I appreciate the included crash too. It shows an aspect of the bike that I was curious about. Black ice is dangerous. I got a concussion from trying to brake cycling downhill on black ice when I was young. This set of videos has me craving a off road recumbent.
I've ridden my PDQ off-road a lot. It's good fun but there are three serious drawbacks. 1. You can't lift the front wheel (except power wheelies, see 3). 2. You can't lift the rear wheel at all, so no ends or hops or jumps. 3. On very steep climb a your weight is so far back the front wheel lift under pedalling power, so much so that you often loop out.
Ride gravel frequently including loose gravel on the Bacchetta Giro A26 . As for single track perhaps a bicycle with shocks and suspension like the one above is required. The bike's wide U bars would also help Wonder what the weight is?
I used to ride an early model HPV streetmachine on this kind of track all the time in the nineties, never had any difficulty. I think any short wheelbase recumbent can handle this kind of situation OK.
Tnx for nice videos, keep it up. Just to add few suggestions : 1. your leg line is almost straight in "low" pedal position, get the bottom bracket back a few cm , 2. lower the steering bar, there is no need for such "high" open cocpit position and by that you will get better visibility and less flex
Thanks for the suggestions. I have noticed that the seat adjustment is slipping a little bit when pushing hard. So that's why it looks like the bottom bracket is too far away. It's actually the seat that has moved backwards little by little. I agree, the steering bar is quite high. I have been lowering it, but because the only way to lower it is to cut a piece out of the stem, I always want to properly test it after every cut to be sure I don't cut too much.
How is handling feel on flat with very low speed + steep uphill with same low speed? I got hamster steering, can do trackstand while holding stem vertically, but obiviously cant go uphill in this position, because i need strong back seat support.
Just a little bit of texture helps a lot with loose ground, especially on a recumbent.. Second best thing, albeit a little counter-intuitive for people like me with low bikes(I ride a Challenge Taifun): Sitting as upright as possible helps with the balance.. So ditching the slicks and changing your position gets you through most things. Mud and really deep sand might be another topic altogether, though..
That"s why I prefer foldable tillers.. You can get both positions when you need them.. But I'm riding mostly on roads and having to sit up to get through a more challenging bit doesn't occur very often.. But the Taifun really isn't made for winter, I guess :)
Nimenomaan siellähän sitä pannuttaa missä sitä vähiten odottaa. Kannattaa kaatua sellaisessa paikassa jossa on mahdollisimman paljon katsojia, silloin sattuu vähiten ja vituttaa eniten, keskellä metsää yleensä toisinpäin ;D
Enpä ole nojakkia livenä maastossa nähnyt! Voisi kuvitella että kehon painon käyttö on tuossa rajoitetumpaa kuin pystypyörässä, mikä varmasti hankaloittaa maastoajoa. Lipat silläkin näköjään ottaa yhtä salakavalasti :-D
Joo ei tuolla voi hyppiä ja kikkailla. Ja teknisessä vaikeassa maastossa tuolla on varmasti hankala ajaa. Mutta tuollaisilla hyvillä metsäpoluilla tuo on ihan mainio peli.
I prefer clipless because you get more power to the pedals with them. For this bike I chose double sided pedals because I thought I need a bike that I can just grab and ride a short distance with normal shoes if I ever need to.
@@TheVelomobileChannel Yeah I just wanted to let you know I’ve had it happen to me a couple times and I only have a few subscribers but I enjoy your channel and I’m back
Hi Saukki, I really like how "real life" your videos are, how you're not shy on showing crashes or low batteries. Keep it on, man! :)
I appreciate the included crash too. It shows an aspect of the bike that I was curious about. Black ice is dangerous. I got a concussion from trying to brake cycling downhill on black ice when I was young. This set of videos has me craving a off road recumbent.
I've ridden my PDQ off-road a lot. It's good fun but there are three serious drawbacks. 1. You can't lift the front wheel (except power wheelies, see 3). 2. You can't lift the rear wheel at all, so no ends or hops or jumps. 3. On very steep climb a your weight is so far back the front wheel lift under pedalling power, so much so that you often loop out.
Yeah, the bid advantage of the conventional bikes is that your legs are most of the suspension.
Nice trails without too much mud. It was the first time for me to see a stem bent. It has always been the handlebars.
It was suprise for me as well.
There is a lot of this kind of trails just near the center of Kokkola.
Nice! You might find tiller steering with a fairly upright flip stem more manoeuvrable and safer than the superman bars.
You did great off road. Maybe one day the Tour Divide?
Love your videos
Ride gravel frequently including loose gravel on the Bacchetta Giro A26 . As for single track perhaps a bicycle with shocks and suspension like the one above is required.
The bike's wide U bars would also help
Wonder what the weight is?
It s fun to watch, but most important; did you have fun? Looked quite comfortable for exploring the woods a bit :).
It was fun. I’m going to go explore more trails later 😄
I used to ride an early model HPV streetmachine on this kind of track all the time in the nineties, never had any difficulty. I think any short wheelbase recumbent can handle this kind of situation OK.
I did a bit of off road on my Ratcatcher burrows recumbent in the south of France 🇫🇷, didn't like it :)
KW BentRiDer Hahahaha :)
fit wider and bigger tires if they fit and lose some airpressure
Tnx for nice videos, keep it up. Just to add few suggestions : 1. your leg line is almost straight in "low" pedal position, get the bottom bracket back a few cm , 2. lower the steering bar, there is no need for such "high" open cocpit position and by that you will get better visibility and less flex
Thanks for the suggestions. I have noticed that the seat adjustment is slipping a little bit when pushing hard. So that's why it looks like the bottom bracket is too far away. It's actually the seat that has moved backwards little by little.
I agree, the steering bar is quite high. I have been lowering it, but because the only way to lower it is to cut a piece out of the stem, I always want to properly test it after every cut to be sure I don't cut too much.
Ever considered the ICE Full Fat for off-roading?
Full fat trikes sure looks like fun. But I guess trike needs quite wide trails. Not all trails are that wide 🤔
How is handling feel on flat with very low speed + steep uphill with same low speed? I got hamster steering, can do trackstand while holding stem vertically, but obiviously cant go uphill in this position, because i need strong back seat support.
The problem with low speed is that you have to do larger steering manovers, but the heel of your shoe hits the front wheel if you are not careful.
I'd say that climbs would suck but, you could constantly pedal on techie climbs with zero pedal strikes
i would use othere tyres to go off road because of sand paths on road it works best on normal tyres
I have Michelin Wild Racer tyres. I think they are ok for this kind of terrain.
othere print like on road for track & fields
Just a little bit of texture helps a lot with loose ground, especially on a recumbent.. Second best thing, albeit a little counter-intuitive for people like me with low bikes(I ride a Challenge Taifun): Sitting as upright as possible helps with the balance.. So ditching the slicks and changing your position gets you through most things. Mud and really deep sand might be another topic altogether, though..
Sitting as upright as possible helps with the balance..but not helpng when you go speed on flat.
That"s why I prefer foldable tillers.. You can get both positions when you need them.. But I'm riding mostly on roads and having to sit up to get through a more challenging bit doesn't occur very often.. But the Taifun really isn't made for winter, I guess :)
I’d love to have a couple beers and give that a shot lol
Nimenomaan siellähän sitä pannuttaa missä sitä vähiten odottaa. Kannattaa kaatua sellaisessa paikassa jossa on mahdollisimman paljon katsojia, silloin sattuu vähiten ja vituttaa eniten, keskellä metsää yleensä toisinpäin ;D
Hello! How much is that kind of bike and where to buy it? Thank you.
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Enpä ole nojakkia livenä maastossa nähnyt! Voisi kuvitella että kehon painon käyttö on tuossa rajoitetumpaa kuin pystypyörässä, mikä varmasti hankaloittaa maastoajoa. Lipat silläkin näköjään ottaa yhtä salakavalasti :-D
Joo ei tuolla voi hyppiä ja kikkailla. Ja teknisessä vaikeassa maastossa tuolla on varmasti hankala ajaa. Mutta tuollaisilla hyvillä metsäpoluilla tuo on ihan mainio peli.
Shmoke anna pancake?
I want one.
Hi! Nice video! I ride on Max too and have the same crashes :). Do you use contract pedals? What do you think about using them?
I prefer clipless because you get more power to the pedals with them. For this bike I chose double sided pedals because I thought I need a bike that I can just grab and ride a short distance with normal shoes if I ever need to.
You might want to check your subscription service because I could’ve sworn I was subscribed to you and I just had to do it again
Hmm... there's nothing I can do if TH-cam randomly decides to unsubscribe my followers. That's too bad :(
@@TheVelomobileChannel Yeah I just wanted to let you know I’ve had it happen to me a couple times and I only have a few subscribers but I enjoy your channel and I’m back
Next time take your velomobile offroad
Hah 😄 Velostrada has done it already 😜 th-cam.com/video/_aOrIMyNtUY/w-d-xo.html
And I think that’s not my cup of tea 😄
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That looks so stupidly overcomplicated. A regular mountain bike is more suited to this kind of terrain because you can stand on the pedals.
I agree. A regular mtb is much better off-road. I’m just proving a point that you can go off-road also with a recumbent if you want.
@@TheVelomobileChannel Don't worry, I ride a mountain unicycle, which is almost definitely the most stupid way to ride on rough trails.
Hah 😄 that must be even worse than a recumbent. But at least it’s not overcomplicated 😁
Laughed so hard when you bent the handlebars back! Sorry, but unless your injured, recumbent s are so corny