GUNDAM EVOLUTION WORSE THAN OVERWATCH 2? SAZABI GAMEPLAY! || Gundam Evolution

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  • GUNDAM EVOLUTION AND OVERWATCH 2 BOTH HAVE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.. BUT OVERWATCH 2 IS DEFINITELY BETTER IN THIS CATEGORY! Watch the video and you'll see what I mean!
    I hit rank 17 in the Gundam Evolution PC network test, and I'm a top 100, 4500 SR peak Overwatch player with 4 years of hero shooter experience, so you can rest assured that I've got a bunch for you to know in this video!
    Time Stamps:
    0:00 - Maps Comparison
    3:02 - OW2 Game modes v Gun Evo Game Modes
    9:55 - Game Balance Flaws
    Let me know what you guys thought, and I would LOVE to answer any questions you all have for me!
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  • @Dunmuir
    @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +4

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  • @seawind930
    @seawind930 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Character Design.... Well you're right it's hard to make p*rn out of Gundams, it kind of kills one of the major longevity advantages OW has over Gundam Evo.

    • @Verdugo_Arulaq
      @Verdugo_Arulaq ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “Hard to make popcorn without the ‘opc’ of Gundams” not with that attitude sailor lmaoooo

    • @QDRG64
      @QDRG64 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If only the actual pilots from the anime weren't just player icons LOL

    • @Blunette5194
      @Blunette5194 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobel Gundam says hi.

    • @mr.niceguy9394
      @mr.niceguy9394 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean. Your not wrong

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lolol true but I meant mainly the way they play. I just didn’t clarify

  • @xephyrexe5246
    @xephyrexe5246 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think I would rather play Gundam Evo than overwatch 2 because I really like gundam. I like the boosting around and suit designs. The combat feels satisfying when everything lines up. I do think balance needs to addressed in future patches though. Reworks maybe too. For example, Zaku 2's ultimate doesn't feel too useful for changing the course of a fight. It just feels like a really long cool down for a move that I can use against one or two opponents. RX 78 needs to use beam sabers as well. It's criminal that it doesn't have a third cooldown ability. Being the Original Gundam, it should have gotten more love.

    • @ninjagold9244
      @ninjagold9244 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd redo a lot about the RX-78 to be more flavorful. LMB = beam rifle, RMB = hyper bazooka, E = shield, F = hyper hammer. G-maneuver turns RX-78 into a melee monster with a speed boost and different moveset. LMB = beam saber swing, RMB = beam javelin throw.

    • @xephyrexe5246
      @xephyrexe5246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ninjagold9244 That's how I figured it would be before I played the game!!!

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The movement does feel good to be fair 🤔

    • @bryants1863
      @bryants1863 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ninjagold9244 I brought up the other other day how some suits seem lacking compared to their anime counterparts. You gave a good example of that with your comment.

  • @dynomight3855
    @dynomight3855 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Kinda hope more maps are added to Evo like ones taking place on the surface of the space fortresses Solomon or A Baoa Qu or Jaburo somewhere that's familiar to people rather than generic outposts of bases

    • @mehmeth9773
      @mehmeth9773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah i was thinking about that too and also space colony and destroyed version of it would be cool, oh well gundam evolution's future looking kinda grim can't expect much abt it

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would be sick

    • @TheLinkhawkins
      @TheLinkhawkins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mehmeth9773 it just came out, how is it grim?

    • @DeadEye364
      @DeadEye364 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just thinking that a Jaburo map would be pretty neat.

    • @pacothemajestic
      @pacothemajestic ปีที่แล้ว

      Side 7 as a map would go so hard. Starting out in the living areas of the colony and as you push the final point is White Base.

  • @RespawningJesus
    @RespawningJesus ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly, the main reason why I am beginning to prefer OW2 over Gundam Evo is for the simple fact that if someone leaves the lobby, it finds someone to fill that slot. So many of my games ends up with someone disconnecting in some way, shape, or form that it just sucks the fun out of the game.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeeep, ridiculous to not have this for casual game mode

    • @greyspirit4
      @greyspirit4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, always when a team loses the first round. There's a high chance there will be 1 - 3 players instantly quit/disconnect the game either from my team or the enemy depends on who losses first.

  • @robonoaware
    @robonoaware ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My biggest gripe playing OW2 is how clunky the movement feels compared to Gundam Evo. Especially if you die more than a few times you can spend so long just walking back to point

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol yeah I hate walking back on slow characters

    • @texavery8492
      @texavery8492 ปีที่แล้ว

      Practice not dying.

  • @traphimawari7760
    @traphimawari7760 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I guess it depends on how you look at it, to be fair Gundam Evolution is a new game and Overwatch 2 already established itself with Overwatch 1. Its pretty great that we have more options for games similar to overwatch when you don't feel like playing overwatch especially when you can't even get most of the og characters in game without having to grind, and for a free to player Overwatch 2 right now is pretty harsh meanwhile Gundam Evolution outright gives you the majority of the roster of characters for free albeit the "premium" ones take so long to unlock as well hopefully that changes in future updates, nonetheless you have more options compared to Overwatch 2 and simply an actual global release for it would be the only solution to fix the game

    • @buniboi2163
      @buniboi2163 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To me, ow2 is super buggy with still op characters that'll never get nerfed along with unnecessary features. Evo has better characters, better gameplay. Not super buggy, easier to kill in a way because no character has some super sonic speed ability or some op shield ability. And if a character is op they have limits. Like Barbatos, he can two shot anyone but he has to be close range and also the dmg system is more balanced. Ow's dmg system is just high for most characters even healers. 97% can two - three shot maybe four, the only bad character is ana aside from her sleep dart that has no limit on what it can hit.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just want some advertisement on gun evo

    • @kevinreyhan209
      @kevinreyhan209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it harsh when you only need to grind for like 12 hours to unlock most of the characters except kiriko ? meanwhile I'm 80 hours in gunevo and only have exia.

    • @buniboi2163
      @buniboi2163 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andrew Taylor she's decent, she requires at least good aim for long range healing. She also can't kill anyone at close range unless her dart hits but it's still a low chance of her winning.

    • @buniboi2163
      @buniboi2163 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinreyhan209 can just spend money, but ow2 Is similar in terms of buying a skin. Wait 8 months to get 1 legendary skin or spend 20 for one. Bandai might make getting characters easier though

  • @Varatrix
    @Varatrix ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One huge advantage they could capitalize on is there are so many mobile suits in the various gundam universes. All balances issues aside I wouldn't mind them just churning out characters for this game and they could compete on that.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yolo lol

    • @Ehibika
      @Ehibika ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I say be careful what you wish for, because I think paladins is in that situation where they just pump out characters at the expense of existing mechanics.
      If they aren't mindful about it, it could just mean that the new characters are always superior to the older ones, and rather than having a healthy ecosystem of characters to pick from, we just got a whole lot of bloat in the form of characters made redundant by newer, more flexible options, or just potentially more redundant options.

    • @vewyscawymonsta
      @vewyscawymonsta ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ehibika "more redundant options" Such as Nu Gundam.

  • @winzander4067
    @winzander4067 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i would like an escort type gamemode in gundam i think that could be really fun

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly, escort is the best game mode by far

    • @DeadEye364
      @DeadEye364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Escort the White Base

  • @mugensamurai
    @mugensamurai ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Maps that look like g gundam, build fighters, or 00. Would definitely be more colorful. Maybe in the future if namco sees this video.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeehhh, there’s just so much they could do

  • @jvg7498
    @jvg7498 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    my interests are simple:
    Gundam has sprints & dashes for all the MS
    all of them can be revived so you wont have to wait for respawn
    and 6v6
    honestly, little stuff like these are enough to keep me hooked on gundam

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These three are the biggest positive points of gun evo ngl

  • @ashenphoenix6869
    @ashenphoenix6869 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hmm you have some neat points. Stuff I didn't even notice since I don't really play games like this. But at least it doesn't detract from the fun for me with GunEvo. At least for now. And I suppose as long as the devs add some good things down the line. New game modes or more notable maps not just tons of mobile suits.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tend to think a lot about these sort of things and try to see the fundamentals and what they do 🤔

  • @um09dndam
    @um09dndam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing about gundam evo is that they cant have environment design like in overwatch because of how the characters are designed. It wouldn't make sense if a map would look like an indoor house. What gundam evo could do is update the current maps to be more diverse and stylish, and add iconic places from the shows.
    Some suits feel weak because they dont have their full kit. What I think they could change is that in certain instances, they can have access to these. Let's say for exia, if it goes into trans-am, it can access the beam rifle instead of throwing daggers or sazabi can use the particle cannon as the last bullet before it can reload from being empty.
    But what i really hope is that they add a rejoin option for afk/dc players while a new player can't join an ongoing match.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely want to see maps from the anime. Would draw even more interest to see which series/episode they came from

  • @ocean_bat
    @ocean_bat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    35 years of Gundam lore and the maps look like they were made out of generic dev assets from 2018, smh

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For real bro... like? There’s really nothing they could put in?

  • @YoYakuman
    @YoYakuman ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OW2:
    -Maps & Map Design
    -Gamemodes
    -Defined Roles
    GUNEVO:
    -Movment
    -Aim
    -6v6

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think this is about right 🤔 though I definitely think the 6v6 and being able to kill things is a positive

    • @YoYakuman
      @YoYakuman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Dunmuir I like the movement in gunevo. Tapping heads feels a lot less fun when the targets move slowly like in OW.

  • @306461
    @306461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The game just came compared to ow2 who had a start. I agree with maps I would like to see maybe a whitebase, loum, maybe a few maps from the series. Add 1 or 2 game modes like TDM or something. I would like to see in the game when they add new units would be Sinanju(maybe not ness because of sazabi), Gouf custom (either a tank version or the chaingun for long range plays), G wing, Physalis, Zeong are some my pref hopefully to see

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m excited to see the new suits they’ll add too 👀

  • @williamwray2522
    @williamwray2522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do love this game but one thing I really dislike is when we have additional rounds and both teams are given like 2:30 to reach the objective regardless of the time and if the other team made quick work of us and our team had to claw for those 2 points.
    The enemy team now has like 6 minutes and my team has 2:35 to defend.
    I really hope they change that in the future to make it at least FEEL more fair

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly.. like why so much added time?

  • @DeadEye364
    @DeadEye364 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hope the devs step it up, this game has a lot of potential with an ungodly amount of material to pull from and that is their greatest edge over Overwatch imo. With the different amount of iconic locals and MS they should be able to make this game something truly special. First though, they need to fix their microtransaction model. They are working with gold here, let the game speak for itself and breath and people would be more than will to spend money on extra stuff...just let us be able to earn some cool things as well.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      100% truth! And we have to be realistic with the devs and the state of the game. The game won’t improve if we aren’t honest and ignore the flaws

  • @Ming1975
    @Ming1975 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My problem with the maps is that you don't feel like your a 20 meter tall mech when just about every mech here are around that size.

  • @Exia_010
    @Exia_010 ปีที่แล้ว

    It'd be cool if there was a special game mode where u fought in space, and u hav to use thrusters to move around. But thrusters dont take stamina in the special game mode. Itd be kinda cool, cuz most of gundam battles happen in space, not on land

    • @Exia_010
      @Exia_010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry if this doesn't make sense

  • @RoyalTrashing
    @RoyalTrashing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ll try that out. I don't like ow 2 that much, the shift from 6v6 to 5v5 killed it for me. Eg what should you do if your main tank is doomfist? He's clearly supposed to be an offtank that dives, too bad your team lacks a real tank. Also, I think healers heal too much and sometimes tanks feel unkillable unless you wipe their healers in 2 secs. Especially orisa or sigma.
    Anyway I don't like the pace of ow2, i preferred the first one tbh

  • @Numinoz
    @Numinoz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first played Gundam Evo , I was like no way I'm playing 2cp here when OW just took it out..

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loool that’s how I feel...

  • @sangheilicommander1056
    @sangheilicommander1056 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so as a hard core gundam fan. gundam evo doesn't show off what makes gundam special. i know we've said this kind of stuff before. but gundam evo doesnt have the polish imo that blizzard has. i think thats a big part of it too. gundam evo was a much smaller team than overwatch for sure. both games are great for sure. ill still play both. but evo speaks more to non gundam fans than it does hardcore gundam fans like myself.
    also when it comes to the maps there are PLENTY of epic maps they could have taken from all the gundam series. its sad to see most of the maps are just hanger bays basically. gundam has space maps , jungle , desert. a wide variety of stuff to pick from. they could take maps where iconic battles happened and use those. but sadly none of the maps in gundam evo are from anything recognizable. just some generic ass hanger in Zeta / UC era and thats about it.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the problem though, I think most non Gundam fans will just go play ow2, so for this game to not take advantage of Gundam as a franchise that it could do without pushing away non Gundam fans too is silly

    • @sangheilicommander1056
      @sangheilicommander1056 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir i 100% agree. if you're interested gundam battle operation 2 is working on a PC port. the network test did not go well. so they have a lot to do. but when its actually officially launched. ill let you know. it would be really worth checking out. they try to be as lore accurate as possible with minor adjustments here and there.
      This wont be for a long time. but i can tell you want Evo to do well and your intentions are good. if its gotten you into gundam. it would be great for you to cover GBO2 PC when it releases. it also will go back many updates so you wont be over whelmed.

  • @misterkillhappy
    @misterkillhappy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing Blue Sazabi, it makes me want to play Gundam Battle Assault 2 again lol.
    On point for the video, ive been getting hooked a bit on OW2, though as f2p I have been kinda just playing and not getting anything for it as appose to OW1 with LootBoxes every level. Though I do like Gundam Evolutions way of giving EVERY character an ability to boost out of combat for heals or into combat to try and win. While OW2 theres my main Zenyatta who is not only the slowest character but is also the lowest healing character, making me the useless one unless I can proc headshots or boops to even the playing field lol.
    Though I have not returned to Gundam Evolution since I started up OW2 lol.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as ow2 has so many problems, I do worry for how much it’ll consume Gundam Evolution. I’m watching the steam charts numbers, but things like EU ranked STILL not working is insane..

  • @mapotofu1427
    @mapotofu1427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have hope for this game. It's got potential, but it's up to Bamco to capitalize on it and start putting more money and time into it.
    Also to be fair for the OW2 comparison. OW2 is by all means is just a patch/update to OW1 and the game had years of work already put into it compared to GunEvo.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ow2 has gotten worse since ow1 tbh lol, but you’re right about Gun Evo’s potential. It really could be quite a solid game, just depends on Bandai

  • @MrHammerofdoom
    @MrHammerofdoom ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like hell am I gonna give Blizzard my phone number

    • @RiriStar1020
      @RiriStar1020 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, until they fully remove that requirement as far as I'm concerned OW2 doesn't exist

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Poor decision from blizzard tbh, but I believe they ended up changing this part 🤔

    • @RiriStar1020
      @RiriStar1020 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir they changed it to where people who played OW1 before a certain date do not need to anymore, but new players to OW2 are still bound by this requirement.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RiriStar1020 ahhh i see

  • @shimegawaren7692
    @shimegawaren7692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly for a map one I agree, gundam have quite a lots of story base map. like Jaburo, Axis, Bao Qu, the colony like side 7 and hell give me a Thunderbolt Sector.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally anything would be better than what we have atm

    • @shimegawaren7692
      @shimegawaren7692 ปีที่แล้ว

      the way I'm seeing this is that, they still figuring out the kind of map to use in this kinda of game.

  • @agre3202
    @agre3202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally should just add a map from each series one at a time to the best of their ability as they add more mobile suits

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds good to me!

  • @akai9-ball404
    @akai9-ball404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get your sentiments so far with the game so far Im gunning for GunEvo simply due to its fast pace combat and large adaptations of other iconic contents of the franchise in Gundam lot of people hate the maps so far in the maps in GunEvo so far Im contented with its pace due to its franchise narrative origins, So far my only criticism for OW2 so far is the shield fiest spam

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      More thoughts are coming! Talked mostly about what Overwatch does better, but it most definitely has serious flaws too

  • @androyus
    @androyus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GunEvo is there for people who just want to have fun playing Gundam FPS. No strict roles to play and you can let loose.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why Bandai needs to improve it as much as possible

  • @blogps3experts
    @blogps3experts ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Overwatch 2 is a more mature game. But I see a bright future for Gundam Evolution if Bandai Namco improves the game overall. I prefer Gundam tho. I just think the game could become more beautiful and better performance. I mean... I get more fps on Overwatch Ultra Settings than Gundam's Ultra settings too... and Overwatch looks better. So... yeah. C'mon Bandai! I believe in you!

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bandai has some work to do. They definitely could fix it up and advertise, so we’ll see how it goes

    • @blogps3experts
      @blogps3experts ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir YES!

  • @oratank
    @oratank ปีที่แล้ว

    even shield up 10:58 "you die like immediately"

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      True 😭

  • @victorbressler7156
    @victorbressler7156 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    maps are better in ow2 but thats it

  • @Axemania21
    @Axemania21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can only see these two games as two flavors of the same thing.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are in a way

  • @bubblehulk7647
    @bubblehulk7647 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved OW but played OW2 and it doesn’t feel the same at all. Fights feel a lot longer to me. I can’t seem to do enough damage to kill anything, but I’m not dying either. Going down to 5 players is such a weird choice…
    Gundam Evolution would feel much better without the lag and constant drops. People think the match is over when you lose one objective and leave…

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      I get you... both games have some major issues

  • @alexcebollero
    @alexcebollero ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My biggest reason I play Evo over OW2 is price and salt. I’ve experienced way less salt in Evo than OW2 because it’s mostly gundam nerds on their which I identify with. OW2 already is plagued with salt and people solely focused on winning. I enjoy winning but with Evo I can still lose and be happy because giant fighting robots. Plus Evo is free, while OW2 is not. Both have terrible stores and cosmetic pricing but I can tolerate that plus the fact Evo refunds your season pass in currency if you complete it is amazing

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll bet you’re feeling less salt because nobody talks in the voice chats 👀 Buut the fact that the season pass gives you enough currency to buy another is big for sure

  • @shadow7988
    @shadow7988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well gundam doesn't ask for my personal info or record my mic while I play so it wins by default

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s fair, those things are quite invasive

  • @CloudKXII
    @CloudKXII ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OW Character design and map design is better. Half of Gundam roster has the same Ult move which is a variation of some kinda charge.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      I punch you in face attack... ah yes love it xD

  • @jacksonwilliams5399
    @jacksonwilliams5399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m still gonna play EVO because even at it’s worst, it’s still it’s own game and I’m a huge Gundam fan. I don’t want to support overwatch 2 right because It’s just not enough to be it’s own game. It’s overwatch 1, but with some new content and an infinitely worse monetization system.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ow2 is even worse than ow1 imo

  • @kevinreyhan209
    @kevinreyhan209 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like this game to success, I really do, but all the flaws aside, My biggest problem with this game is communication between community and the devs. There's basically 0 interaction in the twitter, it just feels low marketed towards the player or any user really. Also with how low the playerbase is, and how the issue keep popping out, not to mention balancing and capital farm (for god sake), but they decide to ignore it and not to touch the issue. Like srsly who would spend 1 month to finish beginner mission ? It's called beginner because you can finish it under 1 week, not one month, that's dumb af.
    I also love some people saying OW2 f2p model is worse than this, like legitly this is worse than OW2. In ow2 you only need to spend like 12 hours to get most of the characters unlocked, in this game you need 1 WEEK (or 10 days I forgot) to get your first unlocked suit. YOU NEED another 2 weeks to get your second suit. What about the rest? god knows, no one know when we will get it. We might not be able to get it ever and always have 3 locked characters in the future (IF this game have future lol)

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’ll be harder to get new characters in the future in ow2, $10 or waiting for around a month

    • @kevinreyhan209
      @kevinreyhan209 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir a month it's not bad for a single locked character when you have like 34 playable characters already.

    • @roxfortd1633
      @roxfortd1633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinreyhan209 Yeah sure a month to wait or pay is not that bad, just wait for a broken champ to come out ( the meta on release kind ). You'll have everyone complain about it being a pay to win situation but if they change the release model, all of their paid customer will just be mad to have paid for something that isn't premium anymore which is potentially killing a big part of blizzard revenues and if they nerf the champ the ones who bought it just because it was meta ( the ones that usually don't buy champ ) surely won't trust blizzard anymore and won't invest more money in the game. The model of OW2 is a mess because it ain't free to play, it has freemium bullshit ( the future champ release system ) and the solo won't be free. They should just have made the same thing as OW, paying a copy of the game with the the only money involving thing being the lootbox thing ( because this seems to be a cancer we won't get rid of nowadays ).

    • @kevinreyhan209
      @kevinreyhan209 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roxfortd1633 still miles better than gundam payment model tho ? if you buy exia and unicorn god knows when will you be able to get that zaku melee. And OW still has advantage in numbers of characters so you have a lot of option, just because one character is op it won't invalidate other characters. The problem with gundam is the characters pool right now are limited, so not having access to zakuu melee or exia or unicorn feels like shit.
      people in master are one-two pony trick so doesn't really matter too.

    • @roxfortd1633
      @roxfortd1633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinreyhan209 I don't compare it to gundam, i compare it to the original OW. Why would you change something that works ?...Oh yeah that's because blizzard is now own by activision and they obviously don't make enough money to pay their employees properly. Jokes aside, this is a bad model, and i feel that GEVO should change too on how you unlock the in game money ( because yes i'm a fan but i know this feels bad that you can right now only get 2 of the 5 paid units with in game currency ).
      Also you said that there are a lot of characters so one being op is not a problem but...did you play when Brigitte released ? Did you play when that demon came and became the better choice for healing because it was also tanky while having lots of control. May I remind you what happened to the overwatch league because of her presence in the roster, when we stopped seeing cool comps just for the same goat comp that was not fun to watch at all. I still remember the day this team was attacking on anubis, they had a nice comp which wasn't goat ( they had a sombra ), they exit the spawn, don't even take a trade under the arch when they recognize their comp, then proceed to all go back in spawn to swap for the goat comp and you could hear a large portion in the public booing them because they were bored of seeing the same thing each match on every map done by both teams.

  • @pacothemajestic
    @pacothemajestic ปีที่แล้ว

    Ultimately, you can tell they had to rush this one out to beat OW2's launch, and its a shame. They could've put more time into polishing a lot of things and adding more content, but if they had it wouldve gone the way of Lawbreakers and Battleborn.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think more time and polish with an ad campaign and this game would’ve been solid

  • @TheMykr0
    @TheMykr0 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OW2 is too slow

    • @deadeye1414
      @deadeye1414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So im not the only one that thinks its too slow

    • @mr.niceguy9394
      @mr.niceguy9394 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deadeye1414 Gundam got me accustomed to fast pace combat and I'm loving it

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do think the idea of having a consistent movement ability is good for the game and Overwatch should even have it

  • @rorymorrissey4970
    @rorymorrissey4970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It'd be more of a discussion if OW2 wasn't made by Blizzard. But since it is, gEvo wins even before comparisons are made.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol did you watch the last 20 seconds of the video before the outro? 👀

  • @TheShardsFamily
    @TheShardsFamily ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe they don't have deathmatch mode lol

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should for sure

  • @GCanopus
    @GCanopus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with the maps but Ngl I always felt the characters in Overwatch are boring tf2 clones. If rule 34 is the only thing keeping your ip alive then that isnt good (see rwby). The mechs in gundam atleast have the virtue of having history and personality while also just being blank slates because they're 'weapons' and not 'characters'. I like comparing this game to tf2 more then ow. I might be biased because I like tf2 and gundam.

    • @mr.niceguy9394
      @mr.niceguy9394 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fr kinda felt like OW characters were fairly basic

    • @ratchet5310
      @ratchet5310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm just waiting for them to add in some G Gundam mobile suits, then we'll have all the variety we need. Personally I feel like tequila Gundam and nether Gundam are must haves.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno, people endured years of no content for the characters. Not just what the characters are in appearance but the feeling of playing them. There are still people hunting for the dopamine hit they got when they played Winston in season 3 ow1. And people have made their whole identity on characters like mercy and symmetra
      Also when I was comparing the two I was talking fundamental design, not their appearance or lore or whatever

  • @tumsfestival8027
    @tumsfestival8027 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just hate blizzard as a company so much that I can’t condone giving them money

  • @akaj2013
    @akaj2013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There are two things I like about OW more than Gundam Evolution:
    #1 - Character designs. OW has more personality and history with each of the characters. I'm invested in the characters a lot more.
    #2 - QP actually feels like QP. Not a fan of rounds in between games. Makes them feel so much longer in GEVO.
    As someone who was looking forward to the latter more than the former, it took a bit of digging to figure out what I personally preferred. There's a lot of similarities between the two.

    • @roxfortd1633
      @roxfortd1633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Real question : Are you a gundam fan or not ?
      I see a lot of people saying that character design is better but I don't understand that take. I've been a fan of OW since 2017 and kept playing in the dark age just for the lore bits that we would get here and there but, to me, as a huge gundam nerd, I feel that Gundam Evo is better in this aspect. Each mobile suit is based upon existing ones so the lore is present, you just have to look at it and regarding the kits most of them have some iconic moves transposed as abilities.
      Lemme give you a few examples ( although be warn if your not familiar with the franchise, some are minor spoilers ) :
      -Sazabi whole kit is basically what the mobile suit does in the only movie it appears in ; beam tomahawk, lot of propulsion power which is a staple for the red comet ( nickname of the pilot ), the shield and shotgun and finally, the funnels
      -Exia's trans-am is literally the ultimate feature of this mobile suit in the anime and it allows the mobile suit to dash at insane speed being much more deadly for a short period of time, its swing ability use one of the seven swords this mobile suit have, the gn daggers it throws can be seen used in the same way in the anime and its main source of damage is your alternate fire button which is the GN sword, its most powerful blade weapon.
      -Barbatos right click and the fact that it pins down the opponent is a direct reference to the first appearance of the mobile suit where it basically destroy a grunt suit by hammering it into the ground, its katana ability where it dives with it and kills instead of neutralizing the opponent is a reference to the moment where the pilot does the same move on an overarmored unit piercing right int the cockpit ( which explains why you can't be repaired, since barbatos kills the pilot ), and lastly, his ult is a reference to the last episode of season one where he activates the full potential of the alaya vijnana ( the name of his ult is alaya vijnana system ) and when he does so in the series the other characters explain that they don't manage to follow his movement with their eyes because it's too fast and in game barbatos just does this ( dashing at insane speed dealing damage to everything that is in its way ).
      - Turn A spawn animation is a reference to the anime where the turn a is discovered in a giant rock statue so that's why you can see rocks falling off it when it first spawns, also its ult is busted be somewhat lore accurate ( last time we saw turn a was for a trailer where this unit basically transform for the worse everything that come to contact with its wings )
      -GM is one that is the perfect example of why it's good for a gundam fan and why it seems generic for a non gundam fan ; it's kit feels basic and military like not something a hero would use and design-wise many of the player that I've encounter and chat with find it basic/soulless, but that's the point, this is a grunt suit, a generic mass produced mobile suit, gundams and their Zeon equivalent ( Sazabi for example ) are top notch units basically tailor made for the pilot.
      And all of that was just from a gameplay perspective, if you take a look at the emotes and skins you will find some references here too ( the gundam alternative selection animation is an iconic shot from the original anime, the medkits are Haros, a friendly robot that many of the main characters possess, the colony drop icon is one of the most impactful event of the entire franchise, the skin for the unicorn gundam which is called another beast is dark blue and yellow referencing the Banshee gundam, which is one of the three singularity mobile suit along with unicorn and phenex etc...).
      TLDR : Character design is faithful to the original material but you have to be a gundam fan to understand how good it is.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Get you on the quickplay portion 100% but I think Gun evo missed out on the human element by not letting people see that someone pilots their mech and such. Like letting you get Amuro or char as a usable pilot etc

    • @akaj2013
      @akaj2013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir Yes. Gives them personality. It's the little things that add up.

    • @akaj2013
      @akaj2013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roxfortd1633 That's exactly what I'm saying. OW characters are video game characters. GEVO suits are from many different anime, and newcomers don't get access to the pilots using them. It's a missed opportunity.

    • @roxfortd1633
      @roxfortd1633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir The thing is that if you compare Evolution to titles like Battle operation, you understand pretty quickly why we don't have that. In battle operation the game is slow paced and there are objectives that are human sized in addition to the mech sized ones so asking to have this kind of gameplay possibility would be stupid in Evolution ( do you really want to get out of your mech only to get killed by a mobile suit that dashes in your way ).
      For the audio part I do agree that it would have been better to have iconic voices but I can understand why they didn't do it. First, they would have to call all the voice actors from the original version AND the many dubbed versions only to find out that people want for the majority to have the original voices which would cause gameplay issues ( if there is mikazuki or amuro's seiyu in the game there is no way i would use the english version of the audio but that would result in me needing to learn a bit of japanese just to understand all of the strategic communication that you get in game and i would do it but most of the players wouldn't ). Also, if you want to have the voice actors it would cause another problem : who's gonna dub all of the grunt mobile suits ( there is a big part of the roster that is in this situation right now ) ? Finally, it may not even be their fault if this feature is not available. Bamco also owns the Super Robot Wars series and in these games there is a notorious issue : voice copyright. Many of fan favorite can't make a comeback because the seiyu is growing old and don't do voice acting anymore ( because yes, if you want amuro in gundam evo it would mean that they have to record some lines exclusive to the game ) and have succeed in signing a contract that says that they are the unique seiyu of a given character so until there is a new version of said anime / until the seiyu dies, they just can't do anything. A good example is Daimos, it's creator is the same as Voltes V and Combattler V but since there is an issue with Daimos VAs we can't have the "romantic robot trilogy" anymore and since only Voltes V and Combattler V got a remake, you can't have new VAs replacing the old ones.
      I think that this issue is always overlooked but it is important to understand that game companies are not big baddies that always do things in a bad way, there are humans that think of how to do things in the best way possible and sometimes if something is not present in the final product, this just may be because it wouldn't be worth it/ possible.

  • @Nuno1137
    @Nuno1137 ปีที่แล้ว

    EU ranked never existed, to me was enough to play ow only.

  • @gizoid5526
    @gizoid5526 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think your argument on the rock paper scissors matchup thing falls apart a considering hero shooters are designed to counter pick
    Obviously some characters in overwatch are designed to be stronger against other characters so I don't see how you have a problem with that like with your sazabi vs pale rider example

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shoot through shield suit beats non stun. Stun beats shoot through shield. But nothing beats stun suits so why not just play them? Notice how people are complaining about 3 melees because they’re a lot of the stun suits.
      Overwatch’s counter system is too strong and oppressive, but if you’re going to thin down the complexity of the game like gun evo did by standardizing hp and giving movement to all suits, then you definitely can’t have counters or else you only have the crappy parts of counters and not the complexity of them in regard to team compositions and the game as a whole. Ow2 still sucks though because of this, and gun evo doesn’t need to go down this path

  • @WolfsIcyRose
    @WolfsIcyRose ปีที่แล้ว

    You should really put more planing into your videos I like your content but it’s just a ramble.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a stream vod 🤔

  • @ecoman351
    @ecoman351 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    gundam>

  • @marvinmorong3204
    @marvinmorong3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if theres no mobile suit after a month then this game is a total money grabber and 1 big flop paid game

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      There will be

    • @xtrxdeadlock9331
      @xtrxdeadlock9331 ปีที่แล้ว

      There might be after season 1 probably because it's going to be a higlighted character and it needs a new season pass skin

  • @Hurbieo
    @Hurbieo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Payload is the worst game mode. That's the main reason I like this game more.

  • @BFsuperior
    @BFsuperior ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do people not like destruction?

    • @user-nn6go1jx1h
      @user-nn6go1jx1h ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the bomb is planted,the game is now about who has their ults up first whoever doesnt losses

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Extremely exploitable. Heavily defense favored so games take 30 minutes frequently and they end in draws or are won by whoever plants and cheeses the defusers the best. It stops becoming a 6v6 team game when the plant occurs. Then becomes a stun or kill the defuser sim

  • @bananaballs3205
    @bananaballs3205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like ow2 more because the characters are more unique, and I'm not really a fan of Gundams maps.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      The maps are bad in Gundam. And they needed to bring in pilots to help humanize Gundam