Every Miniature Model in the Star Wars Prequels
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- The Star Wars Prequels are jam-packed with model work; even more than the original trilogy!
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This is why I role my eyes when people said that the Sequels "brought back" practical effects in Star Wars. They never left, you just didn't see them.
True, and I think The Sequels used far more CGI than The Prequels
@@Deuteromis They did. There were things done digitally that the Prequels did practically. There wasn't a single miniature set used in any of the Disney movies. I'm certain there were more practical effects in one or two episodes of _The Mandalorian_ than in all five Disney movies put together.
@@Deuteromis Easily. Granted the CGI looks much better these days. But if you are kind of trained to know where to look or are just familiar with common CGI software, like Houdini then it gets easier to notice.
Truth
I think the problem's not with the CGI or practical. Its the less creative, non-visionary director, bad editing and the lack of good storytelling.
It is sad that these people worked so, so hard to create these absolutely incredible sets and miniatures, but the bandwagon effect swept audiences up in the assumption that every single thing in the film except for the actors was 100% CGI, and all that hard work was assumed to basically be fake. It is good to see them get the recognition they deserve. This idea that Lucas only cared about CGI really needs to go.
Dantius It really is and even when the Prequel Haters/OT Purists are shown that they were wrong about the PT being nothing but cgi, they still in denial, trying to make them look bad and take the fun out of the expanded lore of SW, still claiming that it looks fake and that it was still overshadowed by CGI even when the evidence shows in their faces that it's not even remotely truth. It makes me sad, but in awhile it also makes me laugh. The Prequels are brilliant and no amount of hate/denial is going to wipe them from existence.
Squire Simpson
That's true, sadly. People still like to say it looks fake, and they try to justify it by pointing out the actual CGI layered over the sets, ignoring the fact that it still looks pretty good, with a few exceptions. They also have problems with the actors having to work in so many bluescreen sets, ignoring that the final product still looks amazing. The problem they have is that there is CGI, not that the CGI looks bad.
Dantius And yet they don't even bother to point the finger at the Originals doing the same dang thing with the actors involved in blue screen because of nostalgia and their childhood. It's a very hypocritical move on their part in terms of practical effects and that goes for TFA as well in terms of cgi because they u plenty of it. I hate having to bite the Originals, but the hypocrisy has got to stop. The Originals blue screen=PE
TFA Screen=PE
CGI Screen=CGI
So when George Lucas does it, it is wrong? They can never really backup prove that the use of CGI is a legitimate sin in SW filmmaking without speak out of their bias butts and act out of repulse and emotion and their narrow-minded ego.
Thank you for sharing the love for the prequels. Far from perfect they were beautifully made and told stories. I am grateful to have lived in an era when they were made.
I remember the dark times before the originals when at least on the big screen fantastic stories were forgotten. Star Wars re-woke the joy of the true space opera. And the prequels told them even better.
Thank you for being fellow travelers enjoying great stories told well!
The annoying thing is that the sequels have a TON more CGI than the prequels yet no one cares
One of my favorite effects in any movie ever is the waterfalls on Naboo in A Phantom Menace. They couldn't get the falls to look right at a distance, until finally someone decided to not use water. So all the waterfalls in episode one on Naboo are actually salt being pour on a black backdrop and then added in. They look so perfect and are an amazing practical effect.
That's really awesome!
I love the water
GeeZeRFroG I never knew that. Yeah, that effect always looked incredibly good. Even in Battlefront 1 (2004) they showed the same waterfall in Naboo: Plains, and it always looks gorgeous.
Kinda reminds me of the Shrek grass problem
I had no idea there was so much miniature work in the prequels! I guess I assumed it was almost all CGI. It's certainly given me a new found respect, although I don't think there's anything wrong with the art direction in the prequel trilogy.
I meant that I liked the designs and overall look of the films. Sure, they definitely went OTT with the CGI. You can argue the technology wasn't used well by Lucas and the effects may have dated badly but I think it's a little bit unfair to judge the quality of special effects by the standards of what's available today. I don't know if you were playing video games back in 2002, but they definitely didn't look as advanced as the CGI in Attack of the Clones.
In any case, you can go back to the original films and see some pretty ropy looking props, settings and fx (by modern standards). In the garbage masher scene for example, the Empire seems to use a lot of polystyrene as a construction material. Maybe that's why their TIEs are so easy to shoot down?
I thought exactly the same. I suppose what's wrong with the art direction is: the director spent all his time on that, and little time on developing the story or working with the actors.
psammiad Obi wan and Palpatine were great tho
im somewhat shure that the new triology has more CGI than models.
Yep, RotS had more practical affects in that one film than the entire OT trilogy combined. That should tell you just how insane it was.
At 3:11 that's none other than Adam Savage working on the miniature environment.
With Tori Bellaci with him ;)
yes that him the only yedi on earth. he once said: duct tape is like the force: it has a light side and a dark side and it holds everything together.
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Good on you for raising awareness of this. Not enough fans know about it.
This honestly makes me dig the prequels much, much more than I did before. How cool would it be to see those miniatures in a traveling exhibit!? Huge props to the craftspeople involved, and thanks for the great video.
Huge 'props' indeed.
Heyooo
we need star wars museum
Hopefully the George Lucas Museum of Narrative Art will include a Star Wars gallery, but maybe not due to licensing to Disney? Either way, I concur it must be done.
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I saw several of them a few years ago, including the HUGE eight foot AAT tank and Sebulba's podracer from Episode I, and they were insanely impressive. Like, I had no idea Darth Vader's helmet from Revenge of the Sith was actually built. They even had red lights in the lenses so that the displays they would composite later would cast light on the inner surface. That thing was incredibly detailed. Surprisingly few things were fake in the Star Wars prequels.
I love showing Prequel Bashers videos like this when they bring up the CGI overuse myth.
Their responses are hilarious to just plain sad.
Yeah I saw a Chris Stuckmann video on Episode 1 were he was talking about how the ships in the original looked better because they were models and he compared it to a ship in episode 1 which was also a practical model.
Usually most of the time it's the opposite way around, people thinking the film used no CGI, and not giving any credit to the cgi artists, but for the prequels no one is giving any credit to the practical artists
Good lord, this is some amazing stuff.
I'm actually honestly impressed. I'm not a prequel fan at all... But I'm impressed that they took the time to make miniature models as practical effects. I would consider it an honor just to have a foot section of some of these scenes. I hope that some of these sections are saved somewhere. Some of them could have even have been used to make a museum
Oh my God. I knew the Phantom Menace had a lot. And I knew that Mustafar was real because the viscosity of the lava could only be achieved at the time through real resins and liquids. But I had no idea this many models were used throughout all three films. Why did they never make this clear in the behind the scenes materials? They should have emphasized this like the Weta guys did for Lord of the Rings. Fans would have respected the productions far more of they knew models were still a big part of the process. Cause I swore the two latter prequels were a big reason why models stopped being used.
Because quote 'pratical' effects were old news at the time and computer generated effects (something EVERY film uses this day to the point that you can't tell it was made with computers in the first place) were the new thing that Lucas and his company took pride in extolling the virtues of, similar to how the company would go into detail about the sheer extensive effects they used back in the OT days when they pushed the special effects envelope back then.
Personally speaking, I find this worship of models and effects to be pretty damn backwards from an 'evolve the medium' perspective.
I never got the impression they didn't use models when I saw the behind the scenes stuff in the bonus discs. Like, even Revenge of the Sith had a whole segment dedicated to the ginormous tree they built for Kashyyyk.
I think one reason people assumed everything was CGI is that a lot of times there are so many elements being laid on top of the miniatures - real actors, digital actors, cgi ships, cgi environmental lighting, explosions, lasers etc etc, until the image is so complex looking that the average viewer's eyes just tell them "that is fake". Amazing work on display here though, thanks for taking the time to draw attention to it!
"This is fake" never understood this argument. it's a movie. Everything in it is fake. It's just that we have different methods of faking it. Digital Effects aren't "easier", they aren't "cheating", they aren't "cheap". They take a great amount of skill and talent to pull off. Technology is always improving, some effects are going to be dated, both practical and CGI. I always roll my eyes when someone insists that all the effects in the PT are absolutely amazing. No. Yoda looks shitty. Greedo looks shitty. Vader is very clearly wearing an uncomfortable plastic suit. But it's okay! They are old movies!
Wow, I am impressed! There were lots of scenes I thought were much more CGI than they actually were! Prequel Haters and Bashers, please take note.
Absolutely breathtaking! I knew about many of these, but there are still an incredible amount of models in this video that I could have sworn were CGI. Thank you so much for this!
I honest to god thought most of these looked like obvious CGI...but they were miniatures...wow
Great video!
I think it was the combination of parts of the scenes being CGI and the fact that you can tell that the actors weren't actually on a life size set that I and many others thought that it was all CGI.
That’s the problem, when I watched the Imperial attack on Hoth in TESB for the first time I would’ve swarm the AT-AT’s were touched up with CGI in the special editions, of course that would be wrong, practical and CGI are hard to tell apart sometimes
@@madam1331 Which scenes are you referring to specifically? Sure I think there’s a few scenes here and there where it’s clear they’re in front of a green screen. I don’t think it’s that frequent throughout the films though.
@@skywalkerorder2170 I'm generally referring to any sets that had still required blue screen in some parts to help expand the scene we were looking at or where the set was real but the foreground objects that were the focus (like a ship landing) were CGI. I feel that Episode 2 is a good example as I didn't know that there were so many practical sets used in that film. I thought everything was CGI. Again I think a lot of it is attributed to how much CGI was used in the foreground or the main focus of what were watching (ie aliens or ships) that probably made us think it was all CG.
They essentially did a lot of compositing the miniature shots with the actors on the blue screen
Did you know that Felucia was also a miniature set.
This video is very fascinating. I already knew the prequels had miniatures but I didn't know it had this many. This is one of the reasons I love the prequels. For the time the special effects were incredible. I consider it a good thing that I can't tell what's CG and what isn't.
Yeah, I totally missed the model work. I wish i had picked up on it, so thanks for highlighting it for us!
Thank you for doing this. It's soooooooo nice to see the prequels get some love
You have just massively raised my opinion of the of the prequel trilogy.
It still blows me away that not a single clone trooper was an actor in costume. There are shots in _Attack of the Clones_ and _Revenge of the Sith_ that, if I didn't know better, I would swear were done the old fashioned way.
The clones in the prequels look better than the clones in the live action series disney made
as someone who has dedicated a whole heap of hours to meticulously recreating star wars ships and vehicles in Lego form, I very much approve this message :D
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It's pretty incredible. I never so many miniatures were created for these films. Those little sets take some real talent to create. It seems like they filmed the miniatures and then filmed the actors on the green/blue screens and superimposed their performance onto the miniatures. Perhaps that is why many scenes feel like they are laking gravity, though. Because they weren't filmed on actual sets.
3:11
Adam Savage
You're welcome.
With Tori Belleci right behind him! And Grant Imahara is at 4:14.
That's awesome. more star wars treasures like this please
Perfectly summarised!!
I knew, there was much effort put into props of Episodes I-III, though I had no idea there were so many - like seen in this video. I remember, that the waterfalls on Naboo were made via some salt pouring or so.
You deserve so many more subs than what you have man. Keep up the good work.
I actually like the clones being entirely digital - it makes them a direct mirror to the droid armies they fight, and also reinforces the idea that they're all identical copies of each other.
Getting actual military personnel to do motion capture for III was definitely a good idea though, they look a little bumbling in II.
Thank you! I really didn't realise how much model work went into the backgrounds. Imagine if they were allowed to do full sets and full model special effects?
They did make full sets with only bluescreen for the windows
Nicely done!
Mind boggling! I had no idea! So now I assume that most of these scenes are shot with near-macro lenses lol!
holy shit. thank you so much for this. i always liked the prequels but still thought they looked weird at times with all the actors put in the scenes with greenscreen. most of the time it was pretty obvious and made the set look fake, but knowing those are handcrafted miniatures makes me apreciate those movies much more. thats just how special effects work and the miniatures were not necessary. maybe next time i watch the prequels kamino wont look like a bunch of cgi to me. thank you man. i didnt know this stuff.
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
I just can't fathom what you're trying to say here. If you didn't like what you saw on screen, why would it change your opinion to know what particular filmmaking technique was used to achieve whatever you saw? And if you can appreciate the dedication and expertise that went into creating and shooting physical models, why can't you appreciate the dedication and expertise that goes into creating 3D rendered models and characters?
I dont care what people Are saying I love the prequels. They Are absolutely amazing
Wow, I never new that Episodes 2 and 3 used miniatures.
Wow...... I always thought almost ALL of that stuff was CGI.... Wow.... That is just amazing....
This was an excellent video. The Phantom Menace was chocked full of amazing miniatures and sets. It was clear George wanted to amaze us all with new worlds for the prequels. The shots were much less static than the OT movies. It was still SW but it was all so different too. But hey that's George Lucas, king of the establishing shot, and effects. I'm happy to see people are starting to appreciate the prequels more They were amazing.
Dang, I had no idea about Utapau or a lot of the locales in Attack of the Clones.
The prequels were beautiful stories told well by masters of their craft. Thank you for making this retrospect of the practical effects.
Wow! I just wish that the clones were people too.
Robert Underlee well it's hard to get a ton of people who are exactly the same size and build
we might one day get a film or tv show with live action clones
Unless you find 100 twins I doubt that to ever be possible xd
They were. But it was the armor that was never built. The Clone Trooper armor was CG instead of physical suits. I wish that they’d made a couple of physical suits for the troops that had their helmets off.
I think they should have made a real suit and then have the Jango Fett actor in it and then they could use the technique that they did in Back to the Future 2 and 3 were they combined two takes of the same actor in different costumes.
WOW thanks you for share this with us
It's always been a little known fact that despite all the bitching the Prequels had more miniatures than the original trilogy
miniatures don't equal ENTIRE practical effects though. The Originals are still more practical
Michael McGrath you can tell in many of the shots that look heavily dated
no. its in their raw format
Michael McGrath nope
@@MichaelM28 No dude, shit I remember you, and still you get so much so wrong
It’s amazing that lucas had evolved practical effects back then to the point where people couldn’t tell they were practical anymore and just assumed it had to be this new cgi thing. Like what an achievement.
Though it’s a preferred aesthetic for many, having practical effects in your film that are very clearly practical effects kind of means they’re bad effects if you think about it. It should follow the same rule as cgi where you can tell it is done well when you can’t tell it is there at all.
I disagree there’s a lot of things in films where people probably wouldn’t know the difference between a practical effect and an CGI one.
Anyone else notice a pre-MythBusters Adam Savage working on the Kamino miniature at 3:11?
Ironic considering this video is myth busting in a of it’s self
I hate how people dislike the prequels the most that used a lot more practical effects than the original trilogy, sequel trilogy, Rogue One and Solo: A Star Wars Story combined. And how they also used a lot less CGI than at least the Sequel Trilogy and the two standalones combined too, yet people like them more. The prequels are without a doubt, underappreciated masterpieces. Don't get me wrong though, the original trilogy still has the best story line. And the CGI in Rogue One And Solo is good enough. But even while there was still quite a lot of CGI used in the prequels, you can't really blame them using it when it was coming into great fashion at the time. So in that case, everyone should be grateful for the large amount of practical effects they used at the time the prequels were made, since practical effects were fading out of the age of film for being the center of film making.
Great production and compilation
There's so much imagination in the prequels. There is almost no imagination in The Force Awakens. Desert Planet, Forest Planet, Stormtroopers, Millenium Falcon... that's Star Wars, right? No, to me, Star Wars is wild and crazy out-there environments and characters that are so bizarre you can't film them "on-location" somewhere on Earth. It's like if Star Trek were 20,000 years further in the future and every planet and alien was discovered so there was such an insane amount of diversity everywhere you went because this was a civilization made up of an entire galaxy of intelligent species and tens of thousands of years of technology, you had no choice but to cram it with CG (and models apparently) and every wild thing the art department comes up with. It felt like magic, it was a spectacle that few movies have done since. That, in my opinion, is what George Lucas was going for in the prequels, and he nailed it. I would take that over the newer movies any day. It's just too bad the prequels had lackluster scripts and George clearly had no idea at some points how characters should talk...
Literally how I always fucking felt about the prequels. I do love the OT story wise, but that is literally the reason why I always preferred the Prequels. Not to mention how much Clone Wars expanded it.
My justification for the "Dialogue" is the fact that IT'S A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY! And these Humans are not Terrains as well as all the other 👽 races! Also certain races have different vocal cords or prefer communicating in their own languages. So I personality wouldn't expect any foreign civilization to communicate exactly the same as ours unless it was entirely translated! Overall I'd rather usually criticize bad subtitles or dub jobs bad translations than dialogue in sci fi stories that take place outside our world. 🌎
The most cool thing of these Models is Kashyyyk!
Jack Harpe 3rd Yeah, but a lot of the dialogue is just plain bad. Anakin and Padme’s entire romance is completely forced, and anytime Anakin reveals his feelings to her it just comes off as creepy and borderline psychopathic. I’ve always defended the prequels, but that is one element I’ll definitely concede. There’s definitely some dialogue which is indefensible...just like sand. Which is coarse, irritating, and gets everywhere.
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Those are amazing models.
Look! A young Adam Savage at 3:13
People see the pictures of actors in front of blue screens/green screens and assume everything was CGI, when in reality most of the CG was just compositing.
Honestly, even the CG that is there looks rather good for its time, especially in Episode 3. The only CG which looks bad imo or might have looked better as a practical effect is some of the aliens and creatures, but even that isn’t entirely true because CG Yoda looks far superior to puppet Yoda.
Very enlightening.
I wonder what happend to all those models. I so want some on my shelf
I think my main problem is the lack of full sized sets. For me, miniatures are amazing, but having a small part of a set built to scale with the actors would have (in my opinion) been able to fix some of the issues of constantly shooting actors on a greenscreen. No doubt for huge landscapes this is okay. But room sized environments, there's no reason not to make full sized sets.
There are a lot more full sized sets and set locations in the Prequels than you might think:
- The final battle scene between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Count Dooku aboard the Invisible Hand was a full size set. The only greenscreens were the windows.
- The hallway and reactor room during the Qui Gon/Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul fight was an entire set built from scratch.
- The Meeting Room in the Trade Federation Ship was a full set.
- The podrace hangar was a full set, complete with full sized podrace engines.
- Almost all the scenes in the Naboo Royal Palace are shot in real life locations in Italy.
- The Naboo streets are also full sized sets.
- Padme's apartment is a full sized set, including the little fountain it had.
- Chancellor Palpatine's office is a full size set, and all the decorations in there are practical.
- The interior of Dexter's Diner is a full sized restaurant set.
- The hovels in Mos Espa are based on real houses in Tunisia.
- Qui Gon's Funeral Pyre was a full set.
- The Lars Moisture Farm visited by Anakin was the exact same location in A New Hope (also in Tunisia). They practically had to rebuild the entire thing just like the originals.
I can go on and on, but my point is the Prequels used so much Practical and CGI effects, and not just 100% CGI.
Gotta love the hypocrisy of people. When people thought it was CGI it was all "fuck CGI, it looks fake as hell". As soon as they learn it's miniatures it's all "wow, that's amazing craftsmanship!". Fuck that. Since when is CGI not craftsmanship? It takes a buttload of work to become a good CGI artist, and people learn and learn for YEARS to become one. To totally disregard it like people like to do is honestly offensive.
Thanks for the video though, I'm glad it schools some people on their mindless hate for the prequels. Just goes to show how much of this is in their heads.
The issue in the end basically amounts to inconsistent lighting and poor compositing rather than everything genuinely looking "fake". I feel like that's the issue with cgi too, especially modern day cgi. Everything DOES look super detailed and real, it's just that it never quite matches up with the actors interacting with it.
This had me thinking tho. Just imagine if they could go back to all these massive miniature sets and ships and combine their usage with the 3d camera tracking technology and LED screen digital environments that they used in The Mandalorian. Not that The Mandalorian doesn't already look completely real but at that point NOBODY can act like Star Wars looks fake ever again.
Nice work!
No wonder Lucas sold everything. I Imagine him at home reading the reviews of the "specialized cinema press" saying LUCAS LOST IT, THIS IS NOT STAR WARS, ALL CGI
And then saying "Oh really? You are going to enjoy Star Wars now. Take this Disney!"
I definetly understand why people say Star Wars fans are the worst fans possible.
Jose P People weren't really criticizing any of the visual effects until years later.
James Rolfe: "But with the prequels you can tell it was all done in a computer."
* Curb Your Enthusiasm theme *
Technically it still used a computer to be finished. And some model shots (like Kamino) i dont think turned out well so they may have appeared to be bad cgi. When really they may have just been poorly shot or lit, using digital instead of film really seems to have hurt the visual look of Clones.
Geese-louese . . . I've heard effects people who worked on the movies talk about how much miniature work there was but . . . dam.
astounding work, i love it ..
Always been a prequel fan, since the beginning
Hey EC I just thought of a video id you could do. I would probably be a little harder since star wars doesn't always go into full detail on the matter. But hyperdrives and light speed like you did for star trek and warp speed. And then you could show us how they compare speed wise. Cause we are told in starwars that the millineum falcon made the kesol run in 12 parsecs and it would be cool to see that in real time.
As cool and eye opening to see how many miniatures were in the trilogy, because of their small scale, the actors and actresses all had to spend most of their time in front of a green/blue screen, inevitably it affects their performances for the worst
I may be wrong but I think about half of the time the actors were on practical sets, or at least sets with the ground and some objects in the foreground.
This made me have a bit more respect for the prequals, even if they relied on CG where it wasn't necessary.
I used to dislike the CGI clone thing (even though I still thought they looked really good) but, in hindsight, it's gonna be hard to make an army of extras with tye exact same body type. Don't have a problem with anything else, so whatever.
The miniatures look more real in the phantom menace because it was shot on film so the interposition between the real character looked more real, unlike the miniatures in clones and revenge because those movies were shot with digital cameras and the interposition look like garbage because is pretty hard to match something that look tiny with something that is real because the digital cameras can't interconnect both enviorments making it look less like a movie and more like a video game
2:38 i mean look at that shot do you really believe that it was a miniature set without showing you the actual miniature in the backstage? It look more like a ps2 cut scene that an actual movie shot.
I thought revenge of the sith looked pretty good overall despite being digital video as well. Clones has a lot of shots that just turned out ugly.
@@Knightmessenger they still look ugly to me, specially in the "hello there" scene where obi-wan looked like he was in toontown from roger rabbit. I mean places like the opera and the mustafar battle look fine
...so they did made practical effects look like CGI? What an achievement!
I love your videos. I absolutely detest Star Wars haters, and there are so many of them.
Maybe it was the fact that the CGI was mostly used in the foreground where it obscured the scene and ultimately took away from the shot (that, and the post production visual effects that changed the lighting of the shot. There's also a matter of where they chose to use models and the scale of said models. Making miniatures of certain scenes and props (the room where Yoda and Mace talk to Obi-wan via hologram) seems pointless and the sheer size of some props (like the tree villages of Kashyyyk) comes across as pretty over-the-top for something that could have been smaller and have just as much detail.
The tree villages probably had to be made at a larger scale otherwise they might have been too fragile and hard to build
Badass. Thanks!
To be honest, they also used practical effects at wrong times to just make a scene look silly. While the use of no physical clone troopers was strange, the use of a firecracker in the cockpit of the miniature republic shuttle looked silly. In the same film, podracers crash into stuff and it looks awesome. Why did they use any practical explosions? I'm pretty sure we all like a good CGI explosion.
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This cant be real. I reject your reality and substitute my own
Thank you.
I still don't really like the first 2 prequels but I have a slightly better view of TPM and AOTC than I ever did in the past. No wonder I always thought the cinematography and location shooting was breath taking. No wonder I thought the vehicle designs looked beautiful too.
An excellent essay on the beautiful craft of master artists much maligned by the ignorant
The more time passes and the more of these newer Star Wars movies come out, perhaps the more people will allow themselves to admit the painful truth. George wasn't bad, and all the negativity people felt so justified indulging in, is being paid back to them by Disney
for course he wanst all bad but he had just one major flaw he could not write worth a damn, he could set up an amazing shot or come up with a beautiful new planet but he could not make people say things that made sense or create a plot that wasn't full of unnecessary holes or contrivances and do you know why the original trilogy was so perfect its because he wasn't the one writing it he was at his best when he had a team of people to work with and off of and he didn't have that in the prequels because he got cocky
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Actually, Lucas was the primary driving force for all of the first six Star Wars movies. No one fully understood what Lucas was trying to achieve with the original Star Wars, as it was too distinctive for the time. Lucas also had friends and colleagues proofread and critique the prequels scripts. Many of these people had worked with him in a similar capacity on the originals. The dialogue is just as hokey and corny in both trilogies. Harrison Ford once famously told Lucas on the set of the original Star Wars "You can write this shit, but you can't say it." What happened is a lot of people grew up hearing that dialogue and it became ingrained in their psyche. But when they hear dialogue of a similar quality uttered in the prequels it sounds off, because they didn't grow up listening to it.
Dan Waldman i think it also has to do with tone the OT is a lot more campy and the themes are simple so bad dialogue isn’t as immersion breaking when compared to the super serious drama with themes about politics and corruption
I am convinced that Lucas sold Star Wars because of all the hate towards the prequels. And yes the dialog was based on older movies. Watch a 30's romance. Painfully awkward and stilted compared to today's films. Lucas did it on purpose for style.
It became popular to hate on the prequels, and it killed the end trilogy. I would pay good money to see Lucas's vision, but the odds of that happening, ok I won't tell you the odds.
Dang didnt know most of these
I don't think the presence of CGI is the problem. Most of it is really good for the time. The main issue I had with the films visually is the overreliance on green screen and that episodes II and III were shot digitally rather than on film as was the norm at the time.
Especially in Revenge of the Sith, the shots that were 100% CG or a mix of CG and practical models looked good. They didn't start breaking down until they started including green screen plates with people. The keying is atrocious. Sometimes there was even green in people's hair because it couldn't be keyed out. And that's obviously not the fault of the VFX artists. They were just limited by the technology of their time.
But there's another factor. The prequels had far lower budgets than most blockbusters of their time. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) cost $25 millinon more than Attack of the Clones (2002) and Dead Man's Chest (2006) had nearly twice the budget of Revenge of the Sith (2005). They still had bigger budgets than the Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-2003) so we can't blame money entirely.
I think the problem is that so many of these incredible builds were muddied by having CGI be painted over so much of it.
I think either the coloured lighting or some CGI after effects or just the consequence of the editing or colour timing is throwing the look off - There is something very odd looking about the prequels - even when it's a set they look fake as hell - perhaps it's the cameras they used.
Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were shot on digital cameras, which might be a big part of it.
@@ECHenry And from what I understand they were incredibly primitive digital cameras.
I definitely think AotC suffered by being shot digital. Revenge of the Sith looked much better.
Still, they hold up better than just about any marvel movie which all look murky.
Those are some awesome models, how did they shrink the actors?
(It's just a joke, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, please don't hurt me internet people)
you missed the Nabo star fighter that is in the Boston musaim of scenic
wow holy crap
Probably already commented here, but shout out to Adam Savage and Tori Belachi (sp) of future Mythbusters fame for their work on these films (can be seen in the pic of the Caminoan city)
If any of y'all know a full-on die-hard prequel films hater, maybe share this video with them.
I think the fault is they somehow made so many surfaces look a combination of glossy and sticky, especially in episodes 1 and 2, that makes them really look like CGI. Like the Lucrehulk, the AAT and MTTs, almost everything that's metallic has like a wax coating on it
5:08 appears to actually be full size.
No, you can see a dude on the right fixing it up. The figure in the middle is a scale model for reference.
Better than sequel trilogy visual effect
man...looking at the prequels you just realise how unimaginative the sequels and the planets' designs from them are...
amen brother
I would say that it's a big achievement when your craftsmanship is called cgi
So what your saying is the vehicles and landscapes of the prequels were more real than the actual beings inhabiting them? honestly not surprised.
What is this music??? O.O
prequels rule abrams drools
you have that they wrong way round
I'm a huge star wars fan... other than the prequels. And the new ones. And the old ones. But I love Star Trek. Except all of those ones I mentioned. Big fan though.
Atleast jj was somewhat loyal to the source material unlike johnson
I prefer the prequels over the original trilogy
but i think coruscant air scenes are cgi. like the taxi scene or the chase from episode 2.
and its amazing when a minature model of a character is placed in the minature set that makes the scene more believable. i once made a 3d arabian palace terrace and when added small pots the terrace looked huge. i mean the attention to detail makes it more amazing.
and is the bg music a cover version of adele's SKYFALL?
please tell me what is the name of the music you used
I bought it was all CGI because I couldn’t understand how they did it otherwise, but it didn’t make sense because this was in the 2000’s and CGI didn’t look this good.
just the amount of love and hard work that went into these movies is amazing! they used actual models and sets in contrast to the more modern sequel trilogies. these are masterpieces compared to Disney's version that just feels devoid of life and love imo
You might not like the CGI Clone Troopers, but I for one do! For an army of 6ft tall soldiers, George made the right call making them CGI. You did get your wish with real-life actors in clone suits via some of the Disney projects, but their armor looks cheap, shiny (for soldiers who are supposed to have been in several battles) and some legions have the wrong color palette, specifically the iconic 501st Clones during the Order 66 scenes in Kenobi; too bright a blue, most the “real” clones are either taller/shorter than others, others move around rather clunky/clumsily in their “real” armor, not at all like Soldiers of the Republic - much more akin to Stormtroopers, which should be a CLEAR distinction. 🤦🏻♂️
I really love these miniature environments, but I think part of the reason the the prequels look overly-CG is that the miniatures should not have been used as much in composite shots featuring closeups of actors, rather than a full-scale set. The actors always look pasted onto a scene rather than living in it. This is especially true for Kamino, Genonosis, and Courescant. Tatooine and the Naboo surface usually come out looking ok.
and naboo interiors and some exteriors were also shot on location.
Yeah, the Naboo palace is probably the best looking set in the whole trilogy.