I am a french citizen and the U.S was my home for 28 years. America tought me patriotism, friendship and honor. I had the priviledge of meeting vietnam vets, désert storm vets, pilots from the Air force, had the opportunity of flying with air force pilots and vietnam vets as i am a pilot as well, and frequently practiced PARs at NELLIS AFB. America has been good to me and i am ALWAYS greatful. After these many years i can only live the rest of my life with the american constitution and the souvenir of these great men and women that too often gave their lives for the rest of us, even they are the ones who deserve it most.... Thank you Ward, your stories are heartwarming. GOD bless you Sir.
Yes great men defending our constitution and way of life...Also thank you France as an American, our war of independence may gone differently without the great nation of France.
Thank you fellow patriot. I can only wish that every nation would adopt our Constitution (as well as the Bible), and learn true freedom under God. Thank you for your devotion to America. One can clearly distinguish the ideals that drove the French Revolution vs. the American Revolution. Those leading the French Revolution, and the thinkers who helped mould the public's way of thinking, men like Voltaire and Rousseau, Montesquieu and Diderot, while espousing freedom thru Revolution, failed to bring in God's part in man's struggle against tyrrany. Our founding fathers had the example of the Puritans and later, the Pilgrims. They remembered the original covenant the Pilgrims made with the God of the Bible, and stood by that, so that our Constitution would reflect Biblical thought and values. It has clearly stood the test of time, howbeit it is in grave jeopardy now due to vast corruption within government and elsewhere in society at large. We are on the precipice of either collapse or a great and sweeping re-awakening to re-establish and restore America.
That was beautiful written by you. It's unfortunate, however that even many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
France was their for the United States during our war of independence blockading British forces from resupply! 😊 Do us a favor and tell your French friends about the Constitution 😊 and thank them for their ancestors help !😊
Absolutely right. If you haven't yet watched the movie Devotion, watch it, and read the book too. As usual I thought the book was better, but the movie is still great.
John Thach innovated the Thach weave an technique for combat that was well know to all navy pacific fighter pilots. John Thach became a 3 star Admiral. The story was highlighted in a TV show called Men of Anapolis.
These aviators certainly put the "honor" in the Medal of Honor. Like your other videos (e.g., the crash videos), this one reminds us of the respect and gratitude our service personnel are due.
many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
Great story telling Ward, my wife has just walked by and asked why my eyes are weepy looking ? No doubt these true warriors were welcomed in Valhalla for eternity.
Concerning Mike Estocin, John B. Nichol's book On Yankee Station is an outstanding read. Not just for the stories, but for his clear, pragmatic analysis of every element of air warfare at the time.
I had never heard LCDR Estocin's story. I only knew that it was an award given to squadrons for superior all around performance and that it was named after an aviator. Thanks!
many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
I was the other "Iron Hand" strike leader in VA-192. Mike & I would flip a coin in the evening before the days "Alpha" strikes to see who would take the morning or afternoon missions. Since the Commanding & I wrote & submitted the Squadrons awards, I was assigned to write Mikes Medal Of Honor citation & justification for the award combining the two separate missions. The Presentation of the posthumous award was delayed until 1977 because of questions concerning his death.
I can proudly say I served with LtCdr Estocin in VA-192 from Christmas Eve 1966 until his passing. Just out of Boot Camp and AO-A School, I think I had one, maybe two short visits with him. Once in the "Dragon's Lair" (the squadron ready room in USS Ticonderoga (CVA-14), the other on the flight deck. Thanks for honoring Mike Estocin and bringing back all those memories of my first cruise.
I had the distinct privilege of meeting Captain Thomas Hudner at the grand opening of the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum on December 7, 2007. He was every bit a gentleman and it is an honor to have shaken his hand. Somewhere, I even have a photo of him, my wife, and me. Great video Mooch!
Hey Ward was that an actual picture of my Dad's plane ? I'd love a copy of that. I do have a bone to pick with John Nichols because there are two different stories about what happened that day. I enjoyed your segment, Thank you, Kathy Estocin-Foley
Ms. Foley , my father was in another light attack squadron on the “Tico” during that cruise - VA - 195 if memory serves. The price your family paid for my family’s freedom will not be forgotten.
I was an airdale AT in VA-192 at the time of our loss of Lt.Cdr. Estocin and knew his plane well as with our other A-4E birds. The black and white photo of the A-4 firing the missile at 14:01 was not ours; our birds were numbered in a 200 series and this one shows as 586 from VA-55 as indicated under the port stabilizer wing. The painted image at 14:32 does not bear the colors of birds of VA-192 and again shows a different numbered series. As for the painted image at 15:40, his plane might have been 206, but the paint scheme on the tail rudder is used only for CAG's plane numbered 200.
The amazing thing to me about these guys is that most of them will argue that they were just doing their jobs and the MOH citation was not really deserved.
And then you have aviators on the opposite end of the scale like Duke Cunningham, who basically demanded the Medal of Honor. Duke may have made ace status in Vietnam, but he didn't display "Conspicuous Gallantry", and he ended up with the Navy Cross.
Ward, I have watched all of your videos and read all of your Punk novels. Your words bring to me a sense of validation. I served in the Navy as a maintainer, 78-83, with VAQ-138 and VT-22 during my 5 year tenure with the Navy. I made the maiden Med deployment aboard Ike in 79, and 2 more aboard JFK during that time, the last one and a half cruises as Flight Deck Troubleshooter for the Powerplants Shop. Also did a 2 week Det aboard the Lady Lex in 83 to Carrier Qual a class of student pilots. Your writing and narration bring it all back to me. All the hardships and triumphs of deployment, all the sense of duty, all the fun on liberty. You bring about the side of the whole thing that was mostly hidden for me, the flight crew's point of view. As someone who lived it at sea and ashore, your writing brings it all flooding back. I remember all of it. The smell aboard ship of sweat and JP-5, the sometimes horrible chow in the mess deck, bug juice, the long hours on the flight deck in all kinda weather imaginable, the hope that your birds come home unbroken. The joy of getting a bird up right before launch. Thank you for this revisitation. This all happened many years ago, but the experiences I had will stay with me until death. The rare thank you from the maintenance Master Chief. The men I served with are Brothers to this day, and some of us are still in touch. Thanks again Sir.
"Dashing Dave" McCampbell was one of a kind. He wrote the foreword to my Hellcat book while cruising with a lady in the Caribbean. c. 1980 he was invited to address the P-47 Assn (no living Thunderbolt MoH guys) the MC said, "Now we come to Dave McCampbell. He shot down 34 airplanes, he's been married 5 times---he's 70 years old--and he still has more torque than a P-47!" Mike Estocin: the full story may never be known. John Nichols and I wrote about the second MoH mission in "On Yankee Station" (1987) but I've updated it since for the A-4 Skyhawk Assn. John thought that the second Shrike fired because the circuits burned through. The A-4 crashed inverted, and as Ward notes, no ejection was observed. At Tailhook reunions Mrs. Estocin still presents the award for the outstanding strike-fighter squadron in his name. It was years before I connected the dots, as I only knew that LtJG Cain (referenced in the video) was shot down on the same mission as Estocin, but I found within 2 minutes or so. Cain was rescued by the late-great Steve Millikin, future Tailhook editor, who pulled off a Silver Star helo rescue mission near the mouth of Haiphong Harbor. I knew the VA-192 CO who admitted that the citations were hastily written in a Hong Kong "admin" after the cruise's last line period, and some errors crept in. As ever, Barrett
Knew the stories and needed to hear them again. While these sailors all received the Medal of Honor, this is a good time to remember our soldiers, sailors and marines in combat (read in Kabul, Afghanistan) who surely have been in harm's way doing brave work, conspicuous in its own right, saving the lives of others who need help. Thank you, Ward, for the stories and timing.
Having served on a carrier in the air department (V2) I can say that these stories resonate with me at the highest level and my pride and admiration for these MOH awardees is beyond description.
Brought tears to my eyes knowing what great service men and women we have that will give everything for our country!! Such a great video seeing them getting the "Medal of Honor" for their sacrifices they gave and lived with the rest of their lives! ❤⚓🎖
Growing up in a military family (Army) during the Vietnam Era, with a grandfather who served in the 42nd Infantry Division (Rainbow Division) I always looked up to the men in my family and those in general who served in the military and loved to read all the history I could get my hands on growing up. I also loved to read about all of our MOH winners as I found all of them truly inspiring! Thanks you for another great video!!! 👍
When I was a very young teen, I devoured every book I could find on WWII history, specifically US naval history. These incredible aviators were in my personal pantheon of heroes, along with men like Mush Morton and Eugene Fluckey. They are still bigger-than-life heroes to me. Thanks for this episode, Sir.
Excellent video Ward. I never heard the LCDR Estocin story, but the painting has one of my Whales tanking him, so I’ll have to share it with the Skywarrior group.
MY heart swells with pride and the tears start to flow to hear these incredible stories. "Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his fellow man". Paul Povinelli: I was in VAQ-33, an ECM squadron based at N.A.S., Norfolk, Va., 71-75. I was a Plane Captain for our four ERA-3B Skywarriors. They carried jamming pods, chaff dispensers, and other radar gear. The original bomb bay has been converted to about 3 stations where technicians sat and manned the ECM equipment. I took great care of "my" Skywarriors, and felt personally responsible for them. We also had four A-4 Skyhawks, two F-4 Phantoms, and one gorgeous "Lady of the Sky", the Super Constellation that had a tall radome on top and a round radome underneath. If an A-3 were to fly over my home today, ( I know, they are all decommissioned), I would still recognize the sound of the J57's. Carry on, fellow Whaler..!!
Thanks for this video, Ward. It's nice to be reminded of a time when our military leadership and our national leadership knew how to fight and win wars, as epitomized by the Greatest Generation and its magnificent men.
By the time you reiterated a few times the stories were all about MoH awardees that earned in the air, I figured out Jim Stockdale would not be in the story. Although I was never in the military and never in the intel community I was invited as a guest to the "Red Tie Luncheon" one year in San Diego (just a few miles from our MITRE offiice at the Navy Lab on Point Loma). The speaker was Admiral Stockdale (long after retirement, before run with Ross Perot). He was brilliant! All 300 or so people in the room knew his story. When he concluded, the standing-O was amazing!!! I will never forget that. I will also never forget what the press did to him during the campaign.
Thanks for taking the time and put these stories out. It's the only way the youth of today will understand how brave these guys were. RIP to all of the amazing heroes.
I bought my house about 3,800 fee north of NAS Miramar in 1987, well before Tustin and El Toro were closed and moved there with the Navy op squadrons moving to Lemoore (et al) and Top Gun moving to Fallon. I still love living here as I've always believed jet noise is the sound of freedom. OMG the F-35C's are soooo much louder than the Super Hornets (different story for a different day). I know you were pretty much an East coast sailor and your stories are heavily there. Could you come up with a good West coast story? You must have known a handful of guys that went through Top Gun. If you do or don't, I still think your work is excellent! Thanks a great deal!!
"...even if I have to lay it on the flight deck!" , I get chills hearing that. That's some motivational hype talk that'd you'd hear someone say while trying to drive the point home to be committed and express just how important the upcoming task is. I could only imagine seeing that happen in the air and on the enemy deck... "holy shit! he's actually going to lay that mf'r on the flight deck!!"
Thanks for posting this episode! It's so great learning about people like these who go above and beyond to exemplify what the Medal of Honor stands for and to inspire others!
Love your Les Paul in the background, your playing ain't bad either; but your historical knowledge and the gift of gab surpassed your musical skill without a question! Keep on flying!
Greetings Commander Ward Carrol U.S. Navy-Retired. I spent 30+ years in the Department of the Navy, the U,S. Marines. My time in the Corps had started out with me being in the Infantry, and then Naval Aviation-Marine Helicopters. Always a pleasure to view your channel, and to view your televised remembrances of our country's Naval Aviation Heros, as well as our cousin service hero's of their Aviation enterprises. "Bravo Zulu", well done Sir, well done indeed..
Though not carrier-based (but still ship-based), you should include Lieutenant Clyde Lassen. He was awarded the MOH for rescuing two downed naval aviators in North Vietnam in 1968. Two separate attempts, at night, under enemy fire, and after colliding with a tree. He finally resorted to turning on his landing lights (still under fire) in order to land and pick up his rescuees. The award citation doesn’t state specifically, but I seem to remember reading that he was flying an HH-2 Seaprite.
This one gets a LIKE. Not just for Commander Carroll's excellent work, but for six good men who gave everything they had for our country. Thank you all.
I so appreciate the in-depth work you provide all of us that ‘follow’ you. I was scrolling through all of the VLog’s you have completed and realized how important these presentations are. Unfortunately. Many people do not read texts like they used to in the century past. For that reason , in itself you are documenting important Naval and Political History that has shaped the USA and the World to what we proudly have today. I hope you have given thought to a method of ‘preservation’, these files. Perhaps with the Naval Institute as a continuation of your incredible Journalism. Thank you Ward. For all you do for the free world.
The American public and especially school age children need to learn more about such men. They need to understand the real sacrifices that were made by these valiant flesh and blood men.
At the end of the movie, "The Bridges At Toko Ri", when Rear Admiral George Tarrant learns that Lt. Brubaker had been shot down, and the rescue attempt further takes the lives of the helicopter crew sent to save him, says, "Where do we get such men? They leave this ship and they do their job. Then they must find this speck lost somewhere on the sea. When the find it they have to land on it's pitching deck. Where do we get such men?" Military history is replete with heroic actions, but only a few rise to the category of the Medal of Honor. When we ask our military to go into harms way, time and again, they do. God bless them all.
@WardCarroll sir big tomcat fan I was on the USS New Jersey off Lebanon on 1983 and 84 first Tomcat I ever saw still the sweetest aircraft to me ever made I appreciate your work sir thank you
Thank you, you're a great story-teller, Mooch. Also, it was during the time that LCDR Thach was flying with Butch O'Hare as his wingman that he developed the Thach Weave. I wonder if CAPT David McCampbell's callsign was McSoup.
Outstanding. Love your history lessons. From an old USS Enterprise petty officer. Was fortunate enough to watch the filming of Top Gun. Tom Cruise cannot throw dog tags or anything else I imagine, worth a damn.
Ward, I think I speak for many when we say how much I look forward to your videos. To hear the stories of such heroism and bravery is inspiring to say the least. Thank you for your service and continued service by sharing the wonderful information and stories that you have. They’re definitely pure gold. I think you ought to do some guitar stuff for us. Maybe the top gun theme 😉. Much love from NC and God Bless America and those who serve us.
Good job Ward. Tom Hudner was my CO in VT-24. I heard his story from one of his squadron mates right after I was winged and commissioned. There was one detail in the account I heard that differs significantly from the official version. 'Nuf said. I was a nugget photo pilot in CAG-19 aboard Ticonderoga and was in the tower as our detachment observer when Mike Estocin brought his damaged A-4E aboard on the 20th. We could see the fuel streaming out of his A-4 on final. It wasn't on fire until he trapped when the sparks from the tail hook ignited the fuel pouring out as he rolled out. The mini boss was controlling at the time and transmitted to Mike as the belly of the A-4 burst into flame "don't eject, don't eject!" Mike stayed put and his plane captain with the gear pins in hand actually beat the fire crew to the plane. They had the fire, which was external, out within seconds. It was a virtuoso performance by all hands from Mike on down.
Fortunately we have always had our fair share of men like this, some recognized some not. But when there is a need the man will appear. The number of men both Officer and Enlisted I served with in the Marines that would on a daily basis go above and beyond was astounding and when I retired it was one of the things I sorely missed. Working with the caliber of men who daily went above and beyond is something rarely found in the civilian world with the exception of emergency personnel.
That such men lived should make us all proud to be Americans. I served as an Army Infantryman for 21 years, and the Medal of Honor is often equated with ground combat against overwhelming odds, a la Audie Murphy. Launching off a carrier to face unknown enemy forces while relying on machines takes a special breed, though. You had to hope, especially during WWII and Korea, when the concept of aircraft carriers was fairly new and airplanes had been around for less than a half-century, that not only your plane, but the machine guns were in perfect working order, and that the enemy didn't get a lucky shot in. I can't knock modern day pilots whatsoever, but in the days of dogfighting and direct aerial combat, it took a lot of courage to go up knowing that you might come back down in a flaming ball of wreckage. Thanks for the content, I've been enjoying every minute of it.
My Pa-in-Law was on the Ticonderoga as a fellow Lt. Cmdr (VA 192) and participated in the write-up for Excotin's MoH. It's all recapped in the book, Alpha Strike Vietnam by Jeffrey L. Levinson, at the end of chapter 19. Balls of steel... Good work Mr. Carroll. Thanks for your service.
I mainly watch guitar/music oriented channels, but this is one of my all time favorite channels. You're doing a fantastic historical service, Ward. Keep up the great work. I'll keep watching. Cheers and thanks for your service! 🤘
Great video Ward, you never disappoint. Also, checkout the post Civil War military fraternal organization called Grand Army of the Republic. It's similar in concept to the American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars. One thing I noticed about them is their membership badge looks just like the original Medal of Honor with U.S. Flag suspension ribbon attached to the medal that clipped on your uniform instead of hanging around your neck.. It was founded 6 April 1866 and dissolved 2 August 1956 when the last surviving member died.
Great episode. A well-deserved homage to brave aviators. I believe the Butch O'Hare display features a different model of the Wildcat in O'Hare's markings. It's not a replica, but an actual restored Wildcat.
Thank you for this episode the bravery of these aviators must be remembered for ever.. I have had the highest honor to meet several M.O.H. recipients all very brave men indeed.
I am a french citizen and the U.S was my home for 28 years. America tought me patriotism, friendship and honor. I had the priviledge of meeting vietnam vets, désert storm vets, pilots from the Air force, had the opportunity of flying with air force pilots and vietnam vets as i am a pilot as well, and frequently practiced PARs at NELLIS AFB. America has been good to me and i am ALWAYS greatful. After these many years i can only live the rest of my life with the american constitution and the souvenir of these great men and women that too often gave their lives for the rest of us, even they are the ones who deserve it most.... Thank you Ward, your stories are heartwarming. GOD bless you Sir.
Yes great men defending our constitution and way of life...Also thank you France as an American, our war of independence may gone differently without the great nation of France.
Thank you fellow patriot. I can only wish that every nation would adopt our Constitution (as well as the Bible), and learn true freedom under God. Thank you for your devotion to America. One can clearly distinguish the ideals that drove the French Revolution vs. the American Revolution. Those leading the French Revolution, and the thinkers who helped mould the public's way of thinking, men like Voltaire and Rousseau, Montesquieu and Diderot, while espousing freedom thru Revolution, failed to bring in God's part in man's struggle against tyrrany.
Our founding fathers had the example of the Puritans and later, the Pilgrims. They remembered the original covenant the Pilgrims made with the God of the Bible, and stood by that, so that our Constitution would reflect Biblical thought and values. It has clearly stood the test of time, howbeit it is in grave jeopardy now due to vast corruption within government and elsewhere in society at large. We are on the precipice of either collapse or a great and sweeping re-awakening to re-establish and restore America.
@@francisbusa1074 amen to that.... God bless.
That was beautiful written by you. It's unfortunate, however that even many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
France was their for the United States during our war of independence blockading British forces from resupply! 😊
Do us a favor and tell your French friends about the Constitution 😊 and thank them for their ancestors help !😊
The idea of trying to hack your friend out of a wreck and having to leave him in those circumstances is utterly heartbreaking.
Absolutely right.
If you haven't yet watched the movie Devotion, watch it, and read the book too. As usual I thought the book was better, but the movie is still great.
Ward, this episode was sorely needed. Your historical research and story explanation is what brings these incredible men to life. Thanks Ward.
ESPECIALLY right now. Sorely needed indeed. Eloquent.
John Thach innovated the Thach weave an technique for combat that was well know to all navy pacific fighter pilots. John Thach became a 3 star Admiral. The story was highlighted in a TV show called Men of Anapolis.
Six words sum up these six hero's....
"Where do we get such men?"
.....and how do we make more of them?
Not raised by single mothers.
It takes men to raise men.
This was the only version I could find that had those lines in it. It's pretty bad.
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Japan pissed off the wrong country
They're raised by their parents, mostly, and influenced by mentors/role models.
I had the distinct honor and privilege to work on the U.S.S. Hudner at Bath Iron Works. Bath built is best built.
Keep building them strong up there in Maine
I can listen to Ward narrate these well prepared and researched true hero stories all day!! Great insight and greater respect!! Jim C.
These aviators certainly put the "honor" in the Medal of Honor. Like your other videos (e.g., the crash videos), this one reminds us of the respect and gratitude our service personnel are due.
many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
Great story telling Ward, my wife has just walked by and asked why my eyes are weepy looking ? No doubt these true warriors were welcomed in Valhalla for eternity.
That story about Brown & Hudner is heartbreaking. Leaving people behind is awful, even when there's no choice.
Concerning Mike Estocin, John B. Nichol's book On Yankee Station is an outstanding read. Not just for the stories, but for his clear, pragmatic analysis of every element of air warfare at the time.
Not sure if any comments mentioned but I believe Hudner’s friend Jessie Brown was the first black carrier pilot. Hudner’s biography is a good read.
Movie devotion. Big budget Oct. 11
I had never heard LCDR Estocin's story. I only knew that it was an award given to squadrons for superior all around performance and that it was named after an aviator. Thanks!
We are honoured to have such dedicated people defending our freedoms.
many Americans don't have love for America and are not patriotic. It's unfortunate that many people from other countries can see how America is the greatest place to live. Many Americans take for granted what is awarded to them at birth, as these people don't realize and are ignorant to how other countries are all around the world. America does have its issues, but America at least always tries its best to be perfect, even though perfect doesn't exist.
I was the other "Iron Hand" strike leader in VA-192. Mike & I would flip a coin in the evening before the days "Alpha" strikes to see who would take the morning or afternoon missions. Since the Commanding & I wrote & submitted the Squadrons awards, I was assigned to write Mikes Medal Of Honor citation & justification for the award combining the two separate missions. The Presentation of the posthumous award was delayed until 1977 because of questions concerning his death.
Thank you for ypur service and elevation of Mike's sacrifice
Yeah ok lol and I'm batman 😎
@@nexpro6118 no, you are not, otherwise your name would be Bruce Wayne, Frank.
Gary…I collect autographs. Can I get yours?
I can proudly say I served with LtCdr Estocin in VA-192 from Christmas Eve 1966 until his passing. Just out of Boot Camp and AO-A School, I think I had one, maybe two short visits with him. Once in the "Dragon's Lair" (the squadron ready room in USS Ticonderoga (CVA-14), the other on the flight deck. Thanks for honoring Mike Estocin and bringing back all those memories of my first cruise.
I had the distinct privilege of meeting Captain Thomas Hudner at the grand opening of the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum on December 7, 2007. He was every bit a gentleman and it is an honor to have shaken his hand. Somewhere, I even have a photo of him, my wife, and me. Great video Mooch!
Hey Ward was that an actual picture of my Dad's plane ? I'd love a copy of that. I do have a bone to pick with John Nichols because there are two different stories about what happened that day. I enjoyed your segment, Thank you, Kathy Estocin-Foley
Which picture are you talking about, Kathy? The A-4 firing the Shrike?
Much respect to your father, amazing.
Ms. Foley , my father was in another light attack squadron on the “Tico” during that cruise - VA - 195 if memory serves. The price your family paid for my family’s freedom will not be forgotten.
I was an airdale AT in VA-192 at the time of our loss of Lt.Cdr. Estocin and knew his plane well as with our other A-4E birds. The black and white photo of the A-4 firing the missile at 14:01 was not ours; our birds were numbered in a 200 series and this one shows as 586 from VA-55 as indicated under the port stabilizer wing. The painted image at 14:32 does not bear the colors of birds of VA-192 and again shows a different numbered series. As for the painted image at 15:40, his plane might have been 206, but the paint scheme on the tail rudder is used only for CAG's plane numbered 200.
@WardCarroll did she ever respond, sir?
The amazing thing to me about these guys is that most of them will argue that they were just doing their jobs and the MOH citation was not really deserved.
And then you have aviators on the opposite end of the scale like Duke Cunningham, who basically demanded the Medal of Honor.
Duke may have made ace status in Vietnam, but he didn't display "Conspicuous Gallantry", and he ended up with the Navy Cross.
Ward, I have watched all of your videos and read all of your Punk novels. Your words bring to me a sense of validation. I served in the Navy as a maintainer, 78-83, with VAQ-138 and VT-22 during my 5 year tenure with the Navy. I made the maiden Med deployment aboard Ike in 79, and 2 more aboard JFK during that time, the last one and a half cruises as Flight Deck Troubleshooter for the Powerplants Shop. Also did a 2 week Det aboard the Lady Lex in 83 to Carrier Qual a class of student pilots. Your writing and narration bring it all back to me. All the hardships and triumphs of deployment, all the sense of duty, all the fun on liberty. You bring about the side of the whole thing that was mostly hidden for me, the flight crew's point of view. As someone who lived it at sea and ashore, your writing brings it all flooding back. I remember all of it. The smell aboard ship of sweat and JP-5, the sometimes horrible chow in the mess deck, bug juice, the long hours on the flight deck in all kinda weather imaginable, the hope that your birds come home unbroken. The joy of getting a bird up right before launch. Thank you for this revisitation. This all happened many years ago, but the experiences I had will stay with me until death. The rare thank you from the maintenance Master Chief. The men I served with are Brothers to this day, and some of us are still in touch. Thanks again Sir.
Beautiful. Just beautiful. Thanks for putting it down here, robzilla.
Loved the photo of Brown & Hudner playing Acey Deucy in the ready room!
Right? Classic.
"Dashing Dave" McCampbell was one of a kind. He wrote the foreword to my Hellcat book while cruising with a lady in the Caribbean. c. 1980 he was invited to address the P-47 Assn (no living Thunderbolt MoH guys) the MC said, "Now we come to Dave McCampbell. He shot down 34 airplanes, he's been married 5 times---he's 70 years old--and he still has more torque than a P-47!"
Mike Estocin: the full story may never be known. John Nichols and I wrote about the second MoH mission in "On Yankee Station" (1987) but I've updated it since for the A-4 Skyhawk Assn. John thought that the second Shrike fired because the circuits burned through. The A-4 crashed inverted, and as Ward notes, no ejection was observed. At Tailhook reunions Mrs. Estocin still presents the award for the outstanding strike-fighter squadron in his name.
It was years before I connected the dots, as I only knew that LtJG Cain (referenced in the video) was shot down on the same mission as Estocin, but I found within 2 minutes or so. Cain was rescued by the late-great Steve Millikin, future Tailhook editor, who pulled off a Silver Star helo rescue mission near the mouth of Haiphong Harbor. I knew the VA-192 CO who admitted that the citations were hastily written in a Hong Kong "admin" after the cruise's last line period, and some errors crept in.
As ever, Barrett
Ward, these men are role models, their heroic actions should never be forgotten.
Thank You ! To all who served our country. God Bless you all !
Knew the stories and needed to hear them again. While these sailors all received the Medal of Honor, this is a good time to remember our soldiers, sailors and marines in combat (read in Kabul, Afghanistan) who surely have been in harm's way doing brave work, conspicuous in its own right, saving the lives of others who need help. Thank you, Ward, for the stories and timing.
God Bless all veterans may keep his watch on all you come in contact with very humble reading great history
Estocin……..”This time he’s pissed off”. 🤣. Love your storytelling!
Be it medal of honor or not, I could listen to these pilots stories all day long. Thank you for telling them!
Thanks for honoring these warriors, Commander.
Having served on a carrier in the air department (V2) I can say that these stories resonate with me at the highest level and my pride and admiration for these MOH awardees is beyond description.
I've read about 'Butch'...a totally valid reward, just for succeeding against all of the odds stacked against him.
A true aviation hero.
I wish more folks could hear these stories.
You really are doing right by these men, Mr. Carroll.
Thanks.
I love these stories. Our Navy heroes.
Brought tears to my eyes knowing what great service men and women we have that will give everything for our country!! Such a great video seeing them getting the "Medal of Honor" for their sacrifices they gave and lived with the rest of their lives! ❤⚓🎖
Growing up in a military family (Army) during the Vietnam Era, with a grandfather who served in the 42nd Infantry Division (Rainbow Division) I always looked up to the men in my family and those in general who served in the military and loved to read all the history I could get my hands on growing up. I also loved to read about all of our MOH winners as I found all of them truly inspiring!
Thanks you for another great video!!! 👍
When I was a very young teen, I devoured every book I could find on WWII history, specifically US naval history. These incredible aviators were in my personal pantheon of heroes, along with men like Mush Morton and Eugene Fluckey. They are still bigger-than-life heroes to me. Thanks for this episode, Sir.
Thanks for watching, Stefani.
@@WardCarroll Thank YOU, Commander.
Excellent video Ward. I never heard the LCDR Estocin story, but the painting has one of my Whales tanking him, so I’ll have to share it with the Skywarrior group.
MY heart swells with pride and the tears start to flow to hear these incredible stories. "Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his fellow man". Paul Povinelli: I was in VAQ-33, an ECM squadron based at N.A.S., Norfolk, Va., 71-75. I was a Plane Captain for our four ERA-3B Skywarriors. They carried jamming pods, chaff dispensers, and other radar gear. The original bomb bay has been converted to about 3 stations where technicians sat and manned the ECM equipment. I took great care of "my" Skywarriors, and felt personally responsible for them. We also had four A-4 Skyhawks, two F-4 Phantoms, and one gorgeous "Lady of the Sky", the Super Constellation that had a tall radome on top and a round radome underneath. If an A-3 were to fly over my home today, ( I know, they are all decommissioned), I would still recognize the sound of the J57's. Carry on, fellow Whaler..!!
Thanks for this video, Ward. It's nice to be reminded of a time when our military leadership and our national leadership knew how to fight and win wars, as epitomized by the Greatest Generation and its magnificent men.
Outstanding, HONOR!
By the time you reiterated a few times the stories were all about MoH awardees that earned in the air, I figured out Jim Stockdale would not be in the story. Although I was never in the military and never in the intel community I was invited as a guest to the "Red Tie Luncheon" one year in San Diego (just a few miles from our MITRE offiice at the Navy Lab on Point Loma). The speaker was Admiral Stockdale (long after retirement, before run with Ross Perot). He was brilliant! All 300 or so people in the room knew his story. When he concluded, the standing-O was amazing!!! I will never forget that. I will also never forget what the press did to him during the campaign.
Knew him. (Check out my "heroes and mentors" episode.)
@@WardCarroll I will indeed. Thank's, Ward!
Thanks for taking the time and put these stories out. It's the only way the youth of today will understand how brave these guys were. RIP to all of the amazing heroes.
Great stories. Definitely one of your best talents, your ability to tell a story.
I learned more from this video than my 13 years in the Navy! Thanks for sharing these incredible stories and keeping their memories alive!!
Whats POV? Your call#?
@@davidgleinbach7316 No - “point of view”. Callsign was Virus
Thank you to ALL who have given their lives, and to those who have and still serve.
God Bless America!💪🏼🇺🇸
I bought my house about 3,800 fee north of NAS Miramar in 1987, well before Tustin and El Toro were closed and moved there with the Navy op squadrons moving to Lemoore (et al) and Top Gun moving to Fallon. I still love living here as I've always believed jet noise is the sound of freedom. OMG the F-35C's are soooo much louder than the Super Hornets (different story for a different day). I know you were pretty much an East coast sailor and your stories are heavily there. Could you come up with a good West coast story? You must have known a handful of guys that went through Top Gun. If you do or don't, I still think your work is excellent! Thanks a great deal!!
Amazing heroics by America’s finest. Thanks for sharing.
"...even if I have to lay it on the flight deck!" , I get chills hearing that. That's some motivational hype talk that'd you'd hear someone say while trying to drive the point home to be committed and express just how important the upcoming task is. I could only imagine seeing that happen in the air and on the enemy deck... "holy shit! he's actually going to lay that mf'r on the flight deck!!"
Amazing acts of bravery and thanks for relating them. 🇬🇧
I read about these heroes when I was an adolescent. Their courage still inspires.
My dad did a 9 month world cruise on the USS Bonn Homme Richard from 1959 to 1960. David McCambell was the ships captain
Wonderfull & courageous men like these are the reason we have freedom! Best episode yet!
Blue on blue....heart breaking! As always, great stories of the finest in Naval Aviation!
Well presented Ward. Best wishes from a long time admirer of U.S. naval aviation in the U.K.
Thanks for posting this episode! It's so great learning about people like these who go above and beyond to exemplify what the Medal of Honor stands for and to inspire others!
Love your Les Paul in the background, your playing ain't bad either; but your historical knowledge and the gift of gab surpassed your musical skill without a question! Keep on flying!
Wow, goose bumps the whole way through. Thank you for sharing these wonderful stories.
Greetings Commander Ward Carrol U.S. Navy-Retired. I spent 30+ years in the Department of the Navy, the U,S. Marines. My time in the Corps had started out with me being in the Infantry, and then Naval Aviation-Marine Helicopters. Always a pleasure to view your channel, and to view your televised remembrances of our country's Naval Aviation Heros, as well as our cousin service hero's of their Aviation enterprises. "Bravo Zulu", well done Sir, well done indeed..
Great job Ward. HS pilot here, CVW 3, 1, and 5 in the order (JFK, America, and Kitty Hawk).
I especially loved that Hudner-Browne story and the subsequent ship naming result. I wonder if a movie ever depicted this story?
In post production
Mentioned earlier post production based on book devotion
Perfectly timed because of what happened in Kabul, yesterday 💔
Great stories, Ward! We need more like those. I spent 2 years on the Tico (68-70). It was a great experience. Thanks again@
Though not carrier-based (but still ship-based), you should include Lieutenant Clyde Lassen. He was awarded the MOH for rescuing two downed naval aviators in North Vietnam in 1968. Two separate attempts, at night, under enemy fire, and after colliding with a tree. He finally resorted to turning on his landing lights (still under fire) in order to land and pick up his rescuees. The award citation doesn’t state specifically, but I seem to remember reading that he was flying an HH-2 Seaprite.
Another true hero
This one gets a LIKE. Not just for Commander Carroll's excellent work, but for six good men who gave everything they had for our country. Thank you all.
I so appreciate the in-depth work you provide all of us that ‘follow’ you.
I was scrolling through all of the VLog’s you have completed and realized how important these presentations are. Unfortunately. Many people do not read texts like they used to in the century past. For that reason , in itself you are documenting important Naval and Political History that has shaped the USA and the World to what we proudly have today.
I hope you have given thought to a method of ‘preservation’, these files. Perhaps with the Naval Institute as a continuation of your incredible Journalism.
Thank you Ward. For all you do for the free world.
The American public and especially school age children need to learn more about such men.
They need to understand the real sacrifices that were made by these valiant flesh and blood men.
My grandson told me that Congressional medal of honors recipients go to schools
And do just that..
Thank-you, Ward for this video. God Bless these Heroes.
Legends! All of them, men of extraordinary courage! Thanks for sharing
Ward. Love this post. Congers many real-life instances of remarkable heroism in the here & now. By all means, keep'em coming!
At the end of the movie, "The Bridges At Toko Ri", when Rear Admiral George Tarrant learns that Lt. Brubaker had been shot down, and the rescue attempt further takes the lives of the helicopter crew sent to save him, says, "Where do we get such men? They leave this ship and they do their job. Then they must find this speck lost somewhere on the sea. When the find it they have to land on it's pitching deck. Where do we get such men?" Military history is replete with heroic actions, but only a few rise to the category of the Medal of Honor. When we ask our military to go into harms way, time and again, they do. God bless them all.
I've heard these before, now I've heard them again, you can never hear too much about these brave, selfless aviators. Thank you
Who can watch this without tearing up?? Not me. Outstanding Ward.
Great episode. Just finished Punks War - intense and fantastic. Thanks
Thank you for these historic lessons.
Such heroes must not be forgotten.
It is great knowing the Men and Stories behind the naming of so many icons and landmarks! Thank You - Hero Ward!
There is supposed to be a movie about Thomas Hudner and Jesse Brown, come out this year called Devotion. Haven't hear when. Thanks Ward.
Sooner the better!
Thanks!
Thanks for the support, Mark!
@WardCarroll sir big tomcat fan I was on the USS New Jersey off Lebanon on 1983 and 84 first Tomcat I ever saw still the sweetest aircraft to me ever made I appreciate your work sir thank you
Thank you, you're a great story-teller, Mooch. Also, it was during the time that LCDR Thach was flying with Butch O'Hare as his wingman that he developed the Thach Weave.
I wonder if CAPT David McCampbell's callsign was McSoup.
Wow, great episode. Thank you for posting this. Looking forward to the next video.
Outstanding. Love your history lessons. From an old USS Enterprise petty officer. Was fortunate enough to watch the filming of Top Gun. Tom Cruise cannot throw dog tags or anything else I imagine, worth a damn.
Ward, I think I speak for many when we say how much I look forward to your videos. To hear the stories of such heroism and bravery is inspiring to say the least. Thank you for your service and continued service by sharing the wonderful information and stories that you have. They’re definitely pure gold. I think you ought to do some guitar stuff for us. Maybe the top gun theme 😉. Much love from NC and God Bless America and those who serve us.
Truly appreciate the good words and ongoing support, Ibby.
Good job Ward. Tom Hudner was my CO in VT-24. I heard his story from one of his squadron mates right after I was winged and commissioned. There was one detail in the account I heard that differs significantly from the official version. 'Nuf said.
I was a nugget photo pilot in CAG-19 aboard Ticonderoga and was in the tower as our detachment observer when Mike Estocin brought his damaged A-4E aboard on the 20th. We could see the fuel streaming out of his A-4 on final. It wasn't on fire until he trapped when the sparks from the tail hook ignited the fuel pouring out as he rolled out. The mini boss was controlling at the time and transmitted to Mike as the belly of the A-4 burst into flame "don't eject, don't eject!" Mike stayed put and his plane captain with the gear pins in hand actually beat the fire crew to the plane. They had the fire, which was external, out within seconds. It was a virtuoso performance by all hands from Mike on down.
Thank you for your efforts to educate us, the public. Gerald.
Real heroes. Thank you for telling their stories...we must never forget them.
Brave men all RIP those who didn't make it back. I salute them from the UK Great episode Ward.
Fortunately we have always had our fair share of men like this, some recognized some not. But when there is a need the man will appear. The number of men both Officer and Enlisted I served with in the Marines that would on a daily basis go above and beyond was astounding and when I retired it was one of the things I sorely missed. Working with the caliber of men who daily went above and beyond is something rarely found in the civilian world with the exception of emergency personnel.
Thank you Ward! These videos are truly superb.
That such men lived should make us all proud to be Americans. I served as an Army Infantryman for 21 years, and the Medal of Honor is often equated with ground combat against overwhelming odds, a la Audie Murphy. Launching off a carrier to face unknown enemy forces while relying on machines takes a special breed, though. You had to hope, especially during WWII and Korea, when the concept of aircraft carriers was fairly new and airplanes had been around for less than a half-century, that not only your plane, but the machine guns were in perfect working order, and that the enemy didn't get a lucky shot in. I can't knock modern day pilots whatsoever, but in the days of dogfighting and direct aerial combat, it took a lot of courage to go up knowing that you might come back down in a flaming ball of wreckage.
Thanks for the content, I've been enjoying every minute of it.
My Pa-in-Law was on the Ticonderoga as a fellow Lt. Cmdr (VA 192) and participated in the write-up for Excotin's MoH. It's all recapped in the book, Alpha Strike Vietnam by Jeffrey L. Levinson, at the end of chapter 19. Balls of steel... Good work Mr. Carroll. Thanks for your service.
It is super humbling to be in the same profession as these heroes. I know I'm just not built like that, but I'm grateful they were.
Such inspiration these me bring! Thank You for this episode.
Thank you for sharing these stories Ward
I mainly watch guitar/music oriented channels, but this is one of my all time favorite channels. You're doing a fantastic historical service, Ward. Keep up the great work. I'll keep watching. Cheers and thanks for your service! 🤘
Wow, those are humbling and inspiring stories of heroism. Thanks for sharing, Ward.
Your content and delivery just get better and better.
Great video Ward, you never disappoint. Also, checkout the post Civil War military fraternal organization called Grand Army of the Republic. It's similar in concept to the American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars. One thing I noticed about them is their membership badge looks just like the original Medal of Honor with U.S. Flag suspension ribbon attached to the medal that clipped on your uniform instead of hanging around your neck.. It was founded 6 April 1866 and dissolved 2 August 1956 when the last surviving member died.
Great episode. A well-deserved homage to brave aviators. I believe the Butch O'Hare display features a different model of the Wildcat in O'Hare's markings. It's not a replica, but an actual restored Wildcat.
Thanks for the briefing…well done and most appreciated.
Outstanding storytelling on your part. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and telling the stories that make this a successful channel :-)
Well Done Ward. Thank You for this episode.
Men of courage, honor and valor. Wish they would show stories about men like this in our public schools.
Ward - you do a terrific job! Keep on keepin on! More comments below.
Thank you for this episode the bravery of these aviators must be remembered for ever.. I have had the highest honor to meet several M.O.H. recipients all very brave men indeed.