As a beginner I love my 7’8 foamy (Olaian), 8’ from a surf school felt too heavy to steer. Also enjoying inflatable boards (Gong) from 6’3 to 9’. They provide a bigger volume than foam and now come with rubber rails towards the tail and FCS2 fins.
I am glad you have mentioned about the "cool" factor about surfing as it has always been like that around this sport. I have a large amount of surfboards as part of my quiver therefore the one I have been surfing the most is my 7 foot foamie that can handle pretty much everything from 1-2ft to 6ft waves. It lives inside my Van and it is my best friend forever! Don't be fooled by what someone will think of you holding a foamie, just get out there with any kind of board you might have and have the best time ever. If that was the case Italo Ferreira won't be one of the best surfers ever, he started surfing with a Styrofoam container lid. Have you not seen JOB surfing Pipeline with a foamie ?! Go foamies !!! LOL KKKKKKKK
I been surfing 3 years and my foam board by far has the best stories so far. By the end of the day everyone is assuming I been doing this for years. Jerry Lopez from Costco 100 bucks. Lighter than traditional foamies so I can whip it when I feel frisky and it catches almost anything I look at😎
@@octaviojimenez9274 that’s the board I just picked up, headed to SoCal for 8 days to learn how to surf, driven the SportMobile out from Denver, so stoked.
I tried a long board a few times and then instantly bought a 6’6 foam funboard around 50lt (similar to the one kale recommended) Perfect and easier to handle than a 9” long board. I’d say especially if you’re a smaller adult going straight to a buoyant foam fun/hybrid board will most likely work for you
I love seeing videos like this. I'm a total beginner and just bought my first foamy. The look of my board is the least of my worries as far as cool factor goes. When I actually get up, my form is so aesthetically unappealing that the coolest looking board on planet Earth isn't going to help. LOL
I’ve just bought a surftech bomber and have really enjoyed using it, my surfing sucks but have windsurfed for years. I’m ok on the waves just paddling and positioning is my problem. The bomber is super stable and really suits my local conditions, also it’s great for my kids !
Nice explanation, appreciate the info! I learned to surf in Aust on a 7'0" foam mini malibu and got quite capable; then decided to buy a board I could travel with and "grow" into. The board was a 5'10" gun and the differences were unreal, I couldn't catch a wave, I'd slide off the side when paddling hard, I would drink water since the board was submerged and I was breathing so heavy haha. It would be great to see a video explaining intermediate boards for simple beach breaks. Cheers.
@1:30 I didn't even need to watch anything beyond that. Get a quality soft top/foamy. They're 1/3 the price of a glass board, you don't need to worry about dings, and they surf great. Check out what some of the cats at Catch Surf are doing on soft tops.
I think you're absolutely right. I'm able to catch basically all the waves I paddle for and surf down the line on my 7'0 soft top. Just starting of trying some little turns and trying to pump to get more speed. Everyone tells me to go look for a hard top board now from about 7'0-7'6. I'm 75kg 180 cm. I think I would rather indeed look for a foamie of the size you showed in the video. I also feel more confident on them
Went with a pair of 8’ foamys for the wide and I. Complete beginners and we aren’t as young these days so should be a safe place to start. Can always be passed down to the kids 👍
Ive only ever caught a handful of waves on my 6'0 fish board I got in 2005.... I was 117 lbs in 2007 when I joined the army, 165 lbs when I came out, Im back down to 140 or so.... I have way more paddling power now, but Im not sure about the displacement. It will be interesting to see how it feels in the water after all this time.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on an oversized groveller as a beginner board. Currently learning on a 5'10" × 22.5" × 2.75" 43L board. It's a big wide tail at about 18" and feels rock solid when I manage to pop up, while being easier to manage in surf when compared to the 7'6" mini mal I also have access to.
glad i watched this video lol. have an 8' catchsurf log that is great but surfing in green water isnt fun. just picked up a 6'4" pyzel gremlin xl for a groveller that can be fun and beginner friendly
Hi Kale, I am an beginner/intermediate surfer, I started with an high volume board, but some time ago I moved to a shortboard improving a lot the maneuver and I love it. Now I am a little confused about different boards for different conditions, in details in smaller and less powerful waves is it better to increase the volume or just having a different board shape?
0:32 Ive always wanted to learn to surf since i was 6, im currently 14 and im still begging my dad to let me, he does like it and is afraid i get hurt, which i understand but i wanna learn so baddd😭
'Just do it' Nike slogan .... you have to prove to dad & yourself competence ... start doing swimming laps of the pool, watch vids & surfers in action- all the time you're learning. Do the 'land' fitness/bal exercises .. also aquire a suitable used board (~2ft) longer than yourself wax ... lay the board on a Beanbag and do everything you want to do in the surf. In time your father will allow you to continue passion & training in a gentle surf 🤙🤟 yeah I surfed up till I was 39yo. This is how my 8yo son is learning... only he started on a Bodyboard aged 5yo. "Surf's up" 😎
Great vídeo and tips. First time ever that i've Heard someone recomending in-between size boards and foamy. I've always heard long boards being the Very First choice for begginners. Thanks for your videos. It always brings insights to my practice! Cheers from Brasil!
This is what I’m stuck in right now I went out with my 6’2 foam and got rolled multiple times but I noticed I was able to get through waves when the surf picked up I don’t want to buy a long board because the goal is to go to a short board so I want to learn on this board start to second guess my self because I didn’t catch any waves but I think it’s a perfect size I’m 5”8. Want your opinion am i in the right place or should I go long board like 6”6 or 6”7
As a first timer, I was doing amazing I thought I was a pro surfer! I could duck dive on a longboard and I’m saving up some money to get a pointed nose surf board! 🤙
What is the surf board type progression? Foam board (beginner) > fun board (beginner/ intemed) > ?? > short board (Adv) ? I've just started surfing last couple of months, I found a foam really easy riding standing but couldn't turn much because of its size. I don't want to spend a lot of money buying different boards, but I'm pretty keen to find a board i can duck dive with but also has some stability. What you reckon?
Hey Kale, I can't find any reviews on the Ryder Mal series or Fish series. Do you have any experience with these and how do they compare to MF Supersoft Beastie. I'm a beginner looking at a 7ft board.
Thanks kale, great vid, you explain it so clearly. I'm getting into becoming a surf coach down south and learnt some valuable tips I can pass on one day. If I see u on the mid I'll come say g'day. Safe travels🤙 Ps I felt for u when ya board fell😣
I've been surfing on my wavestorm for a while now. I can pop up consistently, do top and bottom turns, and am overall just pretty comfortable on it. I've been getting frustrated at how much effort it takes to turn it, and I want to start shortboarding. I'm about 140lbs and 6feet tall. I also have an extremely limited budget. I found a board on craigslist with these dimensions: 6'10 x 20 x 2 3/8. I have no way of finding out the volume :/ it's only 50 dollars because it's got a few dings, but they can be fixed easily with some solarez. This board seems like the solution. is it?
You use the Happy Hour Softboard with a wetsuit... Wondering if your skin and body gets scratch or hurt not using the wetsuit? Is this a rough surfboard to use in warm areas like caribbean?
understood but now I am 95kg. so boards need to be longer and have higher volume correct? so 60l 8.6 feet for example MF Beastie is great? i do surf skate to get prepared and am. capable to ride bowls and survive. expert advice highly appreciated!
So interesting you talk about foamies like this, here in Brazil, in Florianópolis, we have a shaper, the brand is Croa making foam boards for all shapes and sizes even with a couple of our champion surfers having their own boards there.
Would you recommend more liters when the waves aren't as powerful? We live in the North of North Holland, The Netherlands, and the lower waves for beginners aren't that powerful. I want to start practicing turning and surfing along the rail but the waves on clean days are usually pretty small. However I feel that too many liters slow me down too much and the board isn't being sucked into the wall of the wave as easy.
Love your vids Kale - I’ve taken up surfing again aged 57. I learnt to surf in Jersey (UK) in the 80s and now live in Dunbar (Scotland). I’m RUBBISH but determined (would you consider ditching background music on your vids?)
I wish people knew that high performance longboards are a good option for getting into intermediate surfing too along with mid lengths. Everybody is always in such a rush to get onto a short board🤦🏾♂️
I was told by the shop a 6’6”wasn’t for me because I was new to surfing however I’ve been doing board sports my whole life and consistently snowboard powder which actually correlates more than you realize they suck me on a 9’ and got up on my first wave I tried on and I was bored by the end of my first session next time my buddy let me use his a 5’8” foamy that really allowed me to understand turning so much better I hate when shop guys pretend they are the all knowing eye especially because I’m a skinny guy I don’t need all the literage to stay up
Another great vid, thanks. Yes, I always thought foamies were only for beginners, thanks for setting me straight there. I am interested that you didn't mention weight or height of the surfer. I am beginner/intermediate surfer, I am 6ft3in and about 100kg - I have found that I need something much bigger (volume) and longer than an equivalent surfer who is 5ft10in and 75kg! Would you not factor in surfer height and weight into your purchasing considerations? Cheers.
we surf the Great lakes and with the inconsistent waves and less bouyant water volume is key, on our side we have 90% sand bottom and it moves a lot so the 9' and longer can be an issue if its breaking in 2ft one day and 5 the next... great vid!! yeew
@@jsthiffo9568 surfing the lakes is a different beast , no sharks or razor reef or stingy fish... however. we have to get stoked abt surfing knee high full onshore wind chop in 20 degree weather..... ;) almost as scary as a shark lol;)
I started learning on a 7'2" Walden Mega Magic. Still a beginner, and still learning a lot after a year, but I'm thinking about investing in a 7'6" sharper nose board with less volume. The mega magic will still serve a purpose but bigger days its just too much. Thoughts?
Hey there! I'm 1.81m x 91kg (5'11" x 200lb), did 4/5 surf sessions and am already hooked to it (quite obvious coming from skate/snowboard)! I want to buy a beginner surfboard to start progressing solidly, what about a 7'8" 75L foamie or the same board but 8'6" 90L volume? Any other suggestions like a mini mal? Thx!
So I got an 8" foam longboard to start out on but I am wondering if I should of went shorter. I am 6" myself I don't know if that has anything to do with it. The waves here are usually around 3" with 6-second intervals.
Kale, great video as always! You have got to be one of, if not the best surfing instructor on TH-cam. I had a question: I am stuck in a landlocked state and only get to surf when I go on vacation so when I rent a surfboard, say in a place like San Diego, they ask if I'm a beginner which I reply yes. Then I am handed a 9' or 10' board and go on my way. What wording should I use to rent a shorter but more volume foamy? That way I can duck dive easier but still have the paddling stability? Thanks!
That O&E board only goes up to a 7"6, what would you recommend for someone at 90kg/6"2? I'm weighing up between a 9"-ish longboard, or a shorter 8"-ish foamy.
Exactly a year ago my softboard hit my neck while learning to go down the line. It hurt a bit and I didn't react on time with my hands for protection. Today a similar thing happened with my longboard, I just blocked it with my palms.. Can't imagine what would have happened if I didn't... Man a longboard hitting you really hurts
Various surf shops and websites tell me 6.5’ foamies are only ok for lighter weight surfers. I’m 75kg so it looks like I will need a 7’6. Is that right or is there something else at play?
Hey, i have got a question re buying my first foamy, iv taken several lessons and can stand up regularly, i calculated my volume based on your surfboard buying guide and the volume i calculated for myself is approximately 76L (95 x 0.8) - i am 181cm tall and 95kg, iv been thinking about getting the catch surf log , the 7ft log has a volume of 72L and the 8ft has a volume of 86L - im not sure which to get.
Hey man, can a beginner surfer switch immediately to a retro fish after 4 sessions on a long board? Or even without experience on a long board, can you actually learn to surf on a retro fish? Thanks man!
Kale, as of late i have been struggling with the motivation aspect of getting out there, i have not had this problem in my surfing career thus far. Any recommendation?
You've definitely made me very interested in looking into getting a foamie to progress my riding. I'm 140lb and somewhere inbetween beginner and intermediate. I'm thinking of getting a Mullet Tombstone 5'10. Any advice? Thanks
I just started surfing this summer and really wanna get my first board, im just wondering if your weight has a part to play when choosing the right board, alot people suggest to me a 8 foot board as I am 80kg, I don't mind the big board but I really wanna advance my mobility
Rule of thumb for a beginner get a board thats a foot longer than your height. 22 inches wide is a good width . Not too much rocker in the tail or the nose. 5 8 seems a bit short for a beginner board tbh.
Hey man, love your videos. I am riding a 6 6 soft top right now. I would consider myself a beginner still but was wondering if you would recommend the lost rnf 96? I really want to transition to a short board. I am use to skating and snowboarding and just riding smaller boards in general. I am 6 ft 3 and about 185 pounds. There are only 2 sizes a 5 11 and 5 9. Let me know your thoughts thanks !
I just started surfing and bought my first board, a 9ft Hot Curl foamie. I am an aspiring longboarder so thought it would make sense to start with a longboard too. I know you’ve just been getting more into long boarding but do you have any thoughts on progression for a longboarder?
Tldr: yes you do want a hardtop longboard due to the rails and other capabilities of the board. This is as any personal advice heavily dependant on what your current level and ambitions. If your are really looking into traditional logging you can get far on your 9,0. As apart from the standard popup, green waves and angled take offs you have a lot more to learn that comes down to technique rather than manouvers based on mobility. I.e. Crosstepping, faded take off, stalling and positioning on the wave. However, yes there is a point a hardtop becomes better. That has to do with the contours and compared to a foamie a lot with the rails of the board. For instance a cutback or carving turn on a foamie is hard, because the board does not want to due to its chunky thick rails. Not impossible but limiting for sure if carving turns becomes the next thing to learn. And yes, you do want to start learning these eventually. Edit: faded take offs might also give you some trouble due to thick rails.
Hey kale! Is volume more important than length? I’m 5’9” and 125lbs and I found a board that’s 6’0” foamie that’s 42 L of volume. Would that be a good board for me? I don’t want a board too big like the one I use now, or too squirly if you know what I mean. I need your opinion!
@@supercooldude824 yep I got the board! It’s taken some time to get used to but I feel way safer on it, and can get steeper waves which mean more progress!
Been surfing the longer foamies too long it seems. I’ve been choosing a 7 or 8 foot foamie most summers when renting. Maybe time to choose a 6.5 by the sounds and see the difference. I could easily get a 6.5 inside my car too
This is counter to the entire ethos of the 8' foamie - I'm inclined to think that the 8' is just fine for the first few weeks or months before moving onto a mid-length with a lot of volume. But 6'6" 45L in my first 6 months of surfing seems too ambitious.
@@heaveninyoureyesx I would state a confident beginner - I'm 68 kg. The larger foam boards were limiting my growth so I went with this one so I could still have some stacks without worrying about the board knocking me out. Its not suitable to duck dive so its does limit the swell I go out in.
Thanks for the video. I clicked on the link to purchase the board you have, but it keeps saying you literally have no boards on the site. Do you not have any for sale?
I want to learn to surf but I broke my back and neck so my back and neck have limited movement. I’m not trying to become a pro surfer. I just want to have the freedom that I see surfers experience. Do you recommend a coach? How do I modify surfing techniques to accommodate my disabilities? Thank you for your time.
Have you tried the Formula Fun Board? Or has anyone else? I was thinking of getting one but wanted a true opinion. Website below... What is the highest recommended foamie for a beginner progressing to intermediate, and very athletic?
Great Tips! Thanx 4UR Time! With soft top boards everyone has a propensity to shy away from them because they believe that there's no cool factor involved but quite the contrary, isn't it? You pointed out all the Cool Factors Out; Lightweight & Comfortabilities = Ease of Paddling - Stability Paddling & in Stance - Softer on the Noggin and most importantly progress in performance ''Yea Brah!'' Totally Catching Waves & Looking Somewhat Good at it Beats Struggling and Looking Like a Barney! "FOR SURE!'' Just Reiterated Everything You Said Brock, Sorry Just Got a Bit Excited, Actually.. 🌊 🌊 🌊🏄♂️ 🤪
Kale - Great stuff! I just finished your "Ultimate Surfboard Buying Guide course. It totally changed how I'm looking at my potential progression as a beginner surfer. Quick question: In the Buying Guide, you use a formula to calculate the correct volume of a board. Is that same formula applicable to foam boards? Thanks and keep shredding!
@@KalesBroccoli Thanks! Just to clarify, if the formula tells me I should have a board with a volume of 59 liters, even on a foamie, I should shoot for that? (I love the board you show in the video, but that appears to be too "small" for me at this point if the equation holds true.)
i want to know how you film yourself surfing. what camera do you use? how do you set up? have you used a soloshot? would you recommend it? these are the sorts of things i’d like to either see a video about or know about. i take seriously the idea that a great way to improve is to see yourself. i want to figure out how to make that happen for myself. i’m a patreon subscriber and i love the client videos you share. thanks!
I meant 2021 at the end team 😂😎
Your eyes say it all...
Next week ding repairs. Now where will you get a damaged board to fix. : [
@5:40... She dropped in on his wave, right?
As a beginner I love my 7’8 foamy (Olaian), 8’ from a surf school felt too heavy to steer. Also enjoying inflatable boards (Gong) from 6’3 to 9’. They provide a bigger volume than foam and now come with rubber rails towards the tail and FCS2 fins.
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I am glad you have mentioned about the "cool" factor about surfing as it has always been like that around this sport.
I have a large amount of surfboards as part of my quiver therefore the one I have been surfing the most is my 7 foot foamie that can handle pretty much everything from 1-2ft to 6ft waves. It lives inside my Van and it is my best friend forever! Don't be fooled by what someone will think of you holding a foamie, just get out there with any kind of board you might have and have the best time ever. If that was the case Italo Ferreira won't be one of the best surfers ever, he started surfing with a Styrofoam container lid. Have you not seen JOB surfing Pipeline with a foamie ?! Go foamies !!! LOL KKKKKKKK
I been surfing 3 years and my foam board by far has the best stories so far. By the end of the day everyone is assuming I been doing this for years. Jerry Lopez from Costco 100 bucks. Lighter than traditional foamies so I can whip it when I feel frisky and it catches almost anything I look at😎
Do you feel a 7ft foamie is okay for someone 85kg? I've just bought one but am struggling to get on waves.
@@octaviojimenez9274 that’s the board I just picked up, headed to SoCal for 8 days to learn how to surf, driven the SportMobile out from Denver, so stoked.
what make is your 7' foamy Renato?
Started out on a 5’8 softie, I called pinkie, couldn’t turn at all but you could catch anything, happy memories but I snapped it on a heavy day, RIP
I tried a long board a few times and then instantly bought a 6’6 foam funboard around 50lt (similar to the one kale recommended) Perfect and easier to handle than a 9” long board. I’d say especially if you’re a smaller adult going straight to a buoyant foam fun/hybrid board will most likely work for you
For reference im 60kg
which board did you have?
Today I learned I should search for “small adult” when searching stuff adequate to my size 😂
I love seeing videos like this. I'm a total beginner and just bought my first foamy. The look of my board is the least of my worries as far as cool factor goes. When I actually get up, my form is so aesthetically unappealing that the coolest looking board on planet Earth isn't going to help. LOL
You’ll get the hang of it! Much luck friend !
I’ve just bought a surftech bomber and have really enjoyed using it, my surfing sucks but have windsurfed for years. I’m ok on the waves just paddling and positioning is my problem. The bomber is super stable and really suits my local conditions, also it’s great for my kids !
Literally taught me how to surf just by watching the channel, pretty much covers everything. Cheers Kale 🥬 Yeww 🤙🏻
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Nice explanation, appreciate the info! I learned to surf in Aust on a 7'0" foam mini malibu and got quite capable; then decided to buy a board I could travel with and "grow" into. The board was a 5'10" gun and the differences were unreal, I couldn't catch a wave, I'd slide off the side when paddling hard, I would drink water since the board was submerged and I was breathing so heavy haha. It would be great to see a video explaining intermediate boards for simple beach breaks. Cheers.
Fish is a good option going from a mini mal
@@tl9525 Thank you for this tip, I recently rented a fish and it was MUCH better. Cheers!
Oh my gosh kale! When your board slid down 😱🤣 IFL my foam board, always catch waves and always always have a fantastic time!
Ahh I love when you make the into music a higher pitch
I shape balsa boards for my own, but one of my favourite boards is the 6.0 foamie 😍
@1:30 I didn't even need to watch anything beyond that. Get a quality soft top/foamy. They're 1/3 the price of a glass board, you don't need to worry about dings, and they surf great. Check out what some of the cats at Catch Surf are doing on soft tops.
I think you're absolutely right. I'm able to catch basically all the waves I paddle for and surf down the line on my 7'0 soft top. Just starting of trying some little turns and trying to pump to get more speed. Everyone tells me to go look for a hard top board now from about 7'0-7'6. I'm 75kg 180 cm. I think I would rather indeed look for a foamie of the size you showed in the video. I also feel more confident on them
I've got the same dimensions as you and can't seem to catch anything on my soft 7 lol, could it be a matter of volume? Mines got 63 litres
Went with a pair of 8’ foamys for the wide and I. Complete beginners and we aren’t as young these days so should be a safe place to start. Can always be passed down to the kids 👍
Ive only ever caught a handful of waves on my 6'0 fish board I got in 2005.... I was 117 lbs in 2007 when I joined the army, 165 lbs when I came out, Im back down to 140 or so.... I have way more paddling power now, but Im not sure about the displacement. It will be interesting to see how it feels in the water after all this time.
Your videos are really helpful especially for beginners like me. I hope to see more tutorials.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on an oversized groveller as a beginner board.
Currently learning on a 5'10" × 22.5" × 2.75" 43L board.
It's a big wide tail at about 18" and feels rock solid when I manage to pop up, while being easier to manage in surf when compared to the 7'6" mini mal I also have access to.
first timer here, bought a board that look like the blue one at 3.20 going to try tomorrow
glad i watched this video lol. have an 8' catchsurf log that is great but surfing in green water isnt fun. just picked up a 6'4" pyzel gremlin xl for a groveller that can be fun and beginner friendly
I got a 5”8 fun board and it is a game changer, absolutely inlove with it 🤙🏼
Modern Highline got me back in the water last year, already looking for something shorter, great vid😆
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I have one too. The sweet spot is the entire board.
Same here, great board to get the basics back! I’ve just upgraded to a shorter board but am keeping the Highline for a while.
Hi Kale, I am an beginner/intermediate surfer, I started with an high volume board, but some time ago I moved to a shortboard improving a lot the maneuver and I love it. Now I am a little confused about different boards for different conditions, in details in smaller and less powerful waves is it better to increase the volume or just having a different board shape?
We have 2 boards. 7’6” epoxy mal and a 9’2” longboard. Great for any conditions and we’re both beginners.
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Ive always wanted to learn to surf since i was 6, im currently 14 and im still begging my dad to let me, he does like it and is afraid i get hurt, which i understand but i wanna learn so baddd😭
If you were my offspring surfing would begin before walking..
@@danjohnson3756 😭😭😭, you should prolly make a video about currents and how to avoid them and all that jazz, ig you havnt already
literally falling into water, how do you get hurt
'Just do it' Nike slogan
.... you have to prove to dad & yourself competence ... start doing swimming laps of the pool, watch vids & surfers in action- all the time you're learning.
Do the 'land' fitness/bal exercises .. also aquire a suitable used board (~2ft) longer than yourself wax ... lay the board on a Beanbag and do everything you want to do in the surf.
In time your father will allow you to continue passion & training in a gentle surf 🤙🤟 yeah
I surfed up till I was 39yo. This is how my 8yo son is learning... only he started on a Bodyboard aged 5yo.
"Surf's up" 😎
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Really like your channel bro. Has helped me progress so much in my beginner surfing
Thank you
Great vídeo and tips. First time ever that i've Heard someone recomending in-between size boards and foamy. I've always heard long boards being the Very First choice for begginners.
Thanks for your videos. It always brings insights to my practice!
Cheers from Brasil!
Awesome !!!
This is what I’m stuck in right now I went out with my 6’2 foam and got rolled multiple times but I noticed I was able to get through waves when the surf picked up I don’t want to buy a long board because the goal is to go to a short board so I want to learn on this board start to second guess my self because I didn’t catch any waves but I think it’s a perfect size I’m 5”8. Want your opinion am i in the right place or should I go long board like 6”6 or 6”7
@@Clickhawaii if I were you I would keep learning on it for a bit longer and don’t upgrade unless it doesn’t get any better
Thanks Kale
Just came across your channel, it’s really informative without being aggressive.. GGS man, ✌️
As a first timer, I was doing amazing I thought I was a pro surfer! I could duck dive on a longboard and I’m saving up some money to get a pointed nose surf board! 🤙
great seeing some good ol' south aussie waves ive surfed many a day
I just bought my first surfboard and it’s a 5’8 wave storm. I know it’s gonna take a lot to learn but wish me luck🤓
How’s the progress? Did you learn to surf?
What is the surf board type progression?
Foam board (beginner) > fun board (beginner/ intemed) > ?? > short board (Adv) ?
I've just started surfing last couple of months, I found a foam really easy riding standing but couldn't turn much because of its size.
I don't want to spend a lot of money buying different boards, but I'm pretty keen to find a board i can duck dive with but also has some stability.
What you reckon?
What is a good size foam board to work on turns and pumping the wave but still have the buoyancy?
Depends on many factors but generally nothing over 6’6 or so I’d guess
Hey Kale, I can't find any reviews on the Ryder Mal series or Fish series. Do you have any experience with these and how do they compare to MF Supersoft Beastie. I'm a beginner looking at a 7ft board.
I have a 6'6 hybrid fish by free pig movement. Would this be like the happy hour board or should I buy a more fun shape board to progress?
Thanks kale, great vid, you explain it so clearly.
I'm getting into becoming a surf coach down south and learnt some valuable tips I can pass on one day.
If I see u on the mid I'll come say g'day.
Safe travels🤙
Ps I felt for u when ya board fell😣
Thanks bro!! Haha yea painful!
I've been surfing on my wavestorm for a while now. I can pop up consistently, do top and bottom turns, and am overall just pretty comfortable on it. I've been getting frustrated at how much effort it takes to turn it, and I want to start shortboarding. I'm about 140lbs and 6feet tall. I also have an extremely limited budget. I found a board on craigslist with these dimensions: 6'10 x 20 x 2 3/8. I have no way of finding out the volume :/ it's only 50 dollars because it's got a few dings, but they can be fixed easily with some solarez. This board seems like the solution. is it?
Great video! I really enjoy my 7ft Wavestorm and it cost me 350 dollars less than that 6'6" Happy Hour.
You use the Happy Hour Softboard with a wetsuit... Wondering if your skin and body gets scratch or hurt not using the wetsuit? Is this a rough surfboard to use in warm areas like caribbean?
understood but now I am 95kg. so boards need to be longer and have higher volume correct? so 60l 8.6 feet for example MF Beastie is great? i do surf skate to get prepared and am. capable to ride bowls and survive. expert advice highly appreciated!
So interesting you talk about foamies like this, here in Brazil, in Florianópolis, we have a shaper, the brand is Croa making foam boards for all shapes and sizes even with a couple of our champion surfers having their own boards there.
Would you recommend more liters when the waves aren't as powerful? We live in the North of North Holland, The Netherlands, and the lower waves for beginners aren't that powerful. I want to start practicing turning and surfing along the rail but the waves on clean days are usually pretty small. However I feel that too many liters slow me down too much and the board isn't being sucked into the wall of the wave as easy.
Is there a lot of difference in maneuverability between, for example, a 6'6 and a 7' softech roller?
I love softboards!!! I have four ranging from 7 foot down to a 5’10 😄🏄♀️
Love your vids Kale - I’ve taken up surfing again aged 57. I learnt to surf in Jersey (UK) in the 80s and now live in Dunbar (Scotland). I’m RUBBISH but determined (would you consider ditching background music on your vids?)
I wish people knew that high performance longboards are a good option for getting into intermediate surfing too along with mid lengths. Everybody is always in such a rush to get onto a short board🤦🏾♂️
SHHH!! Let them struggle to catch waves while i cruise pass em....yeew
@@natural_law lol
I was told by the shop a 6’6”wasn’t for me because I was new to surfing however I’ve been doing board sports my whole life and consistently snowboard powder which actually correlates more than you realize they suck me on a 9’ and got up on my first wave I tried on and I was bored by the end of my first session next time my buddy let me use his a 5’8” foamy that really allowed me to understand turning so much better I hate when shop guys pretend they are the all knowing eye especially because I’m a skinny guy I don’t need all the literage to stay up
Another great vid, thanks. Yes, I always thought foamies were only for beginners, thanks for setting me straight there. I am interested that you didn't mention weight or height of the surfer. I am beginner/intermediate surfer, I am 6ft3in and about 100kg - I have found that I need something much bigger (volume) and longer than an equivalent surfer who is 5ft10in and 75kg! Would you not factor in surfer height and weight into your purchasing considerations? Cheers.
Yeah I talked a bit about this in my surfboard buying guide
we surf the Great lakes and with the inconsistent waves and less bouyant water volume is key, on our side we have 90% sand bottom and it moves a lot so the 9' and longer can be an issue if its breaking in 2ft one day and 5 the next...
great vid!! yeew
same thing here , north shore of st-laurence quebec .... :(
Can’t wait to come try one day!
@@jsthiffo9568 surfing the lakes is a different beast , no sharks or razor reef or stingy fish... however.
we have to get stoked abt surfing knee high full onshore wind chop in 20 degree weather..... ;) almost as scary as a shark lol;)
Have any good suggestions? I’m looking for something about 7+ Ft tall and decently thick.
Also something decently minimal. Thx
I started learning on a 7'2" Walden Mega Magic. Still a beginner, and still learning a lot after a year, but I'm thinking about investing in a 7'6" sharper nose board with less volume. The mega magic will still serve a purpose but bigger days its just too much. Thoughts?
could I take a 6'0 Happy Hour, if I am 175 cm tall with 65 kilos? more intermediate than beginner
I’m curious I have two 6 foot foamys one has a rounded end and the other pointed which one would be better for beginners?
Thanks for this video! Really good info
I brought a 7'6 foamy I can't wait till it arrives
How’s the progress? Is it a good beginner board?
U think catch surf RNF 6'5 is good for first board, 6’5” x 21.5” x 3.0” (56 Liters)
Really relevant for me! Thanks mate!
Hey there! I'm 1.81m x 91kg (5'11" x 200lb), did 4/5 surf sessions and am already hooked to it (quite obvious coming from skate/snowboard)! I want to buy a beginner surfboard to start progressing solidly, what about a 7'8" 75L foamie or the same board but 8'6" 90L volume? Any other suggestions like a mini mal? Thx!
Would it be possible to duck dive with a shorter softie?
So I got an 8" foam longboard to start out on but I am wondering if I should of went shorter. I am 6" myself I don't know if that has anything to do with it. The waves here are usually around 3" with 6-second intervals.
I just got myself a 7"2 Torq funboard, what are you guys' thoughts on the brand, should I've just gone for the Bic?
Kale, great video as always! You have got to be one of, if not the best surfing instructor on TH-cam. I had a question: I am stuck in a landlocked state and only get to surf when I go on vacation so when I rent a surfboard, say in a place like San Diego, they ask if I'm a beginner which I reply yes. Then I am handed a 9' or 10' board and go on my way. What wording should I use to rent a shorter but more volume foamy? That way I can duck dive easier but still have the paddling stability? Thanks!
Just ask for something for manoeuvrable as you want to start surfing on the open face :) thanks buddy
@@KalesBroccoli Okay, perfect! Thanks so much, Kale! Cheers
was wondering why my board was so tiring in the surf lol. It was my first session but my board is 8ft and im 70kg's. Might look at a smaller board.
That O&E board only goes up to a 7"6, what would you recommend for someone at 90kg/6"2?
I'm weighing up between a 9"-ish longboard, or a shorter 8"-ish foamy.
Depends on that persons abilities
Exactly a year ago my softboard hit my neck while learning to go down the line.
It hurt a bit and I didn't react on time with my hands for protection.
Today a similar thing happened with my longboard, I just blocked it with my palms.. Can't imagine what would have happened if I didn't...
Man a longboard hitting you really hurts
Various surf shops and websites tell me 6.5’ foamies are only ok for lighter weight surfers. I’m 75kg so it looks like I will need a 7’6. Is that right or is there something else at play?
Good stuff Kale! Was great meeting you out there at Pondie!
Awesome to meet ya Sebby!
Nice one KB, hope you can put out more surf vids!
Hey, i have got a question re buying my first foamy, iv taken several lessons and can stand up regularly, i calculated my volume based on your surfboard buying guide and the volume i calculated for myself is approximately 76L (95 x 0.8) - i am 181cm tall and 95kg, iv been thinking about getting the catch surf log , the 7ft log has a volume of 72L and the 8ft has a volume of 86L - im not sure which to get.
What did u end up getting ? And any recommendations for someone just starting with the same exact height and weight ?
Hey man, can a beginner surfer switch immediately to a retro fish after 4 sessions on a long board? Or even without experience on a long board, can you actually learn to surf on a retro fish? Thanks man!
Kale, as of late i have been struggling with the motivation aspect of getting out there, i have not had this problem in my surfing career thus far. Any recommendation?
Change boards change beaches change who you surf with
You've definitely made me very interested in looking into getting a foamie to progress my riding. I'm 140lb and somewhere inbetween beginner and intermediate.
I'm thinking of getting a Mullet Tombstone 5'10. Any advice? Thanks
What size foamie would be best for someone that is 56in
I just started surfing this summer and really wanna get my first board, im just wondering if your weight has a part to play when choosing the right board, alot people suggest to me a 8 foot board as I am 80kg, I don't mind the big board but I really wanna advance my mobility
I would go with your friend’s recommendation. An 8’ foam board seems ideal.
Rule of thumb for a beginner get a board thats a foot longer than your height. 22 inches wide is a good width . Not too much rocker in the tail or the nose. 5 8 seems a bit short for a beginner board tbh.
Hey man, love your videos. I am riding a 6 6 soft top right now. I would consider myself a beginner still but was wondering if you would recommend the lost rnf 96? I really want to transition to a short board. I am use to skating and snowboarding and just riding smaller boards in general. I am 6 ft 3 and about 185 pounds. There are only 2 sizes a 5 11 and 5 9. Let me know your thoughts thanks !
I just started surfing and bought my first board, a 9ft Hot Curl foamie. I am an aspiring longboarder so thought it would make sense to start with a longboard too. I know you’ve just been getting more into long boarding but do you have any thoughts on progression for a longboarder?
Tldr: yes you do want a hardtop longboard due to the rails and other capabilities of the board.
This is as any personal advice heavily dependant on what your current level and ambitions. If your are really looking into traditional logging you can get far on your 9,0. As apart from the standard popup, green waves and angled take offs you have a lot more to learn that comes down to technique rather than manouvers based on mobility. I.e. Crosstepping, faded take off, stalling and positioning on the wave. However, yes there is a point a hardtop becomes better. That has to do with the contours and compared to a foamie a lot with the rails of the board. For instance a cutback or carving turn on a foamie is hard, because the board does not want to due to its chunky thick rails. Not impossible but limiting for sure if carving turns becomes the next thing to learn. And yes, you do want to start learning these eventually.
Edit: faded take offs might also give you some trouble due to thick rails.
Hey kale! Is volume more important than length? I’m 5’9” and 125lbs and I found a board that’s 6’0” foamie that’s 42 L of volume. Would that be a good board for me? I don’t want a board too big like the one I use now, or too squirly if you know what I mean. I need your opinion!
Did you get the board? How’s the progress
@@supercooldude824 yep I got the board! It’s taken some time to get used to but I feel way safer on it, and can get steeper waves which mean more progress!
@@death_knell sick, was it your first board or did you have some surfing experience before?
Do you recommend the hard or soft board for the happy hour epoxy? Thanks for the great vid!
Is the epoxy version of the board just as good??
iv just purchased Hot surf 69 foam 7ft board
Been surfing the longer foamies too long it seems. I’ve been choosing a 7 or 8 foot foamie most summers when renting. Maybe time to choose a 6.5 by the sounds and see the difference. I could easily get a 6.5 inside my car too
Am I going to be able to learn on the 5’ foamie fish I just bought?
No
Bought wave bandit 7'0 and i'm stoaked to learn how to surf.
Was it a good beginner board? That’s what I was thinking of getting
can you give a bit of advice on suitable foamie board size for a beginner who's say 90kg?s 174cm tall? Beginner.
is that ok if i use 7 ft softboard instead of 6.6'' ft ?
I'm wanting to buy my first surfboard, I'm 5'2 and 53kg and a beginner, I have no idea what size board to get
This is counter to the entire ethos of the 8' foamie - I'm inclined to think that the 8' is just fine for the first few weeks or months before moving onto a mid-length with a lot of volume. But 6'6" 45L in my first 6 months of surfing seems too ambitious.
Excellent video, I now have a MF Black diamond 6.6' so much fun in the right conditions. Have you checked out the MF softboard range?
Hi, can I ask you what level are you and how do you find that board? Is it suitable for a 62kg beginner? Thanks
@@heaveninyoureyesx I would state a confident beginner - I'm 68 kg. The larger foam boards were limiting my growth so I went with this one so I could still have some stacks without worrying about the board knocking me out. Its not suitable to duck dive so its does limit the swell I go out in.
great video thanks!
Thanks for the video. I clicked on the link to purchase the board you have, but it keeps saying you literally have no boards on the site. Do you not have any for sale?
Sorry we don’t sell boards but try the O&E website 🤙🏽
I’m 5’11 285 beginner, what should I get
I want to learn to surf but I broke my back and neck so my back and neck have limited movement. I’m not trying to become a pro surfer. I just want to have the freedom that I see surfers experience. Do you recommend a coach? How do I modify surfing techniques to accommodate my disabilities? Thank you for your time.
Tricky one. Need to work with a good on land trainer to achieve best mobility and strength possible and surf as well.
Have you tried the Formula Fun Board? Or has anyone else? I was thinking of getting one but wanted a true opinion. Website below...
What is the highest recommended foamie for a beginner progressing to intermediate, and very athletic?
Where’s the best places to buy them and save money?
Great Tips! Thanx 4UR Time! With soft top boards everyone has a propensity to shy away from them because they believe that there's no cool factor involved but quite the contrary, isn't it? You pointed out all the Cool Factors Out; Lightweight & Comfortabilities = Ease of Paddling - Stability Paddling & in Stance - Softer on the Noggin and most importantly progress in performance ''Yea Brah!'' Totally Catching Waves & Looking Somewhat Good at it Beats Struggling and Looking Like a Barney! "FOR SURE!'' Just Reiterated Everything You Said Brock, Sorry Just Got a Bit Excited, Actually.. 🌊 🌊 🌊🏄♂️ 🤪
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Kale - Great stuff! I just finished your "Ultimate Surfboard Buying Guide course. It totally changed how I'm looking at my potential progression as a beginner surfer. Quick question: In the Buying Guide, you use a formula to calculate the correct volume of a board. Is that same formula applicable to foam boards? Thanks and keep shredding!
Yep! Though remember foamies will naturally have a little more buoyancy
@@KalesBroccoli Thanks! Just to clarify, if the formula tells me I should have a board with a volume of 59 liters, even on a foamie, I should shoot for that? (I love the board you show in the video, but that appears to be too "small" for me at this point if the equation holds true.)
i want to know how you film yourself surfing. what camera do you use? how do you set up? have you used a soloshot? would you recommend it? these are the sorts of things i’d like to either see a video about or know about. i take seriously the idea that a great way to improve is to see yourself. i want to figure out how to make that happen for myself. i’m a patreon subscriber and i love the client videos you share. thanks!
I have a camera operator - haven’t had great experiences with solo shot thus far but we’ll see if that changes in the future
thanks for the response
So, I am 240 lbs 6' tall, will that board recommendation work for me?
Hi I am starting into surf, would you recommend a inflatable surf board?
No
Why?