Here's How a Fighter Pilot Landed a Cargo Plane on a Carrier

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    In the fall of 1963, the U.S. Navy conducted a series of test flights involving a C-130 and the U.S.S. Forrestal (CV-59). The project was a proof-of-concept that heavy transport aircraft could be operated from aircraft carriers as "Super CODs," support aircraft that could bring a large quantity of equipment aboard in support of the fleet or whatever else the situation might demand, including supporting U-2 spy planes operating off of other aircraft carriers. The chief test pilot for this series of flights was Jim Flatley, the son of legendary World War II carrier pilot Jimmy Flatley.
    In this episode, Rear Admiral Flatley joins Ward to discuss the details of this unique and daring test operation.
    Additionally, Rear Admiral Flatley would like to acknowledge his two Flight Engineers, AD1 John Brennan and AD1 Al Sieve, who traded off as Flight Engineers during the Carrier Trials.

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  • @tommcpherson6594
    @tommcpherson6594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Great interview on a little known facet of C-130 ops. I was a Flight Test Engineer at Pax River in that era and Jim and I were classmates at TPS. (I only did the academic part, although I believe Jim and I did a T-28 airspeed/altitude position error flight together). I went on to NASA in late 1963 and wound up managing the integration of payloads to the Space Shuttle some 30 years later. It was great to see RADM Flatley again and great to rethink my time at Pax. Nothing but good memories of working with some outstanding pilots and Naval officers. Thanks, Ward for doing this kind of interview.

    • @justincase5272
      @justincase5272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ward: Please pin this.

    • @johnkowlok3231
      @johnkowlok3231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did you not also work on the parachute system for the Apollo missions? Or, did google fail me?

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did you work at the Cape or another facility like the one in Cleveland? I'd imagine the Cape since you were doing payloads for the Shuttle.
      My uncle worked at the Cape from Mercury through the Shuttle program and into the era of the ISS for Boeing, speaking of payloads it was his team that was given the task of doing the post accident reports on the Boeing built Defense Department satellite that was on the Challenger after it's accident.
      And a connection through the other side of my family is my mother's cousin was a navigator on a B24 that was shot down and killed during the war, but the pilot survived and went on in life to get a degree in Aeronautical Engineering and worked at the NACA (later NASA) facility in Cleveland until his retirement, he was involved in the Apollo program, he had something to do with the reactor that was on the LEM or something.

    • @DanielLopez-up6os
      @DanielLopez-up6os 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Amazing to hear!

    • @douglashall2141
      @douglashall2141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for your service sir. 🇺🇸🦅

  • @dangurley3573
    @dangurley3573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Wow this is good! I love RADM Flatley's sense of humor and storytelling style. Please have him back on!

    • @philmorrissette
      @philmorrissette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100%

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is why they are called the GREATEST GENERATION (while he was not in WW2) he was part of that Generation and he said it clearly. You never questioned, you just did it. General Washington said, "We will do our Duty." I LOVE TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE. I see them all the time, when you find out they were a VETERAN, totally awesome. The WW2 guys are almost gone, the Korean and Vietnam Guys are still around, so TALK TO THEM and find out why they are so great.

    • @georgesoros6415
      @georgesoros6415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never met a reticent Carrier fighter pilot!!!! Not WWII. Not Desert Storm...LOL!

    • @mkmabl
      @mkmabl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bobbycv64 In a no-draft, all volunteer force across all services today there is likely more commitment to, "duty" through the ranks than any time there were conscripts (1940-1973 in that era). As for "Greatest Generation" Tom Brokaw titled that book but he was wanting to make sales when they were alive. If there was an Apex generation and we assume we are on the downslope I'd put it on the parents of the WW2 youngsters. The parents were still close to pioneer stock, did all the building and planning and leadership required to win that, and had come-up (or over on a boat) with no notion of the cradle-to-grave collective society that came out of WW2 (My Grandpa was Destroyer CMM '40-'46). I'd actually put the "greatest" title on the generation of fighting age in WW1...they were the parents who raised the kids who fought in WW2.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mkmabl thank you Mike, sound like a Patriot to me, very few of us left.

  • @ferdberfle5069
    @ferdberfle5069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Good to see RADM Flatley again! He was CAG aboard USS Independence my last deployment back in the late '70s. Thanks for a great interview CDR Carroll!

    • @drop12341
      @drop12341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was also aboard the Indy, in the Medical Department, when RADM Flatley was aboard.

    • @bobmarlowe3390
      @bobmarlowe3390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was our CO on the Saratoga in '80.

  • @joestephan1111
    @joestephan1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My Air Force father, who finished out his career as a C-130 pilot, was mind boggled when he learned of this years later.

  • @sc1784
    @sc1784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    RADM Flatley to Ward @18:07: "Thank you for what you do. You do a great job. I can see why you are so popular." Well-deserved high praise from a great Naval Aviator from a great Navy Family. It does not get much better than that. No wonder Ward was grinning from ear to ear.

    • @richardpettys4928
      @richardpettys4928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mooch is the man and engaged in some exploits that are legendary. He should tell you about them sometime.

  • @dockmasterted
    @dockmasterted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I was on the Forrestall, and got to watch him do it. My station was as a smoke watch for the boiler tenders, and I stood my watch next to the funnels of the ship top side on the island. He did great on all his fly bys and landings!

    • @joseangelvalencia639
      @joseangelvalencia639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Larry Mayyotte,thank you for your service, and thank God for pilots like Mr. RADM.

    • @Sovjetski-
      @Sovjetski- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joseangelvalencia639 Mr RADM ? You mean Mr Flatley or Rear Admiral Flatley ?

  • @Charlie-Oooooo
    @Charlie-Oooooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    What a treat to actually hear it from the pilot who flew the mission! And such an honor! Thank you sirs!

    • @benmac940
      @benmac940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely, remember reading about it back when I saw the c 130 land on a carrier on JAG good to actually hear the first hand story of the real thing.

  • @bassinwithbuck4955
    @bassinwithbuck4955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    This was AWESOME. Need to get this gentleman back for more stories about his career.

    • @mackdaddy4766
      @mackdaddy4766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good idea.

    • @therugburnz
      @therugburnz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mackdaddy4766 I enjoy two people of any profession talkin' bout the good 'ones'.

    • @richardgorski23
      @richardgorski23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He seems to forget the Maintenance people that made it all possible.

    • @petepeterson4540
      @petepeterson4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes mouch does it was done another time too but on Enterprise

    • @AA-xo9uw
      @AA-xo9uw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richardgorski23 Limited time to cover every topic necessary to appease all of the critics that come out of the woodwork.

  • @dgax65
    @dgax65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    That was a great interview. I've seen the pictures and read little tidbits about this, but it is fascinating hearing it directly from the man who actually had to do it.

    • @uapnz0698
      @uapnz0698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      RADM is sharp as a tack.
      Exceptional with words and recall 👏
      Thank-you sir. Thank-you mooch

  • @davidmahoy4478
    @davidmahoy4478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great interview, I was on the Forrestal when this took place, was standing on the starboard catwalk to witness the landing and take off. A day I will never forget.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Once we were detached with our C-130 to El Centro and found there was a carrier deck marked out on the runway. It looked like a postage stamp but we thought we'd have a go. With minimum fuel, no load and a bit of favourable wind it could be done!

  • @pjingham11
    @pjingham11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hi Ward, I'm an Old Marine Grunt and love your channel. I've always loved Naval Aviation and your channel brings it to life. You are a great interviewer with wonderful guests. It's great that you interpret the aviator speak without dumbing everything down. Good Job

  • @williammrdeza9445
    @williammrdeza9445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Wow! Another great episode with a behind the scenes look at a little known piece of carrier aviation history. Hats off to the Rear Admiral for his courage and “balls out” attitude to work out the logistics of landing such a large airplane on such a small platform! Quite impressive!

  • @davelew86
    @davelew86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    88 years young and memory is still sharp as a tack! Great interview marking a one off experience for the boat, crew and pilots! While CO of VF-31 he lead the Tomcatters in winning the Battle E and CNO safety awards during combat deployment: 2,200 squadron combat missions without personnel or aircraft, injury or loss.
    I was on the FID with VF-11 in 90-91 .. AO

  • @arkiefyler
    @arkiefyler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    "Fighter pilots can do anything!" 😜 Almost every military pilot thinks he can anything! 😳
    Flew the hurk for 98% of my time in the USAF. We always said it could do anything you wanted... except fly fast! Most "fun" I've ever had rotating to Viet Nam from the PI for over two years! It's still providing capabilities for our country!

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The new models of 130s are even more badass. Still rolling out brand new airframes after 50+ years.

    • @trashpanda314
      @trashpanda314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was an airborne infantryman in the Army and was always amazed at the capabilities of the C-130 and the pilots that flew them. C-17’s as well. I could go on for days about the weather and conditions they flew us in(mostly in Alaska) and always got us to our objectives. Tail gate jumps were my personal favorite as they avoided most of the prop blast.

    • @waynefletcher9884
      @waynefletcher9884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RCAvhstape amazing isn’t it! I road as a Marine sitting on net like seats facing inboard and we could barely hear ourselves think even with ear plugs! Then you scare yourself when you look above you and see a bunch of exposed cables moving to and throw and all the while wondering? What happens if any of them were to break? 😳 ya bored Marines will think about a shit load of things to pass the time away!
      Oh well, the worse part it usually takes 1 full day after flying in one for any amount of time to get that engine sound out of your head! C-130’s took us everywhere on short halls and C-141’s took us across the pacific plenty of times too! Great planes and good times! Semper Fi

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waynefletcher9884 Semper Fidelis back at ya

    • @nitro390
      @nitro390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nine years USAF, the hurk is why I’m deaf, but still my favorite airframe. It wasn’t much fun commuting to Shemya though! The reason most military pilots think they can do anything, is most military pilots can. The Huey guys were nuts but gave a fun ride as well.

  • @andyaim4764
    @andyaim4764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    What I love about your channel is no flim flam, no outrageous thumbnails, no begging for views or subscribers, just honest great content of hero aviators, whose courage speaks for themselves Bravo 😊

  • @AA-xo9uw
    @AA-xo9uw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    BuNo 149798 was "borrowed" from the Marine Corps at Cherry Point and modified in Marietta. It continued in service with the Marine Corps and flew in theater missions during both OIF and OEF finally being retired in 2005 with 26,220 flight hours.
    Then Lt. Flatley was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his efforts.

    • @richardpettys4928
      @richardpettys4928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think that the Navy actually owned any C-130’s. They were all Marine birds. Of course, you do know that MARINE is an acronym, right? It stands for My Arse Rides In Navy Equipment!

  • @DaveandGinny972
    @DaveandGinny972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've worked with the C130 on short take off and landings during my time in the RAF as a firefighter and been in lucky enough to have been perched behind the left seat in the cockpit during some training flights. This was some incredible achievement. Incredible skill from the pilots in one of the most versatile and endearing aircraft of the last 60 years!

  • @dairyairline
    @dairyairline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ward, In the 1967-68 years , Mel Fielder , flying for Air America landed a C-123 on a carrier on Yankee station. He had a load of NVA's and Saigon was socked in , limited fuel he was directed to the gulf carrier, his first and only landing, no take offs, they pushed it over the side. Volunteered at Planes Of Fame Twin Cities until his untimely death in the 80's. AOPA Sept 1995

  • @williampeck6881
    @williampeck6881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    we throughly enjoy the wide range of aviation legends you call AoM. Flatley's recitation of the Herc-as-COD trials was a real treat. Keep 'em coming!

  • @WaltEagles24
    @WaltEagles24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I was on a carrier off the west coast in 67. They cleared the flight deck of aircraft and personnel one day. They did that because they landed a U-2 that needed refueled. About an hour later we turned into the wind and he started a little aft of the Island and was airborne shortly. That was truly an unusual event.

    • @JeffreyRust-oq7rw
      @JeffreyRust-oq7rw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is this aTop Gun bull shit

    • @JeffreyRust-oq7rw
      @JeffreyRust-oq7rw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Next it will be a B 52 then a B 1 then the space shuttle

    • @nateohman4713
      @nateohman4713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't happen in '67. It happened but history is pretty specific, your lie should have been May 1964.

  • @v12mike30
    @v12mike30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    During WW2 (1943 I think) there was a case where a New Zealand Air Force Whitley bomber was landed on a US Carrier. My dad was a radio mechanic in a NZAF squadron and was a close friend of the pilot during and after the war.
    The story as I recall was that there was a big strategy conference on one of the Pacific Islands, attended by all of the senior allied commanders in the region, including a US Navy admiral who arrived on his aircraft carrier. During the conference, the carrier got urgent orders to sail somewhere else, and it left without the admiral. The admiral could not fly a single seater, and the only multi-seat aircraft available was a Whitley bomber, and my dad's friend was tasked with returning the admiral to his ship. He apparently made a perfect landing on the carrier, but the deck was not long enough for take-off, and the plane was too big to be stowed on board, so it was just pushed off the end of the deck. It was several weeks before the pilot could be transferred to a ship that would return him to his squadron.

  • @richardgreen7811
    @richardgreen7811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ward ... our full gratitude for finding and bringing us folks like this magnificent and brave Admiral. I've seen these clips before but the back story really brings it home. Thanks again.

  • @jakegodi6520
    @jakegodi6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    C-130 has always been my favorite aircraft to watch. Best part of the video to me was the respect you showed the Admiral, "Thank you, Sir."

  • @vxe6vxe6
    @vxe6vxe6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It took an entire crew to fly the KC-130F:
    Pilot: Lt. James H. Flatley III
    Co-Pilot: Lt. Cmdr. W. “Smokey” Stovall
    Flight Engineer: ADR-1 Ed Brennan
    Crewchief: ADR-1 Al Sieve
    Lockheed test pilot: Ted Limmer
    The plane:
    Navy T/M/S: KC-130F (USAF C-130B)
    BUNO: 149798
    Lockheed Constructors Number: 282-3680
    Location: Naval Aviation Museum, Pensacola, FL

    • @kikupub71
      @kikupub71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A virtual who’s who of naval aviation! Thanks for sharing sir!

  • @topiasr628
    @topiasr628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    These are so great for actually personalizing many of the folks that lead/have led our military. They are all people - very competent people but people nonetheless - and it's neat hearing their stories

  • @earthwindflier
    @earthwindflier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great interview! Sort of surreal hearing/seeing the juxtaposition of the last episode with a 5th gen fighter with it's automation, and THIS episode going old school hand flying a Herc relying on nothing but the air speed indicator. Lot of wisdom in that.

    • @cvillalobos27
      @cvillalobos27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One Lockheed that works and one that does not over the carrier.

  • @stevegabbert9626
    @stevegabbert9626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm not a flier, or into military flying, but over the years I have picked up most of the terms the two of you were bringing up. That made watching this video easy to view. I remember the first time I saw a clip of the B-25s stacked up on a carrier deck and then taking off. I was totally amazed with that, and wondered what else they could do. Apparently, just about anything.

  • @igloo54
    @igloo54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yeah, those Flatley's are definitely a "hold my beer and watch this" type of family.

  • @deaddropholiday
    @deaddropholiday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pity old Eric Brown passed away a few years back. +/- 2500 Carrier take offs in some of the sketchiest conditions and planes imaginable. A legend.

    • @jeffreycrawley1216
      @jeffreycrawley1216 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh he was such a lovely man! Met him twice, once at RAE Farnborough when I was in the Air Cadets - he saw us in our uniforms and broke away from a bunch of Brass to come and have a chat: "Don't forget! Fly Navy! It's much more interesting!" and the second time much, much later in a pub near Copthorne (Gatwick Airport area) where he'd retired. Still had that lovely soft Scottish accent and commiserated with me when I told him I never got to be a pilot (colour blind - I became a Civil Engineer instead): "Never mind! Just make sure that whatever you do you do it well!"

  • @thelovertunisia
    @thelovertunisia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Caroll this was one of the most amazing moments in aviation I think. Sad that they never implemented it on a regular basis but I understand that such a huge plane would hamper carrier operations for too long until it departed.

    • @withershin
      @withershin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet there's an SOP on how to get that plane off the deck for salvage later

    • @boblynch2802
      @boblynch2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Whose is to say that this is a capability that may have been used from time to time by the Special Ops community? Super COD may have been a cover.

    • @thelovertunisia
      @thelovertunisia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boblynch2802 Maybe

    • @yes_head
      @yes_head 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It sounds like the carrier would have been so deeply embedded in the whole U2 ops scenario that all the normal "business as usual"-type operations would have been suspended anyways.

  • @claytonmoen1221
    @claytonmoen1221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I met Adm Flatley when I was stationed on the JFK. I drew a blood sample from him during a routine crew testing. Admiral Flatley was exceptionally friendly and I will never forget that moment in my career. What you see here is just how he was then. Awesome. Thank you for this video.

  • @jupiterjunk
    @jupiterjunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember seeing this old footage WAY back in the 80's . It's very cool to hear about the experience from the pilot himself.

  • @johncheney3670
    @johncheney3670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a treat to hear from the Admiral first hand. Thanks Mooch.

  • @thomasjoyce7910
    @thomasjoyce7910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    U2s ideally have a chase car to help with landing because it is so challenging to ease down.
    Landing on a carrier must have been exceptionally difficult.

    • @edwardweeden8837
      @edwardweeden8837 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ABH’s ran alongside the wings for several steps on takeoff (no cats obviously) and on landing there was so much WOD that nobody needed anything in chase mode. You can see a landing in the middle of this video post.

  • @lancet.346
    @lancet.346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dang. He needed the Herc's cargo capacity for his cajones.

    • @Aspen51
      @Aspen51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Was just about to say the same thing Lance - Bigger than Texas! And I was firmly in the "Nah - that's a pure line" camp when I first heard about it back in the day......

  • @jaxsmith1744
    @jaxsmith1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Classmate of my old man's (Capt. P.J. Smith USNA 1956) Admiral Flatley was the best of his class and some great officers and aviators from 56.

  • @michaelwellman2079
    @michaelwellman2079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, that takes Guts, Know How and One Heck of a good Cargo plane. Think about landing on an Aircraft Carrier flying Any plane or jet or riding in one and can not see anything.
    Big Brass Ones RADM Flatley, no disrespect Sir, just a Salute from an ARMY crewchief OH-58 helos.

  • @paulloveless9180
    @paulloveless9180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As usual, extremely interesting and unique content Mr. Carrol.

  • @C5B-jc1yj
    @C5B-jc1yj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am a retired USAF flyer. My father-in-law was the primary air traffic controller for this test mission. He was so humble but had a remarkable career in the Navy. I miss his presence.

  • @yolanda231000
    @yolanda231000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How does he sit so comfortably with balls that big? Absolutely amazing story!

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am a general Aviation no body but I love your channel. As a QBr, I share your post often with my fellow brothers who the majority have flown heavy metal. One of the reason I joined was to hear the stories and be associate with these heroes.

  • @Gordon705
    @Gordon705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was at a dinner where the Admiral spoke. As he was introduced they went on and on about his career and it all went over my head. Then the intro speaker says "for all of you Air Force guys who aren't impressed, Admiral Flatly landed and took off a C-130 from an aircraft carrier 4 times.". Wait a minute ! I had heard about the tests and now I'm going to get to hear that pilot speak ! I know I sat up straight and was all ears. As I recall the room gave him a standing ovation at the end.

  • @ResolUloseR
    @ResolUloseR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Did something similar in a P3C Orion. We didn't land (obviously) but we did get to get in the landing loop and simulate a trap on a carrier. *put that ships wake into your left armpit". We were doing some defensive system work with a carrier and its multiple levels of defense. Made like 4-5 runs at it from varying angles and distances. The one thing that stood out from the event (aside from the simulated bolter at the end) was the fact we had Limp Bizcuts "All for the Nookie" playing from our transmissions in place of regular radio comms. We got close to the carrier deck and it was cool to hear the "Bolter, Bolter, Bolter" call.

    • @byrdogoneable
      @byrdogoneable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      As a vmgr 352 flight mechanic, I flew many hours on 798. She deserves her spot at the museum in pcola

    • @clydeoyler1760
      @clydeoyler1760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@byrdogoneable Yes sir she does!

    • @truckerray7533
      @truckerray7533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would have love to seen a U.S. Navy P-3 Orian land aboard my flattops! Would have loved to seen a C-130 Hercules flattop during my time as well!

    • @truckerray7533
      @truckerray7533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In 1959, in my home town of Cortez, co. there was A U2 Spy plane that flammed out at 70,000 ft & made a may day emergency landing at night. I remember my dad talking about it when i was a youngin. Dad was 16yrs old at the time. I had read the full story of it this past christmas at our little airport!

    • @ResolUloseR
      @ResolUloseR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@truckerray7533 cool memories.

  • @sprout5199
    @sprout5199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was the Admiral's driver for 2 change of commands when I was stationed on the USS Flatley (FFG-21) from 1987 to 1991. I still remember meeting him the first time to drive him to the Flatley, he had his wife and his mother get into the back, and he joined me in the front, we chatted about the ship, and things. I was an ET3 at the time, scared to death. Two years later, I was chosen the be him driver again, he remmeberdr

    • @sprout5199
      @sprout5199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He remembered me as his driver. Admiral Flatley, the way you treated a lowly enlisted man (a black shoe at that) showed that the brass really cares for the Navy.
      Dan in Jupiter
      ET 2 USS-Flatley (FFG-21)

  • @zebbocaster
    @zebbocaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Proud to say that the Admiral's eldest son, Seamus (CAPT James H Flatley IV, USN Ret.) is my classmate, company mate, and friend. Thank you for this wonderful interview with a true American hero.

  • @zekesdad562
    @zekesdad562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a 16 year USAF PR/SOF HC/MC-130 pilot, we all watched videos of this test in awe. How awesome to get the story straight from the pilot who flew the test flights.
    Thanks for arranging the interview!

  • @ralphcorsi741
    @ralphcorsi741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was nice. It’s a shame we were not able to hear from Army Air Force Lieutenants Fitzgerald and McCarthy who were the first to take off a B-25 from an aircraft carrier in February of 1942.

  • @malalexander3515
    @malalexander3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An excellent interview. Quite to the point in a friendly fashion. I'm familiar with the S2E/G Tracker, sister to the C1 Trader, having previously been an avionics technician in the Royal Australian Navy, working on the S2. I'd heard of the C130 Carrier trials, seen the odd photo but it was great to see the moving pics ;-) and hear from the driver! Once again, a great & informative interview. PS I'm now retired and do volunteer work on a flyable S2 at an air museum at Albion Park, NSW Australia.

  • @gregorymaupin6388
    @gregorymaupin6388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best ship in the fleet I love the FID! I was proud to serve on her! I have watched the admirals story’s so many times but never from his own lips thanks for bringing it to us. Admiral Fletcher thank you for your amazing service!

  • @hamishwest3901
    @hamishwest3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Look Ma, No HooK" Love it! Fantastic video as always.

  • @johnny9353
    @johnny9353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Témoignage formidable. Merci de nous offrir ces tranches de vies et de courage qui font l’aviation. Thanks for this testimony. For all fans of aviation’s history.

  • @thebronzetoo
    @thebronzetoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview, Mooch! Sadly, pioneers like ADM Flatley won't be around forever. Chronicalling NavAir History is one of the best things about your channel!

  • @CactusPatriot
    @CactusPatriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ward, you are a national treasure. I finally understand a little better the Aviation Mafia (or whatever it correctly called)- that loose connection to which you obviously belong - with the movers and shakers of Naval Aviation, the value of the Academy relationship, the 'This ain't no shit..." stories from the mouths of those who actually did it. You know enough to track down the interviews, how perfectly to steer the conversations, and the best way to provide that information in an entertaining manner. Sir, I stand in awe.

  • @abricio
    @abricio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fantastic to hear from Pioneers like RADM Flatley. Chalk up another great interview on the channel!

  • @harrylime3.143
    @harrylime3.143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was a great video, love the history, love the by the seat of the paints style. Very good to get this on tape while its still possible, thanks Ward⚓💪🇺🇸😎💗

    • @vmpgsc
      @vmpgsc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know if you meant to type "seat of the paints" but that is perfect.

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic achievement, fantastic interview. Just brilliant!
    I’d love to hear from the guy that had to land a U-2!

    • @yes_head
      @yes_head 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was probably given a new identity and shuffled off to some remote corner of the South Pacific! 😄

  • @AVweb
    @AVweb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent interview, Ward.

  • @bearowen5480
    @bearowen5480 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like most Naval Aviators of that generation, I had heard scuttlebutt about Jim Flatley and the C-130 sea trial landings, but never heard any of the fascinating details revealed in this fantastic interview. Thanks, Mooch, for conceiving and executing it. A real piece of Naval Aviation history!

    • @bobmarlowe3390
      @bobmarlowe3390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When he was CO of the Saratoga in 1980, he completed his 1,500th arrested landing in an F-4 with his son, a midshipman at the time, in the back seat. I've always said he was the best CO I ever served under.

  • @jameshisself9324
    @jameshisself9324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LEGEND. Very well done on scoring an interview with this great Navy man. Can't wait for more from him, he has hours of stories no doubt.

  • @Willysmb44
    @Willysmb44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know people to this day who swear this never happened and that any photo showing it was faked. I think this settles the issue for all time

  • @tonypence0602
    @tonypence0602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh wow! My first flight instructor was a Lockheed employee in Marietta GA. He built the center wing section on the C-130. He once told me this story. It is awesome to hear the whole story from the pilot. Absolutely amazing.

  • @jamescrockett6887
    @jamescrockett6887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hi Ward, I don't fly aircraft, Nor have very much knowledge in the way of familiarity regarding aviation. But from watching your channel I wish I did! I watch every video from beginning to end, and have gone back and watched all of the videos that you made before I found your channel. A side note, your presentation dialog, contend, and editing has, and still is noticeably better with almost every video you release. Just keep in mind that many of us don't know a thing about aviation, so please continue to explain the little things regarding aviation and aircraft nomenclature involved in your videos etc. An idea for you would be to sometimes, in a short video, possibly 5 minutes or whatever time needed, would be to explain what things on aircraft do, when they are used, their importance, etc. For example flaps, what they do, their purpose, when used. Their importance. Maybe some of the basic physics. Also knots vs miles per could be another. Sharing some more of your musical talents also! Thank You for making my day everytime TH-cam notifies me that Ward Carroll has just release a new video. The recevt astronaut and admiral videos should some be given some kind of special award. I enjoy your longer videos. Thanks again for the entertainment and knowledge you impart to all of your viwers! Jimmy

    • @WardCarroll
      @WardCarroll  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for your support, Jimmy. It makes all the difference with my motivation to keep this channel growing.

  • @loudog1547
    @loudog1547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome interview!! Like always Mooch we want more!!! You keep coming with these awesome stories and interviews. Would love to hear more stories from RADM Flatley

  • @DRCarpetDR
    @DRCarpetDR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a small but legendary chapter in C-130 and naval history. Thank-you Ward for letting us get to hear the story first hand. Amazing!

  • @wilsonle61
    @wilsonle61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Admiral Flatley promoted my son to Cadet LTC in the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) at Patriots Point (USS Yorktown) South Carolina back in 2004. The admiral's mother was there. The Admiral and his Mother were both very gracious. Nice to see him again, a great sea story!

  • @frankbarnwell____
    @frankbarnwell____ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A fine Navy day. Ty Mr Carroll

  • @brianshell4111
    @brianshell4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for your service sir. These are the real super heros.

  • @jasonh8043
    @jasonh8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Deepest respect and admiration for what you pilots accomplished over the years. So much info comes out to the general public DECADES after the fact. Can't even imagine the things going on now that we'll find out about in 25 or more years !

  • @On-Our-Radar-24News
    @On-Our-Radar-24News 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic Ward!! What a true hero! How can we write to RADM Flately? I would love to express my admiration for his accomplishments.

  • @yourshootingbuddy
    @yourshootingbuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The Admiral tells a great story about something most people, more than 99%, know nothing about and its riveting. Great job Ward.

  • @rkentblackwood
    @rkentblackwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was born the month 798 was delivered, and then worked on 149798 when I was with VMGR-352 at El Toro. She's at the Pensacola, FL museum now.

  • @kippnashleymiller3752
    @kippnashleymiller3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love hearing history from the man that made it. Much respect!!

  • @Ben-uf7td
    @Ben-uf7td 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great discussion! Thanks for this one. Loved flying on that Herc (149798) in the Marines in the early 2000s, including invading Iraq with it. Most reliable of our squadron's Hercs. Good ole F-model. Hercs are amazing/versatile.

  • @JamesBrown-ct8nd
    @JamesBrown-ct8nd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoy your content! Keep up the great work!

  • @micbritt
    @micbritt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was fun. I've seen that C-130 footage many times, but super cool to get the back story from the Admiral himself.

  • @dragthatsht
    @dragthatsht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great story. Now you got find a U-2 pilot involved with carrier qual.

  • @jjd-lx5vr
    @jjd-lx5vr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like not that long ago we were congratulating you on 50k subscribers. Congratulations on your success. 🎉

  • @kevinmadore1794
    @kevinmadore1794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome interview! I always wondered about the details of the C-130 tests on the boat. So glad that you took the time to record this man's experiences. I'll bet he has a boat-load of interesting stories. Things were different in flight test back then.

  • @tedm.3961
    @tedm.3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome, thanks so much for preserving these stories/ historical events. Well done.

  • @JoseRivera-lt2cc
    @JoseRivera-lt2cc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always applaud your subject matter. Also, many thanks to the many brave men & women who have advanced aviation’s capabilities.

  • @12what34the
    @12what34the 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome content as always, great story from the admiral. Just like he said you're doing a great job, Mooch.

  • @brianbuttram3131
    @brianbuttram3131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Army aviator here, just wanted to say great job on a little-known part of naval aviation history! Keep at it! I enjoy listening to a professional who knows this important history. Cheers and keep the greasy side down!

  • @davedavids9619
    @davedavids9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview and seems to me that the Navy should start supporting your channel. You are doing a lot for them in explaining their mission to the public.
    Also great to see that so many of your former colleagues are willing to tell their story.

  • @oldmanfunky4909
    @oldmanfunky4909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an honor to hear from this man. Loved it!

  • @barrygrant2907
    @barrygrant2907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for presenting the real story of the -130 carrier ops. Hearing the -130 pilot was the icing on the cake.

  • @mwales2112
    @mwales2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C-130, greatest aircraft ever built... Real planes have props...

  • @patwillcox
    @patwillcox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Flying right at stall speed +\- 3kts for approach and landing...Big Airspeed gauge mandatory!!
    Wonder what the C-130 crew had for emergency survival plan
    If their aircraft went over the side of the carrier.
    Huge "atta-boys" to all the folks involved in that program.

    • @pettyfog1463
      @pettyfog1463 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dunno the drill but, at least the F model, there's a ladder and hatch rear of crew cabin. I used it when set a faulty HF wire antenna on fire during a Daily

  • @CarlZend
    @CarlZend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a non-American restaurateur.
    (First time viewer of this channel).
    I find your WW II stories fascinating and inspiring.
    Thank you.

  • @peter_a.6651
    @peter_a.6651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great video - have heard the stories of Landing a C-130 on a carrier but wondered if it was a true story or not - An honor to hear the story from the pilot that actually did it!

  • @flyjarrett
    @flyjarrett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RADM Flatley should have had his callsign changed to “Balls” after that.

  • @spikestubbs210
    @spikestubbs210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good thing a C-130 has a flight engineer...bet theirs was top notch.

    • @AA-xo9uw
      @AA-xo9uw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had two, ADR-1 Ed Brennan and ADR-1 Al Sieve both attached to VR-1.

  • @scottmanning8739
    @scottmanning8739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was interesting to hear about the real intent behind the project.I had always assumed it to test its viability as a Super COD.

  • @DorifutoRabbit
    @DorifutoRabbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great to hear from the pilot who did it, I'd seen another video about the high level stuff but getting the pilot's perspective is fantastic, thanks for the video

  • @kevinrenn9123
    @kevinrenn9123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That fact that he remembers 89 practice landings (not rounded to 90) from almost 60 years ago is an indicator of the cognitive abilities of RADM Flatley. Thank you for the story and you service to our country!

  • @MGXsport
    @MGXsport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for these and preserving history! You are doing amazing work with interviews and added photos and video to really illustrate what the guest is speaking about!

  • @robertwirth582
    @robertwirth582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go Navy
    Reservist activated 1970-1972. USS Ranger CVA 61- Yankee Station 70-71. Worked in AIMD than helped with V-3 Division when they were short staffed. The Officers, Chiefs and enlisted both Squadron and ship’s company were the finest guys I worked with. Same with VP-91 Moffett Field and VAQ 208 NAS Alameda.
    My hats off to all the girls in Olongapo Philippines. They were tough as nails too!
    Go Navy

  • @larrywoodall5735
    @larrywoodall5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was awesome! What a great interview!

  • @spitalul2bad
    @spitalul2bad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mooch seems to me to be incredibly famous. He can get anyone on his channel! Seriously.

  • @cew995
    @cew995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guys makes numerous full stop landings in 40 to 70 knots wind and the flight deck the flight deck is pitching 30 feet.
    Now the half a billion flying computer hits the ramp on a calm day. Numerous conclusions can be drawn from the comparison of the two scenarios.