Going over some comments about the tractors on the farm and showing a new piece of equipment that was just delivered. #farming #tractor #agriculture #farmequipment
Nice Rake! Back in 92 as we moved farms, Dad was VERY happy to get rid of square baler for the 530 Hesston round baler, we had bought a round bale feeding barn. 1 bale each side. Roll them out. And it was EASY! Surprisingly.
That’s right it never hurts to have over kill on the hills especially when you feel something pushing you around, and you usually got your kids with you too so always better to be on the safe side.
Going with round bails and using equipment to handle them is the smarter way to go. 10-15-20 years from now I'm sure you won't want to be in the barn handling small square bails! It's a tough job and a young man's job and like you said finding young people to help is hard in today's world! Beautiful new rake!! 👍😎
My neighbor has a wheel rake. We were working on a field next to the one he was raking so he stopped by to chat. Says he got his to put a lot of hay in a row fast but he likes our windrows a lot better
Everyone has their own way of farming there is still a need for small bales if you sell Hay to horse Farm's and goats but I'm sure it's hard to find the help I worked on a farm 50 plus years ago and couldn't always find help
Ahh who cares what others think? You guys do what works for you. Not everything works the same for everyone. Gotta love these keyboard princesses.. I’ve used a miller pro double rake (yes you can split them up if need be) and I’ve used a Kuhn double rotary rake.. I liked them both… they both have their pros, & cons. Great video I’d vote 4960… lol it’s my favorite! Happy belated Father’s Day
Never used one of them rakes personally but have baled for many guys with them and they do a great job of raking they make a nice tall fluffy windrow! If you have a mow convayor dont stack in the barn just let them fall, cows dont care if their not in perfect shape!
You don't have a huge operation, so I'd say you made a good purchase with the rake. It's 2 or 3 foot bigger so it's still a time upgrade. Plus you can square bale behind it. You are the one writing the checks so forget what other people say.
Nothing wrong with that rake, my uncle had a rollbar rake it it worked great for his operation because we use a Super M for raking. I agree that round bales are the only way to go. When my uncle switched there was a learning curve, but once dailed in, we knocked out the acres.
@billpollock1763 I joke ound but I really don't have an issue with red. The closest reliable red/blue dealership for parts and service is whites farm supply which is an hour away or Clinton tractor which is a little over an hour. John deere is 25 minutes north and another one 25 minutes south
That makes all the difference. Our closest dealer was Massey Ferguson, but the dealership never had any inventory of equipment or parts, otherwise it would have been a MF all the way.
when people do not see the whole lay of the land they will not understand why you use a bigger tractor to run different equipment with the lay of your land bigger is better in many cases
Great Video Mike, The key with your farm is you are doing many different tractor functions throughout the year rather than long seasonal runs, stick to what you want to do, thanks for sharing
Can confirm, that rake is more impressive in person. I haven’t had enough coffee yet, so hopefully this makes sense, but that chopper that photobombed your video is a perfect allegory to what people expect on farms today. You can’t go on social media today and not see huge equipment rolling through the fields. Not that we don’t do our part to showcase the smaller farms and older equipment, but the shiny new ones get the algorithm going. I’m actually surprised that no one has suggested you get all your fieldwork custom done. Maybe I can be a trendsetter here 🤔 People also forget that what works for one farm, might not work for another farm. I mean, they’re farms right? Can’t be all that different 😏😂 My personal opinion, instead of a 7810, you guys should be looking for an International 2+2, really cause a dumpster fire in the comments 😂
I've had people say we should get things custom done. I've been told we shouldn't have gotten our combine and that we could get our harvesting custom done and I've been told I shouldn't have gotten the round baler and we should just keep getting that custom done.....I'm glad we didn't go that route
Nice looking rake Mike! We borrowed our neighbors double rotary rake and loved it, except the price tag. We opted for a 10 wheel v rake to fit our budget. It works well for us. Always enjoy your insight. -Mark
Nice vid... well explained.... that we are all different 😜🤣.. keep up the great work... glad Kuhn equipment if becoming part of the farms future.. stay safe 🏴
People that don't write the checks have the best ideas! I had a twinstar double rake on the farm. It was overkill,and i didn't mind a bit! Lol! Have fun,great vid!
When I sold the farm,my machinery went to the jd dealer. The twin star was there a day and sold. They are very popular on the west coast with the heavy hay there
Those big center pivot mowers can really push you around. I've had to upshift to keep a 946 (behind a 7810!) from passing me on a slope in heavy dew. Nothing replaces weight to keep you in place. Nice rake, and it should balance between the small square baler and the round baler. It's a sad time when a pretty daughter can't even get boys to show up to work.😞 1 of mine married a fine young man that kept showing up to help!
@@mikep7810 Some of mine did, too! 🤣 You know that you are doing it right that way! The only "keeper" so far runs his own business, but was taken aback when he showed my daughter his 24hp Kubota tractor. He didn't realize she had driven a JD 7800 when she was about 5 years old... 🤣🤣🤣 Daughters can make you proud! 👍👍
@@mikep7810 You are a lucky man to have them, especially in this world we live in. None of my 4 have ever disappointed me, so far. (I will say "so far" until they are 40, just to remind them) Keep at it, my friend! Those girls will always love you.
Tell your dad times have changed people shouldn't be doing that labor anymore there are hay bale accumulators. I did that labor as a kid and will not do it again. Nice rack Mike!!! thx
A rotery rake does a lot better job kicking over heavy hay than a wheel rake. Don't worry about other people's comments about the way you spend your money on equipment. Most are probaly part time farmers. Makes a lot of difference makeing a living as a full time farmer. Especially a dairy farmer.
I'd say just farm your way my friend don't the keyboard farmers get to ya . Mainly because how do they even know why you make the decisions you make lol oh my . Love your stuff buddy
Don"t trade in, but yah probably time to start shopping for additional tractors. Start watching Kaz. I"ve seen some nice tractors at Randall Bros. Equipment on line, from Ohio.
It's your $ and u can spend it on wht u feel is best and within your budget :)!!! .. looks like a great purchase to go along with the baler etc and those companies do make the baler and hay rake etc too work together with measurements etc overall :)! Farm 🚜 on !!!
I like the extra hydraulic features on that new Kuhn.👌 We picked up a new rotary rake to pair up with our 15 year old one, if we want we can both go rake. I'd also like some version of a double rotary, but unless you're doing custom work, I don't know how to justify a nearly $40,000 rake, and even good used ones aren't that cheap.
You don't have to justify your decisions. You have to use and pay for the stuff. I love the double rake my job has, but I don't make the payments , and we only roll hay. Perhaps getting a quick attach loader for one of the tractors you have would be handy, or maybe not. Your place, and your wallet. You also need not worry so much,I think you have raised your daughters to be smart and safe.👍👍
@@mikep7810 My job has 6 tractors of different sizes and ages that have loaders and mounts. Some don't get taken off, 1 rarely has a loader on, but the option is always there. I can hook up in about 5 minutes, faster with the newer units, and detach in the same time. Only problem is JD changing the mounts and models more often than when they had the 245/265/280 models and before. The engineers and designers don't use the stuff. 🙄
Awesome job! You guys are doing a great job and works for you, is best!! We do a very similar system on our farm on our side of the state! Love a rotary rake in the near future
I'm pretty old school myself but with round bales I'm sure I can come around. If you have 2 rakes you maybe can use both at the same time. Really get ahead of the rain (kinda like how this year is going.) Shoot maybe get your son in it when he is ready. Otherwise Grumpy can come and help 😂. Money on hand always answers the questions.
It appears that the 2940 lacks wheel weights whereas both the 4040 and 4055 have been equipped with rear wheel weights which undoubtedly gives them an extra weight advantage. At 4:50 of that video you acknowledge that the 2940 must of have been on the blower back in the day. Why is that not feasible now? For our tractors, I built a couple of 3ph weight bars that will allow the lighter tractors to get that extra weight when they need to be used in a short-handed situation.
The 2940 has the heavier wheels on it. I'm not sure what the weight of the tractor has to do with running it on the blower. Yes we did use it back in the day when that's all we had. I have a question for you Carl. What tractor do you think would run the blower better. An 80 HP tractor, a 100 HP tractor, or a 120 HP tractor?
I have 3 wheel rakes a v8 a v10 and a 4 wheel 3 point there ok but a rotary be much better. Rotary is on wish list wheel rakes don't always pickup all the hay
Your awesome mate 👍 like the new rake I think it suits your farm A loader tractor would be a great idea hay u can take loader off and just use tractor if u needed or would it be possible to put loader on one of your tractors? I agree about that tractor for mowing might be a little big BUT if it's more Stable on the hills and safer then use it Take care have a great safe harvest 🙏👍
Yes a lot of soundguards. We've talked about upgrading the 2940 to a 6000 series. Honestly we don't have a lot of jobs that would require a 6000 series tractor.
Mike you do you. We couldn't justify the price of rotary rakes. As for quality of job depends on rake setup. As for hours on a tractor who cares. We use the best tractor for the job. We buy our tractors to use not sit around because we don't want to get to many hours on them. All our tractors are 2000 to 10000 hours anyway 😅
When someone else starts paying the bills and buying the equipment, then they can tell you what equipmemt to buy😁. Use what suits you and your Dad. Nice rake though. When are you getting a merger????
You mentioned it, but do you guys see a lot of wear/maintenance on the rotary rakes? Would love to try a double rotary but just can't justify the price.
We've had the older one for many years and I bought it used. Still runs and rakes hay really good. Lot of moving parts so its good to keep things greased
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Nice Rake! Back in 92 as we moved farms, Dad was VERY happy to get rid of square baler for the 530 Hesston round baler, we had bought a round bale feeding barn. 1 bale each side. Roll them out. And it was EASY! Surprisingly.
I bet you actually looked forward to making hay after getting the round baler
"That is why we live in this great country called America where you have thefreedomofchoicetodowhateveryouwant!"
I should have took into consideration that not everyone who watching lives in America though
Agree everyone has to do what works for them. I love wheel rakes H&S 14 wheel here.
That’s right it never hurts to have over kill on the hills especially when you feel something pushing you around, and you usually got your kids with you too so always better to be on the safe side.
Very true. Especially when watching the kids and having them ride along
Going with round bails and using equipment to handle them is the smarter way to go. 10-15-20 years from now I'm sure you won't want to be in the barn handling small square bails! It's a tough job and a young man's job and like you said finding young people to help is hard in today's world! Beautiful new rake!! 👍😎
Thanks Dennis. I'm really happy going to more round bales
I’m surprised the farm doesn’t have a bigger tractor than the 4555 on the farm .
How big of a tractor should I have?
Double rotor rake would be a bit much for the small square baler.👍
We still double up rows for the square baler. It eats the hay pretty good
Wheel rake is cheap. That’s why I got one. I think those rotary are easier on the hay from not losing leaves
My neighbor has a wheel rake. We were working on a field next to the one he was raking so he stopped by to chat. Says he got his to put a lot of hay in a row fast but he likes our windrows a lot better
Everyone has their own way of farming there is still a need for small bales if you sell Hay to horse Farm's and goats but I'm sure it's hard to find the help I worked on a farm 50 plus years ago and couldn't always find help
We still plan on square baling all 2nd cutting and straw
I understand your reasoning it makes sense!!
Thanks Dennis
Yes, run what works for you guys, some people don’t realize the hills we have here in NY.
Same here in southern Michigan
Yeah some of these hills can make you nervous
You mean there is more to New York than New York City 😂
Ahh who cares what others think? You guys do what works for you. Not everything works the same for everyone. Gotta love these keyboard princesses.. I’ve used a miller pro double rake (yes you can split them up if need be) and I’ve used a Kuhn double rotary rake.. I liked them both… they both have their pros, & cons. Great video I’d vote 4960… lol it’s my favorite! Happy belated Father’s Day
Thank you Rick. Same to you.
Any rotary rake is worth it. I love my GT 3200.
I definitely love the rotary rake
Nice rake Mike
Thank you Matt
You guys must’ve “Raked” in the savings the rake 🤣
Haha that's a good one Clint. Kuhn was actually offering a rebate
@@mikep7810 nice!
Never used one of them rakes personally but have baled for many guys with them and they do a great job of raking they make a nice tall fluffy windrow!
If you have a mow convayor dont stack in the barn just let them fall, cows dont care if their not in perfect shape!
They do make a really nice windrow
You don't have a huge operation, so I'd say you made a good purchase with the rake. It's 2 or 3 foot bigger so it's still a time upgrade. Plus you can square bale behind it. You are the one writing the checks so forget what other people say.
Thank you. I think it will work out really well
Good video , Do what works for you. By the way you're awesome.
Thank you Doug!
Nothing wrong with that rake, my uncle had a rollbar rake it it worked great for his operation because we use a Super M for raking. I agree that round bales are the only way to go. When my uncle switched there was a learning curve, but once dailed in, we knocked out the acres.
Yeah, just what we've baled so far this year I keep thinking if we were going all square bales we'd still be on the 2nd field
Also if you are open to running red IH tractor, hydros are great for picking round bales .
@billpollock1763 I joke ound but I really don't have an issue with red. The closest reliable red/blue dealership for parts and service is whites farm supply which is an hour away or Clinton tractor which is a little over an hour. John deere is 25 minutes north and another one 25 minutes south
That makes all the difference. Our closest dealer was Massey Ferguson, but the dealership never had any inventory of equipment or parts, otherwise it would have been a MF all the way.
when people do not see the whole lay of the land they will not understand why you use a bigger tractor to run different equipment with the lay of your land bigger is better in many cases
Very well put
Great Video Mike, The key with your farm is you are doing many different tractor functions throughout the year rather than long seasonal runs, stick to what you want to do, thanks for sharing
Thanks Tony. Glad you enjoyed the video
You keep doing you!! You and your Dad do a great job. Happy Father's Day
Thank you Greg
You ARE awesome
I screen shot this! 😉😊😊
A 4555 2wd would look good next to your MFWD one, especially since you said your dad loves the 2wd life.
That would be a nice tractor for sure
Hello everyone great vidéo thanks mike
Thank you
Nice looking rake.
What works for you and your farm is all that matters.
Thank you Mark
I like the hat
Its a really slick hat, I'm surprised I haven't been mugged for it!
Can confirm, that rake is more impressive in person.
I haven’t had enough coffee yet, so hopefully this makes sense, but that chopper that photobombed your video is a perfect allegory to what people expect on farms today. You can’t go on social media today and not see huge equipment rolling through the fields. Not that we don’t do our part to showcase the smaller farms and older equipment, but the shiny new ones get the algorithm going.
I’m actually surprised that no one has suggested you get all your fieldwork custom done. Maybe I can be a trendsetter here 🤔
People also forget that what works for one farm, might not work for another farm. I mean, they’re farms right? Can’t be all that different 😏😂
My personal opinion, instead of a 7810, you guys should be looking for an International 2+2, really cause a dumpster fire in the comments 😂
I've had people say we should get things custom done. I've been told we shouldn't have gotten our combine and that we could get our harvesting custom done and I've been told I shouldn't have gotten the round baler and we should just keep getting that custom done.....I'm glad we didn't go that route
Nice looking rake Mike! We borrowed our neighbors double rotary rake and loved it, except the price tag. We opted for a 10 wheel v rake to fit our budget. It works well for us. Always enjoy your insight.
-Mark
Thanks Mark. I think the double rotaries would be great to have, its the price tag that keeps us away too
Awesome video. Everybody’s operations are different use what’s best for yours. Happy Father’s Day Mike
Thank you Scott
Nice vid... well explained.... that we are all different 😜🤣.. keep up the great work... glad Kuhn equipment if becoming part of the farms future.. stay safe 🏴
Thank you Ian. I'm a big fan of Kuhn equipment
Happy Father’s Day mike 🐓🐄🐄. I think the new rake looks good and will work great for your operation. Always good to upgrade when your able to
Thanks Jeff. I think its going to be a great addition
Can’t wait to see that jd 7810 rolling into your farm next
People that don't write the checks have the best ideas! I had a twinstar double rake on the farm. It was overkill,and i didn't mind a bit! Lol! Have fun,great vid!
Thanks Gene. Maybe someday we go that route but today wasn't that day
When I sold the farm,my machinery went to the jd dealer. The twin star was there a day and sold. They are very popular on the west coast with the heavy hay there
Those big center pivot mowers can really push you around. I've had to upshift to keep a 946 (behind a 7810!) from passing me on a slope in heavy dew. Nothing replaces weight to keep you in place. Nice rake, and it should balance between the small square baler and the round baler. It's a sad time when a pretty daughter can't even get boys to show up to work.😞 1 of mine married a fine young man that kept showing up to help!
Thanks Morgan. Those girls can get plenty of boys to show up, trouble is those girls out work those boys
@@mikep7810 Some of mine did, too! 🤣 You know that you are doing it right that way! The only "keeper" so far runs his own business, but was taken aback when he showed my daughter his 24hp Kubota tractor. He didn't realize she had driven a JD 7800 when she was about 5 years old... 🤣🤣🤣 Daughters can make you proud! 👍👍
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj That's true. Both those girls make me extremely proud!
@@mikep7810 You are a lucky man to have them, especially in this world we live in. None of my 4 have ever disappointed me, so far. (I will say "so far" until they are 40, just to remind them) Keep at it, my friend! Those girls will always love you.
Tell your dad times have changed people shouldn't be doing that labor anymore there are hay bale accumulators. I did that labor as a kid and will not do it again. Nice rack Mike!!!
thx
Thank you. For first cutting we are letting the wheel loader do all the lifting and stacking
A rotery rake does a lot better job kicking over heavy hay than a wheel rake. Don't worry about other people's comments about the way you spend your money on equipment. Most are probaly part time farmers. Makes a lot of difference makeing a living as a full time farmer. Especially a dairy farmer.
Thanks Andy.
I'd say just farm your way my friend don't the keyboard farmers get to ya . Mainly because how do they even know why you make the decisions you make lol oh my . Love your stuff buddy
Thanks Travis. No one was being bad, just clearing up some questions from a previous video
Don"t trade in, but yah probably time to start shopping for additional tractors. Start watching Kaz. I"ve seen some nice tractors at Randall Bros. Equipment on line, from Ohio.
Now that Caz is SN Partners out of Missouri it opens up a whole other inventory out in Missouri and Illinois
It's your $ and u can spend it on wht u feel is best and within your budget :)!!! .. looks like a great purchase to go along with the baler etc and those companies do make the baler and hay rake etc too work together with measurements etc overall :)! Farm 🚜 on !!!
Thank you Julius
I like the extra hydraulic features on that new Kuhn.👌
We picked up a new rotary rake to pair up with our 15 year old one, if we want we can both go rake.
I'd also like some version of a double rotary, but unless you're doing custom work, I don't know how to justify a nearly $40,000 rake, and even good used ones aren't that cheap.
I agree. The double rakes I have found that were priced decent all had "need some work" in the description
You don't have to justify your decisions. You have to use and pay for the stuff. I love the double rake my job has, but I don't make the payments , and we only roll hay. Perhaps getting a quick attach loader for one of the tractors you have would be handy, or maybe not. Your place, and your wallet. You also need not worry so much,I think you have raised your daughters to be smart and safe.👍👍
I think thats what route we are going to go is get a quick attach loader for a tractor
@@mikep7810 My job has 6 tractors of different sizes and ages that have loaders and mounts. Some don't get taken off, 1 rarely has a loader on, but the option is always there. I can hook up in about 5 minutes, faster with the newer units, and detach in the same time. Only problem is JD changing the mounts and models more often than when they had the 245/265/280 models and before. The engineers and designers don't use the stuff. 🙄
That rake will do a cleaner job! We used the miller pro rake very nice!
Thanks Andy. They do a great job for sure
Let's see the new rake in action, J Martin had a farm sale with a 7810 up this way.
You will see it in action pretty soon. I better get some of these new purchases paid for first
Awesome job! You guys are doing a great job and works for you, is best!! We do a very similar system on our farm on our side of the state! Love a rotary rake in the near future
Thank you Jerry
I'm pretty old school myself but with round bales I'm sure I can come around. If you have 2 rakes you maybe can use both at the same time. Really get ahead of the rain (kinda like how this year is going.) Shoot maybe get your son in it when he is ready. Otherwise Grumpy can come and help 😂. Money on hand always answers the questions.
Haha I'd love to have grumpy stop by for a visit. We could make a video petting cows
@@mikep7810 hahaha 🤣
Having the 4 wheel drive would make me feel safer as well. I know how scary it is being pushed by equipment down a hill.
Yeah I think its a good move
It appears that the 2940 lacks wheel weights whereas both the 4040 and 4055 have been equipped with rear wheel weights which undoubtedly gives them an extra weight advantage. At 4:50 of that video you acknowledge that the 2940 must of have been on the blower back in the day. Why is that not feasible now? For our tractors, I built a couple of 3ph weight bars that will allow the lighter tractors to get that extra weight when they need to be used in a short-handed situation.
The 2940 has the heavier wheels on it. I'm not sure what the weight of the tractor has to do with running it on the blower. Yes we did use it back in the day when that's all we had. I have a question for you Carl. What tractor do you think would run the blower better. An 80 HP tractor, a 100 HP tractor, or a 120 HP tractor?
Hey Mike. You ARE awesome. But what you really need is a double rotary rake!!😂😂😂. Just kidding buddy. I had to do it lol
Haha I agree, it had to be done
I have 3 wheel rakes a v8 a v10 and a 4 wheel 3 point there ok but a rotary be much better. Rotary is on wish list wheel rakes don't always pickup all the hay
It would be interesting to try one someday
Your awesome mate 👍 like the new rake I think it suits your farm
A loader tractor would be a great idea hay u can take loader off and just use tractor if u needed or would it be possible to put loader on one of your tractors?
I agree about that tractor for mowing might be a little big BUT if it's more Stable on the hills and safer then use it
Take care have a great safe harvest 🙏👍
Thank you. I think we might look to grab a loader and put it on the 4040 for the summer
Hi Mike, Great vid. I noticed a lot of 40's, 50's and 55's. Awesome tractors. Why no 6000 series?
Yes a lot of soundguards. We've talked about upgrading the 2940 to a 6000 series. Honestly we don't have a lot of jobs that would require a 6000 series tractor.
Nice video Mike 👍👍👍
Thank you John
trouble these days is you cant text and unload hay at the same time and nice rake
Thanks Dana. Its a different time that's for sure
Nice Rake Mike!I've got the pequeu (or however it's spelled🤣)gotta take the front wheels off for heavy hay...keep the windows from getting to big
Thank you Chris. I think its going to be a great addition
Mike you do you. We couldn't justify the price of rotary rakes. As for quality of job depends on rake setup. As for hours on a tractor who cares. We use the best tractor for the job. We buy our tractors to use not sit around because we don't want to get to many hours on them. All our tractors are 2000 to 10000 hours anyway 😅
I agree. We buy the tractors to work not to be stored as low houred tractors
The mower I ran like that you need a heavier tractor for the mower
I agree
H8 Mike p Happy Father's Day is your sound on
Thank you Amanda. Yes it is on
You are welcome mike p
You would love a 8100 mfwd, but more $$$$
That would be a nice tractor
When someone else starts paying the bills and buying the equipment, then they can tell you what equipmemt to buy😁. Use what suits you and your Dad. Nice rake though. When are you getting a merger????
I was hoping my buddy would get a double rotary rake cause he said if he got one he would sell his merger. That would be a nice addition
👀🙄🐾👍Did you not think about a 3 point linkage version of the gyro rake stick with 4 wheel drive tractors / Front wheel assist makes like safer
We don't run the lift arms on the 2940 or 4040 so the trailed unit is a good fit for us
I see a 7810 in your future
I like your future outlook!
Why not get a merger. Just a question. What is the difference.
A new merger is more money then this rake
You mentioned it, but do you guys see a lot of wear/maintenance on the rotary rakes? Would love to try a double rotary but just can't justify the price.
We've had the older one for many years and I bought it used. Still runs and rakes hay really good. Lot of moving parts so its good to keep things greased
Which tractor did you get from Andy Hourigan?
The 4040 at the end of the video