They probably use a reflection sensor to detect if it's run out of paper. My guess it the sensor is probably on right side near the carriage holder and it either checks it only once at the start or on every pass. You could try and lay a line of regular masking tape on one side and see if the printer will take the brown paper.
Interesting note on your cut sheet stuff. I don't know what size cut sheets you usually print, but I just use a Pro-1000 for cut sheets and only run roll paper through the larger printers.
Recently got the Canon Pro-2600 myself. Setup was very similar, but a little lighter of course. I've been using ImagePrint Black for many years, and for the past 15 years on an Epson 4880 with great success. I am really enjoying the Canon with IP, and look forward to your posts and discoveries on the Canon. I DID get the 2nd roll holder for my Pro-2600 and like to have two papers ready to go. Also, I use a Graphtec 7000-60 24" cutter with ImagePrint's CutItOut feature for when I have a ton of 8x10 or smaller prints to make. Liked and subscribed -
I am moving away from Epson (9000), to the Canon pro-6600. Have always used Imageprint. Curious to know your experiences with IP and Canon! How is the black and white printing with the Canon and IimagePrint? Does IP take care of the overcoat as well? Curious to know how IP takes care of that
@@MrJschone I've done a little B&W - not much, though. It seems quite neutral - no color cast that I can detect. I considered sticking with Epson and going with the P5370, but for not all that much more I got a significantly more capable (and significantly bigger) printer than my old Epson 4880. I've had just so many "clogs from hell" on the Epson printers I've had, and I didn't want to take the chance of getting in the same boat. I had seen some IP videos on the new Canon printers and was impressed. I reached out to John at IP and asked his opinion for what would work best with IP - he said that the Canons "just work." I have to say that I agree, and highly recommend the new Canon line and ImagePrint Black. I also asked about the overcoat management and IP does manage it by type of paper and inkset, and you can, under the Advanced tab in IP13's Print quality section, have CO cover the whole print instead of just the inked area (according to John). Reach out to him - he's been really helpful over the 15 years I've worked with him. You should probably ask him what's required to update (new dongle?). I had to increase my subscription from the 17" version to the 24" version. Ouch - but worth it.
Looking forward to printing vis to come. I'm just a little surprised you aren't making your own printer/paper profiles yourself. $$$ wise, it might not be worth the cost to purchase the equipment to do so. Mind me asking what it cost to get a profile made? Thank you for any replies.
I made profiles for decades- still have all the equipment- I would speeds weeks tweaking the GCR and other settings but this was on the D’Vinci where I have total control over dot placement, screening and transitions etc … no company allows that kind of interaction these days as most systems are pretty locked down compared to the early 2000’s. I tested all the paper for Canson and was a Hahnemühle Master Printer- did work and made profiles for so many but it’s exhausting and not where I want my time to be spent these days. So when I did a deep dive into the new Black software I looked and looked and was just impressed by the interface and quality of the profiles- and they support a lot of paper right out the door. Profiles with Image Print red or black are just included - color and BW and you can even send paper and they will make profiles for it. I should also mention I am not sponsored by them or any company and purchased all the printer and software so these are my thoughts.
@ Thanks. Way more advance for my knowledge. I was thinking more on the lines of the upper end XRite device. I can understand you rather spend your time elsware. I only use a Ava on Pro 100 for now. Went thru a couple of Canson Inffinity sample paper packs. Some very nice paper & probably don’t need to look any further than them. I now have a couple of Red River sample packs & want to try Moab & Hahnemule also. Thanks for the reply, enjoy your new printer.
Congrats on the dream machine! I tried downloading the test print from your website, the same one you show in the video, but there is no active link for it.
Steve - Great news. I am excited to see more content on printing. I just upgraded a dead Epson 3880 with the P900. Still giving Epson a go. Also - re: the print target you used. I could not find a clickable like for the one you used. I was able to download the FinalTestTarget2022, but not the other one. I'm probably missing something or just not "hovering" in the correct spot. Any guidance? Thanks again for all you do and share. Always valuable.
@@FIGITALREVOLUTION I can't imagine any 3 shades of black/gray ink coming close to what 11 shades of black/gray can do. The quality difference in B&W images of my 9900 with piezopro versus my P9000 with Epson ink is huge.
actually it all comes down to the paper you are printing on... for your works / style on your bryta paper yes the cone inks can produce a lot of grey tonality. I have run a lot of BW on the P9000 using ImagePrint black and was shocked at just how good it was.... now in this printer it has a gloss optimizer options that just smooths out the whole printed area.
I'm not sure if anyone has informed you. You can make your custom paper calibration right from the machine using Canon's software. Welcome to the Canon Pro printer family.
Yeah I know that but the issue is the hand coated paper has a brown edge that transitions to white which the printer does not like- have spoken with the techs and they are looking to see if this is something that can have the option to turn off- Epson is fine with this but the Canon at the moment is not. Time will tell--
try disabling width detection. I called Canon when my 4100 would reject paper that was printed on already. I figure if I'm going to pay $3,000 for a printer, I want to print anywhere I feel like. Now I can.
Nice just chatting with you- as I mentioned the width detection is off but it is rather an issue of how the brown paper is hand coated- it has about a 1” brown edge followed by white and brown on the other side- the change in brown to white is making it think there is no paper loaded or not loaded to the proper registration point. Canon is looking into it….
Beautiful! Looks like a lovely studio space with great light.
Exciting day. Congratulations!
Thank you!!
Thanks as always, Steve. I'm looking forward to your print-centric videos. I mainly use my P900 for digital negs, but sometimes I do print images. ✌️
Very excited for you! Will enjoy seeing what you produce with it.
I am getting Crocodile Dundee vibes "that is not a printer , this is a printer " 😀 It is an amazing bit of kit be great to see what you can do with it
They probably use a reflection sensor to detect if it's run out of paper. My guess it the sensor is probably on right side near the carriage holder and it either checks it only once at the start or on every pass. You could try and lay a line of regular masking tape on one side and see if the printer will take the brown paper.
I think it is every pass so I am working on a workaround
Interesting note on your cut sheet stuff. I don't know what size cut sheets you usually print, but I just use a Pro-1000 for cut sheets and only run roll paper through the larger printers.
I still do that with thick rag paper. I'm doing more thinner-cut sheets in my pro-2000. Still runs great.
Recently got the Canon Pro-2600 myself. Setup was very similar, but a little lighter of course. I've been using ImagePrint Black for many years, and for the past 15 years on an Epson 4880 with great success. I am really enjoying the Canon with IP, and look forward to your posts and discoveries on the Canon. I DID get the 2nd roll holder for my Pro-2600 and like to have two papers ready to go. Also, I use a Graphtec 7000-60 24" cutter with ImagePrint's CutItOut feature for when I have a ton of 8x10 or smaller prints to make. Liked and subscribed -
I am moving away from Epson (9000), to the Canon pro-6600. Have always used Imageprint. Curious to know your experiences with IP and Canon! How is the black and white printing with the Canon and IimagePrint? Does IP take care of the overcoat as well? Curious to know how IP takes care of that
@@MrJschone I've done a little B&W - not much, though. It seems quite neutral - no color cast that I can detect. I considered sticking with Epson and going with the P5370, but for not all that much more I got a significantly more capable (and significantly bigger) printer than my old Epson 4880. I've had just so many "clogs from hell" on the Epson printers I've had, and I didn't want to take the chance of getting in the same boat. I had seen some IP videos on the new Canon printers and was impressed. I reached out to John at IP and asked his opinion for what would work best with IP - he said that the Canons "just work." I have to say that I agree, and highly recommend the new Canon line and ImagePrint Black. I also asked about the overcoat management and IP does manage it by type of paper and inkset, and you can, under the Advanced tab in IP13's Print quality section, have CO cover the whole print instead of just the inked area (according to John). Reach out to him - he's been really helpful over the 15 years I've worked with him. You should probably ask him what's required to update (new dongle?). I had to increase my subscription from the 17" version to the 24" version. Ouch - but worth it.
Steve - Also great to see that you can still do the work of 3 people.
Was feeling it today for sure!
Hey boss. I have this printer showing up in the next week. Would love to hear how you're liking it and would love to pick your brain on it.
Yep
@@FIGITALREVOLUTION if i wanted to print on epson exhibition canvas satin, but epson and canon do not make a icc for it, how would i go about it?
@ find a similar canvas profile that more specifically matches the whiteness
Looking forward to printing vis to come. I'm just a little surprised you aren't making your own printer/paper profiles yourself. $$$ wise, it might not be worth the cost to purchase the equipment to do so. Mind me asking what it cost to get a profile made? Thank you for any replies.
I made profiles for decades- still have all the equipment- I would speeds weeks tweaking the GCR and other settings but this was on the D’Vinci where I have total control over dot placement, screening and transitions etc … no company allows that kind of interaction these days as most systems are pretty locked down compared to the early 2000’s. I tested all the paper for Canson and was a Hahnemühle Master Printer- did work and made profiles for so many but it’s exhausting and not where I want my time to be spent these days. So when I did a deep dive into the new Black software I looked and looked and was just impressed by the interface and quality of the profiles- and they support a lot of paper right out the door. Profiles with Image Print red or black are just included - color and BW and you can even send paper and they will make profiles for it. I should also mention I am not sponsored by them or any company and purchased all the printer and software so these are my thoughts.
@ Thanks. Way more advance for my knowledge. I was thinking more on the lines of the upper end XRite device. I can understand you rather spend your time elsware. I only use a Ava on Pro 100 for now. Went thru a couple of Canson Inffinity sample paper packs. Some very nice paper & probably don’t need to look any further than them. I now have a couple of Red River sample packs & want to try Moab & Hahnemule also. Thanks for the reply, enjoy your new printer.
Congratulations with your new "toy". I hope you'll be happy with it and that it delivers the result you expect from it. But, by god it's massive.
I've printed on and even profiled brown kraft paper on the Pro-4100 without issue, for what its worth.
Congratulations Steve.
Which baryta paper, btw?
I use Canson a lot but this was an Epson I had lingering around the studio for sometime.
awesome
Congrats on the dream machine! I tried downloading the test print from your website, the same one you show in the video, but there is no active link for it.
Yeah download the other one- I apparently broke the file link and need to fix that- the other test target is newer an better for 2024 printers.
Steve - Great news. I am excited to see more content on printing. I just upgraded a dead Epson 3880 with the P900. Still giving Epson a go. Also - re: the print target you used. I could not find a clickable like for the one you used. I was able to download the FinalTestTarget2022, but not the other one. I'm probably missing something or just not "hovering" in the correct spot. Any guidance?
Thanks again for all you do and share. Always valuable.
I was looking at that earlier- I think when I made the new target to probably broke the link to the first one- the new one is better tho anyway.
Great channel, subscribed 👍🤠
Thanks for this.
One thing, I thought you were going to dump it on install! :-)
Me too!!
Congrats. Can you use Cone inks?
I dont think so but with the Image Print Black rip the BW are so crazy neutral.
@@FIGITALREVOLUTION I can't imagine any 3 shades of black/gray ink coming close to what 11 shades of black/gray can do. The quality difference in B&W images of my 9900 with piezopro versus my P9000 with Epson ink is huge.
actually it all comes down to the paper you are printing on... for your works / style on your bryta paper yes the cone inks can produce a lot of grey tonality. I have run a lot of BW on the P9000 using ImagePrint black and was shocked at just how good it was.... now in this printer it has a gloss optimizer options that just smooths out the whole printed area.
@@BrianKosoff-s6t and looking at a quad tone 4K vs 6K or 7K is only really realized on glossy material-
I'm not sure if anyone has informed you. You can make your custom paper calibration right from the machine using Canon's software. Welcome to the Canon Pro printer family.
Yeah I know that but the issue is the hand coated paper has a brown edge that transitions to white which the printer does not like- have spoken with the techs and they are looking to see if this is something that can have the option to turn off- Epson is fine with this but the Canon at the moment is not.
Time will tell--
Caution: You will need two people to lift that. Ink is delivered by tanker.
It was quite heavy 😅
this thing is only $4,516.00?! thats like..1.5 Leicas!
But the inks and 10 sheets of fitting paper will make the printer a free lunch.
try disabling width detection. I called Canon when my 4100 would reject paper that was printed on already. I figure if I'm going to pay $3,000 for a printer, I want to print anywhere I feel like. Now I can.
Nice just chatting with you- as I mentioned the width detection is off but it is rather an issue of how the brown paper is hand coated- it has about a 1” brown edge followed by white and brown on the other side- the change in brown to white is making it think there is no paper loaded or not loaded to the proper registration point. Canon is looking into it….
Looks like you got a racist printer. It won’t recognize paper unless it’s white. 😂