I concur! Joel you have such a wonderful voice and you have done these enough that you get the relevant data across and do it in a fun way that engages with us. Love your stuff brother 🤙🏻 keep up the great work!
Shoutout to the guys at Micro Swiss who came out to my house a decade ago and installed a pair of the new "prototype" nozzles into my D4S printer that I still use today! Happy to know you are all still making parts here locally in MN! Joel, its cool to see you doing a tour of local US manufacturing!
@@MicroSwissLLC Absolute legends! If you ever make any new parts for the D4S you know where I live lol! I might need to get a new printer at some point just so I can pickup some new locally made upgrades.
I’ve been using MicrosSwiss for some time now and their products are amazing. And now I have a far greater appreciation for the engineering that goes into making those. Thanks Joel!
"Today, on How it's Made...," MicroSwiss Extruders. How It's Made is awesome! This video is just as good as anything they've ever done, better in some ways. Very nice! This should be picked up by PBS or the Discovery Channel. I never knew that the MicroSwiss production facilities were so advanced. For some reason, I envisioned sweaty guys in a dimly lit facility loading punch tapes into CNC machines and hand tooling them afterwards.
Love seeing all the different stages of manufacturing for that and the tests that go into ensuring it's to spec. I still remember finding out that they're called Micro Swiss, even though they aren't Swiss, because they use Swiss lathes. Now I get to see said lathe.
Yeah, good that they use at least something. I almost felt my heart stop when the video started. My country used to be relaxed on the issue. After all we print our flag on toilet paper and doormats just to make a funny statement if we are dissatisfied with the results (one of the four times a year when we are casting our ballots) to approve new legislation. Lacking in ceremonies like most other countries, we treated it more like a fun brand or logo. But the government made a 180° recently. They are now cracking down hard on any foreign enterprise using the Swiss flag or name for products that aren't made in Switzerland. That especially goes for sensitive areas like food and tech/robotics. The fear is, that it would hurt our reputation for high engineering and safety standards if a counterfeit product would go on to hurt anybody. Given the fact that the favourite approach of problem solving of the Swiss is swinging around sheer infinit amounts of money, it is a fight that a private company could simply not hope to win.
Yeah. You'd think Joel would remember that from early elementary school lol As a reminder for him and anyone else who forgot, "ten thousandths of an inch" is 0.010", not 0.0001". You'd be very disappointed in either your product or your wallet if you told your shop the wrong one
Thank you for this video. It's impressive to see all this work and quality operation that goes into the final design of a product. After purchasing MicroSwiss and installing on my old Tevo Black-Widow I noticed better print quality with different materials.
I've never seen a machine shop so clean and organized. I have a MicroSwiss hot end in my Flashforge Finder 1.0 and that was the last mod I made to that machine.
I like that they are operating their facility like a European manufacturer. When I saw the Keyence system I had a little smile as I've spent a fair bit of time with those metrology tools.
Nice! I have an NG with the M2 nozzle and it's a pretty sweet setup. Super cool to see an inside look at their production! My very first micro swiss product was their all metal throat and nozzle for the original Wanhao Duplicator i3 v2.1 back in the day. I haven't ever had an issue with their products.
Thanks, microswiss, for allowing a peek into your manufacturing. Admiring the NG's machining marks, I thought I had an idea of the extent of the tech on your production floor. Then I was STUNNED when I saw your lathe/mill make the _1-piece extruder/ring gear and shaft, while having the capability to "easily" verify the precision necessary to get those filament grip teeth sharply profiled. Joel, love your delivery, reflected the enthusiasm that I would have being there ... but you totally understated the part as just a "extruder gear". forgiven, always
Wow! Was für ein massiver Aufwand, dass ist genau das was ich meinte: Wenn ich sehe welcher Aufwand hinter einem Produkt steht, bin ich doch 100 mal mehr bereit dafür Geld auszugeben als vorher! Es ist das eine etwas zu sehen und das andere es nur gesagt zu bekommen. Joel einfach super und Micro Swiss - sehr gut gemacht ich wünsche euch, dass es euer Verkaufszahlen belebt weil die Leute sehen wie Wertig die Produktion ist!
I always enjoy your visits to places like this. Thanks for sharing the experience with us. High-5! For anyone who missed out on yesterday's live stream, don't miss the next one. We all had a great time!
Super cool that you came to my neighborhood to check out Micro Swiss' operation. They were nice enough to give me a tour last year and I was really impressed. Would've loved to give you a high-five (and bought you a beer!) in person!
The most sensitive CMM machines are beyond insane, they have to be kept in temperature controlled environments to ensure the measurements are accurate. Can’t recall which channel I saw it one, but it was a TH-cam video that visited the lab, I think it was one owned by the NSF. Awesome video, great to see very interesting manufacturing being done right in the US!
THANKYOU FOR READING MY COMMENT IN THE LIVE STREAM YESTERDAY THAT MADE ME REALLY EXCITED BECUASE THATS NEVER HAPPEND TO ME BEFORE AND I LOVE 3D PRINTING AND YOUR CHANNEL!
i JUST BOUGHT A 3D PRINTER AND IT WAS A CHEAP ONE I GOT IT FOR $100 USD CAUSE THAT WAS MY BUDGET AND IM FALLING IN LOVE WITH THE HOBBY ITS SUPER FUN TO DESIGN THINGS THAT YOU CAN PRINT AND YOUR CHANNEL HAS HELPPED ME LEARN SOOOOOO MUCH ABOUT IT!!!!
I just picked up a Volcano CM2 hybrid nozzle and I couldn't be happier 😊 I've been running my own Frankenstein'ed volcano with a copper spacer and a normal sized hardened steel nozzle to print CF etc. For the mechanical parts I've been printing with a tool steel nozzle on a normal V6 block i got about 8mm³s of flow, volcano Frankenstein with the same nozzle got it up to 12-15mm³s and now with the CM2 I'm getting 20-25mm³s of extremely good layer adhesion and 25-35mm³s for "normal" prints on a "classic" extruder design (I print a lot of mechanical parts). When I say classic, I mean like the same as a makerbot replicator I still have. The "spikey" extruder gear on those old units are amazing. I can very comfortably print at 35mm³s without exceeding the filament recommended temperature without any slippage. Usually seen as uneven walls and pulled in corners... I'm never going to end up using my Revo extruder 😭
some comments, The batch inspection is not "the only way", but i understand the thought, its the fastest way to inspect it. The Tools are high end so glad to see some companies actually care to inspect as well as they do. I dont find the engineering well when you measure low tolerance parts and then put them into a 3d printed part, Is a bit of a NVA inspection?
While some methods of MIM manufacturing are considered additive, at first blush, the small complex ring/extruder gear seems a good fit for the economy of MIM. Alas, the 15-20% shrinkage of the part would require oversizing and subsequent machining to .0001 anyways, and then remains the porosity downside. But in the near-future, porosity would be the uber upside! Just like the extremes in reducing ounces off road bike components, it may not be long before porous titanium medical implant manufacturing trickles to us and reduces toolhead inertial/mass ringing. Lots of lower stress parts made with _variable-porosity titanium - up to 64% controlled porosity! and yea, titanium is cool (and porous titanium uses less, so greener, so less guilt there...).
I have two Micro Swiss extruders on a couple custom machines that have never printed anything... one is a couple years old (Anet A8 Plus) and another that's over 4 years old (TronXY X3S). Both have BigTreeTech boards that I have failed at programming thus far. Really sad case... both have linear rails on X&Z and the X3S has linear on Y as well. There are times I wished I'd never touched them as they just collect dust at this point.
I wish the hot end I bought for my E5+ with an Exoslide had a fan shroud when I bought it. Knowing that they are now including fan shrouds, I would like to see the option on their website to buy them.
I have an NG Extruder and it works really good. But they should 3D print the fan shroud out of a high temp material. First time I ran ABS on my printer, it deformed. ☹
I followed their manual and had no issues- under "Service Tips" Preheat the hotend to printing temperature. • Cut the tip of the filament at a 45-degree angle. • Straighten the tip of the filament out. • Using the printer menu issue an Extrude command. • Insert the filament into the extruder as the gears are rotating. When loading filament do not press the extruder arm until the filament has made it into the tube below the extruder drive gears.
Every printer I have every gotten the first upgrade I have always done was slapped a microswiss nozzle on it. There just isn't a better nozzle company. Grante dI haven't tried anything newer than like 3 years old so no CHT nozzles or anything but if microswiss makes one for my sidewinder x1 I will give it a try eventually.
Super cool that they let you share their process. I particularly enjoyed how clever some of the QA machines were. HOWEVER... Im really having a hard time holding it together given the fact that I didnt get to actually watch you push the button you said youd push during the first step!! 😳 (eye twitching)
Cool tour. You said thousandths of an inch multiple times when you probably meant tenths of a thousandth. Measuring within 10 thousandths isn't too hard usually lol.
Joel could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly the benefit of this product is? I’ve never considered changing my extruder and don’t see why I’d need to?
If you're happy with the prints from your machine, don't change anything :) This would allow for a very consistent extrusion, as we as the ability to print abrasive materials. Think of it like a performance car - a reguarl car is going to drive just fine and get you from A to B. If you want more performance though, you need to get a performance car OR modify the car you have to perform even better under the conditions you want the performance for.
The primary advantage is it's all metal filament guides, especially the outfeed one. The tight fit shaping around the dual extrusion gears allow for power-feeding flexible filament without folding/jamming. Along with reliable feeding, the gear ratio of the pinon/ring gears allow for additional torque and finer feed steps that control flow. Finally, the overall shorter/supported filament path allows shorter retraction length.
All these high tech CNC machines and then the cut to an ender farm. Well,they had the rep rap idea covered with NGs printing themselves , but creality in a professional environment looks weird.
It kinda depends on what the goals are. I thought it cool that it serves multiple purposes at the same time, since they are doing exhaustive testing of their products on the target printers, might as well "test" print something useful (the shroud). Commercial-reliability levels (that Creality printers may not rise to) aren't really needed for the rather simple shroud, but if one print did fail in the line, the Quality Failure Analysis team might find the data valuable as part of the Continuous Process Improvement.
@@spicetreksyou are absolutely accurate here. The farm of Ender printers serves two purposes. We continuously test our extruders while printing fan shroud.
@@MicroSwissLLC I got that. It’s just an instinctive reaction to the contrast. Like putting a turbo motorcycle engine on a lawnmower. And I own a few of them. A lesson that shot taught some of us, that fan shrouds don’t need high temperature materials.
Sometimes high temp materials are necessary for printing the shroud. Both hotends (I chose the NG Revo) have all-metal heat breaks with 300-500C support for high-end filament that requires a printer enclosure, where interior temps can reach up to 50C. Cycling temps too close to PLA's 65C glass transition can compromise its strength, so ABS's 105C glass transition gives better margin. Fyi, pretty sure the NG's stepper motor is the high temp model
How the use of "swiss" as well as the "swiss cross" is legimeted on this Video? Note, there is a "Federal Act on the Protection of the Swiss Coat of Arms and Other Public Signs" law. Just as an example, an US company has to remove the Matterhorn from the Chocolate "Toblerone" since it is a Swiss national symbol as well with strong regulations on when it can be used.
@@fabianmerki4222 Breathe relaxed, I had to do this too. We may make better use of the opportunity if we provide information - if they order a machine from Switzerland, then the machine will come from Switzerland and will by Swiss. We don't get the stuff from somewhere else, screw it together and ship it and if we do so that the word "Swiss" is gone even by Swiss Manufacturers. I think they don't know enough about the meaning of this word. Give them time to breathe deeply...... and if they don't react, which will need time in suche a case, something will be done without us doing anything. They even come even after us even if we use this word not correctly, since we keep them running as well ;-)
The name came from the style of machine that we run. “Swiss” machines are not only made in Switzerland, they are made all over the world. “Swiss” style lathe is an automated lathe machine that they used to make watches on. And nowadays, these machines are used for all sorts of things, including nozzles and parts for 3D printers. Our company Micro Swiss was started back in 2014 as a local swiss machine shop. This is very common to call the shop swiss as it refers to the swiss style lathe that shops use to produce parts. We initially started as a contract manufacturer for medical parts. The swiss name and the logo was designed to reference the machinery that was used to make the medical parts. Over the years, our company evolved into making parts for 3D printers and the logo and the name was never changed.
Can somebody explain to me, why they are called micro SWISS? Micro is self-explanatory. But i only could guess, Swiss comes from the swiss lathes? Even though at first i didn't really get that these lates are called swiss lathes. Because in german we call them langdrehautomat what basically means long automatic lathe. If this is the case, i can sort of understand it, but still don't agree with they'r naming. With the 5 letters that resemble Swiss, i implicate made or at least based in Switzerland, outstanding quality, precision... (even though not all Swiss companies strictly resemble that anymore). Micro Swiss seems like a good company that resembles Swiss standards. But don't tell me that wasn't a tactical choice behind it to call it Swiss. And there are also startups like SwissMak these guys are probably based in Taiwan and had a Kickstarter campaign for a "affordable" 5 axis cnc turn-milling machine and i think in the end they didn't ship one piece until today, but now it is available on Alibaba (although im not really sure if that is a scam aswell) Just using Swiss in the name for yor brand to implicate swiss standards and profit from our reputation really upsets me as a swiss citizen. And on top of that is the logo with the white cross on red background that's stretched a little bit (for legal reasons i assume because it probably wouldn't be allowed to straight uf use the real Swiss flag, but im not a lawyer). Please excuse my bad english, but i just had to write my opinion on that topic.
The name came from the style of machine that we run. “Swiss” machines are not only made in Switzerland, they are made all over the world. “Swiss” style lathe is an automated lathe machine that they used to make watches on. And nowadays, these machines are used for all sorts of things, including nozzles and parts for 3D printers. Our company Micro Swiss was started back in 2014 as a local swiss machine shop. This is very common to call the shop swiss as it refers to the swiss style lathe that shops use to produce parts. We initially started as a contract manufacturer for medical parts. The swiss name and the logo was designed to reference the machinery that was used to make the medical parts. Over the years, our company evolved into making parts for 3D printers and the logo and the name was never changed.
tiny parts are Ok but,, going to Company where they manufacturer has CNC Machines the size of large bedrooms and multi tool changer, on the CNC looks like something out of a Terminator Scene where all the Different Terminators get built ,, no Sh_ _ _ it ,,, and lathes half the size of a house making Special Nickle ally bronze props for warships an Crazy Gyros that look like they should be in a space ship " VEEM Enterprises "
While they seem over-built for the part it is currently machining, these are fully (re)programmable and versatile enough to lathe or another to mill anything. I would invest in a machine that can adapt to future designs, else it turns into a dinosaur fast. Example would be the highly-specific monster machines that Detroit used to bore / machine their V8 gas engines- so inflexible to change to the times - made terrible V6 / inline-4 and their cylinder heads - all because Detroit didn't want to re-tool.
Sorry, I misread your point. Yes, machining a huge object at some accuracy is impressive looking, but small sizes don't negate the challenges. Despite the extreme precision of their Swiss lathe when assembling the hardened nozzle assembly, they furthered tolerance thru bin-matching to the final .0001", control plating thickness consistency (and mettalurgy to isolate from galvanic corrosion), account for asymmetrical dimensional shifts during hardening, and press 2 dissimilar metals together calculating that no buckling/etc will occur across the whole target temperature range. I read an article on the Giant Magellan Telescope. Each mirror is "only" 27 feet across. Surface accuracy to 19 nanometers- about 7.5 * 10^-7 of an inch. Surfacing the 7th/final primary mirror will take 4 years. While each of the 17-ton mirrors don't match up to the largest ship propellers, the accuracy has to extend to the full 7-mirror assembly, which will total 2,000 tons.
Worst hotend I bought twice. It had a flawed design. How do you expect 3 different metals that experience changing temperature to be held by a screw? The result is an eventual messsy leak. So, there is nothing wrong with machines. Excellently machined crap.
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If they do another run of How It's Made, I vote Joel gets to host.
Awww dude! 😍
I concur! Joel you have such a wonderful voice and you have done these enough that you get the relevant data across and do it in a fun way that engages with us.
Love your stuff brother 🤙🏻 keep up the great work!
Maybe show some actual manufacturing, instead of Joel pushing a button or closing a door and moving on to the next shot?
@@Peter_A1466This was very much meant as an overview. The goal for down the road is to actually have me as an employee for the day :)
Shoutout to the guys at Micro Swiss who came out to my house a decade ago and installed a pair of the new "prototype" nozzles into my D4S printer that I still use today! Happy to know you are all still making parts here locally in MN! Joel, its cool to see you doing a tour of local US manufacturing!
Oh wow, that was a long time ago when Vitaliy stopped by to help you with that nozzle installation. Nice to hear from you again.
@@MicroSwissLLC Absolute legends! If you ever make any new parts for the D4S you know where I live lol! I might need to get a new printer at some point just so I can pickup some new locally made upgrades.
Awesome to see how this champion is being manufactured! How that extruder gear is made and measured definitely blew my mind!
Now I see why my microswiss extruders gave me zero issues
That was so cool to watch... Now I know how a Microswiss NG Extruder is made... and it was precise
I just installed the NG extruder on my aging CR10s. What a difference a good direct drive extruder makes. Best upgrade I have ever done.
I also installed it on my Anet ET5 pro and it works perfectly
Every time i get anything from microswiss im constantly impressed by the quality of the components
I’ve been using MicrosSwiss for some time now and their products are amazing. And now I have a far greater appreciation for the engineering that goes into making those. Thanks Joel!
Thanks to the fine folks at MicroSwiss for letting Joel show off their excellent machining capabilities.
"Today, on How it's Made...," MicroSwiss Extruders.
How It's Made is awesome! This video is just as good as anything they've ever done, better in some ways. Very nice! This should be picked up by PBS or the Discovery Channel.
I never knew that the MicroSwiss production facilities were so advanced. For some reason, I envisioned sweaty guys in a dimly lit facility loading punch tapes into CNC machines and hand tooling them afterwards.
Awww thank you!
Thank goodness MicroSwiss exists and makes quality products. I wouldn't go with any other brand. You rock guys!!
I prefer Bondtech. Microswiss has high quality but out-dated designs and needs to catch up...
@@hd-be7di Bondtech is good, but I don't use anything other than Micro Swiss' all-metal extrudes.
As a programmer and machinist I love these types of videos 🥰
I totally love my NG on my Aquila. One of the best and highest quality upgrades you can do. Plus it's made here in the USA!!
Big up micro Swiss! They transformed my first printer with there hotend and extruder 💪❤️
Its super cool that you got an invite to see how its made. Im super jelly
i love how clean the work place is
Love seeing all the different stages of manufacturing for that and the tests that go into ensuring it's to spec. I still remember finding out that they're called Micro Swiss, even though they aren't Swiss, because they use Swiss lathes. Now I get to see said lathe.
Yeah, good that they use at least something. I almost felt my heart stop when the video started. My country used to be relaxed on the issue. After all we print our flag on toilet paper and doormats just to make a funny statement if we are dissatisfied with the results (one of the four times a year when we are casting our ballots) to approve new legislation. Lacking in ceremonies like most other countries, we treated it more like a fun brand or logo. But the government made a 180° recently. They are now cracking down hard on any foreign enterprise using the Swiss flag or name for products that aren't made in Switzerland. That especially goes for sensitive areas like food and tech/robotics. The fear is, that it would hurt our reputation for high engineering and safety standards if a counterfeit product would go on to hurt anybody. Given the fact that the favourite approach of problem solving of the Swiss is swinging around sheer infinit amounts of money, it is a fight that a private company could simply not hope to win.
.0001 is one ten-thousandth of an inch. Super tight tolerances
Yeah. You'd think Joel would remember that from early elementary school lol
As a reminder for him and anyone else who forgot, "ten thousandths of an inch" is 0.010", not 0.0001". You'd be very disappointed in either your product or your wallet if you told your shop the wrong one
Machinists typically call them tenths, and thou for thousandths.
Thank you for this video. It's impressive to see all this work and quality operation that goes into the final design of a product. After purchasing MicroSwiss and installing on my old Tevo Black-Widow I noticed better print quality with different materials.
Fantastic edutainment Joel and David! Great to learn how things are made and see the behind the scenes factory tour!
I've never seen a machine shop so clean and organized. I have a MicroSwiss hot end in my Flashforge Finder 1.0 and that was the last mod I made to that machine.
I love that head. I own two of them. They have great customer support.
I like that they are operating their facility like a European manufacturer. When I saw the Keyence system I had a little smile as I've spent a fair bit of time with those metrology tools.
Nice! I have an NG with the M2 nozzle and it's a pretty sweet setup. Super cool to see an inside look at their production! My very first micro swiss product was their all metal throat and nozzle for the original Wanhao Duplicator i3 v2.1 back in the day. I haven't ever had an issue with their products.
My first mod for my first 3D printer was a MicroSwiss all metal hot end for my Flashforge Creator Pro way back in the day! Really cool to see this!
Looks cool and professional!
Still use MicroSwiss all metal hotend on my Wanaho i3 v2.1 ( bought around 2017 )
Would love more of Joel doing this!
Nice video and great products! Thanks for showing us how they're made!
Thanks, microswiss, for allowing a peek into your manufacturing. Admiring the NG's machining marks, I thought I had an idea of the extent of the tech on your production floor. Then I was STUNNED when I saw your lathe/mill make the _1-piece extruder/ring gear and shaft, while having the capability to "easily" verify the precision necessary to get those filament grip teeth sharply profiled. Joel, love your delivery, reflected the enthusiasm that I would have being there ... but you totally understated the part as just a "extruder gear". forgiven, always
Thanks for the tour Joel! This was very cool and interesting video. You always keep me excited for new content. High five!
Thank you!
Man Joel made manufacturing look fun... I love this guy, Boost morale bro!!! HIGH FRIGGIN FIVE!!!
Wow! Was für ein massiver Aufwand, dass ist genau das was ich meinte: Wenn ich sehe welcher Aufwand hinter einem Produkt steht, bin ich doch 100 mal mehr bereit dafür Geld auszugeben als vorher! Es ist das eine etwas zu sehen und das andere es nur gesagt zu bekommen. Joel einfach super und Micro Swiss - sehr gut gemacht ich wünsche euch, dass es euer Verkaufszahlen belebt weil die Leute sehen wie Wertig die Produktion ist!
Amazing machining that goes into these parts. Thank you for sharing with us.
I always enjoy your visits to places like this. Thanks for sharing the experience with us. High-5!
For anyone who missed out on yesterday's live stream, don't miss the next one. We all had a great time!
Super cool that you came to my neighborhood to check out Micro Swiss' operation. They were nice enough to give me a tour last year and I was really impressed. Would've loved to give you a high-five (and bought you a beer!) in person!
Well after seeing this and talking to Microswiss support, i will be going with this beast of a unit rather than bondtech.
That was really cool to see how the extruder on my Ender 5 was made. Thank you Joel.
The most sensitive CMM machines are beyond insane, they have to be kept in temperature controlled environments to ensure the measurements are accurate. Can’t recall which channel I saw it one, but it was a TH-cam video that visited the lab, I think it was one owned by the NSF. Awesome video, great to see very interesting manufacturing being done right in the US!
THANKYOU FOR READING MY COMMENT IN THE LIVE STREAM YESTERDAY THAT MADE ME REALLY EXCITED BECUASE THATS NEVER HAPPEND TO ME BEFORE AND I LOVE 3D PRINTING AND YOUR CHANNEL!
i JUST BOUGHT A 3D PRINTER AND IT WAS A CHEAP ONE I GOT IT FOR $100 USD CAUSE THAT WAS MY BUDGET AND IM FALLING IN LOVE WITH THE HOBBY ITS SUPER FUN TO DESIGN THINGS THAT YOU CAN PRINT AND YOUR CHANNEL HAS HELPPED ME LEARN SOOOOOO MUCH ABOUT IT!!!!
I get all my Heatbreaks and Wear Resistant Nozzles from Micro Swiss! They actually know what they're doing! 🤣
They are amazing humans!
I like the NG extruder on my V1 CR10S. Though I should have waited for the updated model. I had temp problems at first, but i figured them out.
Awesome manufacturing process!
I just picked up a Volcano CM2 hybrid nozzle and I couldn't be happier 😊 I've been running my own Frankenstein'ed volcano with a copper spacer and a normal sized hardened steel nozzle to print CF etc.
For the mechanical parts I've been printing with a tool steel nozzle on a normal V6 block i got about 8mm³s of flow, volcano Frankenstein with the same nozzle got it up to 12-15mm³s and now with the CM2 I'm getting 20-25mm³s of extremely good layer adhesion and 25-35mm³s for "normal" prints on a "classic" extruder design (I print a lot of mechanical parts).
When I say classic, I mean like the same as a makerbot replicator I still have. The "spikey" extruder gear on those old units are amazing. I can very comfortably print at 35mm³s without exceeding the filament recommended temperature without any slippage. Usually seen as uneven walls and pulled in corners... I'm never going to end up using my Revo extruder 😭
I had no idea they were here in MN just a stones throw away from me.
Very cool🎉 I love my MicroSwiss extruder, got one of those last year.
Shout out to their sponsorship of the LM show, it got me hooked on them.
some comments,
The batch inspection is not "the only way", but i understand the thought, its the fastest way to inspect it.
The Tools are high end so glad to see some companies actually care to inspect as well as they do.
I dont find the engineering well when you measure low tolerance parts and then put them into a 3d printed part,
Is a bit of a NVA inspection?
It's kind of funny that the parts to build an additive manufacturing device are made with subtractive manufacturing processes.
While some methods of MIM manufacturing are considered additive, at first blush, the small complex ring/extruder gear seems a good fit for the economy of MIM.
Alas, the 15-20% shrinkage of the part would require oversizing and subsequent machining to .0001 anyways, and then remains the porosity downside.
But in the near-future, porosity would be the uber upside! Just like the extremes in reducing ounces off road bike components, it may not be long before porous titanium medical implant manufacturing trickles to us and reduces toolhead inertial/mass ringing. Lots of lower stress parts made with _variable-porosity titanium - up to 64% controlled porosity! and yea, titanium is cool (and porous titanium uses less, so greener, so less guilt there...).
I have two Micro Swiss extruders on a couple custom machines that have never printed anything... one is a couple years old (Anet A8 Plus) and another that's over 4 years old (TronXY X3S). Both have BigTreeTech boards that I have failed at programming thus far. Really sad case... both have linear rails on X&Z and the X3S has linear on Y as well. There are times I wished I'd never touched them as they just collect dust at this point.
I wish the hot end I bought for my E5+ with an Exoslide had a fan shroud when I bought it. Knowing that they are now including fan shrouds, I would like to see the option on their website to buy them.
that was a super cool video. i have debating keeping my anycubic mega x as a project to upgrade. i am replacing it with a elagoo neptune 4 pro
Amazing video. I would watch a much longer format of factory tour.
.01 is actually a pretty forgiving tollerance.
very interesting :-) Thank you
holy heck i didn't realize micro swiss was in MN
I have an NG Extruder and it works really good. But they should 3D print the fan shroud out of a high temp material. First time I ran ABS on my printer, it deformed. ☹
Awesome episode!
Thank you!
My only issue is loading filament into the NG can be a pain.
I followed their manual and had no issues- under "Service Tips"
Preheat the hotend to printing temperature.
• Cut the tip of the filament at a 45-degree angle.
• Straighten the tip of the filament out.
• Using the printer menu issue an Extrude command.
• Insert the filament into the extruder as the gears are rotating.
When loading filament do not press the extruder arm until the filament has made it into the tube below the extruder drive gears.
Very cool!
Every printer I have every gotten the first upgrade I have always done was slapped a microswiss nozzle on it. There just isn't a better nozzle company. Grante dI haven't tried anything newer than like 3 years old so no CHT nozzles or anything but if microswiss makes one for my sidewinder x1 I will give it a try eventually.
Super cool that they let you share their process. I particularly enjoyed how clever some of the QA machines were. HOWEVER... Im really having a hard time holding it together given the fact that I didnt get to actually watch you push the button you said youd push during the first step!! 😳 (eye twitching)
Cool tour. You said thousandths of an inch multiple times when you probably meant tenths of a thousandth. Measuring within 10 thousandths isn't too hard usually lol.
Joel could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly the benefit of this product is? I’ve never considered changing my extruder and don’t see why I’d need to?
If you're happy with the prints from your machine, don't change anything :) This would allow for a very consistent extrusion, as we as the ability to print abrasive materials. Think of it like a performance car - a reguarl car is going to drive just fine and get you from A to B. If you want more performance though, you need to get a performance car OR modify the car you have to perform even better under the conditions you want the performance for.
The primary advantage is it's all metal filament guides, especially the outfeed one. The tight fit shaping around the dual extrusion gears allow for power-feeding flexible filament without folding/jamming. Along with reliable feeding, the gear ratio of the pinon/ring gears allow for additional torque and finer feed steps that control flow. Finally, the overall shorter/supported filament path allows shorter retraction length.
cool video
Are those empty egg boxes ? why!
Manufacturing process and quality control explains a lot of the cost 👍
Does company name come from founder's background or from tools 🤔
The QC is very important for a reliable product.
Name Micro Swiss comes from the Swiss style lathe that we use to manufacture our products.
i'm buying another 1 of these just because its made in amerurica
i always thought that micro swiss were in switzerland....
What about this hot end is swiss?
They use Swiss lathes
who would go to minnesota for spring break? or did he mean the place most people flee from during spring?
were you there on the same day as Nathan Builds Robots?
I got to give Nathan a crisp high five!
@@3DPrintingNerd Thats so cool! Were there any other ppl there? Its always neat to see how different different creators approach the same subject.
All these high tech CNC machines and then the cut to an ender farm. Well,they had the rep rap idea covered with NGs printing themselves , but creality in a professional environment looks weird.
It kinda depends on what the goals are. I thought it cool that it serves multiple purposes at the same time, since they are doing exhaustive testing of their products on the target printers, might as well "test" print something useful (the shroud). Commercial-reliability levels (that Creality printers may not rise to) aren't really needed for the rather simple shroud, but if one print did fail in the line, the Quality Failure Analysis team might find the data valuable as part of the Continuous Process Improvement.
@@spicetreksyou are absolutely accurate here. The farm of Ender printers serves two purposes. We continuously test our extruders while printing fan shroud.
@@MicroSwissLLC I got that. It’s just an instinctive reaction to the contrast. Like putting a turbo motorcycle engine on a lawnmower. And I own a few of them. A lesson that shot taught some of us, that fan shrouds don’t need high temperature materials.
Sometimes high temp materials are necessary for printing the shroud. Both hotends (I chose the NG Revo) have all-metal heat breaks with 300-500C support for high-end filament that requires a printer enclosure, where interior temps can reach up to 50C. Cycling temps too close to PLA's 65C glass transition can compromise its strength, so ABS's 105C glass transition gives better margin. Fyi, pretty sure the NG's stepper motor is the high temp model
@@spicetreks The shrouds are printed open, not enclosed. This isn’t a high temperature farm, no matter what the NGs could do.
How the use of "swiss" as well as the "swiss cross" is legimeted on this Video? Note, there is a "Federal Act on the Protection of the Swiss Coat of Arms and Other Public Signs" law. Just as an example, an US company has to remove the Matterhorn from the Chocolate "Toblerone" since it is a Swiss national symbol as well with strong regulations on when it can be used.
fully agree, not allowed, we (i am Swiss, you probably too) need to sue them!
@@fabianmerki4222 Breathe relaxed, I had to do this too. We may make better use of the opportunity if we provide information - if they order a machine from Switzerland, then the machine will come from Switzerland and will by Swiss. We don't get the stuff from somewhere else, screw it together and ship it and if we do so that the word "Swiss" is gone even by Swiss Manufacturers. I think they don't know enough about the meaning of this word. Give them time to breathe deeply...... and if they don't react, which will need time in suche a case, something will be done without us doing anything. They even come even after us even if we use this word not correctly, since we keep them running as well ;-)
how dare u slander Ramsey MN, "spring break capital of the world"
Do they hire? I would gladly work in a factory like that till I retire.
I have never realized MicroSwitzerland is in America...
p.s. be careful out there with your fingers near that nozzle press
nice
There's a certain irony in having to use subtractive machining to make a mission-critical part for additive manufacturing.
Whats „Swiss“ about them?
The name came from the style of machine that we run. “Swiss” machines are not only made in Switzerland, they are made all over the world. “Swiss” style lathe is an automated lathe machine that they used to make watches on. And nowadays, these machines are used for all sorts of things, including nozzles and parts for 3D printers. Our company Micro Swiss was started back in 2014 as a local swiss machine shop. This is very common to call the shop swiss as it refers to the swiss style lathe that shops use to produce parts. We initially started as a contract manufacturer for medical parts. The swiss name and the logo was designed to reference the machinery that was used to make the medical parts. Over the years, our company evolved into making parts for 3D printers and the logo and the name was never changed.
What does microswiss have to do with Switzerland. Is the founder from there or why is the swiss in the name?
It’s the Swiss lathes they started with!
MicroSwiss isn't from Switzerland??? 👀
No, they are a US company and started with Swiss lathes.
Aluminium, not aluminum
The fact you are handling those without gloves bothers me more than it should :)
Title is clickbait. You made everything BUT a Hotend xD 😂
Can somebody explain to me, why they are called micro SWISS?
Micro is self-explanatory. But i only could guess, Swiss comes from the swiss lathes? Even though at first i didn't really get that these lates are called swiss lathes. Because in german we call them langdrehautomat what basically means long automatic lathe.
If this is the case, i can sort of understand it, but still don't agree with they'r naming. With the 5 letters that resemble Swiss, i implicate made or at least based in Switzerland, outstanding quality, precision... (even though not all Swiss companies strictly resemble that anymore). Micro Swiss seems like a good company that resembles Swiss standards. But don't tell me that wasn't a tactical choice behind it to call it Swiss. And there are also startups like SwissMak these guys are probably based in Taiwan and had a Kickstarter campaign for a "affordable" 5 axis cnc turn-milling machine and i think in the end they didn't ship one piece until today, but now it is available on Alibaba (although im not really sure if that is a scam aswell)
Just using Swiss in the name for yor brand to implicate swiss standards and profit from our reputation really upsets me as a swiss citizen. And on top of that is the logo with the white cross on red background that's stretched a little bit (for legal reasons i assume because it probably wouldn't be allowed to straight uf use the real Swiss flag, but im not a lawyer).
Please excuse my bad english, but i just had to write my opinion on that topic.
The name came from the style of machine that we run. “Swiss” machines are not only made in Switzerland, they are made all over the world. “Swiss” style lathe is an automated lathe machine that they used to make watches on. And nowadays, these machines are used for all sorts of things, including nozzles and parts for 3D printers. Our company Micro Swiss was started back in 2014 as a local swiss machine shop. This is very common to call the shop swiss as it refers to the swiss style lathe that shops use to produce parts. We initially started as a contract manufacturer for medical parts. The swiss name and the logo was designed to reference the machinery that was used to make the medical parts. Over the years, our company evolved into making parts for 3D printers and the logo and the name was never changed.
scandal! think about it, if called something microUSA. .. I would get sued mullions
“Swiss”…
The name of the machines. :)
@@davidtobin totally not a marketing ploy considering them using the Swiss flag as part of their logo…
Better not be recycling, better be sold for scrap.... otherwise bruh...
shame they perform like hotends from 4 years ago. very cool to see their workflows though.
Cool video, but weird that not a single employee is there to guide you around or tell you about things.
Part of the fun with production is we get to learn all of that, and joel puts together an outline to tell you.
I agree, I think having Joel learn about everything at the same time as the audience would be a better experience.
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tiny parts are Ok but,, going to Company where they manufacturer has CNC Machines the size of large bedrooms and multi tool changer, on the CNC looks like something out of a Terminator Scene where all the Different Terminators get built ,, no Sh_ _ _ it ,,, and lathes half the size of a house making Special Nickle ally bronze props for warships an Crazy Gyros that look like they should be in a space ship " VEEM Enterprises "
While they seem over-built for the part it is currently machining, these are fully (re)programmable and versatile enough to lathe or another to mill anything. I would invest in a machine that can adapt to future designs, else it turns into a dinosaur fast. Example would be the highly-specific monster machines that Detroit used to bore / machine their V8 gas engines- so inflexible to change to the times - made terrible V6 / inline-4 and their cylinder heads - all because Detroit didn't want to re-tool.
Sorry, I misread your point. Yes, machining a huge object at some accuracy is impressive looking, but small sizes don't negate the challenges. Despite the extreme precision of their Swiss lathe when assembling the hardened nozzle assembly, they furthered tolerance thru bin-matching to the final .0001", control plating thickness consistency (and mettalurgy to isolate from galvanic corrosion), account for asymmetrical dimensional shifts during hardening, and press 2 dissimilar metals together calculating that no buckling/etc will occur across the whole target temperature range.
I read an article on the Giant Magellan Telescope. Each mirror is "only" 27 feet across. Surface accuracy to 19 nanometers- about 7.5 * 10^-7 of an inch. Surfacing the 7th/final primary mirror will take 4 years. While each of the 17-ton mirrors don't match up to the largest ship propellers, the accuracy has to extend to the full 7-mirror assembly, which will total 2,000 tons.
Worst hotend I bought twice. It had a flawed design. How do you expect 3 different metals that experience changing temperature to be held by a screw? The result is an eventual messsy leak. So, there is nothing wrong with machines. Excellently machined crap.