprinter fifth wheel? You have a video comparing Cougar and Montana, but where does something like Sprinter and the other Keystone brands fall in comparison?
Sprinter he’s going to kind of fall between something like a hide out in cougar fifth wheel, but it’s widebody and they do some very different and inventive things which I find exciting
Personally, I would prefer the USB plugs inside the center armrest (looks to have an opening lid). Keeps them out of view and devices can be tucked away while charging.
I am sorry I don't quite follow the question here. What size is good for being off grid? I don't really know that those two things relate to one another
USB plugs on the couch should be hidden in the center console. Then your cords can stay attached as well and be hidden while they aren’t used. I don’t like to seeing ports if all possible.
Queen bed and nightstands !
Very nice lookin Cougar 5th wheel! 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍 Josh I agree the USB p.ugs in theater seat on the face of the theater seat!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
Great idea to move that usb to the face of the seat! Remember that coffee maker has to be filled with water and I like it near the sink. Love the idea of the 12v fridge. Wish they could add a second opening window in the bedroom but we do like the window at your head but I also like cabinets over the bed. This is a nice unit! We love our keystone Cougar 25RES! They really need to move the spare tire from the current location to the rear to lessen the pin weight and give you more room in the front compartment.
Great looking 5th Wheel… Finally, the table & chairs option includes four matching chairs, instead of two fold-aways. And yes - good job Cougar on listening about adding the door blinds! Agree on the location of the USB plugs - should be on the front or center console area of the recliner (but not on the inside where you will hit it with a leg).
Huh.. interesting. I actually really like the two foldaways but to each their own!
Our usb plugs are inside the center console, which isn’t perfect but much better than on the side! I would also recommend the 12 volt fridge if you always have hookups but the two way if you do any boon docking! I love the floorplan as is, but it would be nice if the carpet-less slides matched the floor pattern😕
@@Erin-Thor Most people probably wouldn’t want to add the expense of 4 batteries, 400 watts of solar and a generator for rainy days to run a fridge that size when they could just use a two way fridge, but it is possible👍
@@Erin-Thor I’ve camped off grid since the 1960s when I was a kid and I still camp off grid for a week with 2 batteries, a 100 watt solar panel and a Honda 2,000 just in case, because rain tends to follow me☹️I would need to spend thousands more for two lithium batteries and several hundred watts of solar to use a 12 volt fridge since I camp in wooded areas that tend to partially block the sun for several hours a day. I have not seen the problems with fires that you have with two way fridges, but I’m sure a lack of maintenance could cause problems. 12 volt compressor fridges are relatively new, but it gives all of us another option to pick from as long as we fully understand what it will take to operate them. You seem to be right on top of things, but it is amazing how many people think they can camp off grid with the single battery and a 100 watt solar panel😬
The 12V fridge will EASILY handle boondocking, you just have to set up differently.
We use a SINGLE AGM, no solar, and could easily over night with the fridge without issues. Max run time on the AGM was 44 hours.
Now, the new owners of our previous RV upgraded to a single 100AH lithium, a 30A mppt, and a 190W solar panel. They routinely boondocks in excess of a week WITHOUT ISSUE. For less than $1000 you can easily set up a workable solar for a full 12V RV. And, it's VASTLY safer. I can't even count how many trailers I pulled off the side of the road, or out of boondocking areas, that where totalled from fridge fires. People forget to shut it off when driving, or think it's perfectly safe. I'm sure it is, IF you keep the space behind the fridge clean, especially from cob webs or mud dauber nests.
It's time people stopped giving bad information about 12V fridges when they've never used one. And don't just listen to me, go look at any off grid channel.. guess what.. 12V fridge, basic solar panel, single or double batteries. Every. Last. One!
@@krisbeaver2901 In my over 4 decades of RVing I have never experienced problems with a two way fridge and I have camped off grid for weeks at a time and driven thousands of miles, but that was when most people were capable of maintaining their own RVs. I totally understand your concern though, because in today's world most people are fortunate if they can even unlock their door👍
@Steve Z. Thanks for your response. I should have been clearer in my post. I've camped since the 70's when I could walk, and just before the CV I got into my first RV. I have however spent more than 2 years as a recovery and tow truck operator in 2 states. Over the years of pretty much constant road trips for coast to coast military moves, then working tow, I've seen and/or pulled probably close to 100 burned up rv's, either from sites, off grid, or on the highways. The vast majority of those where fridge fires. I will never trust a 2 way fridge, especially when there is a safer, and cheaper, alternative. I've talked to plenty of people like yourself who've done decades with them without issue, other than the fun of levelling perfectly..lol
I'm the same mindset against a specific brand that everyone raves about that I've seen have some pretty major build failures, to the point I'd never own one.
When it comes to fridges, I'm glad there are options out there for people to be able to camp how they want, and plenty of channels to show you how to do it safely. But that comes with having all the information available to help make the right decision for yourself. Me.. we're only over-night or three Boondockers, since my wife is a serious glamper. For us, it's the 12V everytime, especially now with the bigger sizes. The 10.7 cu ft was awesome, but I'm looking forward to a 14 in our new fifth wheel.
Very nice. everything we are looking for.
The big backside comment broke me. LMAO. That is part of the reason I am watching campers I am not looking at getting anytime soon. Thanks for the laugh.
You're welcome. Enjoy :)
+ 1 Uncle Gary. The big back end is a positive.
Your miss Piggy imitation was spot on.
lol TY
Omg the manager statement "josh can you shut up about the door blind". That's funny right there lol.
It's true dude
Not sure how I feel about 3 burner stoves but I'm glad it's in the middle so I have some room to cook. Replace dinette table with an extending one. Replace tub with one that doesn't have that stupid seat. I never sit in the shower or put one of those folding wooden ones. I'd definitely get a combo washer/dryer and keep that pantry space.
YES!! Pit the charging ports on the front of the the chairs and the sofas! That way everyone gets one and they are easily accessible.
It's just a feature nobody ever dislikes
USB out the front, being on inside I would break it the time I sit down. Great looking 5th wheel. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
Awesome...a huge 12 volt fridge, an actual Queen size bed, and a shade in the door window...say no more, Cougar makes great rv's. Oh and I agree that the USB outlets in the theater seat are definitely in a bad spot.
It’s kind of funny how much I like this one. When they first came out with it for whatever reason I had a chip on my shoulder about this model. I just didn’t make sense to me. But I never really gave it a chance and went through it like this I think I really earned a lot of respect for me
Really appreciate knowing things like color coordinated wiring. As a former design engineer, knowing they have that kind of attention to detail gives Keystone a plus in my book.
Alliance does that as well btw
Josh, you're my favorite part of this video. But, I do like this camper.
lol I'll take whatever I can get man
This 290rls is the fifth wheel I want and it's my favorite .. I see me buying this one next year .
Regulations on regulations, you nailed it. Leave it gubbmint to be super overbearing / controlling, wasteful & redundant. Lol.
Great camper! Love the off grid options & storage. Tyfs!
Your video today was full of amazing extras, loved the hammy routine!!
lord what Did I do this time?
I normally don't commit much on TH-cam but I can honestly say because of you josh I know when I get ready to buy a fifth wheel it's going to be this model and I'm going to take the 5 hour drive up to cold water just so I can buy it from bish and hopefully you are able to be there so I can at least shake your hand thank you for putting out so much great information.
Wow ty Robert!! Always nice to hear from you buddy 😊
I do certainly hope to get to shake your hand when you’re ready
Great job on the door blinds Cougar!! Now let's get the theater seat controls moved to center console or end of armrests..👍👍💥💥
Yes! 🙌🏻
Gorgeous rig. That fridge rocks. My 260 RD ran if for a week on solar and 200ah lithiums in rainy weather with life to spare.
I have to agree with the USB port location. They should be out of the way to avoid the potential of damaging the plug or jack.
I really like the laundry prep. I also love the frig choices. Super great the company is going to add the entry window shade.. whoop, whoop!!!
@5:00 yes, keep liquids away from any type of electrical components. It would end up with hot queso and pieces of tortilla chips all up in it!
Well first of all I’ll probably have nightmares about you popping out from under the bed in my Grand Design 5er but when you talked about Uncle Gary and the Cougar I spit out my sweet tea!
Well.. :)
I 100% agree with you on the USB plug placement. Our couch at home has it on the outside and it's hard to get to with the side table or a wall. By your legs just feels weird. Coming out the front is ideal. Good call Josh!
Agree 10000000000000000000% concerning the USB location.
on fridge they should go 3 way . gas elect and 110. absoulute change pugs an controls on chairs. shade would be great on door.
Sweet❗😍 Love everything about it! Prefer table over booth, ty! Refrig ✔ W/D option✔ Bedroom windshield & short wardrobe slide✔ Right size, features ✔✔&✔ ❗ Oooolala
I don’t have a problem with the side faucet in the bathroom… I love the new gooseneck style on this one. We have a 2021 cougar and the faucet is short. I agree with you about having a fan exhaust above the bed… although I would prefer the second air conditioner.
I’d do 2nd air as well
I totally agree I would love to see the USB and controls on the front of the arm of the theater seat
Uncle Gary will like it - Cougar with the big back end!
Haha 😂 ! Written at the beginning of the video , then you mentioned near the end of it!
I must be psycho... um... I mean psychic 😉
hahahhahahahaha no way dude!
Gorgeous cpap accomadations!!
I personally think they should be on the faceplate by the cup holders. Maybe have the lighted so they can easy to find or make a little light . Great looking camper… My other thoughts is wish they could put a couple tubes on the wall of the under compartment. To store the bag chairs . Blessings from Gettysburg Pa..
I very much appreciate the description area of the specs and time stamps...this really helps as I was cutting/pasting the opening pics of the video for future reference...now I don't have to do that.
I saw another video review that showed a dual lounge chair where the buttons were toward the end of the top arm rest; yet another option. In one of your latest reviews, you showed a removable center rest...I really like that option for snuggling purposes.
YES, YES, YES on the bottom up door shade.
12V, 16 cu ft fridge!!! Nailed it...always worried about food staying cold/frozen while traveling down the road. Add to that the concern about having the RV perfectly leveled for propane purposes; this eliminates all of that. More battery power? Yes, of course. I'd like to know what combination of LiFePO4 and solar pkg would handle that?
A small thing, but for the life of me, it doesn't cost that much to make the pantry shelves adjustable/more functionable...thank you Keystone!
I particularly like the side faucet; gives more usable sink space for my hands after getting them wet and soaped up, rather than having to move my hands to the side to get out of the way of the faucet; functionality trumps looks.
Appreciate calling out the no-king bed (I'll assume you meant RV King) option, BUT true queen std. What is the size difference between the 2?
*** Thanks for your suggestions for boondocking with reference to the MBR
* 2nd AC (more power needed)
* Max Air vent fan (vs just a vent, no air draw)
* Gas/Electric 2-way 12 cu ft, 4-door fridge (with the intent to use mainly electric; gas as a b/u in case you're low on battery)
*** Which means... just a little more solar & check the amount of batteries to handle this
A "real" battery disconnect switch; simple, but usually added by owner afterward.
The chapter marks are a newer thing I started doing. Takes a lot of time. Glad to know they're helping!
🤩The new fridge 👍 The door shade 👍The USBs on the recliner do need move. Always a second air conditioner.
Ty Stevo!!
Generator and its golden.
Got to agree on the USB, I wish designers made USBs to insert parallel vs perpendicular to the wall. Fridge is awesome 12v please, really like this one a couples camper. With the occasional guest. Thx!
Thx Jack!
I think a 2 foot extension over the slide would make that awning perfect by offering rain protection.
A good thing to note: The factory 2nd air is superior to the aftermarket AC because it is ducted. Aftermarket AC will blow directly into the bedroom. Not terrible, it's just noisier. I love the 12v fridge!
This was the one I was ready to sign and take delivery on in May of last year. Then my local dealer's Finance Manager went all used car salesmen on us so my wife and I walked. Then prices went up like 15 grand. Can't win for losing sometimes. I may have my dignity, but I don't have the RV. :(
Ugh. Sorry you had ... well.. _all_ of that experience
This one is top of the list!
Preferences would be 12v fridge and 400i OTG package.
Also, I agree on the USB ports in the theater seats needs to be somewhere that could be more protected from damage
I would like that pairing as well on pretty much any cougar I see. TY for sharing
What about usb plugs INSIDE the armrest?
We have a 2022 30rls. Picked it up before the switch to 29RLI. We love the rv. We hate the bath room sink! It needs a new design for sure.
WANT!
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12 volt frig should be standard along with solar to power it. Standard tankless water heater would be nice. Second A/C is a must have in Texas.
Ooh.. tankless
Reflection does that now actually
The other half says the headboard and wall/window in the bedroom is "pretty" and she likes it very much. I think you should have emerged from under the bed wearing a cheap red cape and vampire fangs. That's nice that Keystone lets you guys "factory" install solar packages - we'd option for the 1.21 GW package, of course. That would be package #37, I believe. We'd seriously be interested in this one if not for the floor vents or the name "Cougar".
ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE JIGGAWATTS?!
As far as the bathroom sink it is fine the way it is.
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Great video! So, how can I get one of those cool Bish's RV hats? Looks great!
Pretty sure Withrow one of those in with every purchase new or used, but I’m sure we could likely hand went out to you sometime
l prefer the 12V fridge. i love the thearter seating as you know and prefer the table and chairs over the dinette. love the placement of the oven with prep space on each side. love they have the ability to have a washer dryer combo unit and the ability to keep some pantry room. love the big shower, and drawers in the bathroom. the sink placement doesnt bother me. love the bedside cabinets. id prefer the 2 way max air vent fan in the bedroom as i need fresh air blowing in my face when i sleep. great cabniet space in the slide. fridge avability in road mode is important, especially if your transporting littles or diabetics who need to eat a little more often than normal peeps. only thing i dont like here is climbing stairs to go to the bathroom evert time! they need to make a main floor bathroom then use stairs up to the bedroom. id do with a bit less living and bedroom space to have a mainfloor bath.
I absolutely want the 12 volt fridge. I like my ice cream and propane fridges really struggle with the heat and humidity in the summer here. No contest especially given how solar panels and lithium batteries have dropped in price.
The active compressor fridges definitely keep it ice cream instead of ice-cream-soup lol
I’ve always wondered, why does Keystone/Cougar make an HT series (half ton) even though it’s not half ton towable…
I also wondered that because it’s floor plan that is missing other nacs that other brands in floor plan has like king bed and wardrobe closet
It's just the name which is obviously working to imply half-ton towing but the name itself isn't really an indicator of the recommended vehicle
I *love* Cougar RVs. I really don't like the name though
Wow. It’s closest to what we want.
You didn’t mention leveling system ??
Standard issue for years thankfully. There's a lot to cover on every RV
@@JoshtheRVNerd We looked it up as well.
Thanks for letting us know.
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This is a nice looking unit, I definitely think the lighter colors make it look more spacious.
I agree about those USB ports - the current placement is not user-friendly. They need to be moved to the front or onto the console.
I'll go ahead & pick that nit in the bathroom cabinet - they definitely need to put in a couple more shelves. You can never have too many shelves for hair/nail/skin care products & everyday toiletries!
The fridge looks nice but I'm not a fan of the side-by-side arrangement, since the shelf space is small on both sides. I prefer the 4-door fridge or if you're going residential, then I like the french door with the freezer on the bottom.
Oh, and as an Iowa native (not living there now), the winds do HOWL! (the Spring Howlers!)
Lord the wind out there...
Josh, First let me say, great video. You are the master! If I understand correctly, there is only one grey tank? We currently have the 23mls fifth wheel, small and sweet. I hate the galley tank. I would love to have had just one grey tank. Please verify if I'm understanding correctly. Thanks and keep up the great work.
No there are two greys here. Each 38gal. One kitchen and one bathroom
@@JoshtheRVNerdTwo gray tanks but one outlet? I guess I'm confused. We have to hook up two sewer hoses to empty into the sewer. Our previous fifth wheel, a Jayco Mlok, only had one sewer hose to hook up but it had two gray tanks. I think this was a better set up. I suppose it's all about trade offs.
@@rebeccacarpenter9566 Many RVs have multiple tanks that all drain to a single point.
Love it, great colors, layout, and storage, but do not like black appliances, remember camping adds more dirt and those would be nightmare with fingerprints and hate mirrors on closet doors, pain to keep clean.
Our 2019 Cougar 27SGS has the bathroom faucet centered behind the sink.With the medicine cabinet above, you cannot get your face anywhere near the sink. The side faucet allows you better access to easily wash your face,
Awesome. TY James. I've always felt they were fine but sometimes people comment on it
Hey Josh, when are you going to have a walk-through of the 2023 29BHL? What a cool FP!!
I SHOULD have one. I flat spaced and didn’t get it recorded at their open house display
@@JoshtheRVNerd I seen one video of it so far, but he didn't have your wit, humor, & charm so I could impress the wife, lol. I think those working on the road will be loving this!
Like ya said it's the middle unit and the perfect one at that definitely like the fridge upgrade and the window shade really think cougar is at a good point where it has everything without going overboard hope they stay with where there at
Question.
I'm looking at getting a 20rdse and my parents are looking at the 2622rk rockwood you have any comments on either of them I dont know about you but ive never been in the 2622rk surprisingly lol, always nice to have a second opinion on things
That 2622RK would be on my personal short list for couple's fifth wheel. The storage is 100% unrivaled in it
I didn't get the chance to personally review an updated 2622RK before it sold unfortunately but here's my most current 20RDSE footage: th-cam.com/video/4pqOYky3_vc/w-d-xo.html
12V compressor fridge for sure.
Josh... We have an older (well, 2007) Fleetwood with faucets offset to the side as in this one. As you say, they work. Is it a little bit unusual? For a 'sticks and bricks' house, yes. for an RV? Nope. It's just fine.
TY Brian! That's always been my experience as well!
Lakota horse trailer with slide! I miss the horse trailer vids.
Unfortunately we really haven't been receiving many lately
*LOVE the idea of getting shades in the entry door* !! *FAB new fridge choice* !! *Prefer the 12 v fridge due to size* !! #JoshTheRVNerdAtBishsRV
When are they going to use azdel
This is my RV. I was wondering where the glass I found on the counter came from. I would say the USB ports on the theater seats are not something I would use. I love this RV, shower is amazing in size. I also added 2nd AC and I'm glad I did. I'm full timing in this RV.
This specific RV from our Coldwater store was released to you with glass still on the counter?!
Can't say as I'm proud of that. I'm baffled as to how our cleaning team would've missed it
@@JoshtheRVNerd It was a few pieces and a nice chunk on left side of counter with a slight overhang. Must have bounced out during transport. I was going to call office but seen this video and it explained where it came from.
I feel like RV companies should hire you for a lot of money to assist with designing RVs. I’m currently in the market for a Travel trailer and if I can’t find a video of it from you I don’t even consider it an option. We are looking for a bunk house that is easy towing, a small room for mom and dad, and yeah it’s been rough!! But fun.. thank you for your content and enthusiasm.
I'd actually love to do some designing
Uncle Josh, I value your analysis, conclusions and judgment on every rig you review; as every subscriber to your vlog no doubt does. Would you please share a brief opinion regarding the relative differences you see between the Keystone "full cat" Cougar 290rls 5thW and the Keystone Cougar Half Ton 29rli 5thW? They are close in layout, options and value. The largest differences are price and capacities. Since your company carries both, and you have reviewed both, it seems you are are in a unique position to enlighten us a bit. Thanks so much for anything you might provide.
"Big Cat" will gain the following over the "Kitten" version (lol @ the names)
* True Queen Bed
* Stackable W/D Prep
* Bedroom Windshield
* More Navigable Bedroom (less to trip on)
* Bigger Fridge
* Solid Surface Kitchen Counter
* Flooring changes from Hyperdeck laminated to 5/8" Dynaspan Decked
* Pass-thru is a little bigger since the RV's upper deck is a little larger
There's a few other little odds and ends, but those are some of the bigger features.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Uncle Josh, Thanks so much for your insight. I understand that it might be a little difficult to "promote" one Keystone Cougar over another; especially since you found both to be good products. But, that's kinda your job, isn't it? You answered my initial thought when you addressed the bedroom windshield. Not sure you would like it since I've heard a couple of complaints about leaks and unwanted light intrusion. The large night stands (coupled with no bedroom slides) are an attractive asset on both rigs. One lingering question in my mind concerns whether you think the ceilings were both a little low? It's no mystery why your reviews are so popular. Remember Josh, you have an extremely important historical and Biblical name. Very briefly, Joshua was the first "attendant" of Moses, and it was he who led the Israelites to the land promised to them by God. Among copious other accomplishments, he emphasized the importance of faithfulness to the Ten Commandments.
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I like 12 volt fridge
Like the stove set up, except for having a window right behind it. You end up having grease splattering while cooking even though you have the cook top. Also it should have a back splash behind it. Window not a good idea, my opinion only.
That's what I've been waiting for.
Thanks !!! I'm definatley set on this one. Going all out on solar and doing the fan in the forward vent and going with the 4 door fridge. I'm also was lured by the large tank sizes.
Also I have noticed that some of the models do not have the USB in the arms. I think some might have up on the outside edge of the ring around the cup holder.
Definatley a must to change out the window in the door.
On the 600i solar is it still 2 Li batteries or do they bump it to like 4 ?
The only thing I haven't figured out yet would be a permanent mount for a generator also. It might be possible by splitting the pass through and building a pull put slide. Just a small thing for me personally to navigate.
It's basically perfect for my needs.
Thanks again for doing this review for me !!!
They use a different type of battery with that 600i package. You can learn more about it here: bit.ly/3k2NaRg
Better yet, have the armrest divider REMOVABLE!!!! All things considered, you're right that this has features of a large year rounder in a much smaller package. I'm still far more interested in the 29MBS Half Tonne 5th wheel.
Great floor plan, but with opposing slides one can only get to half of the refrigerator. Always a trade off. I don’t have that slide out but can get to everything in the kitchen with a 34’ fifth wheel. Great refrigerator. If one goes up in the solar packages, does the option include the Victron Multiplus II 12/3000 inverter? Do they move the lithium batteries inside the rv?
Definitely don’t want the USB chargers where they are in these chairs. I’ve broken them off when they were like that. Who ever designed these obviously never used the chair and a phone being charged at the same time. Really like the w/d stackable capability in the kitchen! I bet there are some cold drafts coming down from that big window. I hope that is an insulated window shade!
I did a decently detailed breakdown of their solar packages here bit.ly/3k2NaRg
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Careful of those careless whispers
Nice road mode!
Yes it was!
So, if you put the stackable in there, you have to rip the doors off? Because there are four doors, and that means the middle shift dividing the doors goes away?
I'm not 100% sure but I think you may be right
I don't understand went they don't do 3 way fridge standard. They can put the passive coils in and the compressor vents.
Day Night Shades would be great!
6:01 a StopBucks ☕️🙃 i.e. stop & make your own coffee in your RV 🆚 going to a StarBucks (don’t try to use their drive through) 💥 😱
Dude.. that's genius. I might use that sometime
StopBucks is brilliant!
Josh, what is the difference between a Cougar or a Montana and a Sprinter fifth wheel? You have a video comparing Cougar and Montana, but where does something like Sprinter and the other Keystone brands fall in comparison?
Sprinter he’s going to kind of fall between something like a hide out in cougar fifth wheel, but it’s widebody and they do some very different and inventive things which I find exciting
Josh, If the fifth wheel dry weight is 10,220 and the GVW 12,200, will the pin (Hitch) weight go down if you do not fully load the camper?
Sorry Breck there’s no direct answer to this question
Also.. listed hitch weights are always if the rv is empty so it will only go up
actual fabrick curtains make it look better.
Why don't they have the Azdel composite?
Are the windows single pane or double pane? Do they make double pane windows in these RVs? Worrying about cold weather.
Single standard
Optional dual pane frameless
If we bought this one, we'd name it Freddy Cougar.
Hahahaha
Yes yes yes on usb on arm rest front
TY Jason
If you have the 2023 model in stock I'd love to see a video about it too!
I haven't seen one YET -- but most likely will later this season
They have usb plugs that are 90° on both ends.
They do. Still easy to break in those seats. And not everyone has those just lying around
Personally, I would prefer the USB plugs inside the center armrest (looks to have an opening lid). Keeps them out of view and devices can be tucked away while charging.
I actually prefer that as well _assuming_ the seat has a center console. Some are compressed down to dual reclining love seats
Definetly 12V compressor, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
Keystone needs to do away with the floor vents. Also, can the spare tire be relocated to the rear underneath?
Thats a big 12v fridge, probably want a minimum of 600w solar and 200ah bateries as a minimum for off grid camping
Thankfully.. Cougar can offer just that!
whats a good size rv for full time boondocking on solar? like zombie apocalypse mobile base style.
I am sorry I don't quite follow the question here. What size is good for being off grid? I don't really know that those two things relate to one another
Nice ,
I have hundreds of usb cables laying around the house and trailer. Breaking one is not something to worry about.
Fair. Ty
It does seem to be a Keystone thing to not have a rear bumper.
They were one of the first to do it. A bunch of brands followed suit
It works for me trade in my keystone passport 268 bh and buy that one !!
Operators are standing by!!
USB plugs on the couch should be hidden in the center console. Then your cords can stay attached as well and be hidden while they aren’t used. I don’t like to seeing ports if all possible.
I actually do like it when plugs are in the console like that. Good call
Why such a tiny black tank compared to fresh and gray tank? It’s too big of a camper for that tank size.