I’ve been doing kratom every day for about 10 years now. I’ve been to the point of taking 50 grams a day and I already have been tapering down the past few weeks, but this video kinda woke my brain up from this mental prison I’ve been in for so long. I’m committing to quitting kratom now after seeing you talk about your experiences, I think I’ve been in denial about how Kratom has been affecting my life negatively for years now. Throughout my journey I have been addicted to several other substances, I almost died from drinking as much liquor as I was, and that mixed with the kratom completely destroyed my stomach, liver, and pancreas. When I had gone to rehab, I had to go to the hospital for several days because they realized I was in severe pain, I had pancreatitis, most certainly from the combination of kratom and alcohol. Needless to say, it wasn’t as hard to quit drinking after that point because it could result in serious pain. I have been alcohol free for a few years now, but somehow never seemed to quit the kratom. Now, I feel like it’s time to make a change. Thanks for your video man, been a longtime fan since the old old prank video days. Glad to see you got out of it bro. We can all do better.
@@TheBigRedMachine54 I wouldn't say ask 'How did you take so much' and ''lol' to someone who just shared their struggle. Not a good look. Everyone has a different past and body so remember; they aren't you. Also, someone who's taken kratom a lot, for years... you can easily up your dose slowly over time building a tolerance, so I guarantee this person didn't take 50 the first time or week.
Being sober all the time is DEATH Why not experience consciousness and all it's varieties and glory? Literally no reason not to....that's what Life experience IS
@@LuxuryBeatsMusicI agree Fuck Being sober bro if you are happy good for you but everyone’s perspective on “sober” is different but nah everyone is different though
@@LuxuryBeatsMusic your comment shows that you don't have life experience 😂 When you're not sober you're the opposite of conscious so basically "death". Exactly the opposite of what you say.
I'm a cancer survivor suffering from chronic pain. Kratom has been a godsend for me in managing my pain. Like anything, you can abuse it and overdo it but you can also do it in moderation and responsibly. I'm lucky to not have an addictive personality. I am not advocating for it or against it, I respect your decision to quit after recognizing the negative patterns. All the best to you brother 👊🏽
I'm so glad that people are waking up to how addictive and damaging kratom is. I'm 28 and I was addicted to it for four to five years.. prior to that, I'd never been addicted to opiates or any strong substance. I'd "toss and wash" 25- 30g of it per day. It became a big problem for me during the pandemic, as I was lonely and isolated.. The withdrawals were very rough for me.. even when the physical withdrawals had mostly subsided (restless legs syndrome, severe chills, etc.), I had the worst depression of my life for 2- 3 months after quitting. I quit in June, and I was so depressed for the entire summer and thought it would never end. Now in January 2025, I am SO happy that i am off that stuff.. my brain feels like it has repaired itself and can produce dopamine in a normal way. In the first few months after quitting i was tempted to relapse just because the depression was so bad, but now I have no desire to ever consume it again.
Been a few years since getting off kratom. took me 6 months to completely get passed the withdrawals. shit is the best feeling ever in the beginning , closest thing to spiritual enlightenment i’ve experienced but instead of it leading to peace it leads u into hell. just stay focused , join NA or AA, get into meditation and self improvement . as cheesy as it sounds, life can actually be 10x better sober but it takes a lot of growth and effort . just keep going and don’t give up, it pays off in the end . thank you for sharing this, much love brother 🙏❤️
I was addicted to kratom for 5 years. My experience was very similar to yours. I am 1.5 years sober off kratom. Kratom became a prison for me, a routine I couldn't escape. But now that I am out life is so much sweeter. Glad you got out too
Sup Andrew... I have been a subscriber for what has to be 15 years now? Crazy how time flies, I have watched your vids off and on over the years and find them relatable. I saw you in a club in Chengdu ("Lan Gwei Feng") circa 2012 with my girlfriend at the time but was too shy to say hi. It was surreal seeing someone I was subbed to on TH-cam in a club 2,000 miles away from home. Anyway, glad you're still out there and making the occasional vid.
Kratom is brutal. I went off it cold turkey I was miserable for a couple days. But I was becoming a lazy piece of shit. I would go through a 500g bag in a month. Appreciate the honesty man. Good job
I love Kratom but I had to quit too. Just another addiction to mask boredom, loneliness and lack of purpose. No side effects after quitting tho thankfully
I was addicted to FDA approved pain pills, benzos and muscle relaxers for 11 years straight. I got fired from chronic pain management in April 2019 because I didn’t show up for a per contract pill count. I was 11 pills short and my drug dealers didn’t have any pink oxy 10’s. After that, I went to the streets and started doing cocaine while I was searching for a new pain management doctor. In June 2019, whilst in cocaine withdrawal, I watched that documentary “A Leaf of Faith.” My journey with Kratom began the very next day. Kratom shut that “I need one more snort, one more pill, one more escape” noise off in my brain. It allowed me to work on my whys of addiction. I have not been back to pain management in over 5 years. I am a functioning member of society again. I am a thriving mother again. I am no longer a burden to my kids. I will be forever grateful and thankful that I accidentally found lab-tested whole-leaf powder Kratom. I now pass on my journey, wisdom and science to help those struggling with addiction, chronic pain, anxiety and depression. Yours truly, Kratom advocate/activist from Colorado est. 2019.
Yes, kratom is a wonderful plant medicine and helped me as well; but I no longer have a need or reason to continue this crazy routine im still on, quitting as of now...(I made post about me use/abuse of this vid if interested). Im very glad it's out there; but ANYTHING that is good for many can also be just as bad for just as many. Medicine is tricky that way. So glad you found kratom and it helps you.
I've stayed away from it because I've only heard bad things about it, glad you're staying away now. I'm 2 weeks off nicotine and that has been the hardest thing for me. Definitely crave it often.
Congrats! I used to be so addicted to vaping, and nicotine in general, under all its forms. I thought I would never be able to quit it, took me about a year of trying to downgrade from vaping to nicotine chewing gums/lozenges, and then another year to get off that. Been nicotine-free for a while now and I can't believe I finally managed it. I had almost given up hope. You can do it man!
Good on you mate! It’s insidious as hell. Seems innocent at first.. I’m sure just like opiate pills. But it’s a demon in your life. I was blinded by the shills saying it was so amazing and life saving. Figured I’d buy a kilo and see what’s up. Within 3 months I was taking a kilo every 3-5 days. Within a year 5 kilos would last me around 3 weeks. That was satan no doubt about it. Please stay away. If you can live life without it then you are way better off. Because soon you won’t know how to live without it and nothing fills the void.
Iv been addicted for over 10 years. Im 42 male. Its helped me with alot of issues like social anxiety and problems in my life that i would worry about, made me not care as much. Unfortunately it lead to my unwanted divorce(zero libido )to the person i loved more than anything. I wasnt able to quit and still cant. Kinda sad reality
I think it’s important to find the root of your problems. The more you ask the question… why, you’ll discover it and be able to accept who you are. Then you can begin to deal with the you of the past and stop relying on drugs to ease the pain. It’ll be a tough road ahead, but the highs and lows are what make life worth living. Best of luck to you on your journey.
Is it the rush of the feeling, the pain it reduces, or the way it feels in your body? I would recommend using a different/light strain or start decreasing dosage every week til you're down to like 1g and then you can get off.
@@dajex16 i think its the distraction or how it helps me not worry as much. I have pretty bad anxiety/insecurity so I think it kinda blocks those issues for me which is great but it slows down self improvement just like Andrew talks about. Its definitely a nice rush as well. So yeah the head change and distraction is the want to. I try to taper often but i have those days were things are hard and im like, oh we will do better tomorrow. Never ending cycle. I think in order to quit id have to full cold turkey and well thats a battle. I havnt lost hope though.
5 year daily addict. Cant relate to not wanting to do anything, kratom got me out of bed when i was depressed. But it hasnt worked much in the last year. I have crazy mood swings, but i think i had those a bit before too. When it worked it was the BEST drug. No one knew, feels amazing but not too strong so you could go in public. i felt like a superhero having the best day ever. Nothing now, I wanna quit
I was hooked on it for 2 years and that was enough for me to start having terrible side effects like frequent panic attacks and inability to sleep, completely nuked my sex drive, made me irritable as a mf and super stagnant in life not caring about anything. Thought it was the solution to all my problems for like a year and boy did that turn a hard corner one day. I've been off it for 7 years now, highly recommend staying away from that shit. Was fucked up mentally for like the whole year after quitting. I remember your vlog from years ago where you mentioned starting to take it and I tried to warn ya lol. Good work getting off it.
Love you Andrew, glad you decided to deal with that. I've been watching you since I was in middle school dude, I'm 26 now. I haven't watched your videos in a while, I miss seeing your stuff. I gotta check out the interviews you've been doing lately. I wanted to know if you ever tried or thought about doing Jiu Jitsu? I started that almost 2 years ago and it really has benefited me in so many areas of my life. Not a fix all thing but really made a huge difference in my life and was curious if you ever tried it before.
I started kratom for chronic pain. Took it daily for a few years. I never had any real negative side effects other than dependency and the associated withdrawal symptoms. I cut back a lot and only take it occasionally now. Quitting can be hard, I would liken it to nicotine addiction. 50-100g is crazy to me. The most I ever took was ~2g a couple times a day. Toss and wash is great but horrible if you do it wrong lol.
Glad you’re still posting dude! Kratum is wild. I never explored it but I’ve seen friends on it. So weird that it’s easily accessible but like you said, a lot of people use it to get off of harder drugs.
It's odd hearing other people's side effects. I've been taking green vein for a couple years now and I have zero side effects. It actually seems to speed up my metabolism and gives me more motivation. I think the issue is everyone abuses it. I limit myself to 3 grams twice a day and have never strayed from that dose. Every drug is bad if you can't control yourself.
I left almost this exact comment here last time he talked about it a while ago lol. Nothing negative the first year or two. Except I take about 6.5gpd in one shot. Still feel mostly positive about it but it evolved from one or two day breaks to none and something that really helped me a lot with depression is almost fueling it at this point. Still kind of helps for an hour or so but then it just enhances it and it’s taken me down some dark paths. Even so I still feel like the benefits outweigh the negatives but barely. Hard to explain but it’s gotten me further than I’d have otherwise gotten without it and got me out of my comfort zone more but feels like it’s taking my soul in the process lol. The withdrawals aren’t too bad, nothing physical at least but it’s hard to stop with how readily available it is and I don’t have a good enough reason to stop at this point. I view it as a tool but be careful with it because those doses really crept up on me because even with breaks the lower doses I was taking quit being effective at all and that’s when all the negative aspects started coming into play.
Withdrawals aren't fun but it was nothing crazy for me with reasonable dosages. Headaches and anxiety for a few days. Friends who took high doses had much worse experiences quitting. It never made me lazy but then again I was taking a similar dose to you, not 50+ grams a day lol
There are tons of people, including myself, who will say the opposite of what you said, concerning motivation. For me, it had the opposite effect... Krarom made me MORE motivated and focused. I've never gotten brain "fog" from it. It actually caused me to LOSE my appetite and lose weight. I lost more than 25 pounds. Also, the worst withdrawal symptom I got was severe Restless Legs Syndrome at night. But you never addressed this or how to deal with it.
Kratom took me off opiates which i took for 11 years. 6 weeks of kratom had virtually no painful side effects that comes with opiate withdrawal. A week of restless legs. Best drug ever for coming off opiates.
Been taking kratom daily for 6-7 years. I don't relate to it reducing motivation, it makes me feel motivated and focused. Possibly to the extent I can't do so without it. It's so tricky because it's subtle, hasn't caused any super obvious side effects or issues, and anytime I've taken a break, I don't feel all that bad and convince myself life is just better with it so I go back. It just doesn't feel right to take it every day though without knowing the true long term consequences.
I run marathons on kratom. I am terribly addicted and I'd like to quit but my life has only gotten better in the last 10 years I've done it. I got in shape, quit weed, moved from a town I hated to a city I really enjoy, my job is going well. It hypes me up, even the red vein. I'm am afraid to get off it because I can't hardly run unless I take a dose, I am afraid I'll gain all the weight back.
Dude last time i watched your videos i was like 13, im 23 now and have an addiction to kratom aswell that i want to quit, i just stumbled on this vid... gonna start watching ya again
It’s very strange to see this video pop up this afternoon in my feed. I’ve followed you for awhile and wouldn’t have guessed you were on Kratom. My experience with Kratom is very similar to yours though I went into the extracts and then onto 7-OH. My quit date is December 26th, 2024. The withdrawals were very intense.. I wouldn’t have made it through without medication like gabapentin and clonidine for the restless legs and sleep issues. I believe my brain is still healing and I’m trying to be a better person off of it as I cannot control it like yourself. I believe these extracts and 7-OH is so insidious, that I want to start a coalition of addicts and people who are struggling/have struggled with this drug and inform the public. This is a very bad problem that has ruined many users financially and emotionally. Thanks Andrew for this video. I hope to bring awareness to the users suffering from this drug.
I've been taking the Green Malay Kra-tom for almost 4 years. Each strain does something different and each person reacts differently. For me, green Malay helps me focus and helps my back from hurting (injury from work). It's super easy for me to get off and have gotten off of it for months til my back started keeping me up at night. It can give some withdraws like hot flashes, restlessness, unable to get comfortable, and a big shift in mood swings if you take huge doses. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone and if I do, I recommend small doses like 1-2 grams. I hope to get off kratom one day and hope my back gets better once I strengthen it.
I’ve been on it for 10 years. One year off. Definitely is holding me back too. Doesn’t work like it used to for me. It’s probably tolerance but I feel like the quality of wholesale stuff has gone down.
The constipation has been the worst part too. I used to have ibs but then over time it made me insanely constipated. From one end of the spectrum to the other. I feel like my digestive system is broken because of it and I don’t eat because of it. I had the same fantasy of getting well off enough to just not work and use it. I also ate a ton of ice cream too. Luckily I work a strenuous job but sometimes I feel like I’m falling apart at work. Also be careful with adding too much fiber in to help pass stool. It can worsen the issue. Fruit smoothies with probiotics have helped me.
@@Greatlakeskyle.drink coffee till you feel things move in your stomach and then pop in a nicotine pouch and bam you are good to go. fixed my constipation issues with kratom
@ dude you ain’t telling me anything new. I drink coffee but it worsens my issues sometimes. I take a strong magnesium supplement that does much more help than coffee. I started vaping nicotine too a year and a half ago and it’s also worsened my mental & physical health. More substances or things that change your mental state aren’t the answer:
Hi Andrew (: I hope you and your family have been okay and have had a great holiday season. I wanted to say thank you for sharing your journey. My baby daddy 😮 was addicted to it. He would chug tablespoons of it and chug water. I tried and almost puked and it gave me a headache. He was an ass, and bum. A lazy ass but. Thank you for getting clean and spreading awareness. Addiction is insane you're so strong! God bless
Such an interesting video. I always pass those stores and wonder what it is, and looking at the comments it’s clearly something a lot of people take. I naively assumed it was like a salvia type gas station drug that probably sucks. Good on you for talking about your problems with it while still acknowledging it can help people in pain
Dood thanks for talking about your experience. I became hooked on it on and off for a few years. Didn’t get too crazy with it as in my dose per day wasn’t that high. But it became a beautiful bad habit. It melted anxiety and just chills you out. Replaced weed for me. But I’m very happy to be off weed and kratom these days. Kratom was even harder to quit than weed. Those with an addictive personality, be extremely cautious about kratom, please.
Bro I just stopped Kratom today! It felt just like Vicodin to me. Kratom led me to the ER yesterday, and ruined 2 relationships for me; all within 1 week of using. My brain is still foggy and my vision is still blurry. The consequences don’t outweigh the euphoric high.
I had someone very close that I don’t want to name to respect their privacy, but it turned them into a different person when they tried stopping altogether. No sleep, lashing out, talking as if seeing things that everyone else isn’t, literally clocking out mid conversation then coming back in 10 seconds… ultimately ended up in psychosis. They’re doing a lot better now, but the psychosis could have also been related to the sleep he lost while quitting… it really is different for everyone, but there’s a reason it’s not monitored bc it’s almost unexplainable. RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME…. I watched this person walk a marathon in 3 days
I was this close to taking kratom. It was right after needing a break from bud because weed did to me exactly what you described it doing, and I’m at a point in my life where I seriously need to take charge and do what’s better for my life. But after a while I just wanted *something* for after work/weekends and I learned about kratom. However after doing research I had to be real with myself after realizing I have an addictive personality, and having an Opiate Lite (kratom) as an easily accessible option, that based off of others experience seems like it has a very similar outcome as weed did to me (lazy, super content with mediocrity, and weirdly okay with staying where I am in life), I decided not to do it. I appreciate you being real and sharing your experience man, good on you.
Every time I go for a longer walk with a friend I take 2 to 3 grams. I have never had the urge to take more. This happens about two times a month. I feel a slight euphoria and feel elated and talkative. But it could also just be the walking.
It definitely makes you more talkative. Doing anywhere from 1.5 - 3g is the best spot. and controlling yourself and never taking more than that is what makes it good. Anyone that takes over 10g a day and slowly increasing it is why it they negative effects.
I really appreciate you sharing your experience with kratom! You know my history and why I take it, but yeah, totally agree. If I didn't need it for pain, I wouldn't take it every day. Withdrawals for daily users are absolutely real, and that's something the kratom advocates are not honest about!!! I always tell people the good, the bad, and the ugly, and let them decide. Love you man!!
Restless legs, daytime sleepiness and anxiety were the worst symptoms to be of quitting kratom. Well I didnt quit I just went 3 weeks withouut it. Now I take it again but smaller doses.
You really described how kratom makes me feel perfectly, or at least how it used to make me feel. The kid on Christmas analogy was on point, but also how it makes you overly content and destroys motivation. Been on it for about a year and a half now, I've tried getting off before but the experience was truly awful. How long did the withdrawals last for you, and do you feel like you're completely back to normal now? I'd love to hear more about your experience with it.
I was meant to see this video, wasn't I.. I'm literally on it right now, I managed to scratch up my last 5 grams.. I've been doing it daily for 4-5 years. I have 250 grams in the mail, but I won't have it for probably another week. Thankfully I don't experience withdrawals when I run out. I realize that it's a problem -- I realize what it's turned me into. Remember experiencing Kratom for the first time? Gosh, it was magical. But we never quite get that feeling again, do we? Always chasing the dragon. I use it as a crutch, I don't do any other drugs, never have. Yes, Kratom makes you "content" -- which is nice. But if you remain "content" for too long.. things start to fall apart.
50g per day?? I can’t comprehend that. A tea spoon (2-6g?) mixed in water is more than enough for me. I’m 180cm / 87kg btw. I remember last summer I took maybe 2 teaspoons within a couple hours. I was going out on town to be chill and social without alcohol. Only I had to turn back home after 10 minutes because I started feeling dizzy, or rather like I’d lost contact with my nervous system and sense of balance. I couldn’t 100% trust myself not to collapse. It does feel good though with the proper dosage. Especially if doing meditation 🧘
Did kratom from the year 2010 till 2024. Leafs, powders , capsules teas extracts.. I'm almost 30. So you do the math. It was a wild journey. But I'm finally off it and it's quite nice 👍❤ (still use it ,but very rarely like when I have a accident and get hurt or on vacation , super glad to have control over it finally )
im struggling to get off kratom right now i feel you im getting the same side effects as you im tryin to ween myself off of it im down to 4grams. im also tryin to get off of phenibut too...im glad you made this video cause im on a kratom sttruggle
kratom is the same as an opiate. The drug works in the same way. The only thing that makes it less "intense" as other opiates is it is taken orally and has lower bioavailability then taking other opiates intranasally (snorting), smoking, or injecting. I explain more in replies:
Also the reason why Crack cocaine is more intense then powder Cocaine, they are the same drug, Crack is just free-base Cocaine (enabling a lower melting temperature and thus the option of smoking the drug for better bioavailability than snorting, changing the subjective experience of doing the drug even though they do the exact same thing, there is no difference.
@@hammtron Well, youtube just decided to censor me for no reason... IDK wtf happened to my comments. I posted 2 replies and youtube just shadow-deleted them...
I quit for like a month and a half and it was actually awesome to be sober besides caffeine, but then I started again cause I fooled myself thinking I could just do it once every few days as a reward for work, now it’s been like almost 3 months on it and I’m about to quit again. Imma try working out and stretching especially my legs cus they be so restless.
@@Peace.and.knowledge1it’s really not like k2 at all. It’s in between an upper and downer just like weed, it has some of both. Red vein is like the indica of kratom, green is like the hybrid, and white is like the sativa
I’d say it’s very nice to take now and then as something to relax, or even socialize on. But I would def recommend not taking it everyday, I do think it’s takes away your drive. I take it most days and I def want to cut down, because I just don’t feel as much drive taking it most days
I’d say it’s very nice to take now and then as something to relax, or even socialize on. But I would def recommend not taking it everyday, I do think it’s takes away your drive. I take it most days and I def want to cut down, because I just don’t feel as much drive taking it most days
You can experiment with this, but if you are young and inexperienced with life, you can easily become addicted. It is a recreational drug with no real benefit to improving your life as a whole besides making you feel euphoric for a few hours. You're much better off getting your euphoria from a good diet, exercise, and seeing improvement in your career and relationships.
I have tried it. I ordered a green powder that you mix with water and drink. It tasted like ass and made me gag while drinking it. Its like drinking green bitter beach-sand. But it made me feel great. Everything i did became more enjoyable. I was happier while on it, it made me want to do things instead of just sit and scroll on youtube etc. But it was very hard to sleep on it, totally ruined my sleep schedule. Never got addicted though, due to it being so disgusting to drink.
Thats awful to think you'd get back on it if you were retired. Stay strong and try to stay sober. I luckily never tried Kratom. Used to be a major pothead and nic addict.
I never had a problem as long as I stuck to the plant matter powder only. Once you start taking all the concentrated versions they make then you're getting into having withdrawal if you just stopped cold. Versus I cannot take it after taking it for a month straight and just have a little sweaty of a sleep one night and that's it. Other than that I've never had an issue with side effects. It usually gives me energy all day if I just take it in the morning and at lunch. I've been taking it for 5 years Monday through Friday and just not on the weekend.
I've used it for a year+ or so, 1-2x a month. Wouldn't say I'm addicted, and I can't see how people can become addicted.. unless you've got nothing going on with your life. It just makes me tired/high, but then there's other things I'd rather take to get tired or high - doesnt help that its one of the worst tasting things ever. So I guess it depends on your life situation, mental health and what you want to gain/how you want to feel using it for you to get addicted.
i've been testing out kratom since september...I haven't taken more than like 6 mg a day. maybe once I took 12mg but I didn't enjoy it as much. I think u can dabble in this stuff as long as you keep it below 12 mg and don't do it that much. maybe do it for a few days in a row and then take a break for a couple weeks. do a little drinking instead for a while. nothing like a good beer, some homemade wine. but u gotta have enough good things going on in ur sober life that are more gratifying so you aren't attached to a substance. thats prob the trick to beating any substance. I will prob always dabble in things or at least have a drink now and then
It's not really a thing where I live. We used to have a pretty crazy free for all for legal drugs, but they clamped down really hard like 10-15 years ago. I've never tried it and never known anyone that has tried it. The restless leg syndrome on the withdrawal sounds absolutely brutal. If I started, I would just keep taking it until i die to avoid that.
Sounds like you only tried Red Vein Kratom? White/ Green vein is pretty uplifting for me. I like to take it with a 220 mg caffeine capsule. I buy the powder online and mix it with some water and creatine before the gym. It also helps me with anxiety and insomnia. Works pretty nice but im not gonna lie im def kinda addicted to it now. I appreciate your honesty tho, i know i will have to get off of it at some time, and it does worry me sometimes. If i dont take it for a day or two now i def start to get a runny nose and my mood gets pretty crappy.
6:40 & on That's true addiction lol the amount of times I've done this or made deals with myself. Sucks knowing you gotta live the rest of your life knowing you'll never feel what's in your mind " the best feeling in world " ever again.
The only thing that worked for me is cold turkey, I have such an addictive personality. Weed withdrawal was terrible, nicotine also, but personally the worst was caffeine. Also video games. Im still vaping, probably way to much, but at least its keeping me away from weed and alcohol. Sometimes I want to blame society for pushing people to use substances, but ultimately its all on me.
What I like about cannabis is more than just the drug itself - you can become a connoisseur for fine weed the same way you can with fine liquors or wines, you can become an enthusiast with high-end vaporizers and other methods of consumption, you can engage in cannabis tourism by visiting places with top notch dispensaries, and you can use it socially to share different strains and elevate your interactions with other people. So for me, it's more than just a drug - it's also a hobby, a pastime, and a lifestyle. Not sure if any of that applies to Kratom, but I'm guessing not.
I tried it and did not like it at all. Well at first it seemed nice for a day. But I swear for the next 3 days I was overly stressed and kind of anxious. I threw the rest away.
Same experience. 2 hours of fun for 2 days of awful, no thanks. Phenibut is 100x better but tolerance comes quick, also doesn’t take as much edge off but makes you more lively instead of vegged imo.
I've tried it a few times, I enjoyed it but as you said it makes me a bit lazy. Even tho they arent an everyday thing mushrooms are kinda that medium but more energy.
Damn brotha. I been addicted for years and have been on the extracts pills and goddamn they're good, but bad. Extremely addictive, I used to do capsules but these are in a whole other league. To me it feels almost impossible to quit on my own bc Im physically and mentally dependent on them to work and I'm a culinary manager in a goddamn bonefish grill so I work all the time. I want to get off them and rid myself bc the financial issues are killing me but I can't stop unless I found a way to go to detox, I get very fucking sick if I don't have them, so I will go to extreme lengths to make sure I have what I need. It's fucked. Don't EVER TRY THE EXTRACTS. 7OH is the worstly, so addictive. Wish you the best though man.
I’ve been doing kratom every day for about 10 years now. I’ve been to the point of taking 50 grams a day and I already have been tapering down the past few weeks, but this video kinda woke my brain up from this mental prison I’ve been in for so long. I’m committing to quitting kratom now after seeing you talk about your experiences, I think I’ve been in denial about how Kratom has been affecting my life negatively for years now. Throughout my journey I have been addicted to several other substances, I almost died from drinking as much liquor as I was, and that mixed with the kratom completely destroyed my stomach, liver, and pancreas. When I had gone to rehab, I had to go to the hospital for several days because they realized I was in severe pain, I had pancreatitis, most certainly from the combination of kratom and alcohol. Needless to say, it wasn’t as hard to quit drinking after that point because it could result in serious pain. I have been alcohol free for a few years now, but somehow never seemed to quit the kratom. Now, I feel like it’s time to make a change.
Thanks for your video man, been a longtime fan since the old old prank video days. Glad to see you got out of it bro. We can all do better.
How do you take 50 grams a day without getting sick? I do 3-4 grams per day spread out in three doses and I stay mildly high lol
@@TheBigRedMachine54 I wouldn't say ask 'How did you take so much' and ''lol' to someone who just shared their struggle. Not a good look. Everyone has a different past and body so remember; they aren't you. Also, someone who's taken kratom a lot, for years... you can easily up your dose slowly over time building a tolerance, so I guarantee this person didn't take 50 the first time or week.
What the… just looked up your channel after years. I got off Kratom 3 months ago! Life is so much better now, honestly.
There is nothing better than a sane, sober life. Many of us needed to take the detour before understanding fully.
Being sober all the time is DEATH
Why not experience consciousness and all it's varieties and glory?
Literally no reason not to....that's what Life experience IS
@@LuxuryBeatsMusicI agree
Fuck Being sober bro if you are happy good for you but everyone’s perspective on “sober” is different but nah everyone is different though
@@LuxuryBeatsMusic lots of reasons not to. Addiction, being one.
It takes people longer than others to realize this
@@LuxuryBeatsMusic your comment shows that you don't have life experience 😂 When you're not sober you're the opposite of conscious so basically "death". Exactly the opposite of what you say.
I'm a cancer survivor suffering from chronic pain. Kratom has been a godsend for me in managing my pain. Like anything, you can abuse it and overdo it but you can also do it in moderation and responsibly. I'm lucky to not have an addictive personality. I am not advocating for it or against it, I respect your decision to quit after recognizing the negative patterns. All the best to you brother 👊🏽
Hell ya 2025 forest vlogs
I'm so glad that people are waking up to how addictive and damaging kratom is. I'm 28 and I was addicted to it for four to five years.. prior to that, I'd never been addicted to opiates or any strong substance. I'd "toss and wash" 25- 30g of it per day. It became a big problem for me during the pandemic, as I was lonely and isolated..
The withdrawals were very rough for me.. even when the physical withdrawals had mostly subsided (restless legs syndrome, severe chills, etc.), I had the worst depression of my life for 2- 3 months after quitting. I quit in June, and I was so depressed for the entire summer and thought it would never end. Now in January 2025, I am SO happy that i am off that stuff.. my brain feels like it has repaired itself and can produce dopamine in a normal way. In the first few months after quitting i was tempted to relapse just because the depression was so bad, but now I have no desire to ever consume it again.
Nice to hear your story on that, thanks for sharing and great job on being off it!
Been a few years since getting off kratom. took me 6 months to completely get passed the withdrawals. shit is the best feeling ever in the beginning , closest thing to spiritual enlightenment i’ve experienced but instead of it leading to peace it leads u into hell. just stay focused , join NA or AA, get into meditation and self improvement . as cheesy as it sounds, life can actually be 10x better sober but it takes a lot of growth and effort . just keep going and don’t give up, it pays off in the end . thank you for sharing this, much love brother 🙏❤️
I was addicted to kratom for 5 years. My experience was very similar to yours. I am 1.5 years sober off kratom. Kratom became a prison for me, a routine I couldn't escape. But now that I am out life is so much sweeter. Glad you got out too
ivd been addicted for 5 years too, i wanna stop. how did you do it?
Sup Andrew... I have been a subscriber for what has to be 15 years now? Crazy how time flies, I have watched your vids off and on over the years and find them relatable. I saw you in a club in Chengdu ("Lan Gwei Feng") circa 2012 with my girlfriend at the time but was too shy to say hi. It was surreal seeing someone I was subbed to on TH-cam in a club 2,000 miles away from home. Anyway, glad you're still out there and making the occasional vid.
Kratom is brutal. I went off it cold turkey I was miserable for a couple days. But I was becoming a lazy piece of shit. I would go through a 500g bag in a month. Appreciate the honesty man. Good job
you mean a 500g bag right?
@matejshawty2147 yeah 500g thank you.the powder red something. Shits so gross
@@matejshawty2147 Yes 500g a month
I love Kratom but I had to quit too. Just another addiction to mask boredom, loneliness and lack of purpose. No side effects after quitting tho thankfully
Man, boredom is my number one killer. That down time at night is when I always slip up.
Lucky. I felt so uncomfortable especially at night. The runs all the time 😅
Bro went from dancing 6 hours to vlogging deep thoughts in a forest
i find its helpful to rotate these things day to day . a beer , cbd , kava , kratom ... . you dont get a chance to build a tolerance to 1 .
be careful with kava and alcohol, drinking them too close to each other can really damage your liver unfortunately
1 per day . but yeah . they are likely all not good for the organs
Cbd? Might as well just go sober that day because that ain't gonna do anything for you if you're looking for a high
But you have a really good point 👍
I was addicted to FDA approved pain pills, benzos and muscle relaxers for 11 years straight.
I got fired from chronic pain management in April 2019 because I didn’t show up for a per contract pill count. I was 11 pills short and my drug dealers didn’t have any pink oxy 10’s.
After that, I went to the streets and started doing cocaine while I was searching for a new pain management doctor.
In June 2019, whilst in cocaine withdrawal, I watched that documentary “A Leaf of Faith.” My journey with Kratom began the very next day.
Kratom shut that “I need one more snort, one more pill, one more escape” noise off in my brain. It allowed me to work on my whys of addiction. I have not been back to pain management in over 5 years.
I am a functioning member of society again. I am a thriving mother again. I am no longer a burden to my kids. I will be forever grateful and thankful that I accidentally found lab-tested whole-leaf powder Kratom.
I now pass on my journey, wisdom and science to help those struggling with addiction, chronic pain, anxiety and depression.
Yours truly, Kratom advocate/activist from Colorado est. 2019.
Your doctors should be stripped of their license
Yes, kratom is a wonderful plant medicine and helped me as well; but I no longer have a need or reason to continue this crazy routine im still on, quitting as of now...(I made post about me use/abuse of this vid if interested). Im very glad it's out there; but ANYTHING that is good for many can also be just as bad for just as many. Medicine is tricky that way. So glad you found kratom and it helps you.
Glad it helped you, I bet you had it rough!
I've stayed away from it because I've only heard bad things about it, glad you're staying away now. I'm 2 weeks off nicotine and that has been the hardest thing for me. Definitely crave it often.
It gets much better with time. Keep it up
Congrats 👏🏻 keep it up
Congrats! I used to be so addicted to vaping, and nicotine in general, under all its forms. I thought I would never be able to quit it, took me about a year of trying to downgrade from vaping to nicotine chewing gums/lozenges, and then another year to get off that. Been nicotine-free for a while now and I can't believe I finally managed it. I had almost given up hope. You can do it man!
Good on you mate! It’s insidious as hell. Seems innocent at first.. I’m sure just like opiate pills. But it’s a demon in your life. I was blinded by the shills saying it was so amazing and life saving. Figured I’d buy a kilo and see what’s up. Within 3 months I was taking a kilo every 3-5 days. Within a year 5 kilos would last me around 3 weeks. That was satan no doubt about it. Please stay away. If you can live life without it then you are way better off. Because soon you won’t know how to live without it and nothing fills the void.
I have been telling myself i need to wuit for a while. Keep it up, its hard and your already 2 weeks in. Dont stop now!!
Human, I really appreciate your authenticity. Thank you.
Iv been addicted for over 10 years. Im 42 male. Its helped me with alot of issues like social anxiety and problems in my life that i would worry about, made me not care as much. Unfortunately it lead to my unwanted divorce(zero libido )to the person i loved more than anything. I wasnt able to quit and still cant. Kinda sad reality
I think it’s important to find the root of your problems. The more you ask the question… why, you’ll discover it and be able to accept who you are. Then you can begin to deal with the you of the past and stop relying on drugs to ease the pain. It’ll be a tough road ahead, but the highs and lows are what make life worth living. Best of luck to you on your journey.
Is it the rush of the feeling, the pain it reduces, or the way it feels in your body? I would recommend using a different/light strain or start decreasing dosage every week til you're down to like 1g and then you can get off.
@@HeatWanted thank u😊
@@dajex16 i think its the distraction or how it helps me not worry as much. I have pretty bad anxiety/insecurity so I think it kinda blocks those issues for me which is great but it slows down self improvement just like Andrew talks about. Its definitely a nice rush as well. So yeah the head change and distraction is the want to. I try to taper often but i have those days were things are hard and im like, oh we will do better tomorrow. Never ending cycle. I think in order to quit id have to full cold turkey and well thats a battle. I havnt lost hope though.
Dang..
5 year daily addict. Cant relate to not wanting to do anything, kratom got me out of bed when i was depressed. But it hasnt worked much in the last year. I have crazy mood swings, but i think i had those a bit before too. When it worked it was the BEST drug. No one knew, feels amazing but not too strong so you could go in public. i felt like a superhero having the best day ever. Nothing now, I wanna quit
Sounds exactly like my weed addicition back in the day
I was hooked on it for 2 years and that was enough for me to start having terrible side effects like frequent panic attacks and inability to sleep, completely nuked my sex drive, made me irritable as a mf and super stagnant in life not caring about anything. Thought it was the solution to all my problems for like a year and boy did that turn a hard corner one day. I've been off it for 7 years now, highly recommend staying away from that shit. Was fucked up mentally for like the whole year after quitting. I remember your vlog from years ago where you mentioned starting to take it and I tried to warn ya lol. Good work getting off it.
I have the opposite experience. When I take Kratom it gives me drive/energy
50-100 gpd is wild; glad you got clean
Love you Andrew, glad you decided to deal with that. I've been watching you since I was in middle school dude, I'm 26 now. I haven't watched your videos in a while, I miss seeing your stuff. I gotta check out the interviews you've been doing lately. I wanted to know if you ever tried or thought about doing Jiu Jitsu? I started that almost 2 years ago and it really has benefited me in so many areas of my life. Not a fix all thing but really made a huge difference in my life and was curious if you ever tried it before.
I started kratom for chronic pain. Took it daily for a few years. I never had any real negative side effects other than dependency and the associated withdrawal symptoms.
I cut back a lot and only take it occasionally now. Quitting can be hard, I would liken it to nicotine addiction.
50-100g is crazy to me. The most I ever took was ~2g a couple times a day. Toss and wash is great but horrible if you do it wrong lol.
Glad you’re still posting dude! Kratum is wild. I never explored it but I’ve seen friends on it. So weird that it’s easily accessible but like you said, a lot of people use it to get off of harder drugs.
It's odd hearing other people's side effects. I've been taking green vein for a couple years now and I have zero side effects. It actually seems to speed up my metabolism and gives me more motivation. I think the issue is everyone abuses it. I limit myself to 3 grams twice a day and have never strayed from that dose. Every drug is bad if you can't control yourself.
I left almost this exact comment here last time he talked about it a while ago lol. Nothing negative the first year or two. Except I take about 6.5gpd in one shot. Still feel mostly positive about it but it evolved from one or two day breaks to none and something that really helped me a lot with depression is almost fueling it at this point. Still kind of helps for an hour or so but then it just enhances it and it’s taken me down some dark paths. Even so I still feel like the benefits outweigh the negatives but barely. Hard to explain but it’s gotten me further than I’d have otherwise gotten without it and got me out of my comfort zone more but feels like it’s taking my soul in the process lol. The withdrawals aren’t too bad, nothing physical at least but it’s hard to stop with how readily available it is and I don’t have a good enough reason to stop at this point. I view it as a tool but be careful with it because those doses really crept up on me because even with breaks the lower doses I was taking quit being effective at all and that’s when all the negative aspects started coming into play.
Withdrawals aren't fun but it was nothing crazy for me with reasonable dosages. Headaches and anxiety for a few days. Friends who took high doses had much worse experiences quitting. It never made me lazy but then again I was taking a similar dose to you, not 50+ grams a day lol
There are tons of people, including myself, who will say the opposite of what you said, concerning motivation. For me, it had the opposite effect... Krarom made me MORE motivated and focused. I've never gotten brain "fog" from it. It actually caused me to LOSE my appetite and lose weight. I lost more than 25 pounds. Also, the worst withdrawal symptom I got was severe Restless Legs Syndrome at night. But you never addressed this or how to deal with it.
Thanks for the honesty brother, I’ve been considering making a warning video on it. This inspires me to do so.
Kratom took me off opiates which i took for 11 years. 6 weeks of kratom had virtually no painful side effects that comes with opiate withdrawal. A week of restless legs. Best drug ever for coming off opiates.
How many mgs were you taking? I got the capsules which are .5 each. I'm coming off a 2 month relapse.
Been taking kratom daily for 6-7 years. I don't relate to it reducing motivation, it makes me feel motivated and focused. Possibly to the extent I can't do so without it. It's so tricky because it's subtle, hasn't caused any super obvious side effects or issues, and anytime I've taken a break, I don't feel all that bad and convince myself life is just better with it so I go back. It just doesn't feel right to take it every day though without knowing the true long term consequences.
I run marathons on kratom. I am terribly addicted and I'd like to quit but my life has only gotten better in the last 10 years I've done it. I got in shape, quit weed, moved from a town I hated to a city I really enjoy, my job is going well. It hypes me up, even the red vein. I'm am afraid to get off it because I can't hardly run unless I take a dose, I am afraid I'll gain all the weight back.
When I had access to it and tried it, it gave me energy and made me way more calm.
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Sounds like a mortal kombat character
Dude last time i watched your videos i was like 13, im 23 now and have an addiction to kratom aswell that i want to quit, i just stumbled on this vid... gonna start watching ya again
I just quit Kratom 2 months ago after 4 years at the very least, best of luck to both of us in keeping off of that dog shit
It’s very strange to see this video pop up this afternoon in my feed. I’ve followed you for awhile and wouldn’t have guessed you were on Kratom.
My experience with Kratom is very similar to yours though I went into the extracts and then onto 7-OH. My quit date is December 26th, 2024. The withdrawals were very intense.. I wouldn’t have made it through without medication like gabapentin and clonidine for the restless legs and sleep issues.
I believe my brain is still healing and I’m trying to be a better person off of it as I cannot control it like yourself. I believe these extracts and 7-OH is so insidious, that I want to start a coalition of addicts and people who are struggling/have struggled with this drug and inform the public. This is a very bad problem that has ruined many users financially and emotionally.
Thanks Andrew for this video. I hope to bring awareness to the users suffering from this drug.
Used to take 3 grams of gabapentin and fall around in the basement
I've been taking the Green Malay Kra-tom for almost 4 years. Each strain does something different and each person reacts differently. For me, green Malay helps me focus and helps my back from hurting (injury from work). It's super easy for me to get off and have gotten off of it for months til my back started keeping me up at night. It can give some withdraws like hot flashes, restlessness, unable to get comfortable, and a big shift in mood swings if you take huge doses. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone and if I do, I recommend small doses like 1-2 grams. I hope to get off kratom one day and hope my back gets better once I strengthen it.
I’ve been on it for 10 years. One year off. Definitely is holding me back too. Doesn’t work like it used to for me. It’s probably tolerance but I feel like the quality of wholesale stuff has gone down.
The constipation has been the worst part too. I used to have ibs but then over time it made me insanely constipated. From one end of the spectrum to the other. I feel like my digestive system is broken because of it and I don’t eat because of it. I had the same fantasy of getting well off enough to just not work and use it. I also ate a ton of ice cream too. Luckily I work a strenuous job but sometimes I feel like I’m falling apart at work. Also be careful with adding too much fiber in to help pass stool. It can worsen the issue. Fruit smoothies with probiotics have helped me.
@@Greatlakeskyle.drink coffee till you feel things move in your stomach and then pop in a nicotine pouch and bam you are good to go. fixed my constipation issues with kratom
@ dude you ain’t telling me anything new. I drink coffee but it worsens my issues sometimes. I take a strong magnesium supplement that does much more help than coffee. I started vaping nicotine too a year and a half ago and it’s also worsened my mental & physical health. More substances or things that change your mental state aren’t the answer:
WHATS UP MY ALPHA JIZZLERS?!?!?!
Hi Andrew (: I hope you and your family have been okay and have had a great holiday season. I wanted to say thank you for sharing your journey. My baby daddy 😮 was addicted to it. He would chug tablespoons of it and chug water. I tried and almost puked and it gave me a headache. He was an ass, and bum. A lazy ass but. Thank you for getting clean and spreading awareness. Addiction is insane you're so strong! God bless
Such an interesting video. I always pass those stores and wonder what it is, and looking at the comments it’s clearly something a lot of people take. I naively assumed it was like a salvia type gas station drug that probably sucks. Good on you for talking about your problems with it while still acknowledging it can help people in pain
Dood thanks for talking about your experience. I became hooked on it on and off for a few years. Didn’t get too crazy with it as in my dose per day wasn’t that high. But it became a beautiful bad habit. It melted anxiety and just chills you out. Replaced weed for me. But I’m very happy to be off weed and kratom these days. Kratom was even harder to quit than weed. Those with an addictive personality, be extremely cautious about kratom, please.
Thank you for speaking about this
Bro I just stopped Kratom today!
It felt just like Vicodin to me. Kratom led me to the ER yesterday, and ruined 2 relationships for me; all within 1 week of using. My brain is still foggy and my vision is still blurry. The consequences don’t outweigh the euphoric high.
Shuts down your digestive system and makes you want to eat. Great combo.
Thanks so much for being honest, helps a lot to know others struggle too
I had someone very close that I don’t want to name to respect their privacy, but it turned them into a different person when they tried stopping altogether. No sleep, lashing out, talking as if seeing things that everyone else isn’t, literally clocking out mid conversation then coming back in 10 seconds… ultimately ended up in psychosis.
They’re doing a lot better now, but the psychosis could have also been related to the sleep he lost while quitting… it really is different for everyone, but there’s a reason it’s not monitored bc it’s almost unexplainable.
RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME…. I watched this person walk a marathon in 3 days
Thanks for being honest and open about it Andrew
I was this close to taking kratom. It was right after needing a break from bud because weed did to me exactly what you described it doing, and I’m at a point in my life where I seriously need to take charge and do what’s better for my life. But after a while I just wanted *something* for after work/weekends and I learned about kratom. However after doing research I had to be real with myself after realizing I have an addictive personality, and having an Opiate Lite (kratom) as an easily accessible option, that based off of others experience seems like it has a very similar outcome as weed did to me (lazy, super content with mediocrity, and weirdly okay with staying where I am in life), I decided not to do it. I appreciate you being real and sharing your experience man, good on you.
Every time I go for a longer walk with a friend I take 2 to 3 grams. I have never had the urge to take more. This happens about two times a month. I feel a slight euphoria and feel elated and talkative. But it could also just be the walking.
It definitely makes you more talkative. Doing anywhere from 1.5 - 3g is the best spot. and controlling yourself and never taking more than that is what makes it good. Anyone that takes over 10g a day and slowly increasing it is why it they negative effects.
I really appreciate you sharing your experience with kratom! You know my history and why I take it, but yeah, totally agree. If I didn't need it for pain, I wouldn't take it every day. Withdrawals for daily users are absolutely real, and that's something the kratom advocates are not honest about!!! I always tell people the good, the bad, and the ugly, and let them decide. Love you man!!
Restless legs, daytime sleepiness and anxiety were the worst symptoms to be of quitting kratom. Well I didnt quit I just went 3 weeks withouut it. Now I take it again but smaller doses.
You don't consider taking it again a relapse?
You really described how kratom makes me feel perfectly, or at least how it used to make me feel. The kid on Christmas analogy was on point, but also how it makes you overly content and destroys motivation. Been on it for about a year and a half now, I've tried getting off before but the experience was truly awful. How long did the withdrawals last for you, and do you feel like you're completely back to normal now? I'd love to hear more about your experience with it.
Thanks for this video man
I was meant to see this video, wasn't I..
I'm literally on it right now, I managed to scratch up my last 5 grams..
I've been doing it daily for 4-5 years.
I have 250 grams in the mail, but I won't have it for probably another week.
Thankfully I don't experience withdrawals when I run out.
I realize that it's a problem -- I realize what it's turned me into.
Remember experiencing Kratom for the first time? Gosh, it was magical.
But we never quite get that feeling again, do we? Always chasing the dragon.
I use it as a crutch, I don't do any other drugs, never have.
Yes, Kratom makes you "content" -- which is nice.
But if you remain "content" for too long.. things start to fall apart.
50g per day?? I can’t comprehend that. A tea spoon (2-6g?) mixed in water is more than enough for me. I’m 180cm / 87kg btw. I remember last summer I took maybe 2 teaspoons within a couple hours. I was going out on town to be chill and social without alcohol. Only I had to turn back home after 10 minutes because I started feeling dizzy, or rather like I’d lost contact with my nervous system and sense of balance. I couldn’t 100% trust myself not to collapse.
It does feel good though with the proper dosage. Especially if doing meditation 🧘
Did kratom from the year 2010 till 2024. Leafs, powders , capsules teas extracts.. I'm almost 30. So you do the math. It was a wild journey. But I'm finally off it and it's quite nice 👍❤ (still use it ,but very rarely like when I have a accident and get hurt or on vacation , super glad to have control over it finally )
Gabapentin is a good alternative without the side effects. It lasts 8 hours, it’s much healthier and much less addictive but has a similar body high
NGL I was a bit disappointed that the abrupt advert at the end there not being for kray tom
Proud of you always, Andrew x
Dude thanks for sharing this. It's a very selfless thing to do and I appreciated it a lot
Look up Psyched Substance. He is going thru the same thing and has a lot of incite on drug abuse
im struggling to get off kratom right now i feel you im getting the same side effects as you im tryin to ween myself off of it im down to 4grams. im also tryin to get off of phenibut too...im glad you made this video cause im on a kratom sttruggle
I use to combine kratom with phenibut. Shiii felt amazing
kratom is the same as an opiate. The drug works in the same way. The only thing that makes it less "intense" as other opiates is it is taken orally and has lower bioavailability then taking other opiates intranasally (snorting), smoking, or injecting.
I explain more in replies:
Also the reason why Crack cocaine is more intense then powder Cocaine, they are the same drug, Crack is just free-base Cocaine (enabling a lower melting temperature and thus the option of smoking the drug for better bioavailability than snorting, changing the subjective experience of doing the drug even though they do the exact same thing, there is no difference.
where's the replies, homie?
@@hammtron Well, youtube just decided to censor me for no reason... IDK wtf happened to my comments. I posted 2 replies and youtube just shadow-deleted them...
I quit for like a month and a half and it was actually awesome to be sober besides caffeine, but then I started again cause I fooled myself thinking I could just do it once every few days as a reward for work, now it’s been like almost 3 months on it and I’m about to quit again. Imma try working out and stretching especially my legs cus they be so restless.
This kinda feels like an Advert for Kratom. I get to feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!? Yes please!!
Lol . But is it like an upper or downer kinda thing? Sounds like K2 but I could be wrong
@@Peace.and.knowledge1it’s really not like k2 at all. It’s in between an upper and downer just like weed, it has some of both. Red vein is like the indica of kratom, green is like the hybrid, and white is like the sativa
I’d say it’s very nice to take now and then as something to relax, or even socialize on. But I would def recommend not taking it everyday, I do think it’s takes away your drive. I take it most days and I def want to cut down, because I just don’t feel as much drive taking it most days
I’d say it’s very nice to take now and then as something to relax, or even socialize on. But I would def recommend not taking it everyday, I do think it’s takes away your drive. I take it most days and I def want to cut down, because I just don’t feel as much drive taking it most days
Also start with a lower dose because if you go too high you’ll get nausea and that’s no fun 😅
You can experiment with this, but if you are young and inexperienced with life, you can easily become addicted. It is a recreational drug with no real benefit to improving your life as a whole besides making you feel euphoric for a few hours.
You're much better off getting your euphoria from a good diet, exercise, and seeing improvement in your career and relationships.
Just got off in November after about a decade. It’s been rough, but I’m starting to see the other side.
I have tried it. I ordered a green powder that you mix with water and drink. It tasted like ass and made me gag while drinking it. Its like drinking green bitter beach-sand. But it made me feel great. Everything i did became more enjoyable. I was happier while on it, it made me want to do things instead of just sit and scroll on youtube etc. But it was very hard to sleep on it, totally ruined my sleep schedule. Never got addicted though, due to it being so disgusting to drink.
Thanks for sharing homie
Thats awful to think you'd get back on it if you were retired. Stay strong and try to stay sober. I luckily never tried Kratom. Used to be a major pothead and nic addict.
I never had a problem as long as I stuck to the plant matter powder only. Once you start taking all the concentrated versions they make then you're getting into having withdrawal if you just stopped cold. Versus I cannot take it after taking it for a month straight and just have a little sweaty of a sleep one night and that's it. Other than that I've never had an issue with side effects. It usually gives me energy all day if I just take it in the morning and at lunch. I've been taking it for 5 years Monday through Friday and just not on the weekend.
I've used it for a year+ or so, 1-2x a month. Wouldn't say I'm addicted, and I can't see how people can become addicted.. unless you've got nothing going on with your life. It just makes me tired/high, but then there's other things I'd rather take to get tired or high - doesnt help that its one of the worst tasting things ever.
So I guess it depends on your life situation, mental health and what you want to gain/how you want to feel using it for you to get addicted.
I remember you talking about kratom on video or stream a good few years ago. Sorry it hit you so hard. Well done staying clean.
You got me into DMT 10 years ago but Kratom isn't something I'll be doing for another 40 years
thank you for this video
You should do a trip to Scandinavian (Norway, Sweden and Denmark) and do vlogs!
I almost went down this path until I threw it all up one day in my car, all over myself. A little bit traumatic. Never took it again.
i've been testing out kratom since september...I haven't taken more than like 6 mg a day. maybe once I took 12mg but I didn't enjoy it as much. I think u can dabble in this stuff as long as you keep it below 12 mg and don't do it that much. maybe do it for a few days in a row and then take a break for a couple weeks. do a little drinking instead for a while. nothing like a good beer, some homemade wine. but u gotta have enough good things going on in ur sober life that are more gratifying so you aren't attached to a substance. thats prob the trick to beating any substance. I will prob always dabble in things or at least have a drink now and then
It's not really a thing where I live. We used to have a pretty crazy free for all for legal drugs, but they clamped down really hard like 10-15 years ago. I've never tried it and never known anyone that has tried it.
The restless leg syndrome on the withdrawal sounds absolutely brutal. If I started, I would just keep taking it until i die to avoid that.
love u andrew, stay up bb!
Sounds like you only tried Red Vein Kratom? White/ Green vein is pretty uplifting for me. I like to take it with a 220 mg caffeine capsule. I buy the powder online and mix it with some water and creatine before the gym. It also helps me with anxiety and insomnia. Works pretty nice but im not gonna lie im def kinda addicted to it now. I appreciate your honesty tho, i know i will have to get off of it at some time, and it does worry me sometimes. If i dont take it for a day or two now i def start to get a runny nose and my mood gets pretty crappy.
6:40 & on
That's true addiction lol the amount of times I've done this or made deals with myself. Sucks knowing you gotta live the rest of your life knowing you'll never feel what's in your mind " the best feeling in world " ever again.
The only thing that worked for me is cold turkey, I have such an addictive personality. Weed withdrawal was terrible, nicotine also, but personally the worst was caffeine. Also video games. Im still vaping, probably way to much, but at least its keeping me away from weed and alcohol.
Sometimes I want to blame society for pushing people to use substances, but ultimately its all on me.
I know PsychedSubstance also struggles with addiction to Kratom, might be a good guy to listen/talk to about it
What I like about cannabis is more than just the drug itself - you can become a connoisseur for fine weed the same way you can with fine liquors or wines, you can become an enthusiast with high-end vaporizers and other methods of consumption, you can engage in cannabis tourism by visiting places with top notch dispensaries, and you can use it socially to share different strains and elevate your interactions with other people. So for me, it's more than just a drug - it's also a hobby, a pastime, and a lifestyle.
Not sure if any of that applies to Kratom, but I'm guessing not.
Weed & liquor enthusiasts are annoying af lol
Watching this while im Loaded on Kratom... relapsed yesterday 😑 feel sooo relaxed but
I moved from opiates to kratom, it helped me tremendously to quit, now I'm trying to move from kratom to meditation, kratom is a great tool
I tried it and did not like it at all. Well at first it seemed nice for a day. But I swear for the next 3 days I was overly stressed and kind of anxious. I threw the rest away.
Same experience. 2 hours of fun for 2 days of awful, no thanks. Phenibut is 100x better but tolerance comes quick, also doesn’t take as much edge off but makes you more lively instead of vegged imo.
ok you convinced me to go and get some :)
Interesting I didn't feel it too much or be addicted at all. How much were you taking?
I tried it and threw up everywhere and had a raging headache
I've tried it a few times, I enjoyed it but as you said it makes me a bit lazy. Even tho they arent an everyday thing mushrooms are kinda that medium but more energy.
im glad u see the problem Andrew and stop it i had something similar with weed since 11 yo
miss the day i just get in here to see beautiful girls
Damn brotha. I been addicted for years and have been on the extracts pills and goddamn they're good, but bad. Extremely addictive, I used to do capsules but these are in a whole other league. To me it feels almost impossible to quit on my own bc Im physically and mentally dependent on them to work and I'm a culinary manager in a goddamn bonefish grill so I work all the time. I want to get off them and rid myself bc the financial issues are killing me but I can't stop unless I found a way to go to detox, I get very fucking sick if I don't have them, so I will go to extreme lengths to make sure I have what I need. It's fucked. Don't EVER TRY THE EXTRACTS. 7OH is the worstly, so addictive.
Wish you the best though man.
Video/vlog idea/way to stay clean: hike the Appalachian trail
Just don't hangout in the shelters lol
Andrew I have a question , since you are on adderall wouldnt that not mix well?