Trying to understand displeased players

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  • @michaelcarrig627
    @michaelcarrig627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Devs are not trying to lower the skill ceiling, they are lowering the skill floor.

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahaha, you are right.

    • @mvargasmoran
      @mvargasmoran 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and that works every time xD

  • @greatestgamer00
    @greatestgamer00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if im wining Games great if im losing its wack- Video game discourse in a nutsheell

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are not wrong.

  • @martin99110
    @martin99110 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am new to SF.
    Got the game a month ago.
    The only reason I got the game is because of a random recommended TH-cam video. That TH-camr said it’s fun and easier to understand for newer players. Modern controls helped me into the game. Now I’m playing Juri with classic
    I remember seeing SF5 and I saw the community saying it’s a bad game. I just didn’t buy it.
    People need to stop saying “this game is the worst game ever” instead they should give their reasons and maybe offer solutions. I just see so many recent videos on “sf6 is shit” and “Tekken is unplayable”
    If I saw those videos today, I can say for certain I wouldn’t had bought SF6. My take on this is FGC likes to complain about everything.

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree! Content creators should provide arguments...Also, clickbaity titles help with the algorithm but not with the general feeling of the game.

  • @Eidlones
    @Eidlones 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I never really got the lariat hate as an anti-air. Its always been really solid for me, works 95% of the time, with me chalking the 5% it fails as a me issue.
    Unless its a crossup of course

    • @Jardonius
      @Jardonius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only hate Lariat because when I'm not playing Gief I forgot and try to push two punches for my anti air instead of DP input and that is definitely the lariat's fault and not mine.

  • @Agonystt
    @Agonystt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But good news is that everything is just so easy to fix. A good patch is all it takes, and that's not usual for fighting games, most are really far from being really good

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do have a gigantic task with 6, since the drive system is so integral to the frames and spacing.

  • @Agonystt
    @Agonystt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lariat is bad because it fails eventually. And because of Gief having such trash tools, it makes sense for it to work 100% of the time

  • @keenanvanaalst9865
    @keenanvanaalst9865 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LARRIET IS GREAT ANTI AIR. I USE ZANGIEF AND I ONLY BEEN PLAYING 3 WEEKS HAVENT PLAYED SF SINCE SUPERSF2 IN THE ARCADE I PLAYED ALL MY PLACEMENT MATCHES AND IM DIAMOND 2. DI IS HARD TO GET USED TO BUT ITS FUN. I DIDNT PLAY 3RD STRIKE 4 OR 5 SO THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME.

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to SF6!

  • @CagunFGC
    @CagunFGC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you get that plush in the background? I must know 🤔

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think I ordered it online. It was part of the Sanrio x SF collab. I don't remember where I got the small Gief I have hanging on the mic.

  • @mvargasmoran
    @mvargasmoran 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So you are a Sajam fan now?

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can't escape that powerful hair

    • @mvargasmoran
      @mvargasmoran 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SiberianLab 💇‍♂

  • @naklyaFGC
    @naklyaFGC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched sajams video about burnout and i have a little something to say:
    While i agree with it, i found it to be a little misleading. Because not everyone is ken to have a safe heavy special to cancel into after flying through the screen lol.
    For real tho, ive been losing pretty bad recently but i still have fond memories playing the game, so i keep coming back. there are just a few little things i find annoying but its not enough to feel like i cant make it to 1800mr again and be a competitive player in the future perhaps💪

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel the discussion around negativity is very interesting, cause it's totally justified. The lack of balance clearly makes people angry, and FG are a hard genre to get into already. I'm glad you are pushing it and getting better.

    • @naklyaFGC
      @naklyaFGC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SiberianLab me too! its very comforting seeing the community unanimously agree to things, but theres not a lot of videos discussing tiny bits of things that id like to hear, such are safe sweeps>:(

    • @vasilykiselev6285
      @vasilykiselev6285 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SiberianLabi feel like fg's are hard to get in and it should stay that way for the sake of fg's

  • @cgarcia4tt
    @cgarcia4tt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By any chance were you watching Low Tier God?😂

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahaha. I'll leave it as a mystery.

    • @WillyMerc
      @WillyMerc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sonic sol I bet

    • @PipeRetrogamer
      @PipeRetrogamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it could've been anyone. even me 😂

    • @mvargasmoran
      @mvargasmoran 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most likely it was ltg xD

    • @keenanvanaalst9865
      @keenanvanaalst9865 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOW TIER IS A CRY BABY

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They don't want to lower the ceiling. And there is no evidence it has been lowered. They may have raised the floor or made it easier to climb. But it's extremely clear via the consistency of pro players in sf6 that the ceiling hasn't been meaningfully lowered. Show me the great players losing random sets at any frequency.
    People went from a game they played for 6 years to something brand new and anything new is frustrating. Then we assume they must be right because they're pros. I strongly disagree with them, and again I simply would ask for evidence that like, Mena and all his work and consistency is meaningless in the face of the supposed randomness of sf6. Why are he, nuckle du, punk able to consistently top our tourneys? And the people that give then trouble are also consistent... And guess what even that isn't the ceiling because Japan is whupping us right now.
    So there's more ceiling ABOVE the consistent ceiling shown in the west.
    And we wanna say the ceiling has been meaningfully lowered? Nah not me. And if it was? I'd be the first to say, I'm gonna play this other game. I think Aa lot about the games I play and watch and respect. Are they too random, do they reward skill. If they don't, I am not interested.
    This one clearly does. And we're not even close to the top.

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In terms of mechanics and gameplan, they've been changing them for easier use since SF4. SF6 being the easiest of them so far. Thus, it has been lowered for everyone. Is that a good of bad thing? I guess it depends on who you ask. However, the beauty of fighting games is the training and getting better, imho. Devs have to be careful around that balance, and I don't think they quite got it with SF6. I understand how frustrating this game can be.
      SF is one of those games which always changes from version to version. I do like that about this series.

  • @hectorgarcia5814
    @hectorgarcia5814 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spd opponents drive rush is a reliable strategy?

    • @lucksak
      @lucksak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a good option to weave in, but if they realize you are going for it wvery time they can just cancel drive rush into a jump.

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do it a few times to test them. Don't go for SPD right away. If they jump, you know what to do.

    • @hectorgarcia5814
      @hectorgarcia5814 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SiberianLab my problem is I don’t know how to input it fast enough or buffer it even know I know they are going to drive rush at me mindlessly

    • @snap_drama346
      @snap_drama346 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Especially when your walking back and forth lol ​@@hectorgarcia5814

  • @andoru69
    @andoru69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "watched ranked and he was complaining all the time"
    stop watching DSP and LTG

    • @SiberianLab
      @SiberianLab  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahaha. Good guesses but they weren't the player.