Might be a bit late, marduk tackle can be 1+2 or 2 break depending on the distance. If you got tackle right in front of your face (where duk picks you up first and then slam you down) its 1+2 break. If you get tackle from far away, its a 2 break with 1 frame break window, so kinda impossible in online match
Fantastic video, honestly this is essential defense you need to know and just can't quickly find in it's entirity. Thanks to you I know my options my options and the best thing to do! Especially with King and Dragonov which are both my mains. Thanks!
Tekken 7 owes so much if it's success to TH-cam , it's not even fucking funny. Not a single word about this in the game. The amount of work required just to get into the basic fundamentals of the game. Edit : leg locks and armbars work differently ??? Jesus
I was using Nina and my friend Paul. I had 5 HP left. Paul tackled me but I managed to turn over the tackle and do one of my own which I chose to do arm break but Paul reversed my reversal tackle with his own arm break. It was so excilirating even though I died.
I wasn't expecting an 8 minute video about tackling but it was filled with genuine information. This game has some real quirks to it that aren't as readily available as I thought
Awesome video. I experimented 112~1+2spaming of Dragunov and Paul, and it still works even though this video was uploaded 2 years ago. Also, while the commands introduced in the video to break punches and arm bar are 1+2 and 1 or 2 spam, I found out that if you reverse the order, it can also break 3+4 leg bar too. So if you press 1 or 2 and spam 1+2, it will break either side of punch, arm bar and leg bar.
I loved the detailed explanation. Thanks, as a new player this drastically changes the game for me. It infuriates me that the game makes no attempt at teaching you these things or making the knowledge of these available in form of move lists or tutorials... I dont understand... is it to secretly maintain some enigmatic aspect to the game? to push the learning curve up higher so it remains "HARD" . idk, im new so let me know if you do.
I really appreciate your content, you're very knowledgeable and you take your time explaining things. Can you make a video on counters? Like King's b2+4, b1+3, Or Jin's parry?(I'm sure there are a lot more)Thanks
Frames of Tackle Break Windows: Regular Tackle: 1, 2, 3, 4 (1+2 & 2 escape) Marduk close: -, -, 3, 4, 5, 6 (1+2 escape) Marduk distant jump: 1, 2, -, -, -, -, (1+2, & 2 & 1 escape) So Marduk close tackle has also 4 frames of break window like a regular tackle but is shifted by 2 frames later, so ur regular tackle break timing gets screwed, since ur not allowed to push buttons at the first or second frame but at the third at the earliest. For the distant version, where he jumps, you have 2 frames to break it - the first 2f of the grab.
Secret with kazumi is not to punch at the ground but do a normal stomp which even in very high level this is seldom defended. This also reduces the danger of getting reversaled themselves. Actually its so successfull i think its cheese OP strategy with her. There are also jump tackles like nina which jumps with her legs at you to grab you and not sure but i think with f2 or so you can counter this to throw her away.
So neutral throws have made been easier, because you can break them with either 1 or 2 BUT for ultimate tackle, you need to do a 2D Just Frame on angle depending ToD, just so you get the right counterpart... oh namco bandai...
its been a while but now that ive actually properly tested this, up close it is 1+2 and 2 is the break from afar but the catch is that, and this works with all tackles, you can press any combination of buttons together as long as it includes the correct break. this means that 1+2 still works from afar, or even ki charge will work. and you could press 1+2+3 or ki charge or whatever as long as one of the buttons is 2 to break other characters' tackles or marduk's from afar, and something like 1+2+3 or ki charge for marduk up close, but the important thing is that you can just press 1+2 for everybody on all tackles and it works
I have done the generic reversal as paul literally every single time someone tackles me and never realized how until this video Now I feel like I'm going to mess it up by consciously going for it lmao Edit: Just looked it up and you can just mash 1+2 as Paul, which is what I was apparently doing lolol
@@kryntor9713 nice. when I use it, I never see it broken, so I wasn't sure if that was because it's unbreakable or if my opponent just was caught off guard.
Am i missing something? i hit the lab and this doesnt work at all. the break frames for paul's arm lock is so little that you cant get it unless you mash it. its unbufferable. hell i cant even get it %100 even if i mash it. It seems like a geniune %33 mixup
I dont get it, I tried reversing arm bar by doing my own arm bar but all it did is made the character do the regular reversals and keep in mind I was using paul to reverse king armbar
Wait, does your 'beat all options' niche technique work against Marduk? This would be huge for me if so because I have a pocket Paul and could completely castrate him if this works. I just hate running into the big lad online because tackle spamming seems to skew so heavily in his favour. It's like whenever their back is to the wall they'll just spam it and steal rounds like Kazuyas throwing out panic vortexes. Don't @me TMM subs, we all know you do it.
In my matches I have had reverses happen only up till the fourth one. So if I got tackled I would reverse and then the opponent would reverse my "reverse" (that's like three reverses if you count the initial tackle). After that I could only break his reverse tackle which makes it the fourth one. I don't know if four is the limit or if I just didn't press the right buttons due to pressure but I have never had more then four tackle reverses one after another.
@@rouenpaulo3986 The previous replies you got here are wrong. If you are being tackled and you press 1+2 just before your back hits the ground, you'll "reverse the mount" and roll on top of your opponent. This reversing of the mount cannot be reversed by the other player. No funny ongoing RDC-like tussles for the dominant position. Every character can escape the arm bar. The only characters who can reverse the arm bar (by turning it into an arm bar of their own) are Paul, King, Nina, Jin, Devil Jin, Dragunov and Marduk. That arm bar reversal cannot be reversed. (And the original arm bar and the reversal arm bar actually have slightly different animations.)
wait, Marduk's Tackle is a 2 break? I thought it was 1+2 this entire time!
You actually may be right haha; I break with 1+2 for everyone out of habit. Might pin this so I don't get newer players destroyed by Marduk.
@@MassiveZug I think it's a special break certain characters have.
Lil Majin covered Marduk's tackle on his channel. Check it out
Might be a bit late, marduk tackle can be 1+2 or 2 break depending on the distance. If you got tackle right in front of your face (where duk picks you up first and then slam you down) its 1+2 break. If you get tackle from far away, its a 2 break with 1 frame break window, so kinda impossible in online match
@@squarerootofplatypus9307 wow first time seeing this. Think like 5% whole tekken community is aware of this.
Im glad you *tackled* this subject
hahaaaaaaaa
Lol
Fantastic video, honestly this is essential defense you need to know and just can't quickly find in it's entirity. Thanks to you I know my options my options and the best thing to do! Especially with King and Dragonov which are both my mains. Thanks!
Tekken 7 owes so much if it's success to TH-cam , it's not even fucking funny. Not a single word about this in the game. The amount of work required just to get into the basic fundamentals of the game.
Edit : leg locks and armbars work differently ??? Jesus
Love your videos, Always helpful and actually made me good at the game. now I'm beating my friends up on a regular basis. Thank you!
I was using Nina and my friend Paul. I had 5 HP left. Paul tackled me but I managed to turn over the tackle and do one of my own which I chose to do arm break but Paul reversed my reversal tackle with his own arm break. It was so excilirating even though I died.
I just escaped a king tackle for the first time in my life thanks zug.
I wasn't expecting an 8 minute video about tackling but it was filled with genuine information. This game has some real quirks to it that aren't as readily available as I thought
I love Tekken, very deep end very hard, but if you managed to learn it you get awarded by how much fun you get from it.
Awesome video. I experimented 112~1+2spaming of Dragunov and Paul, and it still works even though this video was uploaded 2 years ago.
Also, while the commands introduced in the video to break punches and arm bar are 1+2 and 1 or 2 spam, I found out that if you reverse the order, it can also break 3+4 leg bar too. So if you press 1 or 2 and spam 1+2, it will break either side of punch, arm bar and leg bar.
You can still overturn Asuka's ki-charge tackle. 1+2 when your back hits the ground, but has a very strict timing
Oh that why I see eyemusician never get escaped on his tackle
Thanks so much
Hot dang this was so informative
asuka's unblockable tackle from ki charge can still be reversed over for the opponent to hit asuka.
My brain is exploding. This is so mega complex it hurts.
1:22super move
i learned a lot, thanks man
I loved the detailed explanation. Thanks, as a new player this drastically changes the game for me. It infuriates me that the game makes no attempt at teaching you these things or making the knowledge of these available in form of move lists or tutorials... I dont understand... is it to secretly maintain some enigmatic aspect to the game? to push the learning curve up higher so it remains "HARD" . idk, im new so let me know if you do.
Timing, Execution, Knowledge of your character , Knowledge of other characters, Escaping grabs, Nitty-gritty 😎
I really appreciate your content, you're very knowledgeable and you take your time explaining things.
Can you make a video on counters? Like King's b2+4, b1+3, Or Jin's parry?(I'm sure there are a lot more)Thanks
If you want to learn about King's parry counters, J King's got you covered th-cam.com/video/11elHNlza8w/w-d-xo.html
bro. i heard it. that's image of hero from pso1. damn that game was sick and i miss it. good shit, good video.
Amazing tutorial! I am a Marduk player and l usually mash 1+2 when l see the opponent trying to tackle me so l can reverse it into Mount stance.
Now you have to worry about people breaking your arms and legs.
Me: Mob boss style
Frames of Tackle Break Windows:
Regular Tackle: 1, 2, 3, 4 (1+2 & 2 escape)
Marduk close: -, -, 3, 4, 5, 6 (1+2 escape)
Marduk distant jump: 1, 2, -, -, -, -, (1+2, & 2 & 1 escape)
So Marduk close tackle has also 4 frames of break window like a regular tackle but is shifted by 2 frames later, so ur regular tackle break timing gets screwed, since ur not allowed to push buttons at the first or second frame but at the third at the earliest.
For the distant version, where he jumps, you have 2 frames to break it - the first 2f of the grab.
Secret with kazumi is not to punch at the ground but do a normal stomp which even in very high level this is seldom defended. This also reduces the danger of getting reversaled themselves. Actually its so successfull i think its cheese OP strategy with her.
There are also jump tackles like nina which jumps with her legs at you to grab you and not sure but i think with f2 or so you can counter this to throw her away.
Thank you for taking the time to make this
leave it to Massive zug to post this absolutely great video
fucking love you dude
I always thought Dragunovs arm bar tackle counter was a b2+4/b1+3 input like parrys, never used it but it's nice knowing the actual input
Someone who helped make tekken is into Bjj and grappling!
I made this 1 1 2 for drag by accident and i won a game because of it
Now i know how its done) thank you
you can mash 1+2 to reverse it the timing is not strict I just tested it. I reverse it everytime if I mash but if I try to time it only sometimes
So neutral throws have made been easier, because you can break them with either 1 or 2 BUT for ultimate tackle, you need to do a 2D Just Frame on angle depending ToD, just so you get the right counterpart... oh namco bandai...
Really instructive !!
Thanks a lot for your work !
Luv the tackle features..keep up the great upgrades..
im just fed up of getting hit by pauls tackle
I always do these and I never get them off of me. This game blows sometimes
Thank you mr. Zug
Awesome. Shows how Awesome this game is .
Does that paul and dragunov 100% tackle escape still work??
Note: you can you reversal Asuka's Ultimate tackle with 1+2.
this game is great dont get me wrong but it simply has to much stuff to take in. I mean I dont even have the time to learn all that.
5:34 jesus christ he straight up pierced her face 😨
im pretty sure marduks tackle is a 2 break from afar and 1+2 up close.
Oh god
its been a while but now that ive actually properly tested this, up close it is 1+2 and 2 is the break from afar but the catch is that, and this works with all tackles, you can press any combination of buttons together as long as it includes the correct break. this means that 1+2 still works from afar, or even ki charge will work. and you could press 1+2+3 or ki charge or whatever as long as one of the buttons is 2 to break other characters' tackles or marduk's from afar, and something like 1+2+3 or ki charge for marduk up close, but the important thing is that you can just press 1+2 for everybody on all tackles and it works
I have done the generic reversal as paul literally every single time someone tackles me and never realized how until this video
Now I feel like I'm going to mess it up by consciously going for it lmao
Edit: Just looked it up and you can just mash 1+2 as Paul, which is what I was apparently doing lolol
Paul is best 😎
Then there's yoshimitsu
He breaks shit again
Laughs in Negan ;)
yeah, where does Negan's knife attack figure into this? Is it like Yoshi's?
Yeah. If he gets you on the ground, you're screwed
@@kryntor9713 nice. when I use it, I never see it broken, so I wasn't sure if that was because it's unbreakable or if my opponent just was caught off guard.
Am i missing something?
i hit the lab and this doesnt work at all. the break frames for paul's arm lock is so little that you cant get it unless you mash it. its unbufferable. hell i cant even get it %100 even if i mash it. It seems like a geniune %33 mixup
Suppose I tackle someone and they are able to reverse now is it still possible for me to reverse against them again?
I dont get it, I tried reversing arm bar by doing my own arm bar but all it did is made the character do the regular reversals and keep in mind I was using paul to reverse king armbar
nice!
Really good
you deserve more views for the quality videos, good work man thanks
Uhhmm what about dragunovs rage tackle?
I loved it !! 🤗❤
The punch in the tackle is pretty much avoidable,just wait for which hand their raising to punch their counter it accordingly.
Good thing i use Dragunov?
thanks you man
Been playing Tekken for over 2 decades.
First time seeing a tackle from the back being countered.
Also arm bars were escapable all this time ?! 😳😳
Wait, does your 'beat all options' niche technique work against Marduk? This would be huge for me if so because I have a pocket Paul and could completely castrate him if this works. I just hate running into the big lad online because tackle spamming seems to skew so heavily in his favour. It's like whenever their back is to the wall they'll just spam it and steal rounds like Kazuyas throwing out panic vortexes. Don't @me TMM subs, we all know you do it.
No, since Marduk's tackle isn't "GENERIC". Paul and Drag can only OS all the "GENERIC" options. 7:20
@@nitomono Damn ok, thanks for the reply. That's too bad.
@@Mokujinko Yep, but that's one of the only things good about Marduk so it's understandable. 1+2 to break the initial tackle btw.
Can Marduk also do an armbar counter like in 04:56 ?
Nevermind, just tried it, he can't.
@@comiturhan
Yes, Marduk Can Armbar!!!!
if you reverse an arm bar, can they also reverse your arm bar then, reverse their arm bar then, reverse your arm bar and so on and so forth?
In my matches I have had reverses happen only up till the fourth one. So if I got tackled I would reverse and then the opponent would reverse my "reverse" (that's like three reverses if you count the initial tackle). After that I could only break his reverse tackle which makes it the fourth one. I don't know if four is the limit or if I just didn't press the right buttons due to pressure but I have never had more then four tackle reverses one after another.
@@maxwellsope1080 i'm referring to arm bars, but nice to know that somehow it can go that far. so does it look like King"s RDC?
@@rouenpaulo3986 Not exactly but I think only a few characters can even do it. Dragunov vs king is one example.
@@rouenpaulo3986 king and paul and dragunov
@@rouenpaulo3986 The previous replies you got here are wrong.
If you are being tackled and you press 1+2 just before your back hits the ground, you'll "reverse the mount" and roll on top of your opponent. This reversing of the mount cannot be reversed by the other player. No funny ongoing RDC-like tussles for the dominant position.
Every character can escape the arm bar. The only characters who can reverse the arm bar (by turning it into an arm bar of their own) are Paul, King, Nina, Jin, Devil Jin, Dragunov and Marduk. That arm bar reversal cannot be reversed. (And the original arm bar and the reversal arm bar actually have slightly different animations.)
Zug do you play on pad or arcade stick?
I play on Stick, although I find things like Lee's combos are easier on pad. Both are great!
@@MassiveZug cool! I would like to see a stick tutorial someday
Algoriddm
Wait you said we can break marduk s 1+2 by doing nothing WTF
I’m sure your education helped many get their career off the ground.
so marduk tackle must be break with 2? i was 100% sure was a 1+2 break till now
It is 1+2. I break every tackle with 1+2 and just assumed it was a 2 like the rest. I put it in the description as a fix (:
Niceu
Ich hasse Drags neuen Tackle in T8 während heat.
Scammer Video. I subscribed but still got tackled. Where is my buff?!
Lol
Why is this not titled "Tackling tackles in Tekken"? Dissapointed
first???