I have 3 gripes with Nisei: The Darker tone, older characters doing things they otherwise wouldn't do in the original series and Mantaro's spotlight hogging. I feel Mantaro doesn't have the same level of affection for his friends as Suguru had for his.
Good ol' Ultimate Muscle. I remember starting my youtuber career by uploading the entire series on my old channel epserbaddazz2. Which is still up surprisingly lol.
You know, I feel like I gotta add to that point I made last year about Mantarou's friends pretty much getting the shaft: after having gotten all the way through the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc, I suddenly realized that I actually feel more sorry for Checkmate than I do Gazelleman. I mean, oh yeah, Gazelleman's treatment in the manga was terrible. They had all this character development planned for him only to forget he existed, and by the time they realized this, they figured they may as well treat him like a random extra. But Checkmate stuck with the group and has gotten worse treatment than Yamcha when it comes to combat. In a similar vein, Checkmate was an absolute beast in the ring when he fought Mantarou, but while Yamcha at least got a couple more victories after joining the group in Dragon Ball, Checkmate has pretty much been nothing but a cheerleader since he became good. It wasn't until the Tag Arc that we got to see him fight again, and what does he do? Kicks Neptuneman a few times and gets his butt handed to him in seconds. I'm really hoping that if they make a third one, they finally justify adding him to the team. Seriously, Barrierfreeman has done more than him, and Yudetemago seem to have completely forgotten that Nils is a part of him.
The only problems I have with Nisei are 2. 1)The DMP Arc wasn't executed to its fullest potential.Instead of having the students of Hercules Factory fighting The DMP students we only get to see 4 fights and Manta winning 3/4 of them.Plus,Shimau and Kirinman were very disappointing and the way they got killed was bullshit.They are the leaders of The DMP,do something with them.Also,only 10 students graduated from The Hercules Factory!?WTF!?That's idiotic!The DMP have more than 30 members each faction and earth has only 10 defenders!?I don't buy it!I would make The Hercules Factory students raiding The DMP base so we could have plenty of fights instead of only 4. 2)The side characters didn't do anything much important which was Nisei's one major flaw.As I said in my previous argument,The DMP Arc was a good chance to give the spotlight to more characters but nope.Let's suck the dicks of Manta and Kevin only I EVERY!SINGLE!ARC!That's why I love The Demon Seed Arc.We don't see only Mantaro and Kevin but we see other characters getting some wins.Let's face it,if the side characters had the same spotlight as the main character I guarantee you Nisei wouldn't be hated as much. I love Nisei as much as the original Kinnikuman.I believe it doesn't deserve the hate it gets but it deserves its criticisms.
I'm one of the few Kinnikuman fans who enjoys both gens equally, but if I were to name my biggest gripe with Nisei, it's that I felt like they put too much focus on Mantarou and not enough on his friends. It's great to hear that the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc gave them more appreciation (Especially Seiuchin who became a total bada**), but since Viz doesn't care about Nisei anymore, we might never see that since the people translating the series have only translated one chapter of this arc, ONE CHAPTER. Oh, and before you say more might be coming soon, keep in mind this single chapter was uploaded in 2009. Yeah.
Now that I’m much older than when I first watched it, I’m DYING for more 😭 I’d pay good money for more episodes or a reboot of the series. God I miss this show. I just finished all 77 episodes. I love ultimate muscle
4:14- Suguru was a silly buffoon and a braggart at times, but still came across as a hard working and hardcore fighter who won through determination and going through hell just to beat his enemies. His sillier aspects are downplayed, especially in later sagas, when he develops into a stronger fighter. Mantaro is more cowardly even more than his dad, much lazier, sillier, a hopeless romantic and is more spoiled. What he does have however, is surprisingly more battle genius than his old man, especially in some of his fights that involved defeating enemies by using their own weaknesses against them rather than just out strengthening them.
FUCKING MANLY! I really want to watch and/or read Kinnikuman Nisei, the manga looks very good even with the dirty jokes x) Also Hustle Muscle is AWESOME! My first AMV was using Hustle Muscle and the result was awesome xD
4kids changed the names of some characters. Terry The Grand Kenyon is actually is just named Terry the Kid since his father is called Terry Man. Kid Muscle's real name is Kinniku Mantaro a pun on his dad's name Kinnikuman aka King Muscle.
@@samuraiforever9120 Out of all the name changes, that was the only one that legit pissed me off. It's bad enough changing some of the nationalities, but changing Geronimo's name just because he might or might not resemble a member of The Beatles is stupid.
I just finished watching the whole Ultimate Muscle: The Legacy of Kinnikuman in English Dub with 4kids. An from my stand point its still pretty decent with me. Like ....ok maybe some voices could've used a bit more improvement , but at least they got decent dialogue with the main characters , with some def and tone. And some of the other goofy voices were pretty enjoyable. Not the best but not that bad either.
I felt the actor for Kid Muscle was spot on perfect casting. My main gripes were the previous part 1 characters such as Kinnikuman (King Muscle) & the other parents who didn't really gave that experienced hero vibe & sounded more like old people.
A new Kinnikuman anime was announced 6 months ago and will made by Production I.G. and released in 2024. How does it feel to get your wish after eight years?
funny fact in the spanish (from spain) dub they actually keeped the original names (Terry the kid insead of grand Kenyon, Mantaro instead of kid muscle,etc)and meat actually have his kid voice.....but its still the dumb 4kids version.
I was so hyped with Kinnikuman Nisei when it was first released...and thought it will do damn good in US for the characters figures... But man I have never heard that dub...really kills the show...Jade is suppose to be the fangirl's idol..!
I thought Terry Kenyon and Robin Mask's voices were good, at least this 4kids dub wasn't like the One Piece 4kids dub. It's one of the few that weren't entirely censored.
Hey Escara had a good English voice. Hes Raphael in the Yugioh series! But if you hate the dubs...remember..it was 4Kids who made those weired choices of censorship, script, and voice direction. Also, at least we got Yager and Brocken Jr sounding German...although Arnold Schwarzenegger heavy.....
@@endamcnabola yeah I made the correction. However, he DID play Raphael in Yugioh, as well as Duke Devlin, and did Kevin & Demartino in Daria- so the Guy has superb acting chops!
I've thought about giving these series a go and you've convinced me too. Probably not going to do it soon, but I'll seen it sooner than I originally would have.
In comparison to the original focus on almost all the major characters getting development of some kind, while the 2nd part, Kinnikuman and later Kevin Mask get to steal all of the spotlight from the other Choujins who...let's face it faced the dilemma that DBZ side cast faced (slowly being edged out due to the escalating power of enemies). This is especially true based on the Nisei manga's end point in America, if you weren't a direct opponent of Mantaro and/or Kevin Mask, you weren't anything special compared to Kevin Mask and Mantaro to face the final enemies.
7:50- Suguru: Why are you resurrecting yourself via Meat? I thought I helped you defeat the Perfect Numbers. Akuma Shogun: Blame this arc's plot coming before the reveal of the reasoning of my previous actions in the new continuation that pretty much retcons everything about this.
5:29- While Kinnikuman essentially created the Shonen series, it is a product of the time and the art- while it could be great at times, was mostly simplistic. Over the course of Nisei, the art becomes phenomenal, changing the characters from cool but goofy badasses to larger-than-life legends regardless of how ridiculous the premise of their gimmick. It was such an improvement, it led to the revival series's creation because of how it sparked life into the series. Not to mention the exploration of characters' motivations to be much more complex and explore themes of good/evil, fate, etc.
It's a shame that the anime company couldn't reboot Kinnikuman series because that would be interesting of seeing the characters drawing developement from the same writers and creators from the second series of Kinnikuman Nisei or I would say Ultimate Muscle. Just like the other anime like Sailor moon 1991 and reboot of Sailor moon Crystal 2014.
Sorry but in grew up with the 4kids adaptations of a lot of anime, (faves being TMNT, One Piece, Kirby and Ultimate Muscle) so I will always have a soft spot for the campy goofiness. Awesome review overall but Yikes! Man that playboy fact... kinda glad I’m enjoying the 4Kids dub... 😅
I remember see this show back in 2010 on KIX Channel, at first I thought it was weird but after a while of watching each episodes I started to like the show very much. I even seen these episodes on youTube a while back too. So the question is if it's one of the most successful and popular anime then why haven't 'Ultimate Muscle' have been release into the complete series DVD, I know there only just two on Amazon and eBay but that didn't help at all because I want to have the whole episodes on the complete DVD. I do miss 4Kids I just wished they have released 'Ultimate Muscle' on to complete DVD collection before they're bankrupt and shutdown forever, then we won't have that much problem.
Some shows just don't get the same success outside of Japan. The Rose Of Versailles is one example where its popularity excels in Japan, France & Italy. Meanwhile over here the series came out remastered on DVD & streaming then it went out print & overall unknown to the anime community. But the series has now been rescued by Discotek Media who I hope will pick up Kinnikuman & Kinnikuman Nisei.
the good thing about ultimate muscle was that it got me into kinnikuman as a whole,right to today where i eagerly await each new chapter while the dub is cringy,i like eskara(scarface)voice,as it was menacing,villainous,but he also bought an anti hero slant to it,which thanks to the time period,was seen as still a good guy role in wrestling,so it didn't send immediate red flags of obvious villain until later on demon seed is its best arc,since many old characters get fleshed out more,get shown awesome moments and you become fans,like kinnikuman of old , plus the added bonus of ashuraman's great development and backstory
Agreed about Demon Seed being the best arc. I notice the members of Little Rubber Guys apparently dislike it for recycling ideas. I see it as a nice nostalgic throwback. (Plus after finding out there's actually an arc in the original series where the 7 devils take the place of the muscle league to face off against a new threat only makes it more fitting that Nisei would have an arc like this) The only thing that really bugs me about this arc is that while it's great to finally see characters other than Mantaro and Kevin get the spotlight again, I feel like this would have made for a great opportunity for Seiuchin, Terry and Checkmate to finally do something again. Up to that point, each of them had been given very little focus, with Checkmate having been mostly sidelined since he joined the group, so I felt like this was a missed opportunity for them to be of importance again. Though not only did The Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc make up for this to a considerable degree (Save for Checkmate who's still treated worse than Yamcha), but every side character who fought in this arc save for Hanzo became part of the main cast, so that kind of justifies it.
There's a few chapters in english that could be downloaded from this page. herculesfactory.tumblr.com/main_catalog If you click on certain characters in the Kinnikuman wiki you find some summaries to the newer stuff such as the Perfect Large Numbers.
Nice vid super underrated and under appreciated anime/manga had some really dumb moments here and there, but skipping past those and getting to the fights and epic moments it’s a pretty cool series!
I look forward to the dumb moments. 😆 The original Kinniukuman from the 80's was even more outrageous with characters like Planetman, Black Hole, Sneagator, Mr. VTR, etc. A lot of overpowered abilities & shenanigans in everything Kinnikuman even in the current stuff where the current villains are ChouijnGods.
Thanks for this review! What you said about this being unlicensed and needing an anime reboot is actually true... I really wish the same and I'm also a bit sad that most of the mangas of this is either not published or not translated in English. I really love Kinnukuman and Kinnikuman Nisei and some of it's other franchise or sequels but the availability is really hard... Btw, where'd ya get your Mangas for this, are they available in English?
Well, if I had to guess, I'd say he got the manga off Amazon considering that's the only place I found it. (Though volumes 1, 7 and 9 are sold for insane prices since they're out of print. I think at least one of those is currently up for over $1,000, which makes me feel really fortunate to have gotten it for over 100 when I found it) I even got so desperate to know what happens in the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc that I decided I wasn't going to wait for Viz media to change their minds and finally license it, so I just ordered all 28 volumes online and used the visuals to tell me what was going on since I can't read Japanese very well. (And hey, at least those are current enough to be available for a reasonable price. Heck, the first few volumes were worth less than 10 bucks when I ordered them) Seems like I might have made the right choice since Yudetemago said in an interview that thanks to Japan's stock market crash and America's lack of interest in Kinnikuman, he had no plans of bringing the series back to North American shores and Viz apparently doesn't care about the series anymore since it didn't make them much of a profit.
+CyberShinobiX While I agree his voice worked, it still bugs me because 4kids pretty much changed his age to justify it. In the original series, Meat is supposed to be ten. I guess 4kids has an issue with kids being in charge (They did the same thing to Waddle Doo in the Kirby anime), so they changed his age to 35.
Mike Pollock Wait, I just noticed your username... are you THE Mike Pollock? The one who actually voiced Meat? And arguably the best voice actor Eggman's ever had? Because that would be pretty awesome.
Some websites only have a few chapters available such as Kissmanga, Mangapark, Batoto. However, I actually had to buy the manga to read the whole thing via Amazon & Rightstuf. The problem is the manga by Viz Media is out of print and some vols are ridiculously expensive. I would recommend buying Vols 21-29 since the anime never got that far.
Not really. There's a few subbed episodes on Kissanime or 9anime but these subs were likely done in the 2000's & the footage isn't the highest quality.
+UltimateSSJ The tag arc takes place after the events of Kinnikuman Nisei. (after Demon Seed Arc). The arc centers on time traveling chojin where the Nisei cast is sent to the 1980's specifically right after Neptuneman & Big the Budo were defeated in the Dream Tag arc. Basically another tag tournament is being held the villains are the time travelers Thunder, Lightning & Neptune Man from the future. The new generation are also battling the original Kinnikuman Justice Chojin in their prime. A few chapters have been translated but require downloading. josukeban.tumblr.com/tagged/ultimate-tag-scanlations
I was planning to Buy the manga with Jojonium SC, but The first Volume 1 is expensive compare to Second vol which is 6.99$ and i hate reading in website
The only pics I ever found were unmasking of Kinnikuman & Robin Mask. Kinnikuman VOL 36 i.imgur.com/8HiwXcD.gif Fan depiction from using different panels. up.gc-img.net/post_img/2016/02/jiLqc2mBvMkxLIC_klT3X_141.png In the manga Robin Mask looks exactly like his Barracuda disguise. img00.deviantart.net/52a2/i/2011/108/2/d/robin_mask_and_alisa_2_by_xxharlot666xx-d3e9yo5.jpg Robin Mask Anime vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kinnikuman/images/9/98/Robin_Mask_Unmasked.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20071013020913
The best dub for this series was, hands down, the european spanish dub. Granted it was full of regionalisms, but that gave it a certain charm, a heart if you must. Much like the Latinamerican dub did with DB and DBZ.
MANLY AnimeHERO could you post the chapters of ultimate muscle online it would make it easier to find/ maxman I have the biggest problems with he's the grandson of snegator for the love of manly anime
@@MANLYAnimeHERO Damn, I feel like a fool. It seemed to be a good sub though. But it took me well over an hour to find a stream. Guess I'll read the manga lol. Cheers for the reply m8
@@MANLYAnimeHERO not for me a manly tear is something that doesn't show the character vulnerable just a little bit sad while the tears in kinnikuman shows there strength desperation and hope all at once while allowing us to see there best and worst together, sure there may be a manly tear but no by that definition its stops what makes the character(s) great and turns them into emotionless rocks example sonic archie mandate
Excellent review, I wasn't really a fan of Ultimate Muscle because of how cowardly Kid Muscle was, every fight was the same, he cries in the corner until his forehead starts glowing then he wins, rinse and repeat.
+legalam Yeah that's the main problem I had with Part 2 especially with the Olympics which Kid's story is the same as when he fought Scarface. Actually in the manga, Kid Muscle loses his fight with Kevin Mask which is the start of him getting mentally mature.
It could in the east. The manga is still being published, it wouldn't go over well with sensitive western publishers but normal people don't care which is why it has English fan translations
Whenever I make a character profile for Ashuraman then I'll talk about the demon seed arc in detail. I wouldn't hold my breath since I don't know when I'll do it.
I have 3 gripes with Nisei: The Darker tone, older characters doing things they otherwise wouldn't do in the original series and Mantaro's spotlight hogging. I feel Mantaro doesn't have the same level of affection for his friends as Suguru had for his.
Good ol' Ultimate Muscle. I remember starting my youtuber career by uploading the entire series on my old channel epserbaddazz2. Which is still up surprisingly lol.
i checked your channel and you only had 1 video (T.T)
You know, I feel like I gotta add to that point I made last year about Mantarou's friends pretty much getting the shaft: after having gotten all the way through the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc, I suddenly realized that I actually feel more sorry for Checkmate than I do Gazelleman. I mean, oh yeah, Gazelleman's treatment in the manga was terrible. They had all this character development planned for him only to forget he existed, and by the time they realized this, they figured they may as well treat him like a random extra. But Checkmate stuck with the group and has gotten worse treatment than Yamcha when it comes to combat. In a similar vein, Checkmate was an absolute beast in the ring when he fought Mantarou, but while Yamcha at least got a couple more victories after joining the group in Dragon Ball, Checkmate has pretty much been nothing but a cheerleader since he became good. It wasn't until the Tag Arc that we got to see him fight again, and what does he do? Kicks Neptuneman a few times and gets his butt handed to him in seconds. I'm really hoping that if they make a third one, they finally justify adding him to the team. Seriously, Barrierfreeman has done more than him, and Yudetemago seem to have completely forgotten that Nils is a part of him.
Ok, it's official. THIS ANIME/MANGA NEED TO BE REMADE AND KNOWN TO THE MAJORITY OF THE ANIME COMMUNITY!!!
Wish granted 👀
I've been begging hokutonogun for years to sub this anime.
The only problems I have with Nisei are 2.
1)The DMP Arc wasn't executed to its fullest potential.Instead of having the students of Hercules Factory fighting The DMP students we only get to see 4 fights and Manta winning 3/4 of them.Plus,Shimau and Kirinman were very disappointing and the way they got killed was bullshit.They are the leaders of The DMP,do something with them.Also,only 10 students graduated from The Hercules Factory!?WTF!?That's idiotic!The DMP have more than 30 members each faction and earth has only 10 defenders!?I don't buy it!I would make The Hercules Factory students raiding The DMP base so we could have plenty of fights instead of only 4.
2)The side characters didn't do anything much important which was Nisei's one major flaw.As I said in my previous argument,The DMP Arc was a good chance to give the spotlight to more characters but nope.Let's suck the dicks of Manta and Kevin only I EVERY!SINGLE!ARC!That's why I love The Demon Seed Arc.We don't see only Mantaro and Kevin but we see other characters getting some wins.Let's face it,if the side characters had the same spotlight as the main character I guarantee you Nisei wouldn't be hated as much.
I love Nisei as much as the original Kinnikuman.I believe it doesn't deserve the hate it gets but it deserves its criticisms.
I'm one of the few Kinnikuman fans who enjoys both gens equally, but if I were to name my biggest gripe with Nisei, it's that I felt like they put too much focus on Mantarou and not enough on his friends. It's great to hear that the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc gave them more appreciation (Especially Seiuchin who became a total bada**), but since Viz doesn't care about Nisei anymore, we might never see that since the people translating the series have only translated one chapter of this arc, ONE CHAPTER. Oh, and before you say more might be coming soon, keep in mind this single chapter was uploaded in 2009. Yeah.
Now that I’m much older than when I first watched it, I’m DYING for more 😭 I’d pay good money for more episodes or a reboot of the series. God I miss this show. I just finished all 77 episodes. I love ultimate muscle
wow nice
This and dbz😭😭😭
Thank you ! i keep telling people Buffaloman isn't Russian he's naturally Spanish
Where can you find this to watch!?
@@JackTheFenris gogo anime
4:14- Suguru was a silly buffoon and a braggart at times, but still came across as a hard working and hardcore fighter who won through determination and going through hell just to beat his enemies. His sillier aspects are downplayed, especially in later sagas, when he develops into a stronger fighter.
Mantaro is more cowardly even more than his dad, much lazier, sillier, a hopeless romantic and is more spoiled. What he does have however, is surprisingly more battle genius than his old man, especially in some of his fights that involved defeating enemies by using their own weaknesses against them rather than just out strengthening them.
FUCKING MANLY! I really want to watch and/or read Kinnikuman Nisei, the manga looks very good even with the dirty jokes x)
Also Hustle Muscle is AWESOME! My first AMV was using Hustle Muscle and the result was awesome xD
Wait...wasn't Gazelleman called Dik Dik Van Dik in a video game i have? I'm confused
4kids changed the names of some characters. Terry The Grand Kenyon is actually is just named Terry the Kid since his father is called Terry Man. Kid Muscle's real name is Kinniku Mantaro a pun on his dad's name Kinnikuman aka King Muscle.
I hated that they named Geronimo beetle bomb is now British instead of from the usa.
@@samuraiforever9120 Out of all the name changes, that was the only one that legit pissed me off. It's bad enough changing some of the nationalities, but changing Geronimo's name just because he might or might not resemble a member of The Beatles is stupid.
Recently discotek nabbed ultimate muscle recently... And a new anime project has been announced
The ultimate muscle anime needs to make a comeback!
This made me so nostalgic I loved this as a child now I’m 19
They should remake ultimate muscle now with the darker tone of the original manga.
Guts Hill Yep. HBO or Toonami can broadcast it.
All kinnikuman should be remake with all the violence of the manga
That will take a lot a lot editing that will take a lot to think censorship
I just finished watching the whole Ultimate Muscle: The Legacy of Kinnikuman in English Dub with 4kids. An from my stand point its still pretty decent with me. Like ....ok maybe some voices could've used a bit more improvement , but at least they got decent dialogue with the main characters , with some def and tone. And some of the other goofy voices were pretty enjoyable. Not the best but not that bad either.
I felt the actor for Kid Muscle was spot on perfect casting. My main gripes were the previous part 1 characters such as Kinnikuman (King Muscle) & the other parents who didn't really gave that experienced hero vibe & sounded more like old people.
Maybe it's time for us all to come together and revise ultimate Muscle 💪
A new Kinnikuman anime was announced 6 months ago and will made by Production I.G. and released in 2024. How does it feel to get your wish after eight years?
funny fact in the spanish (from spain) dub they actually keeped the original names (Terry the kid insead of grand Kenyon, Mantaro instead of kid muscle,etc)and meat actually have his kid voice.....but its still the dumb 4kids version.
I was so hyped with Kinnikuman Nisei when it was first released...and thought it will do damn good in US for the characters figures...
But man I have never heard that dub...really kills the show...Jade is suppose to be the fangirl's idol..!
Yeah I don't like the dub but I do like Mantaro's english voice.
I thought Terry Kenyon and Robin Mask's voices were good, at least this 4kids dub wasn't like the One Piece 4kids dub. It's one of the few that weren't entirely censored.
KinnikuDash Yeah, Sean Connery was great as Robin. Wait, what do you mean that wasn't Sean Connery?
Hey Escara had a good English voice. Hes Raphael in the Yugioh series!
But if you hate the dubs...remember..it was 4Kids who made those weired choices of censorship, script, and voice direction. Also, at least we got Yager and Brocken Jr sounding German...although Arnold Schwarzenegger heavy.....
No, Terry was voiced by the guy who played Raph. Escara/Mars was voiced by the same guy who plays Kid Muscle.
@@endamcnabola yeah I made the correction. However, he DID play Raphael in Yugioh, as well as Duke Devlin, and did Kevin & Demartino in Daria- so the Guy has superb acting chops!
so far only Scramble for the Throne is fully subbed.
Awesome review man, I really loved this show as a kid!
Same I’m so nostalgic
This lines up with the attitude era of wrestling, right?
Everything got darker and edgier than the lighter tone of the 80's and early 90's.
Wag Dawgwag I suppose so as the manga was made in 1997 but it also got very perverted.
MANLY AnimeHERO That's about the time the Attitude Era started, so it syncs up pretty well.
better get Ready for that Ruthless Aggression Era
and i know you don't want that PG ERA 😂😂😂
+SOZZYLAND by the way funny how kevin mask leaves the Dmp like Kevin Nash leaves Nwo
SOZZYLAND Anything is better than the Invasion.
Even little people dressed like leprecauns.
I've thought about giving these series a go and you've convinced me too. Probably not going to do it soon, but I'll seen it sooner than I originally would have.
In comparison to the original focus on almost all the major characters getting development of some kind, while the 2nd part, Kinnikuman and later Kevin Mask get to steal all of the spotlight from the other Choujins who...let's face it faced the dilemma that DBZ side cast faced (slowly being edged out due to the escalating power of enemies). This is especially true based on the Nisei manga's end point in America, if you weren't a direct opponent of Mantaro and/or Kevin Mask, you weren't anything special compared to Kevin Mask and Mantaro to face the final enemies.
my money's on Kevin mask his theme song is bad ass
7:50- Suguru: Why are you resurrecting yourself via Meat? I thought I helped you defeat the Perfect Numbers.
Akuma Shogun: Blame this arc's plot coming before the reveal of the reasoning of my previous actions in the new continuation that pretty much retcons everything about this.
5:29- While Kinnikuman essentially created the Shonen series, it is a product of the time and the art- while it could be great at times, was mostly simplistic. Over the course of Nisei, the art becomes phenomenal, changing the characters from cool but goofy badasses to larger-than-life legends regardless of how ridiculous the premise of their gimmick. It was such an improvement, it led to the revival series's creation because of how it sparked life into the series.
Not to mention the exploration of characters' motivations to be much more complex and explore themes of good/evil, fate, etc.
It's a shame that the anime company couldn't reboot Kinnikuman series because that would be interesting of seeing the characters drawing developement from the same writers and creators from the second series of Kinnikuman Nisei or I would say Ultimate Muscle. Just like the other anime like Sailor moon 1991 and reboot of Sailor moon Crystal 2014.
The English dub was insanely hilarious!
Marc Thompson as Kid Muscle was my favorite thing of the dub.
this series got me interested in Kinnikuman, I watched your other review of it, Thank You
You're welcome! It's still being published today with new chapters.
Meat technically would be a Adult by the time he wakes up to train Mantaro. He would still just keep his child like looks.
He would be a midget
I think I like the goofy voices in UM because the series is so already weird that I don't mind it😆
Kid Muscle in adult female magazines? PERFECT COMBINATION ALRIGHT 😍🥰❤!!!!!
I recommend you the spaniard dub. Is really close to the original names since Spain got the original Kinnikuman in the 80s.
Sorry but in grew up with the 4kids adaptations of a lot of anime, (faves being TMNT, One Piece, Kirby and Ultimate Muscle)
so I will always have a soft spot for the campy goofiness. Awesome review overall but Yikes! Man that playboy fact... kinda glad I’m enjoying the 4Kids dub... 😅
Wait... 4kids edited the text "demon making plant" off their shirts?!
I remember see this show back in 2010 on KIX Channel, at first I thought it was weird but after a while of watching each episodes I started to like the show very much. I even seen these episodes on youTube a while back too. So the question is if it's one of the most successful and popular anime then why haven't 'Ultimate Muscle' have been release into the complete series DVD, I know there only just two on Amazon and eBay but that didn't help at all because I want to have the whole episodes on the complete DVD. I do miss 4Kids I just wished they have released 'Ultimate Muscle' on to complete DVD collection before they're bankrupt and shutdown forever, then we won't have that much problem.
Some shows just don't get the same success outside of Japan. The Rose Of Versailles is one example where its popularity excels in Japan, France & Italy. Meanwhile over here the series came out remastered on DVD & streaming then it went out print & overall unknown to the anime community. But the series has now been rescued by Discotek Media who I hope will pick up Kinnikuman & Kinnikuman Nisei.
the good thing about ultimate muscle was that it got me into kinnikuman as a whole,right to today where i eagerly await each new chapter
while the dub is cringy,i like eskara(scarface)voice,as it was menacing,villainous,but he also bought an anti hero slant to it,which thanks to the time period,was seen as still a good guy role in wrestling,so it didn't send immediate red flags of obvious villain until later on
demon seed is its best arc,since many old characters get fleshed out more,get shown awesome moments and you become fans,like kinnikuman of old , plus the added bonus of ashuraman's great development and backstory
Agreed about Demon Seed being the best arc. I notice the members of Little Rubber Guys apparently dislike it for recycling ideas. I see it as a nice nostalgic throwback. (Plus after finding out there's actually an arc in the original series where the 7 devils take the place of the muscle league to face off against a new threat only makes it more fitting that Nisei would have an arc like this) The only thing that really bugs me about this arc is that while it's great to finally see characters other than Mantaro and Kevin get the spotlight again, I feel like this would have made for a great opportunity for Seiuchin, Terry and Checkmate to finally do something again. Up to that point, each of them had been given very little focus, with Checkmate having been mostly sidelined since he joined the group, so I felt like this was a missed opportunity for them to be of importance again. Though not only did The Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc make up for this to a considerable degree (Save for Checkmate who's still treated worse than Yamcha), but every side character who fought in this arc save for Hanzo became part of the main cast, so that kind of justifies it.
Hey man just finished 1 to 29! absolutely incredible! As of today, are there any translations for nisei 2 and/or plot summaries? Please let me know!
There's a few chapters in english that could be downloaded from this page.
herculesfactory.tumblr.com/main_catalog
If you click on certain characters in the Kinnikuman wiki you find some summaries to the newer stuff such as the Perfect Large Numbers.
I have some info in these other character videos.
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Fan of martial art anime has this got good fights & a bit of blood like Ball Z ?
As usual another great video. All the manly love for Kinnikuman!
5 years, man
It doesn't feel like it
I still need to finish that Favorite Kinnikuman Characters list. I've been distracted by other things that I have nothing ready for Kinnikuman day.
this anime is so underrated
Nice vid super underrated and under appreciated anime/manga had some really dumb moments here and there, but skipping past those and getting to the fights and epic moments it’s a pretty cool series!
I look forward to the dumb moments. 😆 The original Kinniukuman from the 80's was even more outrageous with characters like Planetman, Black Hole, Sneagator, Mr. VTR, etc. A lot of overpowered abilities & shenanigans in everything Kinnikuman even in the current stuff where the current villains are ChouijnGods.
Thanks for this review! What you said about this being unlicensed and needing an anime reboot is actually true... I really wish the same and I'm also a bit sad that most of the mangas of this is either not published or not translated in English. I really love Kinnukuman and Kinnikuman Nisei and some of it's other franchise or sequels but the availability is really hard... Btw, where'd ya get your Mangas for this, are they available in English?
Subcribed as well cuz I'm really hoping, wishing and waiting for any updates about Kinnikuman in the future or RIGHT NOW lol. Thanks again!
Well, if I had to guess, I'd say he got the manga off Amazon considering that's the only place I found it. (Though volumes 1, 7 and 9 are sold for insane prices since they're out of print. I think at least one of those is currently up for over $1,000, which makes me feel really fortunate to have gotten it for over 100 when I found it) I even got so desperate to know what happens in the Ultimate Choujin Tag Arc that I decided I wasn't going to wait for Viz media to change their minds and finally license it, so I just ordered all 28 volumes online and used the visuals to tell me what was going on since I can't read Japanese very well. (And hey, at least those are current enough to be available for a reasonable price. Heck, the first few volumes were worth less than 10 bucks when I ordered them) Seems like I might have made the right choice since Yudetemago said in an interview that thanks to Japan's stock market crash and America's lack of interest in Kinnikuman, he had no plans of bringing the series back to North American shores and Viz apparently doesn't care about the series anymore since it didn't make them much of a profit.
do you know were can i read all the kinnikuman nissei manga ? i cant find it complete
+AGUSDANTELOQUENDO Nope, I don't know. I had to buy the english volumes to finish the story.
MANLY AnimeHERO
ok thanks you 4 answer bro :D
i'd chalk meat's voice up to a really bad cold. assuming cryogenic freezing.
I'd chalk it up to 4Kids finding the voice they wanted.
+hansolo twotwosix it wasnt awful, it gave me the vibe that meat was just a lot more mature mentally then physically
+CyberShinobiX While I agree his voice worked, it still bugs me because 4kids pretty much changed his age to justify it. In the original series, Meat is supposed to be ten. I guess 4kids has an issue with kids being in charge (They did the same thing to Waddle Doo in the Kirby anime), so they changed his age to 35.
slashermaster28 If they wanted Meat to sound 10, I wouldn't have booked it.
Mike Pollock Wait, I just noticed your username... are you THE Mike Pollock? The one who actually voiced Meat? And arguably the best voice actor Eggman's ever had? Because that would be pretty awesome.
5:05 he became the 4kids announced for a second
Weekly playboy 😅😅😅 didn't see that coming
Neither did I!
Where can I find the manga of ultimate muscle?
Some websites only have a few chapters available such as Kissmanga, Mangapark, Batoto. However, I actually had to buy the manga to read the whole thing via Amazon & Rightstuf. The problem is the manga by Viz Media is out of print and some vols are ridiculously expensive. I would recommend buying Vols 21-29 since the anime never got that far.
Hey thanks for the great info!
do you know where i can watch the japanese version of kinnikuman nisei WITH english subs ??
Not really. There's a few subbed episodes on Kissanime or 9anime but these subs were likely done in the 2000's & the footage isn't the highest quality.
i cant think of anything cooler than having a wrestling match on the heart of Satan
Gives a whole new meaning to heart attack.
I'm not 100% on this, but did 4kids dub the anime of this? (because if so that would explain a lot)
Yes they did back during their Fox Box days.
MANLY AnimeHERO I always remembered UM through toonami, I never knew Kinnnikuman was actual, it really blows you away
Well discotek did The dub so hopefully 🤞🏾 we get the full Japanese version of Kinnikuman and a redub
Where can I watch the manga?
Sites like Mangapark or Kissmanga.
When does kinnikuman nisei part 2 tag arc take place. Mainly because of how Kinnikumans apperance changed from part 1 of nisei to part 2.
+UltimateSSJ The tag arc takes place after the events of Kinnikuman Nisei. (after Demon Seed Arc). The arc centers on time traveling chojin where the Nisei cast is sent to the 1980's specifically right after Neptuneman & Big the Budo were defeated in the Dream Tag arc. Basically another tag tournament is being held the villains are the time travelers Thunder, Lightning & Neptune Man from the future. The new generation are also battling the original Kinnikuman Justice Chojin in their prime. A few chapters have been translated but require downloading.
josukeban.tumblr.com/tagged/ultimate-tag-scanlations
+MANLY AnimeHERO thank you!
Suguru: Why ain't I in the J-Stars?! I practically made Shonen Jump's formula.
Meat: You aren't pretty enough.
Suguru: Even now I get no respect.
Will there be a next to ultimate muscle I really hope so 😭
I was planning to Buy the manga with Jojonium SC, but The first Volume 1 is expensive compare to Second vol which is 6.99$
and i hate reading in website
I know this is a few years late, but would you consider scanning and putting the Ultimate Muscle Volumes you own online?
Nope, because that would be illegal. Granted there's a lot of "free" anime & manga but I'm not taking that chance.
@@MANLYAnimeHERO ok
I don't know, I prefer the adult meat
I guess 4kids were going for a Mickey from Rocky in that Meat trainer role for Kid Muscle.
Great review man! 😁
Is there a picture of all the muscle family unmasked or at least kid muscle unmasked?
The only pics I ever found were unmasking of Kinnikuman & Robin Mask.
Kinnikuman VOL 36 i.imgur.com/8HiwXcD.gif
Fan depiction from using different panels.
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In the manga Robin Mask looks exactly like his Barracuda disguise.
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Robin Mask Anime
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MANLY AnimeHERO Thank You M.A.H.
Now i want to read it even more
The best dub for this series was, hands down, the european spanish dub. Granted it was full of regionalisms, but that gave it a certain charm, a heart if you must. Much like the Latinamerican dub did with DB and DBZ.
This video is also nostalgic too
Yeah it's been many years since I made this. Back when I had more dedication.
where a website with the chapters for kinnikuman nisei
Kissmanga & Batoto have some of the chapters. I bought what I could find on Amazon & rightstuf.
Dmp is NWO that's dope that The Respect American Wrestling like i Do.
So Playboy picked it up at chapter 16?
Nope, it'sbeen in the Weekly Playboy since Vol 1. Vol 16 is where the really "crappy" fight happens.
How many issues of ultimate muscle are there?
29 volumes.
@@MANLYAnimeHERO k thx
MANLY AnimeHERO could you post the chapters of ultimate muscle online it would make it easier to find/ maxman I have the biggest problems with he's the grandson of snegator for the love of manly anime
Sorry, but I don't want to get in trouble.
@@MANLYAnimeHERO it's ok there are free manga sites for kinnikuman but not ultimate but what's your opinion on maxman
HEY JUSTIN COOK!!
Best wrestling anime.
I actually bought volume 21 at hpb.
Jades english dub was just too overpowered with steroids lol
I still feel like the writers should have gave the main roll to kevin mask in the kinnikuman sequel instead of kid muscle
Ah child hood
Does this mean that the subtitled version I've been watching is only a fansub? Ewwww
Must be. The only fansubs I found were of very poor quality & was likely done the mid 2000's.
@@MANLYAnimeHERO Damn, I feel like a fool. It seemed to be a good sub though. But it took me well over an hour to find a stream. Guess I'll read the manga lol. Cheers for the reply m8
meh all the good writing means nothing if the series never catches on and eventually cancelled...the kinnikuman reboot is definitely the way to go now
5:40, MANLY POOING!!!
And even a fucking banana
you say manly tears I say tears that shows the characters emotions
That's what manly tears means.
@@MANLYAnimeHERO not for me a manly tear is something that doesn't show the character vulnerable just a little bit sad while the tears in kinnikuman shows there strength desperation and hope all at once while allowing us to see there best and worst together, sure there may be a manly tear but no by that definition its stops what makes the character(s) great and turns them into emotionless rocks example sonic archie mandate
Excellent review, I wasn't really a fan of Ultimate Muscle because of how cowardly Kid Muscle was, every fight was the same, he cries in the corner until his forehead starts glowing then he wins, rinse and repeat.
+legalam Yeah that's the main problem I had with Part 2 especially with the Olympics which Kid's story is the same as when he fought Scarface. Actually in the manga, Kid Muscle loses his fight with Kevin Mask which is the start of him getting mentally mature.
chinese dub is good/cantonese
Am i the only one who think kinnikumans racial parodies/jokes with the wrestlers wouldnt survive these days cause of cancep culture
It could in the east. The manga is still being published, it wouldn't go over well with sensitive western publishers but normal people don't care which is why it has English fan translations
I be honest I actually like meat’s English dub voice
BARRIER FREEMAN
8 years later... we will have a new anime.
Where can i find the nisei manga... the complete series?
I didn't have any luck online so I bought what i could find on Amazon & rightstuf.
MANLY AnimeHERO and now strat my travel in amazon , thanks !!
MANLY AnimeHERO can you review the demon seed arc
Whenever I make a character profile for Ashuraman then I'll talk about the demon seed arc in detail. I wouldn't hold my breath since I don't know when I'll do it.