My No.2 Brother,Terry(i have 3 OLDER brothers) did his Vietnam-era Tour as a 4-year hitch in the USAF.. he joined the Air Force Natl Guard when he got out and joined their ANG Rifle Team... He stayed in the Guard, got his Masters Degree and retired as a Lt.Col. All the while traveling the globe going to Long-range matches. After he retired, he was able to keep his Nat'l Match Garand re-chambered to 7.62 NATO(308 Win). He had occasion to visit a buddy who had access to a 1,000 yd rifle range and it just so happened they were hosting a match. Most shooters brought their custom handbuilt SCOPED rifles... However Mother Nature saw fit to supply a misty foggy day for the match.. So.. Being that nobody wanted to get their precious Big-Dollar Toys wet, Terry broke out his Garand, doped out the sight setting for 1,000 Yards and proceeded to put THREE rounds "in the black"! Needless to say, the other competitors conceeded the WIN to him!!😂
I've bought 4 M1s and 2 M1903A3's from the CMP. Back in the 1980s, I paid the extra and got a numbers matching M1. Also, 5 cases of ammunition in end block clips.
I absolutely love mine. A 1943 receiver, 46 dated barrel, original stock. Yeah the process and wait was a while, but it was so worth it. If I ever want another one, I'm going through the CMP again.
I've bought from the CMP many times, as far back as the early 90's when it was the DCM. I've since bought service and special grade rifles also a M1C and M1D. The CMP is a great source.
Just got my 1st CMP M1. It was one the naval Garands as I didn’t want yet another ammo caliber to support. I have to say I was more than happy with my rifle.
I have bought many from the CMP (DCM) North store, it was moved down the street from the Quonset hut and is a beautiful facility. Purchasing a M1 is easy, just bring your paperwork in and they will issue you a rifle right then, my first was on a HR '43 receiver in '82. It's a 750mi round trip for me so it's a day trip but worth it. Only negative experience I've had was in 2017 when I purchased a Service Grade off the rack with a new stock and a +1/+1 barrel/throat measurement. It literally looked new so I snapped it up with just a short inspection of the action. When I took it to the range long story short it shot patterns not groups. I shot National Match for 30 years so I know what those rifles are capable of. Took it home and inspected the barrel, so fouled with carbon and copper you couldn't see the rifling. I worked 3 weeks with cleaners and the copper was so bad the lands at the muzzle looked like it had Play-Doh all over them. I was going to change the barrel but figured "What the Hell" and I got out the JB Bore Paste, chucked up a cleaning rod in an electric drill, wrapped soaked patches around a brass brush and went at it for 5 minutes. The barrel cleaned up so I took it out and was amazed to see with my reloads that rifle shot just sub moa for 8 rounds, 8 into .930" at 100 yards off the bench. Could have knocked me over with a feather, and it shot better than my old NM M1 or M1a. I bought another last year, a Philippine return Service Grade and it's a great shooter also, both are 2/42 SA builds. Those armors' know what they are doing, that rifle shot to just over 2", much better than issue and it took a whitetail last season at 130 yards, hit high on the shoulder with my 125gr reloads, DRT. The only thing I do to my rifles is add a Garand Gear gas plug. It cushions the action and gas system and allows the safe use of commercial ammo as long as you don't exceed 177gr loads. www.garandgear.com/product/ported-gas-plug/
20 years ago, I got an SA M1 made in November 1944 with a 1944 barrel (all WW2 parts including the stock) from the CMP and paid $500 for it. A few years later the CMP was selling Kimber Model 82 Govt 22 caliber target rifles and I got one for $400, these are super nice target rifles that the government bought but never used. My last CMP purchase was a 1911a1 in the first round, a service grade Colt frame and Colt slide, I paid $1050 for it. I just mailed my packet in to CMP for a second 1911a1 (CMP just recently changed their one 1911 in a lifetime policy).
I was just at the CMP North store at Camp Perry 2 days ago. I got a field grade M1 for $800. I only live an hour and 15 minutes from there. There were only two rifles in the store from the WW II era; January 1945 and March 1945. The goal was to get a WW II era rifle (was hoping for Service Grade but none were from WW II). I got the January rifle. It seems to have the original barrel (same date code) and it and the receiver match in patina. I haven't disassembled it yet so I haven't been able to check out the rest of it. Not expecting a complete original rifle, but I'm real happy with the receiver and barrel seeming to match. The trigger assembly has almost new looking parkerization, so I am also expecting the drawing revision numbers to not match the gun. My understanding is that the guns also had parts "updated" as the parts were considered "improvements" and was to be applied to all the guns, as they became available to service the rifle. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. Looking forward to taking it shooting.
I have never been to the North store, but for you living fairly close to it makes it a lot easier to visit and check for the ones you want. The South store and Talladega store are four hours from me. First few times I went they didn’t have very many WW2 era ones and maybe the earliest was 43 or 44. One time I went and they had quite a few from 41 and one from 40. I picked one of those early ones and after a couple more times going I found another early one. I try to go there twice a year but I really have to plan on a road trip. I’m sure you’ll find some gems if you make the trip out there enough times and check the forums to see if people post about the inventory. The ‘45 field grade sounds pretty good for a first one! 👍
@@BattlefieldCurator - My wife's grandfather was part of D-Day, and he passed away in 1997. She wanted an M1 for the connection to him. She just wanted a rifle from the era, and for it to not have a new stock, but at least look like it was from that era. The rifle we got checked all those boxes and we won't be looking for anymore. Thank you for all your information about the stores closer to you. I saw a video by a couple of the guys who work on the guns there on the CMP YT channel, and they were talking about the parts they have contracted to be produced as "there are only so many of these guns to go around...." and they have run short of some parts to be able to complete some of the guns. I figured we better grab this one since it checked all the boxes, and I am not a gambler to wait and see if one that is more in the middle of the WW II range became available. We're not collectors but are enthusiasts, and also I carry regularly, and my wife is looking to do so as well. We each have a few more additional guns because we were intrigued with them, but are not looking to have a big collection. Though, I have to admit, we do have more than we were expecting to acquire. You know how that goes.....just one more gun...lol.
I just went to the cmp for the first time last Friday and they had garands everywhere ended up with a service grade IHC. cost me around 1298 after taxes and all but totally worth it in my opinion. my throat was at 2+ my muzzle is at 1+ the rifling was very sharp and clean. MY buying experience was great went to the cmp south store. To those on that are questioning it dont it'd totally worth it and the paper work isnt difficult to do.
for me it was totally worth it. Bagged a service grade when they were $750. 5 digit SA with a DuPage stock. Lockup is great and it shoots fine. I'm considering buying another either a rack or field grade to use exclusively for reenacting/ ceremonial adapted for blank firing.
I started looking into CMP after watching more than usual number of TH-cam videos during 2020 lockdowns. I decided to buy an M1 through CMP right when they ran out of Service Grades in early 2021. I waited and waited and finally decided to get an Expert in 2022. Then I got a field grade 1911 in 2023. Hopefully one day they will get more M1 carbines as I would like one of those also.
I have bought 3 M1 Garands from the CMP. First two I paid $495 each for rack grades in 2008 at Camp Perry Ohio. The third one also came from the North store but in Feb of 2023. I paid $700-750 for it. I'm planning on going to Alabama to visit the Talladega and Anniston stores to find a couple more. 🇺🇲
Got my first M1 through the CMP. Lucked out and got a 54 Springfield with 54 barrel. 43 Winchester bolt. All matching stock and wood with nice markings. Couldn't be happier! Oh and it shoots 1 inch groups at 100 yrd all day long!
Only ones in stock on the web today are the expert grade. Do I just keep watching thier website for more to become available? Do the stores have them in stock for in store only purchase? Thank you for making your videos and sharing knowledge.
I always hesitated because of the "marksmanship or other firearms related activity" requirement as I didn't have a match I could go to. But then I e-mailed the CMP and they confirmed our FSC cards (for us in California) qualify for this requirement. So I did all the paper work, got the form notarized, sent it off and just waited. Took a little under a month to receive my M1 and that includes the 10 day waiting period for us here in CA. Super smooth process. I am hoping to order an expert 308 next.
great video. 1 thing you didnt mention is some people dont like buying rifles sight unseen. unless you visit in person its a gamble. some videos on YT show rough looking shooters from CMP. I bought 2 this year and while not pristine or matching parts, they are pretty decent.
I finally saved enough to get an Expert Grade M1 Garand from them. I said hell with trying to buy local, when the cheapest I could find were 1,200 with shot out barrels, and 1800-2500 on average for guns that the CMP sells for 700 in their lowest grade. I saw a nice one, ask the shop to see it, asked how they came about it.. It wad an Expert Grade they had just bought a couple months prior, and were reselling it for 2600.
Big CMP benefit: gun comes to your door, free shipping, no GB/CC fees, no tax (if not in AL), no FFL transfer fee (and no FFL finger fucking your gun). and unlike that rando GB seller/gun store, If it does not work they WILL fix it. I'd sooner pay substantially more for a nice one on the cmp auction (with lots of pictures and gunsmith looked over) than Gun Joker. even if the cmp auctions are over priced atleast my $ goes to them!
Well, I just heard about it. I might have to consider this, but my new M1A arrives in a few days so I'd say I need to wait a while before considering another rifle. Probably need some time to chew on the requirements as well, if I decide to go that way.
I bought my M1 Garand from the CMP about 4 years ago. Service grade Phillipine return. I paid $750. I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I think most people who don't buy from the CMP, think that the process is more difficult than it really is. My neighbor is one such person. I told him it's actually very easy. If you have a concealed carry permit, and belong to an affiliated club, your in. It's that simple.
The sound of having to do paperwork and other things in order to meet the requirements can seem daunting to many because it sounds like extra work or something.
Got mine back in that day when they were $310 delivered, mist a big grab bag, everybody got some kind of random draw. I got lucky, a ‘44 Springfield Armory, like new condition, shoots like a dream. Delivered by USPS in a beat-up cardboard box, in a plastic bag loaded with gobs of cosmoline. Took off the stock and gave the wood the Easy-Off oven cleaner treatment. Some work to get everything cleaned up, but it was sure worth it.
Got CMP Special and Service Grade M1 Garands and a Service Grade 1911 from them. All were in excellent condition! The service grade M1 looks to have been used as a ceremonial rifle, as it has particularly shiny wood and there was a lot of powder fouling in the 1952 replacement barrel.
I’ve got a few Garand’s but not thru the CMP . I’m a shooter and so I’m not gonna pay twice as much on a “matching #” rifle . There for I have to looked all the drawing #’s to see. I do know that on one of my SA the barrel date and production year by serial # are the same year . The serial # is in the 700K range . I also have a Winchester that was a Danish lend lease rifle and the stock has the serial # stamped into the heal of the stock and retains the Danish 300Meter zero sticker on the barrel channel in the stock . The stock have many dings and gouges but that is all part of its history and would never change it . They all shoot great .
would love to get one through them but I am not part of any marksman ship group nor is one available around where I live so I can't meet the requirement, the M-1 Garand is one of my favorite rifles another is the Mauser K-98
Do you have a CWP or CCW permit? Do you know about the Garand Collectors Association? Most people meet the requirements with those two, a CWP and an annual GCA membership. I’m sure there are plenty of videos on TH-cam that can explain it.
I purchased 2 Garands from the CMP. The first was a total mix master field grade, and pretty rough. The second was a H&R service grade that only needed a bolt to make it correct. Luck of the draw. 😅
Bought mine from the south store in person last week. A December 43 winchester receiver with a June 55 barrel. 2 throat and 2 muzzle. Gi wood. Less than a grand after tax and very easy paperwork
I bought my service grade from the north store and had a lot of trouble with it. Sent it to Alabama 3 times for repair and sold it to somebody who said they could fix it. Looking to try again though.
I will definitely use the CMP, haven’t yet. I’m working through collecting some cheaper caliber WW1 - WW2 rifles before spending the big bucks of $700.
👍👍yes we all need to do. Ya know, I’ve just thought of a good reason why people don’t take advantage! You can get a modern, new, battle rifle for roughly the same price as the outdated relic.
Here’s my video but there are other videos out there that you can watch: How to Get an M1 Garand from the CMP | Cheapest Deal around! th-cam.com/video/lO6QOhCmWnY/w-d-xo.html
I Paid $600 for a Numbers Matching K98K German Mauser. Mint Condition, Never Seen Combat. I sure as Hell would pay $700 for an M1 Garand. Most of the M1's By Me are running $1400 to $3000 Retail.
Went to the North Store at Camp Perry Thursday and picked up my first M1 Garand. 1943 service grade Springfield Armory, barrel is from 1943 and all parts stamped with anything are stamped S.A. Only thing that may discourage somebody is some of these rifles have new stocks, including mine.
Canadian here. I love cmp I wish I could just drive on over to buy a few. I mean 5 or more lol but that will never happen only in an alternate universe. Anyways I’m a history buff, mainly ww2 I own quite a bit of ww2 firearms. Out of my collection my most cherished rifle is my M1 Garand Springfield 30-06, made September 1943 with bayonet and grenade launcher. It was a gift cost $4000 but! minus the heavy tag it still shoots true and I’m glad I have it. You could pay 2,500 for a .308 Beretta or Breda model but it’s not the same feeling. Unfortunately Garand’s are outrageous prices over here nonetheless, You are paying for 4 things for an Garand. #1 the limited supply & demand #2 original manufacture: Springfield #3 original calibre 30-06 #4 the historical/collectable part of it. So ya if you want an M1 Garand you pay big.
believe its the only semi centerfire rifle in canada you can load >5 into? probably doesnt hurt. Id imagine a 308 tanker 18.5" non restricted with a red dot would be awfully handy up there.
Sent in my paperwork a month ago for an expert grade 308. Haven’t heard a peep from them. They wont pick up the phone when I call and haven’t returned my email. Just about given up.
It’s a mail in order process, not a bid unless you go to their Auction site. I’m not sure about their shipping process when it comes to Cali. Check out thecmp.org
(Years ago) I bought a “RMCSPECIAL”, it had a 53’ receiver, a new stock and a new barrel. It is a freaking absolute tac-driver! Is it a “WWII Garand? Nope, nor do I care!
I paid 1200 for my garand from RTI. She's beat up and battle scarred, but she's all original after being rebarreeled in the 60s. SThat's my garand. I dont need any more.
I knew about the CMP a few years ago. I would just look at the web site occasionally. Oh wow, I have to do paperwork to get one? I have to show affiliation with an organization and prove some kind of marksmanship training or competition shooting?? I just like guns and occasional shooting out in the back 40. Well I finally conquered my hesitations and looked through the couple sheets. Who would have fingered that being retired military, and a member of the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), and having a concealed weapons permit not only met, but exceeded the requirements. More than likely you probably have one, if not both already met. And even if you don't, its just a couple keystrokes and a modest fee in most cases to check that box. For mail order you have to get a notary which can be done probably at your bank. I used a bank down the road from me that I am not even a member of, which the nice lady there did for free. Got a Field Grade and an Expert Grade, no complaints. You just have to wait a little bit, and make sure someone is at home on the day of delivery to show a drivers license and sign for them. I received an email from the CMP the day prior to delivery and a text from FedEx as well. Watch the couple TH-cam videos they have linked on the M1 Garande page. It pretty much explains the process, and the different grades. If you are just a shooter, this is a great weapon in my opinion. If you are a nit picky avid collector then you already know what you are going to do. It's just a personal thing at that point. Good luck.
That being said, I got both mine from the CMP. First one was hand picked at the North store. Second one I ordered last year, got a 6 digit serial! Ended up having to replace the stock on it cause it was toast, and the barrel swallows the bullet.
Well that is no bueno! I would have called them to get a replacement. Their customer service is usually pretty good. I go there in person and have seen some better ones form VFW posts or Danish or Turkish returns
Mine definitely came from the Philippines returns. Pretty sure the stock was handmade in the Philippines lol. With a brand new stock from Dupage Trading, it looks beautiful!
The ones from 20 years ago, yeah, awesome deal. The CMP today? Not a chance unless it is the experts. The last two I purchased were massive pit monsters with absolutely worthless barrels gauging at almost 5 and more for the TE and ME. If I was gonna do it again, I would visit the CMP stores and purchase it in person. This whole "roll the dice|" and take your chances in the rack grade and service grade for the current Filipino M1 Garands. DICEY and caveat emptor. Calling CMP customer service didn't help, they said it was in shootable condition and that was a lie. Now the EXPERT condition, yeah, looks great from what I am seen.
@BattlefieldCurator my rack grade rifle...every single part was useless except the receiver which required a good blasting and cleaning. I lucked out on a .308 Navy conversion kit from many moons ago so I was lucky and all of the parts was brand new NOS. But my setup is just a statistical average of none. I did the 1911 service and I did fine with it and I'm happy as a clam. But rack grade? Never again.
Everyone I show my M1 to are AMAZED on it's condition for the cost! BE AWARE a "compliant/enhanced Drivers License" is NOT a valid form of identification for proof if citizenship, I had to drive back home without my rifle and email them my birth certificate then they shipped my rifle to me. Was kinda a bummer I couldn't leave there that day without my rifle but I still get the one I hand picked! Oh yeah and the CMP is a GOOD cause, they take that money to run shooting clubs and classes, what better way the keep the 2A community going than teaching people how to safely use firearms? Even is someone does not choose to own a firearm if they have been taught how to use one they are less likely to want to take our guns from us.
It’s not shiesty to buy Garands and resell them. If people don’t want to do the paper work to buy them from the CMP, and they guy that does and cabelas and bass pro buys them from everyone who will sell them to em, that’s how it goes.
I “impulse” bought a local shops m1 that’s a correct grade 1955 with all matching drawing lots og barrel and usgi stock for more than I would have paid for a lottery m1 from the cmp and I absolutely don’t regret it
The military makes their rifles to shoot, the parts work together, but they may not be "period correct", but it shoots. They may be the Karen's of the M1 Garand crowd. as long as it feels ok and pushes lead out the little end without blowing up in my face, lol (Blowing up in your face is usually a once in a lifetime experience that no one talks about)
3:26, OP calls capitalism shiesty, OK dude, sell me all your MILSURPs, CMP and otherwise, for not a penny more than what you paid for them, last week or 20 years ago, time immaterial. This cry-baby behavior about people buying & selling M1's from CMP is un-American and anti-capitalist.
All of my M1 Garands came from CMP. Best deals out there on Garands.
Definitely 💯
Too much bullshit involved getting one from them
@@JosephDickerson-g2xwhich part? The being a citizen? Or just signing up for a single shooting event?
My No.2 Brother,Terry(i have 3 OLDER brothers) did his Vietnam-era Tour as a 4-year hitch in the USAF.. he joined the Air Force Natl Guard when he got out and joined their ANG Rifle Team... He stayed in the Guard, got his Masters Degree and retired as a Lt.Col. All the while traveling the globe going to Long-range matches. After he retired, he was able to keep his Nat'l Match Garand re-chambered to 7.62 NATO(308 Win). He had occasion to visit a buddy who had access to a 1,000 yd rifle range and it just so happened they were hosting a match. Most shooters brought their custom handbuilt SCOPED rifles... However Mother Nature saw fit to supply a misty foggy day for the match.. So.. Being that nobody wanted to get their precious Big-Dollar Toys wet, Terry broke out his Garand, doped out the sight setting for 1,000 Yards and proceeded to put THREE rounds "in the black"! Needless to say, the other competitors conceeded the WIN to him!!😂
Lol nice!
1000 yards isnt easy with standard ball ammo
I couldnt buy M1 Garand from the CMP because I am not a US citizen. Otherwise the CMP would of been my first place to buy a M1.
True, you’d have to actually meet those requirements.
I've bought 4 M1s and 2 M1903A3's from the CMP. Back in the 1980s, I paid the extra and got a numbers matching M1. Also, 5 cases of ammunition in end block clips.
Awesome!
I wish I had a piggy🐖 bank that full🤔
@NoGoBu They were cheaper than you think. The numbers matching M1 was $300 , and the others were 150. A case of ammunition $50.
I absolutely love mine. A 1943 receiver, 46 dated barrel, original stock. Yeah the process and wait was a while, but it was so worth it. If I ever want another one, I'm going through the CMP again.
Nice!
I've bought from the CMP many times, as far back as the early 90's when it was the DCM. I've since bought service and special grade rifles also a M1C and M1D. The CMP is a great source.
It’s just surprising how many people don’t know about it
Just got my 1st CMP M1. It was one the naval Garands as I didn’t want yet another ammo caliber to support. I have to say I was more than happy with my rifle.
Awesome 😎
I have bought many from the CMP (DCM) North store, it was moved down the street from the Quonset hut and is a beautiful facility. Purchasing a M1 is easy, just bring your paperwork in and they will issue you a rifle right then, my first was on a HR '43 receiver in '82. It's a 750mi round trip for me so it's a day trip but worth it. Only negative experience I've had was in 2017 when I purchased a Service Grade off the rack with a new stock and a +1/+1 barrel/throat measurement. It literally looked new so I snapped it up with just a short inspection of the action. When I took it to the range long story short it shot patterns not groups. I shot National Match for 30 years so I know what those rifles are capable of. Took it home and inspected the barrel, so fouled with carbon and copper you couldn't see the rifling. I worked 3 weeks with cleaners and the copper was so bad the lands at the muzzle looked like it had Play-Doh all over them. I was going to change the barrel but figured "What the Hell" and I got out the JB Bore Paste, chucked up a cleaning rod in an electric drill, wrapped soaked patches around a brass brush and went at it for 5 minutes. The barrel cleaned up so I took it out and was amazed to see with my reloads that rifle shot just sub moa for 8 rounds, 8 into .930" at 100 yards off the bench. Could have knocked me over with a feather, and it shot better than my old NM M1 or M1a. I bought another last year, a Philippine return Service Grade and it's a great shooter also, both are 2/42 SA builds. Those armors' know what they are doing, that rifle shot to just over 2", much better than issue and it took a whitetail last season at 130 yards, hit high on the shoulder with my 125gr reloads, DRT. The only thing I do to my rifles is add a Garand Gear gas plug. It cushions the action and gas system and allows the safe use of commercial ammo as long as you don't exceed 177gr loads. www.garandgear.com/product/ported-gas-plug/
Very cool, thanks for the info! So I might have to try the JB Bore Paste, brush, and drill method… I got a couple of rifles with some bad fouling 🍻
20 years ago, I got an SA M1 made in November 1944 with a 1944 barrel (all WW2 parts including the stock) from the CMP and paid $500 for it. A few years later the CMP was selling Kimber Model 82 Govt 22 caliber target rifles and I got one for $400, these are super nice target rifles that the government bought but never used. My last CMP purchase was a 1911a1 in the first round, a service grade Colt frame and Colt slide, I paid $1050 for it. I just mailed my packet in to CMP for a second 1911a1 (CMP just recently changed their one 1911 in a lifetime policy).
Yea I’m glad they changed their M1911 policy!
My 1st two were $ 400.❗️What can I say, I'm old 👴
lol
I was just at the CMP North store at Camp Perry 2 days ago. I got a field grade M1 for $800. I only live an hour and 15 minutes from there. There were only two rifles in the store from the WW II era; January 1945 and March 1945. The goal was to get a WW II era rifle (was hoping for Service Grade but none were from WW II). I got the January rifle. It seems to have the original barrel (same date code) and it and the receiver match in patina. I haven't disassembled it yet so I haven't been able to check out the rest of it. Not expecting a complete original rifle, but I'm real happy with the receiver and barrel seeming to match. The trigger assembly has almost new looking parkerization, so I am also expecting the drawing revision numbers to not match the gun. My understanding is that the guns also had parts "updated" as the parts were considered "improvements" and was to be applied to all the guns, as they became available to service the rifle. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. Looking forward to taking it shooting.
I have never been to the North store, but for you living fairly close to it makes it a lot easier to visit and check for the ones you want. The South store and Talladega store are four hours from me. First few times I went they didn’t have very many WW2 era ones and maybe the earliest was 43 or 44. One time I went and they had quite a few from 41 and one from 40. I picked one of those early ones and after a couple more times going I found another early one. I try to go there twice a year but I really have to plan on a road trip. I’m sure you’ll find some gems if you make the trip out there enough times and check the forums to see if people post about the inventory. The ‘45 field grade sounds pretty good for a first one! 👍
@@BattlefieldCurator - My wife's grandfather was part of D-Day, and he passed away in 1997. She wanted an M1 for the connection to him. She just wanted a rifle from the era, and for it to not have a new stock, but at least look like it was from that era. The rifle we got checked all those boxes and we won't be looking for anymore. Thank you for all your information about the stores closer to you.
I saw a video by a couple of the guys who work on the guns there on the CMP YT channel, and they were talking about the parts they have contracted to be produced as "there are only so many of these guns to go around...." and they have run short of some parts to be able to complete some of the guns. I figured we better grab this one since it checked all the boxes, and I am not a gambler to wait and see if one that is more in the middle of the WW II range became available.
We're not collectors but are enthusiasts, and also I carry regularly, and my wife is looking to do so as well. We each have a few more additional guns because we were intrigued with them, but are not looking to have a big collection. Though, I have to admit, we do have more than we were expecting to acquire. You know how that goes.....just one more gun...lol.
I just went to the cmp for the first time last Friday and they had garands everywhere ended up with a service grade IHC. cost me around 1298 after taxes and all but totally worth it in my opinion. my throat was at 2+ my muzzle is at 1+ the rifling was very sharp and clean. MY buying experience was great went to the cmp south store. To those on that are questioning it dont it'd totally worth it and the paper work isnt difficult to do.
Glad to hear, sounds like you got a great rifle there
for me it was totally worth it. Bagged a service grade when they were $750. 5 digit SA with a DuPage stock. Lockup is great and it shoots fine. I'm considering buying another either a rack or field grade to use exclusively for reenacting/ ceremonial adapted for blank firing.
Ah ok, yea put it to good use if you get another one!
I started looking into CMP after watching more than usual number of TH-cam videos during 2020 lockdowns. I decided to buy an M1 through CMP right when they ran out of Service Grades in early 2021. I waited and waited and finally decided to get an Expert in 2022. Then I got a field grade 1911 in 2023. Hopefully one day they will get more M1 carbines as I would like one of those also.
I am not sure if or when they may get M1 Carbines again. There is some surplus still left in Korea supposedly
I heard they were set to import a bunch of surplus from Korea a couple of years ago, but the Biden administration shut it down.
I have bought 3 M1 Garands from the CMP. First two I paid $495 each for rack grades in 2008 at Camp Perry Ohio. The third one also came from the North store but in Feb of 2023. I paid $700-750 for it. I'm planning on going to Alabama to visit the Talladega and Anniston stores to find a couple more. 🇺🇲
Got my first M1 through the CMP. Lucked out and got a 54 Springfield with 54 barrel. 43 Winchester bolt. All matching stock and wood with nice markings. Couldn't be happier! Oh and it shoots 1 inch groups at 100 yrd all day long!
Awesome! Glad to hear
Only ones in stock on the web today are the expert grade. Do I just keep watching thier website for more to become available? Do the stores have them in stock for in store only purchase? Thank you for making your videos and sharing knowledge.
I guess I was lucky. I got mine for free just participating in the DCM program a long time ago.
That was a great time to get them!
I always hesitated because of the "marksmanship or other firearms related activity" requirement as I didn't have a match I could go to. But then I e-mailed the CMP and they confirmed our FSC cards (for us in California) qualify for this requirement. So I did all the paper work, got the form notarized, sent it off and just waited. Took a little under a month to receive my M1 and that includes the 10 day waiting period for us here in CA. Super smooth process. I am hoping to order an expert 308 next.
Awesome!
great video. 1 thing you didnt mention is some people dont like buying rifles sight unseen. unless you visit in person its a gamble. some videos on YT show rough looking shooters from CMP. I bought 2 this year and while not pristine or matching parts, they are pretty decent.
That is true! I tend to visit the CMP and as of lately a lot of the rougher Philippine returns are making their way to mail order customers
Ordered myself an Expert grade this past week!
Nice! Hope it turns out great
Just sent in my paperwork last week. If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take to hear back from them?
I want to add an M1 Garand to my collection someday
But for now I’m occupied on the Savage 99 EG in 300 savage
I finally saved enough to get an Expert Grade M1 Garand from them. I said hell with trying to buy local, when the cheapest I could find were 1,200 with shot out barrels, and 1800-2500 on average for guns that the CMP sells for 700 in their lowest grade. I saw a nice one, ask the shop to see it, asked how they came about it.. It wad an Expert Grade they had just bought a couple months prior, and were reselling it for 2600.
Yep, it’s sad to see it happen. Good luck with the one you get from the CMP 🍻
I know for me the main reason for me is going through the process particularly the being apart of a shooting organization that is recognized by them.
Big CMP benefit: gun comes to your door, free shipping, no GB/CC fees, no tax (if not in AL), no FFL transfer fee (and no FFL finger fucking your gun). and unlike that rando GB seller/gun store, If it does not work they WILL fix it.
I'd sooner pay substantially more for a nice one on the cmp auction (with lots of pictures and gunsmith looked over) than Gun Joker. even if the cmp auctions are over priced atleast my $ goes to them!
Well, I just heard about it. I might have to consider this, but my new M1A arrives in a few days so I'd say I need to wait a while before considering another rifle. Probably need some time to chew on the requirements as well, if I decide to go that way.
I bought my M1 Garand from the CMP about 4 years ago. Service grade Phillipine return. I paid $750. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
I think most people who don't buy from the CMP, think that the process is more difficult than it really is. My neighbor is one such person. I told him it's actually very easy. If you have a concealed carry permit, and belong to an affiliated club, your in. It's that simple.
Yep it’s simple!
The sound of having to do paperwork and other things in order to meet the requirements can seem daunting to many because it sounds like extra work or something.
Very informative. I like your channel already! We actually just met this morning through a post off of Relic life an old friend of mine Ryan
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it, maybe we’ll go shooting or something one of these days. If you’re getting into podcasts, I’d be down to be on your channel.
@@BattlefieldCurator That is awesome 👍, I'm already looking forward to it!
I just drove to Talledega and snagged 2 M1's... paperwork took all but 5 mins.
Nice! Yea I was thinking of making a trip out there soon
Got mine back in that day when they were $310 delivered, mist a big grab bag, everybody got some kind of random draw. I got lucky, a ‘44 Springfield Armory, like new condition, shoots like a dream. Delivered by USPS in a beat-up cardboard box, in a plastic bag loaded with gobs of cosmoline. Took off the stock and gave the wood the Easy-Off oven cleaner treatment. Some work to get everything cleaned up, but it was sure worth it.
Awesome!
Got CMP Special and Service Grade M1 Garands and a Service Grade 1911 from them. All were in excellent condition! The service grade M1 looks to have been used as a ceremonial rifle, as it has particularly shiny wood and there was a lot of powder fouling in the 1952 replacement barrel.
Nice! I bet the bore looks good though
Pitted, but the rifling is like new.
I’ve got a few Garand’s but not thru the CMP .
I’m a shooter and so I’m not gonna pay twice as much on a “matching #” rifle . There for I have to looked all the drawing #’s to see. I do know that on one of my SA the barrel date and production year by serial # are the same year . The serial # is in the 700K range . I also have a Winchester that was a Danish lend lease rifle and the stock has the serial # stamped into the heal of the stock and retains the Danish 300Meter zero sticker on the barrel channel in the stock . The stock have many dings and gouges but that is all part of its history and would never change it .
They all shoot great .
would love to get one through them but I am not part of any marksman ship group nor is one available around where I live so I can't meet the requirement, the M-1 Garand is one of my favorite rifles another is the Mauser K-98
Do you have a CWP or CCW permit? Do you know about the Garand Collectors Association? Most people meet the requirements with those two, a CWP and an annual GCA membership. I’m sure there are plenty of videos on TH-cam that can explain it.
@@BattlefieldCurator no i don't have either of those.
I've got one from the CMP, complete rebuild... it's awsome...
Its like $25 to be in a cmp affiliated club for a year. Pick any one you want, even in a different state.
Indeed, the one that is pretty popular is the Garand Collectors Association
Used to be able to get one for 165.00 from the dcm. Only allowed one in your lifetime back then.
I purchased 2 Garands from the CMP. The first was a total mix master field grade, and pretty rough. The second was a H&R service grade that only needed a bolt to make it correct. Luck of the draw. 😅
Wow that’s really lucky because it’s tough to get almost all parts correct from the CMP service/ field/ rack grade
Bought mine from the south store in person last week.
A December 43 winchester receiver with a June 55 barrel. 2 throat and 2 muzzle. Gi wood.
Less than a grand after tax and very easy paperwork
I would personally love to get a 1903 from the CMP. I just learned about it and would definitely love to have it as a wall flower and range toy.
Right on!
Got my Korea era M1 service grade for $700. The VFW or American Legion + a conceal carry permit will get you what you need.
Nice!
I've wanted one for years but I can't find one
If you're in military or was in military, you don't need club and markmanship requirements.
I bought my service grade from the north store and had a lot of trouble with it. Sent it to Alabama 3 times for repair and sold it to somebody who said they could fix it. Looking to try again though.
They say you can use a hunting license. Will a standard Bird and Mammal hunting license work?
Got mine 20 yrs ago. Paid about $350. Bought it off an individual. Has all matching parts.
Best way to get garand got my service grade yesterday
I will definitely use the CMP, haven’t yet. I’m working through collecting some cheaper caliber WW1 - WW2 rifles before spending the big bucks of $700.
Awesome, good luck!
CMP, isn’t RTI…..just saying
I love the CMP. As a firearms organization they get all my money. All of it 😊
just ordered one yesterday!
Nice! Hope it’s a great one
Hi,... Great video. Thanks... My story is that I'm not really a club guy.... As in joining a "club". What club would you recommend for me?....
👍👍yes we all need to do. Ya know, I’ve just thought of a good reason why people don’t take advantage! You can get a modern, new, battle rifle for roughly the same price as the outdated relic.
There are many reasons why people buy vintage M1 Garands.
Bought my first one from DCM, have purchased more fromCMP, great values.
Definitely great deals
Where can I get the paperwork to fill up to buy the m1 garand?
Here’s my video but there are other videos out there that you can watch: How to Get an M1 Garand from the CMP | Cheapest Deal around!
th-cam.com/video/lO6QOhCmWnY/w-d-xo.html
I bought one from the CMP in 2021. Wish I grabbed 2 or 3 at the time.
Ah there were some good looking Garands back then
I got lucky back at the end of July to pick out a beautiful service grade IHC at the south store
Nice!
I Paid $600 for a Numbers Matching K98K German Mauser. Mint Condition, Never Seen Combat. I sure as Hell would pay $700 for an M1 Garand. Most of the M1's By Me are running $1400 to $3000 Retail.
That is actually a great deal on a Mauser 98k these days
My DCM M1 was $165.00 in 1991. That was then this is now.
Wow!
So you have to wait two years to get one from the CMP? Most people would pay double to get it right now.
I plan on visiting them in October
Nice! Have a fun trip 😎
Got one for 300 years ago and an M1 carbine for 150
Went to the North Store at Camp Perry Thursday and picked up my first M1 Garand. 1943 service grade Springfield Armory, barrel is from 1943 and all parts stamped with anything are stamped S.A. Only thing that may discourage somebody is some of these rifles have new stocks, including mine.
Ah ok cool
How much was that service grade?
@@wirelessone2986$900
@@GrizzlyCompany My Service grade stock was not new lol. Definitely has character.
@Battlefield Curator I got mine for $650 from the CMP and had Mark Novak look it over and he said I got a great deal.
Whoah! Nice! 😎🍻
@@BattlefieldCurator Btw it was the same Garand in the Headspacing Video he did of the M1 Garand, I was there too.
i bought only the receiver and built my own with parts i picked out cost than their rebuiilds
Nice!
CMP has an excellent program!
Indeed!
Yhup. All my M1903s, M1903A3s, M1917s, M1 Garands & M1 Carbines came from the CMP. But, uh... got mine long ago much cheaper 😊
Canadian here.
I love cmp I wish I could just drive on over to buy a few. I mean 5 or more lol but that will never happen only in an alternate universe.
Anyways I’m a history buff, mainly ww2
I own quite a bit of ww2 firearms.
Out of my collection my most cherished rifle is my M1 Garand Springfield 30-06, made September 1943 with bayonet and grenade launcher. It was a gift
cost $4000 but! minus the heavy tag it still shoots true and I’m glad I have it. You could pay 2,500 for a .308 Beretta or Breda model but it’s not the same feeling. Unfortunately Garand’s are outrageous prices over here nonetheless,
You are paying for 4 things for an Garand.
#1 the limited supply & demand
#2 original manufacture: Springfield
#3 original calibre 30-06
#4 the historical/collectable part of it. So ya if you want an M1 Garand you pay big.
Interesting. Here in the states, usually the Winchesters and International Harvester ones go for more from a dealer.
believe its the only semi centerfire rifle in canada you can load >5 into? probably doesnt hurt. Id imagine a 308 tanker 18.5" non restricted with a red dot would be awfully handy up there.
Is there a cmp style organization for other surplus rifles, like Mosins, mausers, or Enfields?
I wish… maybe in Canada or another country??🤔
I have one for sale. It was passed down to me when my mom passed away. I dont know alot about guns and i have no use for it
Sent in my paperwork a month ago for an expert grade 308. Haven’t heard a peep from them. They wont pick up the phone when I call and haven’t returned my email. Just about given up.
how long does it typically take to ship the rifle once you win the bid?
also, do they ship to FFLs in california?
It’s a mail in order process, not a bid unless you go to their Auction site. I’m not sure about their shipping process when it comes to Cali. Check out thecmp.org
(Years ago) I bought a “RMCSPECIAL”, it had a 53’ receiver, a new stock and a new barrel. It is a freaking absolute tac-driver! Is it a “WWII Garand? Nope, nor do I care!
Hey, man, would really like to contact you about an old swiss Looks different than the k thirty one though would really like your input thanks
Probably a Swiss K1911?
@BattlefieldCurator yess that's it thanks man
I paid 1200 for my garand from RTI. She's beat up and battle scarred, but she's all original after being rebarreeled in the 60s. SThat's my garand. I dont need any more.
I was contemplating getting one just because they were in Ethiopia
Cheapest you can find them now is 1100, cmp is practically sold out of them
What does CMP stand for?
Civilian Marksmanship Program
We're is the way to get a M1 Garand or m1 carbine
How to Get an M1 Garand from the CMP | Cheapest Deal around!
th-cam.com/video/lO6QOhCmWnY/w-d-xo.html
I knew about the CMP a few years ago. I would just look at the web site occasionally. Oh wow, I have to do paperwork to get one? I have to show affiliation with an organization and prove some kind of marksmanship training or competition shooting?? I just like guns and occasional shooting out in the back 40. Well I finally conquered my hesitations and looked through the couple sheets. Who would have fingered that being retired military, and a member of the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), and having a concealed weapons permit not only met, but exceeded the requirements. More than likely you probably have one, if not both already met. And even if you don't, its just a couple keystrokes and a modest fee in most cases to check that box. For mail order you have to get a notary which can be done probably at your bank. I used a bank down the road from me that I am not even a member of, which the nice lady there did for free. Got a Field Grade and an Expert Grade, no complaints. You just have to wait a little bit, and make sure someone is at home on the day of delivery to show a drivers license and sign for them. I received an email from the CMP the day prior to delivery and a text from FedEx as well. Watch the couple TH-cam videos they have linked on the M1 Garande page. It pretty much explains the process, and the different grades. If you are just a shooter, this is a great weapon in my opinion. If you are a nit picky avid collector then you already know what you are going to do. It's just a personal thing at that point. Good luck.
I mean it used to be amazing. But these days the stocks have dwindled and the cheap graded guns they have are pitted and have pretty crappy barrels.
That being said, I got both mine from the CMP. First one was hand picked at the North store. Second one I ordered last year, got a 6 digit serial! Ended up having to replace the stock on it cause it was toast, and the barrel swallows the bullet.
Well that is no bueno! I would have called them to get a replacement. Their customer service is usually pretty good. I go there in person and have seen some better ones form VFW posts or Danish or Turkish returns
Mine definitely came from the Philippines returns. Pretty sure the stock was handmade in the Philippines lol. With a brand new stock from Dupage Trading, it looks beautiful!
The ones from 20 years ago, yeah, awesome deal. The CMP today? Not a chance unless it is the experts. The last two I purchased were massive pit monsters with absolutely worthless barrels gauging at almost 5 and more for the TE and ME. If I was gonna do it again, I would visit the CMP stores and purchase it in person. This whole "roll the dice|" and take your chances in the rack grade and service grade for the current Filipino M1 Garands. DICEY and caveat emptor. Calling CMP customer service didn't help, they said it was in shootable condition and that was a lie. Now the EXPERT condition, yeah, looks great from what I am seen.
Wow… yea I always tend to go in person. I might try a mail in order just to see what I get.
@BattlefieldCurator my rack grade rifle...every single part was useless except the receiver which required a good blasting and cleaning. I lucked out on a .308 Navy conversion kit from many moons ago so I was lucky and all of the parts was brand new NOS. But my setup is just a statistical average of none. I did the 1911 service and I did fine with it and I'm happy as a clam. But rack grade? Never again.
Everyone I show my M1 to are AMAZED on it's condition for the cost!
BE AWARE a "compliant/enhanced Drivers License" is NOT a valid form of identification for proof if citizenship, I had to drive back home without my rifle and email them my birth certificate then they shipped my rifle to me. Was kinda a bummer I couldn't leave there that day without my rifle but I still get the one I hand picked! Oh yeah and the CMP is a GOOD cause, they take that money to run shooting clubs and classes, what better way the keep the 2A community going than teaching people how to safely use firearms? Even is someone does not choose to own a firearm if they have been taught how to use one they are less likely to want to take our guns from us.
The cmp is the best place to buy M-1.
I’d agree!
Now they are about $2,000. Getting higher every year.
Do you guys know when the estore from cmp will be back up and running?
Sorry, I have no idea
Probably after Biden is out of office.
Mine was 525. Beat that
Not today. Cheapest one, if you can find one in stock, is over $1,000 and it's not original.
The CMP is the best honest place to get great collectibles that you can actually use 😊
Yes, and if there is a problem, their customer service is really good
And take your hate off when indoors.
I always buy from CMP! have 2 M1s and a 1911
Yes me too!
I even get ammo from them
I still have yet to get one. I need to. My collection will look better with a garand and a krag lol
Nothing to it...Easier still if you have a DD214.. Or go to Anniston, Akabama or Port Clinton Ohio.. camp perry
It’s not shiesty to buy Garands and resell them. If people don’t want to do the paper work to buy them from the CMP, and they guy that does and cabelas and bass pro buys them from everyone who will sell them to em, that’s how it goes.
I “impulse” bought a local shops m1 that’s a correct grade 1955 with all matching drawing lots og barrel and usgi stock for more than I would have paid for a lottery m1 from the cmp and I absolutely don’t regret it
"Mismatched....not MIXmatched! Sorry, OCD. 😅
😂
I paid $2600 for a expert grade M1 Garand from a gun store I guess some guy bought it from the CMP and flip it.
Oh snap!
Ouch
I see experts for $2000 selling (with bids) all over GB. I dont get it. its new wood new barrel pretty much all the same
Welp no more cmp is all out of the under 1000$ ones if you order one anyway
Their stores have them. CMP forums is a great resource for inventory information
The military makes their rifles to shoot, the parts work together, but they may not be "period correct", but it shoots. They may be the Karen's of the M1 Garand crowd. as long as it feels ok and pushes lead out the little end without blowing up in my face, lol (Blowing up in your face is usually a once in a lifetime experience that no one talks about)
After watching these guys, 99% of streamers are running aimbot
3:26, OP calls capitalism shiesty, OK dude, sell me all your MILSURPs, CMP and otherwise, for not a penny more than what you paid for them, last week or 20 years ago, time immaterial. This cry-baby behavior about people buying & selling M1's from CMP is un-American and anti-capitalist.
Getting one is a pain in the ass but worth it. Just don’t get a rack grade. Those are usually trash.
I’ve seen some good ones and I’ve seen some bad ones. More recently, I’ve seen a lot more bad rack grades