I don’t get why we don’t just consistently ask Ed for buffs under all his tweets like what Mileena fans did for MK11. Like I would just clip the footage of the projectile trade between Cyrax and sub and post that.
I appreciate the tom starting by showing a real example. Real evidence is always good. And yes, I do think a trade with iceball should just be a trade. SHe shouldnt get a full combo punish like that. I think. Or at least make enahcned iceball be a normal projectiel as far as speed.
I’m gonna say it again no one is crying for a sub buff this video proves why he needs buffs. Every other character can do 8-12 hits for at least 30-40% dmg sub can do it but you have to enhance all the moves and even at that it takes 14-30 hits to even achieve that high % dmg
Man sometimes I honestly believe they made Sub Zero 🚮 just to troll Sikander. He still kicks ssa with Sub Zero, but you can definitely tell it’s an uphill battle.😂💯
NRS has hated sub since mk9. Remember the main menu screen when you pressed start Scorpion x ray punched sub zero in the face knocking all his teeth out 😆
Followed by the first INJ game where as an intro you see Scorpion ready to punch (or maybe kiII too) SZ who is on his knees 🙄 Is like that mofo Ed Boon undercoverIy disIikes that S-Z has plenty of popularity too ..or at least he tries to make Scorpion as the 'better character'. 🙄
Very technical and fair requests, as a Sub Zero main (now trying to pick up Noob), I hope they listen 🙏 I was shocked when I found out that huge patch list had nothing for Sub Zero.
Crazy. Given the ridiculous amount of tools the DLC characters get. Giving extra moves or BnB combos to the whole base roster the way they blessed Reptile & Rain while back like all the Sub buffs Tom spoke of, Smoke getting his Smoke Bomb, etc. would've set everything right.
Right on dude. I was thinking the same like Hello? NRS? Give sub less damage scaling on deadly vapors, give him a fast ice ball like cyrax, buff the enhanced clone and make his overhead faster and safe
I'm an old guy who played MK1 in the arcades. I can't undestand how NR could let either Scorpion, Sub-Zero or Liu Kang NOT be great in any MK, they are the OG poster boys.
What they need to do is make his ice ball faster! Also you should be able to combo strings into ice ball… make the ice clone better and longer.. give him a little more damage.. make his back 2 overhead faster on startup… if they do these subzero will be a solid character! What pisses me off about NRS is that they can make all these other characters broken and good and buff characters like Havik but they won’t do shit to that boy Subzero.. like nrs is buggin
EXACTLY!!!! EVERYTHING I SAID YOU SAID!!! Its crazy they gave cyrax all of that with twice speed to foam freeze on top of it lasting longer and with no cool downs on it or on the ground bombs
Been obvious for awhile just have to look at how hes treated in the lore and notice whenever they showcase a mk for the first time its usually him getting murdered.. grandmaster neans nothing to them and last time he was given any respect was mk9
Hell of you wanna get technical he also gets screwed when it comes to cosmetics cause in mkx he barely got as much as scorpion, still decent compared to the rest of the roster in number and quality but then with mk11 he gets alot less, practically no good kombat league skins and most are absolute dips in quality, especially when it came to colors
Not even in MK9. He was the punching bag in every merchandise by trailers and even a book end collectible. In MK11, they brought back past Scorpion that Sub-Zero beat 23 years ago to beat his ass and called him old. They don't want to give him any respect. lol
@@hands-ongaming7180More like MK9...Stryker beat so many he shouldn't have been able to lol. Ermac should be GG, unfortunately I cast telekinesis, sit down scrub. Kintaro should also be GG, you can have this flame breath, too. Nightwolf is also GG. The guy was able to take Sindel with him.
It's that DLC character buff, gotta sell those characters. Then *poof* nerf as the new ones come out. lol Sub, truly is the bastard step child of Ed Boon, must be John's favorite character I bet. lol
I mean, it was. John Tobias made MK Mythologies where Bi-Han beats Demi-Gods like Fujin, Scorpion (twice), Quan Chi, and Shinnok to an extent. Even in MK Armageddon, Kuai Liang can be seen as on par with Dark Raiden since he's the only one still standing against Taven. Nowadays, Bi-Han or Kuai Liang can't catch a break. Not only did Sub-Zero have to keep taking L's in every advertisement in MK9, but they always write Kuai Liang an excuse to why he loses against Scorpion. MK9 - Sub beats Scorpion because he knows he killed his brother unlike MK2. MKX Comics - Sub held back and didn't want to fight Scorpion. MKX - Sub didn't want to fight again since he wanted a truce, but he beat his student Takeda after Takeda already won a sparring session against Hanzo. MK11 - Sub got old in like 3 years time (which is why Hanzo comment that Kuai Liang failed to hear his footsteps in time). They did this so the same Scorpion he fought like 23 years ago can beat his ass when he's already Grandmaster. There's like a Civil War in the Writer's Room. I'm not even joking. When it comes to game balance, Sub has to be low tier because everyone hates Ice Clone.
Sub Zero didn’t even get a damn frame change. It’s heart wrenching 😭 I honestly thought they would at least give him a decent projectile, like his ice axe, especially with how they haven’t give him shit, except a consistent ice clone. Same old shit with Khaos Reigns😅
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN, you just took the video right out of my computer!!! I was about to make a Sub buff video with the following changes: a.) 25-frame Ice Ball/EX Ice Ball like Tanya b.) Remove gaps in 122 and 21 c.) Shorten Klone recovery to 25 frames like Cyrax bomb I still might make that video, but you told the whole truth here!
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 "New era" isn't an excuse. Notice how all the important/popular characters weren't genderbent. Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Liu Kang, Raiden, Kitana, Shang Tsung, Mileena, Sindel, Reptile, Johnny, Kung Lao, Kenshi; if any of those characters were genderbent there would be outrage. Why would there be outrage? Because people actually love those characters and if you genderbend them they would NOT be the same character. MK would literally be a joke in the FG community (much more than it already is) if it genderbent its iconic characters. Good luck telling people "doesn't matter it's a new era" LOL
Buff is crazy, nerfed his only good move, he has T. rex arms, projectiles are mid, his spin is mid at best as well, no combo routes or good meterless launchers, can barely whiff with his best buttons
Oh we already know. Cuz half the roster that was already better than Sub got buffs while he got nothing. It's comedic, NRS is just trolling the Sub players at this point.
I said this today on siks stream, cyrax is broken. Those bombs force you to block even when she doesn't hit confirm. Not to mention that fast foam ball
Bring back Icetomb teleport! EDIT: The comparison between Ice ball and Cyrax's projectile is just ridiculous. I don't know who in their right mind would look at this and say it's fine. Good suggestions concerning the changes, although I'd say it wouldn't hurt anyone if Sub's Slide was considered as crouching state during the entire move.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 until the whole community decides to stop glazing and that this game is not ok nothing will change not sub sub zero not ferra not Johnny not Ed not James not Jake not Bobby not Mike nothing will change I def won’t be playing lol I knew the second I saw bumblebee the wakandan soldier what was going to happen lmfaooooo
When I saw that Khaos Reigns trailer, I immediately deleted MK1 from my ps5. Because I knew immediately where it was going story and gameplay wise…. Into 🚮
While I do think Sub-Zero definitely needs buffs in MK1, I don't think NRS hates Sub-Zero. His current state is likely a reaction to how broken he was in MK11
By that logic they also hate Raiden. In MK11 they gave him a two slot tele move that was worse than Cetrions base kit. And this game they give cyrax a better tele move than him as well. I like how strong Cyrax is, but it's annoying to see her get tools that other characters should be able to use as effectively based on their history. Sub ice ball shouldn't lose to booger bomb if cyrax gets all the setup option off it and sub gets very little. It also shouldn't outright be twice as good lmao
Tom, NRS doesn't hate Sub Zero! That's pretty ridiculous to say. NRS hates YOU, so they're just holding your character back as ultimate payback for going rogue 😂😂😂
Tom, after all this time MK1 is out it's pretty safe to say some characters are just not allowed to live. Why? Honestly, no one knows. The bottom 10 characters are ROUGH in this game. It's come to the point where we got to accept it and move on. Li Mei's also never going to get additional moves even though her gameplan is so dry. GG brother.
They hate Reptile more than they hate anyone else! Sub-Zero just got a buff. They keep f****** with Reptile and nerfing him patch after patch after patch after patch after patch.
Am I crazy or wasn’t sub’s Freezing point string, supposed to be able to combo? I thought that was one of the changes coming to the game but I guess not. If he could special cancel off the last hit it could give him new combo routes. I want to see characters elevated to the level of the new dlc characters.
One thing that I don’t see enough from sub is using forward 1,2 in to armored clone in to the kung lao set up you could show a little tec with it Tom Brady
One thing that I don’t see enough from sub is using forward 1,2 in to armored clone in to the corner in to the kung lao set up you could show a little tec with it Tom Brady
I hear ya but I think we have to acknowledge that cyrax trades strong specials for weak normals. She has no low combo starter and a very slow overhead (slower than sub). I’m just saying, despite the bomb shenanigans, she has weaknesses. If you compare her strings to his it’s obvious that sub wins there.
They hate SZ, Kung Lao and they also hate brining a bit more FEMALE characters for the DLC stuff. YEARS passed and we still not have AT LEAST ONE singIe female GUEST character. (even if the people or the fans already gave them plenty of examples for cool / bada$$ potential guest femaIe characters).
@@Designation6 yeah, sure, now compare them to guests from kombat pack 2 (and kombat pack 1 too) in terms of how famous they are. I mean most people have to google to find out who are the suggested characters, lol. I know Bayonetta, i kinda heard of Samus Aran (i am not nintendo player), but i had to google the rest. Guests should be less niche and more recognizable, so more people want to pay.
@@Designation6 here is my list of female characters: Trinity (The Matrix), Lara Croft, TX (or Sarah Connor), Furiosa (maybe). Bayonetta is cool choice too i guess. Ofc there are so many good female characters in DC but leave them for Injustice.
@@jerrellsimmons144k6 This new move is -4 on block, which is fine. I guess you want a 10 frames mid which allows you to keep your turn (so plus on block?) You kinda want too much. Also, they nerfed his db4, so it doesn't connect after 333 anymore. It isn't listed anywhere. In any case Liu Kang is strong and balanced character, and imo he doesn't need big buffs (if at all). I would only make his fatal blow animation faster so it connects better.
@@diomed2251ending with flying kick or bicycle is still a viable option. Bicycle kick gives a bit less good of an Oki. And flying kick ender sets up zoning. Liu is fine. Use Farrah
They also nerfed Shao when his DF2 gets interrupted… now Reiko is the only one who doesn’t have scaling with his grab is interrupted… Reminder they nerfed Mavado’s DMG twice before they buffed him ( -100HP to -50HP ) Sektor might be a better Anti-zoner than Omni-Man
They hate sub so much he got trash damage no new moves majority of the roster got new moves and buffs and he dies in the story turns noob saves the world and still gets locked up even after saving the world like wtf 😂
However sub needs some serious help though. I feel like I'm playing slower than the rest of the characters when playing sub zero. It's coming soon. They are going to give him some help. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
I don’t get why we don’t just consistently ask Ed for buffs under all his tweets like what Mileena fans did for MK11. Like I would just clip the footage of the projectile trade between Cyrax and sub and post that.
I appreciate the tom starting by showing a real example. Real evidence is always good. And yes, I do think a trade with iceball should just be a trade. SHe shouldnt get a full combo punish like that. I think. Or at least make enahcned iceball be a normal projectiel as far as speed.
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Unless you are Sonic Fox they don't give a s*** about what any of us say
Watched Sikanders recent live stream, they nerfed his teabaging by making sure it preforms a animality
BRO, Tom they even nerfed Sub Zero's Tbaggin' ability 🗿
Sonny 🗿🤙
Ninja 🤝🗿
What kind of secret handshake is this?
@@PiccoloNamexio don't worry about it piccolo
I’m gonna say it again no one is crying for a sub buff this video proves why he needs buffs. Every other character can do 8-12 hits for at least 30-40% dmg sub can do it but you have to enhance all the moves and even at that it takes 14-30 hits to even achieve that high % dmg
Tom is the best MK ranter and I'm all here for it.
Yea even if I don’t always agree, he’s so good at ranting and rallying people behind his arguments lol. Definitely agree with this video a lot.
Man sometimes I honestly believe they made Sub Zero 🚮 just to troll Sikander. He still kicks ssa with Sub Zero, but you can definitely tell it’s an uphill battle.😂💯
lol bro I’m starting to think the same thing.
100% facts cause he has a grandmasters skill lol
He can't even Teabag anyone with Sub-Zero because they made the Animality Input as ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️🤣
@@zCHAOSzWestUp 💀💀💀💀
@@zCHAOSzWestUpso fukn true
NRS has hated sub since mk9. Remember the main menu screen when you pressed start Scorpion x ray punched sub zero in the face knocking all his teeth out 😆
They really do they hate the grandmaster!
Followed by the first INJ game where as an intro you see Scorpion ready to punch (or maybe kiII too) SZ who is on his knees 🙄
Is like that mofo Ed Boon undercoverIy disIikes that S-Z has plenty of popularity too ..or at least he tries to make Scorpion as the 'better character'. 🙄
Every time it’s been a scorpion vs sub zero they always make scorpion win… like sub zero don’t get no love at all :/
When they show the trailers, it's always sub zero getting the fatality.
But it’s because Sub-Zero is a bad guy 🤷🏼♂️ not because they hate him. NRS hates all male ninjas and some more than others
Sub needs a damage buff. His damage scaling is ridiculous whereas other characters get away with the simplest, highest damage, easy af bullsh*t
Omni man ferra
He needs to be totally reworked
Very technical and fair requests, as a Sub Zero main (now trying to pick up Noob), I hope they listen 🙏 I was shocked when I found out that huge patch list had nothing for Sub Zero.
A.K.A. Proof that NRS hates MK.
I myself was genuinely surprised how fast they turned him to Noob, sheesh, not even one game
The best sub zero is the kameo. Atleast he gets buffs
The whole cast gets to play sub better than sub now
They will buff Sub Zero when Sikander stop playing
Crazy. Given the ridiculous amount of tools the DLC characters get. Giving extra moves or BnB combos to the whole base roster the way they blessed Reptile & Rain while back like all the Sub buffs Tom spoke of, Smoke getting his Smoke Bomb, etc. would've set everything right.
So basically they've added MK9 Cyrax to MK1 and thought it's a good idea? LOL
But MK9 Sub still on Lockdown
Let's hope NRS recovers from this woke brainrot phase before the company shuts down
@@arjunratnadevcrazy how you managed to make it about "woke" in a comment about MK9 Cyrax gameplay being put in MK1 lol
@@arjunratnadev Let's hope the phase of calling everything woke dies instead lmao
It is , it's just every one's power level is ass because they set the bar low
please keep posting because your like the only channel that truly shows how subzero is so nerfed.
NRS destroying Bi-Han's character again, this game is complete garbage
NRS BUFF SUB ZERO
Right on dude. I was thinking the same like Hello? NRS? Give sub less damage scaling on deadly vapors, give him a fast ice ball like cyrax, buff the enhanced clone and make his overhead faster and safe
I see that whole, "I'm moving on from MK" thing is going well for you Tom.
You keep at it, buddy. 🤣
I'm an old guy who played MK1 in the arcades. I can't undestand how NR could let either Scorpion, Sub-Zero or Liu Kang NOT be great in any MK, they are the OG poster boys.
What they need to do is make his ice ball faster! Also you should be able to combo strings into ice ball… make the ice clone better and longer.. give him a little more damage.. make his back 2 overhead faster on startup… if they do these subzero will be a solid character! What pisses me off about NRS is that they can make all these other characters broken and good and buff characters like Havik but they won’t do shit to that boy Subzero.. like nrs is buggin
EXACTLY!!!! EVERYTHING I SAID YOU SAID!!!
Its crazy they gave cyrax all of that with twice speed to foam freeze on top of it lasting longer and with no cool downs on it or on the ground bombs
It’s Ed boon (scorpion) VS John Tobias (Sub zero)
What happened to John tobias?
Been obvious for awhile just have to look at how hes treated in the lore and notice whenever they showcase a mk for the first time its usually him getting murdered.. grandmaster neans nothing to them and last time he was given any respect was mk9
Hell of you wanna get technical he also gets screwed when it comes to cosmetics cause in mkx he barely got as much as scorpion, still decent compared to the rest of the roster in number and quality but then with mk11 he gets alot less, practically no good kombat league skins and most are absolute dips in quality, especially when it came to colors
Not even in MK9. He was the punching bag in every merchandise by trailers and even a book end collectible. In MK11, they brought back past Scorpion that Sub-Zero beat 23 years ago to beat his ass and called him old. They don't want to give him any respect. lol
Power scaling hasn’t meant anything since mkx
@@hands-ongaming7180More like MK9...Stryker beat so many he shouldn't have been able to lol. Ermac should be GG, unfortunately I cast telekinesis, sit down scrub. Kintaro should also be GG, you can have this flame breath, too. Nightwolf is also GG. The guy was able to take Sindel with him.
Yeah that's what happens when Ed Boons favorite character is Scorpion
We subzero players have gone through so much we are now asking for things to just be less easy to die for.
Yeah, now with the game being the way it is I don’t see why we can’t get beta subzero back at the very least
It's that DLC character buff, gotta sell those characters. Then *poof* nerf as the new ones come out. lol
Sub, truly is the bastard step child of Ed Boon, must be John's favorite character I bet. lol
I mean, it was. John Tobias made MK Mythologies where Bi-Han beats Demi-Gods like Fujin, Scorpion (twice), Quan Chi, and Shinnok to an extent. Even in MK Armageddon, Kuai Liang can be seen as on par with Dark Raiden since he's the only one still standing against Taven.
Nowadays, Bi-Han or Kuai Liang can't catch a break. Not only did Sub-Zero have to keep taking L's in every advertisement in MK9, but they always write Kuai Liang an excuse to why he loses against Scorpion.
MK9 - Sub beats Scorpion because he knows he killed his brother unlike MK2.
MKX Comics - Sub held back and didn't want to fight Scorpion.
MKX - Sub didn't want to fight again since he wanted a truce, but he beat his student Takeda after Takeda already won a sparring session against Hanzo.
MK11 - Sub got old in like 3 years time (which is why Hanzo comment that Kuai Liang failed to hear his footsteps in time). They did this so the same Scorpion he fought like 23 years ago can beat his ass when he's already Grandmaster.
There's like a Civil War in the Writer's Room. I'm not even joking. When it comes to game balance, Sub has to be low tier because everyone hates Ice Clone.
@@sirnarwhal9911 Truly Cuck-Zero
rooflemonger was surprised sub didn’t get buffs this last patch. It’s not death to mk if sub gets adjusted.
Sorry Tom, but we all know that SubZero will stay nerfed until a certain someone no longer works at NRS anymore...
This video needs to be a viral.
13 years later and the ice klone still brings us tears of joy from Lord Brady
They still didn't fix ice clone for sub in the 90s skin
Sub Zero didn’t even get a damn frame change. It’s heart wrenching 😭 I honestly thought they would at least give him a decent projectile, like his ice axe, especially with how they haven’t give him shit, except a consistent ice clone. Same old shit with Khaos Reigns😅
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN, you just took the video right out of my computer!!!
I was about to make a Sub buff video with the following changes:
a.) 25-frame Ice Ball/EX Ice Ball like Tanya
b.) Remove gaps in 122 and 21
c.) Shorten Klone recovery to 25 frames like Cyrax bomb
I still might make that video, but you told the whole truth here!
If actions speak louder than words, they don't hate anyone more than their fans.
WHY is Cyrax a chick?
Beacuse NRS had to tick the DEI "check-boxes"
They went woke thats why
Because NRS went woke and have no respect for their characters
Why does it matter it’s a new era like get over it 😂 Shìt ain’t that deep
@@GLOCKCHESTER131 "New era" isn't an excuse. Notice how all the important/popular characters weren't genderbent. Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Liu Kang, Raiden, Kitana, Shang Tsung, Mileena, Sindel, Reptile, Johnny, Kung Lao, Kenshi; if any of those characters were genderbent there would be outrage.
Why would there be outrage? Because people actually love those characters and if you genderbend them they would NOT be the same character. MK would literally be a joke in the FG community (much more than it already is) if it genderbent its iconic characters. Good luck telling people "doesn't matter it's a new era" LOL
They hate kung Lao too
Man get out
Bro needed that nerf. All the brainless armored launchers 😂 now they will have to actually think .
they literally just buffed kung lao stop malding
Yeaaah I can tell you both don't understand my post.
Buff is crazy, nerfed his only good move, he has T. rex arms, projectiles are mid, his spin is mid at best as well, no combo routes or good meterless launchers, can barely whiff with his best buttons
Holy crap you actually mentioned my clone buff suggestion. Nice.
It was a great idea
@RealMKTomBrady I figured it was better than lowering the 3 clones like most wanted.
Unless sonic complains they won’t hear any complaints because they keep getting that money
Bro they did him dirty in the story mode expansion. AND Didn't buff him. What the actual F?
This what we call girlboss MarySue, aka Captain Carol
Oh we already know. Cuz half the roster that was already better than Sub got buffs while he got nothing. It's comedic, NRS is just trolling the Sub players at this point.
Capcom and SNK love all their core characters. … just saying.
Let Brady Cook! You're so right!
NRS needed somebody to replace Kotal Kahn now that he's been deleted from MK.
He was mentioned in the story mode. He hasn't been deleted.
Havik buffed sub zero because NRS doesn't want to 😢😢😢 as a sub zero main I don't really like mk1
I said this today on siks stream, cyrax is broken. Those bombs force you to block even when she doesn't hit confirm. Not to mention that fast foam ball
Literally labbed this day one, it’s kinda ashame like all they need to do is just buff the ice ball at minimum
Bring back Icetomb teleport!
EDIT: The comparison between Ice ball and Cyrax's projectile is just ridiculous. I don't know who in their right mind would look at this and say it's fine.
Good suggestions concerning the changes, although I'd say it wouldn't hurt anyone if Sub's Slide was considered as crouching state during the entire move.
At this point, Sub Zero is the kameo on your team. I guess this makes him the best kameo in the game.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 until the whole community decides to stop glazing and that this game is not ok nothing will change not sub sub zero not ferra not Johnny not Ed not James not Jake not Bobby not Mike nothing will change I def won’t be playing lol I knew the second I saw bumblebee the wakandan soldier what was going to happen lmfaooooo
I stopped and switched to Tekken 9, best decision EVER!
The new Characters are dope Colonizer pet 😆😆😆
When I saw that Khaos Reigns trailer, I immediately deleted MK1 from my ps5. Because I knew immediately where it was going story and gameplay wise…. Into 🚮
😂😂😂😂😂
That 95 movie skin is the most beautiful skin I've ever seen in a Mortal Kombat game.
UMK3 skins are better tbh.
I don't get why people like that looks tacky to me
@@asdfxcvbn746 I don't like how you can see Sub-Zero's neck in his UMK3 skin.
@@dreamcorridor u can change the mask to another one where his neck isn't visible if you don't like it.
@via_negativa6183 nostalgia mostly. Tbh mk11 winter undead samurai was one of my favorites(I don't remember the name of it)
Bro this mf is top tier if if it’s anyone nrs hates it’s geras
Make ex clone throwable that last a second longer,and burn through projectiles.
This game is whatever 16bit and sonic fox want so they can scream rainbow is the bestest EVAR!! Respect my pronouns !
He's really more like 8bit at this point, yeah?
@@intellectic9155 🤣🤣🤣
Facts Ninjakilla said that. They listen to what gay gayfox say!
@@mac7114 thanks I wasn’t aware of this
Keep “demanding” all you want 💀
They hate smoke to. He doesn't get his own chapter and he needs more smoke moves.
While I do think Sub-Zero definitely needs buffs in MK1, I don't think NRS hates Sub-Zero. His current state is likely a reaction to how broken he was in MK11
I really hope they don't nerf any of the new characters. It will be a terrible sign for the game if they do. They need to buff/change everyone else.
By that logic they also hate Raiden. In MK11 they gave him a two slot tele move that was worse than Cetrions base kit. And this game they give cyrax a better tele move than him as well. I like how strong Cyrax is, but it's annoying to see her get tools that other characters should be able to use as effectively based on their history. Sub ice ball shouldn't lose to booger bomb if cyrax gets all the setup option off it and sub gets very little. It also shouldn't outright be twice as good lmao
They need to raise the bar power level up for everyone
Bro, at least they didn't relegate your character to kameo only and unborn your other character like they did to me 😅
Strings definitely need buffs
Tom, Cyrax is pay to win 🤷🏼♂️ of course she will have advantage on everything
Tom, NRS doesn't hate Sub Zero! That's pretty ridiculous to say. NRS hates YOU, so they're just holding your character back as ultimate payback for going rogue 😂😂😂
It's not that they hate Sub. They just overtuned the absolute fck out of the Hoebots
Tom, after all this time MK1 is out it's pretty safe to say some characters are just not allowed to live. Why? Honestly, no one knows. The bottom 10 characters are ROUGH in this game. It's come to the point where we got to accept it and move on. Li Mei's also never going to get additional moves even though her gameplan is so dry. GG brother.
If character beatable, he s not broken, end question.
Right?!?! And scorpion’s spear doesn’t pull/combo without meter right?
They hate Reptile more than they hate anyone else! Sub-Zero just got a buff. They keep f****** with Reptile and nerfing him patch after patch after patch after patch after patch.
If cyrax is going to stay the same I think that’s fine. You just need to bring her damage down, that would even out her playstyle.
Am I crazy or wasn’t sub’s Freezing point string, supposed to be able to combo? I thought that was one of the changes coming to the game but I guess not.
If he could special cancel off the last hit it could give him new combo routes. I want to see characters elevated to the level of the new dlc characters.
Ed boon needs his spine "fixed"
Paulo Gracia balancing
Sub zero became the new Devorah
One thing that I don’t see enough from sub is using forward 1,2 in to armored clone in to the kung lao set up you could show a little tec with it Tom Brady
yes!! no more nerfs and buff Subzero please!!!!!!!i honestly wish they'd just remove the damn ex Klone and just make the Klone safer!!
How can netherrealm studios hate sub zero scorpion and sub zero is like the face of there game
Ed Boon don't want Sub-Zero to be good
The title is wrong, the correct would be: NRS HATES mortal kombat
Hope it helps
One thing that I don’t see enough from sub is using forward 1,2 in to armored clone in to the corner in to the kung lao set up you could show a little tec with it Tom Brady
The real reason is Sub-Zero is too popular, NRS don't want everybody to just play him all the time, that's my theory
Justice for Bi-Han
I hear ya but I think we have to acknowledge that cyrax trades strong specials for weak normals. She has no low combo starter and a very slow overhead (slower than sub).
I’m just saying, despite the bomb shenanigans, she has weaknesses. If you compare her strings to his it’s obvious that sub wins there.
They hate SZ, Kung Lao and they also hate brining a bit more FEMALE characters for the DLC stuff.
YEARS passed and we still not have AT LEAST ONE singIe female GUEST character. (even if the people or the fans already gave them plenty of examples for cool / bada$$ potential guest femaIe characters).
I honestly can't imagine any good female guest character, who is not DC. The choices are too limited imo.
Bayonetta, ( Dark ) Samus Aran, Orchid ( fuck it, Sadira ), Queen Myrrah,
@@Designation6 yeah, sure, now compare them to guests from kombat pack 2 (and kombat pack 1 too) in terms of how famous they are.
I mean most people have to google to find out who are the suggested characters, lol. I know Bayonetta, i kinda heard of Samus Aran (i am not nintendo player), but i had to google the rest.
Guests should be less niche and more recognizable, so more people want to pay.
@@Designation6 here is my list of female characters:
Trinity (The Matrix), Lara Croft, TX (or Sarah Connor), Furiosa (maybe). Bayonetta is cool choice too i guess.
Ofc there are so many good female characters in DC but leave them for Injustice.
they hate liu kang also I swear.
Why?
@@diomed2251 he has not had any update since release until now and all they did was give him the same animation move as (tail whip
@@jerrellsimmons144k6
This new move is -4 on block, which is fine. I guess you want a 10 frames mid which allows you to keep your turn (so plus on block?) You kinda want too much.
Also, they nerfed his db4, so it doesn't connect after 333 anymore. It isn't listed anywhere.
In any case Liu Kang is strong and balanced character, and imo he doesn't need big buffs (if at all). I would only make his fatal blow animation faster so it connects better.
@@diomed2251ending with flying kick or bicycle is still a viable option. Bicycle kick gives a bit less good of an Oki. And flying kick ender sets up zoning. Liu is fine. Use Farrah
Nothing is going to happen. This is the final version of sub zero. And that’s just how it is
It’s just never ending drama with this channel isn’t it?
He's just a boomer let him do his thing.
Tbh I wished they made everyone super strong like you said in your previous videos, I don’t understand why he’s so bad in this game.
They also nerfed Shao when his DF2 gets interrupted… now Reiko is the only one who doesn’t have scaling with his grab is interrupted…
Reminder they nerfed Mavado’s DMG twice before they buffed him ( -100HP to -50HP )
Sektor might be a better Anti-zoner than Omni-Man
Nrs obviously thinks that clone and dive kick already makes sub top tier and thats why they never buff him
it's not sub zero alone, they all hate most of the characters, except oddly the dlc, yes you have to sell the dlc
I am pretty sure ground freeze was -17 did they nerf that at some point?
Yeah it's still -17 If you do any normal reversal like a s1 is shows as 10f instead of 7f. Smokes frame data on his 212 string have a similar mistake.
They hate sub so much he got trash damage no new moves majority of the roster got new moves and buffs and he dies in the story turns noob saves the world and still gets locked up even after saving the world like wtf 😂
Great video and analysis
However sub needs some serious help though. I feel like I'm playing slower than the rest of the characters when playing sub zero. It's coming soon. They are going to give him some help. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
Can you make one for baraka all moves are unsafe his damage sucks
Poor Sub-Zero. ;-;
Dumb request but I wish ex slide had some pushback on block.
He was too good in MK11 so they're making him pay for it now
Any concerns on his current strings or Is his specials the main issue?