Met Jordan in an advance gun fighter course and he is definitely a bad ass and a great shot ! Him and the other DAGRE guys he was with were super humble. It’s awesome you guys got DAGRE on here.
Peaches, Thank you for actually asking the questions you were asking cause no one knows anything about security forces and the good side of things. SF is only known for how bad it is and that takes away from the hard chargers in TRF, DAGRE, RAVEN, 820th, and other units of the like. To be able to apply for DAGRE, you really have to get lucky. Right duty station at the right time with the right rank, not in CDCs, not in trouble, no pending TDYs, cleared medically, and working shift on nights reduces your chances too. It’s SERIOUSLY challenging to get to the door to even shove your foot in it because our own leadership don’t know what DAGRE is. When we go to them asking to better our own careers with things like DAGRE, TRF, etc., 9/10 times, your leadership doesn’t even know those units exist so immediately in their mind is, “oh great, my manning document is going to be down 1 and if this person is high speed then that means I’m going to lose a high speed airman. NOPE! Package denied and it never reaches AMS because I already said no locally”. THATS why there aren’t many people getting into these units because the attempt to go there gets denied and tied up before we can even express the intent to be a higher quality Airman. I do propose an incentive though. I have a legit plan to incorporate SF Airmen into AFSOC but I need the right people to listen to my idea. It’s an idea that I’ve had in mind for 10 years and haven’t had the right leadership to bother listening. If you and the other Ones Ready personnel wouldn’t mind having a quick zoom with me or phone call, I’d be more than happy to share my idea with hopes that you guys can present it to your leadership as well as the Security Forces Center and merge needs of the Air Force with forward important targets and goals to meet. There are good people in SF. We can’t show you that because the wrong leadership on our end is in place preventing a modern growth. I have a fix, it benefits both SF and AFSOC, it a strategic change but a much needed update and I think it can really work. If you’re interested in hearing me out, please comment back to me on this comment letting me know you’re interested and then I will message you directly on Instagram on the One Ready page because I don’t want to disclose my personal email and have a bunch of random people spamming me lol -a prior SF veteran of 10 years and recently separated in 2020. Hit me up!!!
Prior SP/LE... you are right; there are some great people in the career field and little opportunity without cross-training. Back in my day, at TAC HQ, we had our EST team. That was about the best thing E4's and E5's had going. It was something to work for both physically and mentally. I will say this: it seems that in many ways, SF has grown since my day. You have better gear and from what I hear, better training than our old ABGD at Ft. Dix. I have mixed feelings about combining Security and Law Enforcement from SP into SF but that is way above my pay grade. Good luck in your endeavors fellow Defender.
What possible incentive could you have..? DAGRE isn’t hurting for people.. if our actual shreds don’t get bonuses and they request 100-200 people every year to cross-train into those fields..
@@rl8073 what is a chad? Before this younger generation, security forces was always called SF. That whole “secfo” thing only started around 2017, around the same time people started saying “doggo”. Not sure what your comment is trying to accomplish here but….yea
@@coraliscopuselaborat what kind of “love” do you expect? DAGRE is an AMS job that opens up rarely, TRF you have to be at the right base, right time to get on… Not saying what DAGRE does isn’t important, because it is..but it’s nothing insanely special..you’re a Raven with a little more training..nothing that special?
@@hankmardukus2805 doesn’t have to be special to appreciate the work. There are people that love being plumbers but to everyone else, being a plumber is considered “not a good job” when in reality, it is. If you love the work, it’s special to you and that’s what makes the right people in the right job. When passion and drive cross roads, and you’re on the X, that’s how you know you’re doing what you should be doing as far as work and loving what you do-regardless of the job. Dynamic jobs are fun and complex. It doesn’t always have to be “special operations” by definition to still have a good time, learn, meet great people, assist in providing an impact to the bigger picture, etc.
@@coraliscopuselaborat if passion and drive is all you need why does DAGRE or TRF need an incentive?? Also, if passion and drive is was makes the job special why do you care about what people outside of your community think…The answer is, you shouldn’t care..
@@hankmardukus2805 I have no idea where your rant is coming from but there’s clearly something bothering you that has nothing to do with me, this video, or anyone who likes or dislikes anything DAGRE or TRF related. I have a positive comment to someone else who was TRF and you’re responding to me with bitterness about something else. I don’t care what anyone thinks but clearly at some point, AFSOC and SF cared to entertain a conversation and this is the product of that. So….again, not sure what you’re getting at but I wish you well and figure out whatever has you feeling the need to express yourself this way. Cheers, friend.
In 1990 the new general of usaf security police was a former combat controller, who saw a need to have specially trained sky cops to guard special ops aircraft and to augment special forces when needed. Thus was born the special ops cops at hurlburt field, Florida. I was flight chief in portugese azores, I had orders as tactical training instructor to 3rd combat communications group, tafb,ok. My k-9 troop and his bomb dog were asked to join the unit (he was a muscle guy). The units motto "we love the night life". He and his dog were offered airborne, and he was also offered ranger. Around 1992 he ended up in Somalia at the same time of "black hawk down".
Great episode guys! I was wondering if it would be possible to have an intel officer on sometime. There’s really no interviews with that career field anywhere else, and it would be helpful to hear thing like the difference in where they fit in in the intel pipeline compared to SR, eg.
Now do SOF-ME (Special Operations Forces - Medical Element) of AFSOC. And the SO IDMTs (Special Operations Independent Duty Medical Technicians) withing SOF-ME units.
Are there Air National Guard stations that have DAGRE? For me the nearest base that has any type of special warfare airmen jobs is Ellington field in Houston.
Thank you for this video and the information, im stuck between going security forces AF or Maritime Law Enforcement CG and going to a specialized unit in more of a law enforcement based manner. What do you think would be a more feasible path as of 2022? The dagre program or TACLET or other DSF’s in the CG?
So, you would need to complete a mile and a half run in under 11:22? Also, how much time do you need to complete those 50 push ups and sit ups? And do you have to do pull-ups? If you do, how many, and in what given time?
I've heard there are only a handful of actual DAGRE units. And that slots are very few and far between. I've heard pretty much any SF Airmen who meets the criteria can try out. But I've heard that even among those who complete the training, that most of them are still sent back to their parent units. Is there any truth to that?
Is this available for anyone in SF or only specific units? Looking to go into the ANG in Peoria, IL and think this would be a good career goal down the line.
I thought this career field was open applications to all AFSCs via AMS. I thought you did not have to be a SF member to apply - from what I've heard they're looking for more apps. I have my clearance and am at an AFSOC base.
Not true. CAA program depends on what AFOSC you have. If a member of flight operations or any support there of DIRECTLY then you can. It’s a lot of career fields. Also AMS will kickback application of those not assigned to SF career field before an assessment.
Hopefully this podcast will evolve to having actual in person guest. The audio quality is so trash right now. I missed half of the information about the school house and what not. Its like they are still using that barracks Cox internet.
The general security forces stateside mission keeps these folks busy and then these guys layer on additional training and capability. It’s not the same as being in the infantry. Different jobs with different expectations. -T
This is a surprising feature looking at the Security Forces from the AFSOC community. Especially with the history that CCT/PJ career fields have between them and Security Forces. Good to see that past NOT weigh in on a good discourse.
Deployed Aircraft Ground Response Elements are AFSOC Defender teams that are specifically trained and equipped to provide security in a number of different roles. They are not AFSPECWAR, but do support AFSOC and joint partners. - A
so cool im glad you guys covered Dagre instead of HAHO jumping like I had requested in a thoughtful comment that took time and energy for me to type out, not like you could miss it, only have what 20 comments? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
So rather than actually talking about what DAGRE does over seas, they talked about “swimming” lol. No idea the difference between these guys and MPs and dudes standing on a flight line with an m4 by an f16/15 etc.
When they deploy, they provide security for AFSOC personnel and units in austere environments. That can be through security details, advising, site security, and so on. They also work with other career fields, branches, and host nation personnel.
Met Jordan in an advance gun fighter course and he is definitely a bad ass and a great shot ! Him and the other DAGRE guys he was with were super humble. It’s awesome you guys got DAGRE on here.
They’re awesome dudes and they’ll be on again soon! -A
Peaches,
Thank you for actually asking the questions you were asking cause no one knows anything about security forces and the good side of things. SF is only known for how bad it is and that takes away from the hard chargers in TRF, DAGRE, RAVEN, 820th, and other units of the like.
To be able to apply for DAGRE, you really have to get lucky. Right duty station at the right time with the right rank, not in CDCs, not in trouble, no pending TDYs, cleared medically, and working shift on nights reduces your chances too. It’s SERIOUSLY challenging to get to the door to even shove your foot in it because our own leadership don’t know what DAGRE is. When we go to them asking to better our own careers with things like DAGRE, TRF, etc., 9/10 times, your leadership doesn’t even know those units exist so immediately in their mind is, “oh great, my manning document is going to be down 1 and if this person is high speed then that means I’m going to lose a high speed airman. NOPE! Package denied and it never reaches AMS because I already said no locally”.
THATS why there aren’t many people getting into these units because the attempt to go there gets denied and tied up before we can even express the intent to be a higher quality Airman.
I do propose an incentive though. I have a legit plan to incorporate SF Airmen into AFSOC but I need the right people to listen to my idea. It’s an idea that I’ve had in mind for 10 years and haven’t had the right leadership to bother listening. If you and the other Ones Ready personnel wouldn’t mind having a quick zoom with me or phone call, I’d be more than happy to share my idea with hopes that you guys can present it to your leadership as well as the Security Forces Center and merge needs of the Air Force with forward important targets and goals to meet.
There are good people in SF. We can’t show you that because the wrong leadership on our end is in place preventing a modern growth.
I have a fix, it benefits both SF and AFSOC, it a strategic change but a much needed update and I think it can really work.
If you’re interested in hearing me out, please comment back to me on this comment letting me know you’re interested and then I will message you directly on Instagram on the One Ready page because I don’t want to disclose my personal email and have a bunch of random people spamming me lol
-a prior SF veteran of 10 years and recently separated in 2020. Hit me up!!!
This is Aaron, DM sent. Hit me up.
Prior SP/LE... you are right; there are some great people in the career field and little opportunity without cross-training. Back in my day, at TAC HQ, we had our EST team. That was about the best thing E4's and E5's had going. It was something to work for both physically and mentally.
I will say this: it seems that in many ways, SF has grown since my day. You have better gear and from what I hear, better training than our old ABGD at Ft. Dix. I have mixed feelings about combining Security and Law Enforcement from SP into SF but that is way above my pay grade.
Good luck in your endeavors fellow Defender.
What possible incentive could you have..? DAGRE isn’t hurting for people.. if our actual shreds don’t get bonuses and they request 100-200 people every year to cross-train into those fields..
calling security focres sf, does not make you a chad. thanks.
@@rl8073 what is a chad? Before this younger generation, security forces was always called SF. That whole “secfo” thing only started around 2017, around the same time people started saying “doggo”. Not sure what your comment is trying to accomplish here but….yea
Glad we got DAGRE on here 🤙🏽 and also a prior TRF DAGRE ⚔️
I wasn’t DAGRE but was TRF and there isn’t enough love shared on our breed within SF because we all know SF is ass. Good on you! In Extremis!
@@coraliscopuselaborat what kind of “love” do you expect? DAGRE is an AMS job that opens up rarely, TRF you have to be at the right base, right time to get on…
Not saying what DAGRE does isn’t important, because it is..but it’s nothing insanely special..you’re a Raven with a little more training..nothing that special?
@@hankmardukus2805 doesn’t have to be special to appreciate the work. There are people that love being plumbers but to everyone else, being a plumber is considered “not a good job” when in reality, it is. If you love the work, it’s special to you and that’s what makes the right people in the right job. When passion and drive cross roads, and you’re on the X, that’s how you know you’re doing what you should be doing as far as work and loving what you do-regardless of the job. Dynamic jobs are fun and complex. It doesn’t always have to be “special operations” by definition to still have a good time, learn, meet great people, assist in providing an impact to the bigger picture, etc.
@@coraliscopuselaborat if passion and drive is all you need why does DAGRE or TRF need an incentive?? Also, if passion and drive is was makes the job special why do you care about what people outside of your community think…The answer is, you shouldn’t care..
@@hankmardukus2805 I have no idea where your rant is coming from but there’s clearly something bothering you that has nothing to do with me, this video, or anyone who likes or dislikes anything DAGRE or TRF related. I have a positive comment to someone else who was TRF and you’re responding to me with bitterness about something else. I don’t care what anyone thinks but clearly at some point, AFSOC and SF cared to entertain a conversation and this is the product of that. So….again, not sure what you’re getting at but I wish you well and figure out whatever has you feeling the need to express yourself this way. Cheers, friend.
In 1990 the new general of usaf security police was a former combat controller, who saw a need to have specially trained sky cops to guard special ops aircraft and to augment special forces when needed. Thus was born the special ops cops at hurlburt field, Florida. I was flight chief in portugese azores, I had orders as tactical training instructor to 3rd combat communications group, tafb,ok. My k-9 troop and his bomb dog were asked to join the unit (he was a muscle guy). The units motto "we love the night life". He and his dog were offered airborne, and he was also offered ranger. Around 1992 he ended up in Somalia at the same time of "black hawk down".
DAGRE #149 Raven #1796 tappin in. Currently in Army OCS. Still putting in that work…😎
been wanting to do DAGRE thank you for this video. CAA would be another cool video. Chief Smith would be a great guy for the video!
Check out our video on CAA- Justin was awesome and talked all about it.
@@OnesReady awesome i will thank you
So glad they are talking about this!!!
Great episode guys! I was wondering if it would be possible to have an intel officer on sometime. There’s really no interviews with that career field anywhere else, and it would be helpful to hear thing like the difference in where they fit in in the intel pipeline compared to SR, eg.
Great video! Could they dive in more about the Guard and Reserve DAGRE as far as selection or their process to get the ball rolling.
Following, are DAGRE’s in the Guard/Reserve recruiting?
Now do SOF-ME (Special Operations Forces - Medical Element) of AFSOC. And the SO IDMTs (Special Operations Independent Duty Medical Technicians) withing SOF-ME units.
Word. If anyone has any contacts there, pass em along. Dm on IG works best.
I was going to say the same thing 😂😂😂.
Need some AFSOC SMA interviews. Loadmasters, engineers, gunners. Maybe some retired old school SOF aviation dudes.
Are there Air National Guard stations that have DAGRE? For me the nearest base that has any type of special warfare airmen jobs is Ellington field in Houston.
One Guard base in PA and one Reserve unit in FL.
Moving forward perhaps a mic check or 2 b4 getting started would be beneficial. Had a hard time hearing the one on the right. Otherwise cool stuff!
Thank you for this video and the information, im stuck between going security forces AF or Maritime Law Enforcement CG and going to a specialized unit in more of a law enforcement based manner. What do you think would be a more feasible path as of 2022? The dagre program or TACLET or other DSF’s in the CG?
As retired Air Force Security Forces definitely go to CG because you get federal creds that you can right to work for federal law enforcement
Insightful. Thanks guys.
So, you would need to complete a mile and a half run in under 11:22? Also, how much time do you need to complete those 50 push ups and sit ups? And do you have to do pull-ups? If you do, how many, and in what given time?
SF/DAGRE have one minute for the push ups and sit ups. Pull ups are not required but you will do that at the DAGRE tech school/training
@@Texasmayne89 thanks for the clarification I’m thinking about joining
Great video and informative! 👍🏽
Would one recommend going the DAGRE route or cross train into TACP?
I've heard there are only a handful of actual DAGRE units. And that slots are very few and far between. I've heard pretty much any SF Airmen who meets the criteria can try out. But I've heard that even among those who complete the training, that most of them are still sent back to their parent units. Is there any truth to that?
I’ve heard a statement about DAGRE being coated under AFSOC. With that statement does that mean they are saying that DAGRE is a tier 3 soc unit?
So just be a senior airman and apply to where exactly? Did I miss all that? Please help.
Is this available for anyone in SF or only specific units? Looking to go into the ANG in Peoria, IL and think this would be a good career goal down the line.
Can you do ravens next? How elite are dagre and ravens?
They’re not.
@@wchalk6158 if you’re not either you wouldn’t know
I thought this career field was open applications to all AFSCs via AMS. I thought you did not have to be a SF member to apply - from what I've heard they're looking for more apps. I have my clearance and am at an AFSOC base.
Are they hurting for people?
@@ATaveras It's what I've heard, just because the career field is so small and extra demanding compared to standard SF on base
Not true. CAA program depends on what AFOSC you have. If a member of flight operations or any support there of DIRECTLY then you can. It’s a lot of career fields. Also AMS will kickback application of those not assigned to SF career field before an assessment.
They should make it its own afsc. Would be so much better!
How would the process look for a prior service Marine?
Hit us up on DMs, we can get you to the right person.
Does DAGRE take officers at all?
Currently, yes. -A
Does it require jump school?
Not required, no. There may be opportunity to attend in the future. - A
Nice 💯
Everybody seems to be special nowadays.
No wings or bubbles = not special
Very cool!
Hopefully this podcast will evolve to having actual in person guest. The
audio quality is so trash right now. I missed half of the information
about the school house and what not. Its like they are still using that
barracks Cox internet.
We hope so too, and thanks for the feedback. Pun intended.
Nice
Sorry for a repetitive question but can tacp go to a special tactics advance skill course and combat medic?? If it’s available anyway
Why would a TACP need to be a medic? Do you think that TACP gets no medical training? Or….?
@@OnesReady tbh no clue. I was just watching a general discharge video and it was labeled up there so just wanted to hear straight from a horses mouth
Following. I'm also curious of any of that what General Discharge said was true
Great video 👍🏼
Thank you!
Not hating.. but their training is literally what grunts do.. but less. But respect to these guys .. glad to see AF getting after it
The general security forces stateside mission keeps these folks busy and then these guys layer on additional training and capability. It’s not the same as being in the infantry. Different jobs with different expectations. -T
🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@OnesReady well said
This is a surprising feature looking at the Security Forces from the AFSOC community. Especially with the history that CCT/PJ career fields have between them and Security Forces. Good to see that past NOT weigh in on a good discourse.
Is DAGRE part of special warfare or do they just support special warfare airmen?
Deployed Aircraft Ground Response Elements are AFSOC Defender teams that are specifically trained and equipped to provide security in a number of different roles. They are not AFSPECWAR, but do support AFSOC and joint partners. - A
Ravens next !
so cool im glad you guys covered Dagre instead of HAHO jumping like I had requested in a thoughtful comment that took time and energy for me to type out, not like you could miss it, only have what 20 comments? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This is, by far, the best comment we have ever received. Thank you.
So rather than actually talking about what DAGRE does over seas, they talked about “swimming” lol. No idea the difference between these guys and MPs and dudes standing on a flight line with an m4 by an f16/15 etc.
Sweet! Do you have a specific question we can help with? DAGRE was pretty well explained… if it would help we can re-phrase it?
When they deploy, they provide security for AFSOC personnel and units in austere environments. That can be through security details, advising, site security, and so on. They also work with other career fields, branches, and host nation personnel.