Fun fact, if you are marked for death by stalker, he will appear in the mission but if you or anyone in your squad is playing Jade the stalker will immediately disappear
The reach the surface cutscene is like the movie "children of men" where everyone stop shooting guns when they heard a baby cry for the first time in years
DE got me right in the feels with this one; there is no fury greater than that of a parent protecting their child. It's not just emotion, it's an instinct hardwired into the deepest, most primal part of our nature.
Imagine the Orokin knew this and decided to weaponize pregnant women and married fathers knowing they'd give birth to beings they could weaponize for war. If Stalker is any indication, they would have been unstoppable.
All this time we asked, “Where is the Stalker?”. But we never asked “How is the Stalker?”. Seriously I knew there was something tragic behind the stalker, but THIS… was so unexpected.
The Corpus are human, slaves to the Orokin and probably knew what it was like to be a child after the old war so maybe that's why Xeto stopped. I wonder what Parvos would have done? Also, imagine if the Grineer got there? I would never see the Grineer stopping.
Parvos would've kept firing or took the kid.... xeto still has a soul or lack there of. But it does show the corpus for once put money aside and did something honorable. And not get in the stalker's way
@@MrSomaArikadoParvos would not have kept firing. He's a cruel man, morally ambiguous and driven by greed, but unlike say Nef...he's not evil. Or rather not cartoonishly evil.
So ballas crimes against life made the most unexpected miracle to happen....life from a warframe wow this changes some things and stalker now is a father of the miracle too...... d a m n
I know right, I never expected this to happen to a Warfram but then again, Jade was already pregnant before she became a Warframe. Life always finds a way.
@@sombra9787Sick people don't need reasons, you see how some sexualize feet...feet dude! Some may say it was a "writting in the wall", an " very unecessary" risk the creative team have gone in this direction but c'mon man...being fair, if the quest was just about a rock weirdos were still found a way to fetish it. I detest this part of the community but I still found the quest outstanding. It truly gives more questions than answers.
True, but you'll need to have Steel Path unlocked to access such missions. Alternatively, Stalker is an potential frame option in The Circuit if you've unlocked rank 10 of the "Opportunity" Intrinsics in Duviri.
8 year retired player here (2014-2022) there never was any lore for him before the second dream quest outside of the "some of walked these desolate halls" codex entry
So did the tenno used transference to jade to help her deliver the baby? Did we give birth as a warframe? Did we experience childbirth with transferance?
An old father, one who lost their love, their children, to an old war of chaos, fighting against children of dark, devilish powers, a war ended by defeat, and betrayal by those children in response to one person's death for caring. Old tragedies and old grudges, held long since past, smouldering from old fires, still burning with fury. A new war, ending a legacy, saving a life thought lost, revealing a new threat. But a tragedy in the shadows was building, fading away in darkness, seen only by hatred and despair. One father watched another lose himself, wallowing in despair. And he pushed. The father of many regrets and tragedies pushed the father of despair and hatred to seek aid in that which he hates. That which knows a way to save. Too late to save a life - soon enough to bring new life. Life born into a world knowing only survival. A world torn apart by loyalty, greed, pride. Conflict. The father would protect that life. Give his own to save it. And the life would cry. The world would hear. And it would hold its breath. The drums of war turned silent. For a moment, a life was given solace. One moment of mercy, one moment of peace. From a raining, watery world, life would fly away, safe. The father of regrets would reach out, to say one thing; the pain has been taken away. A tragedy, inadvertently caused by old wounds, averted by healing ages. A chance, a moment, as the world watched, life would let life live on. One tragedy passed by, as another conflict in a world beset by conflict looms. For now, Life would live.
After this happens, Stalker still shows up to hunt down Tenno's Warframe for helping him :( However, when he sees Tenno piloting Warframe Jade, he gives up the fight and disappears.
Ok, in a couple of years I expect a Warframe called Sirius with the powers of the Stalker mixed with Jade's. And maybe a passive that randomly summons papa to help out.
Warframes feed on void energy as a result of the tenno but due to the fact Jade doesn’t have one her own will. Meaning the child was draining the mother’s energy and jade knew that and allowed it knowing her life would fade. Emotions are apparently what keeps the sentient part of the person thinking for themselves.
I like the scene on the surface where they stop firing once they hear the baby crying. It shows some of the Corpus actually have some kind of moral compass. Yes, they are enemies to warframes and Tenno, but they wouldn't hurt an innocent newborn. Nef Anyo could take some lessons from Parvos's Corpus before cutting the legs and arms from Solaris.
I mean it's a green orb...she has green orbs in her flying guys and in the signa too. I know it's a "disguise" as a motiff but since this is the presentation DE went, to me it's more like the baby was constructed from the orb (some genetic information her warframed stored from the baby through or after the "warframization" or something like this idk...)than the orb being the baby itself.
Warframes can get pregnant. But the conception of life is equal to a cloning vat. However, it has more "Emotion" in it. Its how Sorren and Jade lived... and loved. I can go all science here on the concept, but let's just enjoy that Sorren is a father, and we don't have to fight him anymore. (Though, I would like another Hatred in my arsenal)
If you're Outversal regular bullets wouldn't be hurting you, baby or not. No excuses 😏 anyway nice to have clear evidence Warframe isn't outversal/hyperversal or even universal.
@@Cyberbro665 dude, whoever said that just forgot that YOU CAN DIE IN GAME TO BULLETS, not even energy plasma bullshit just regular bullets, if you wait long enough
@@marcelocampos7447 bruh so many people in vs wiki and other sci Fi debates have members of the Warframe community unironically say that Warframes have universe and above ending/shaping powers. (Like instantly destroy a universe by waving a hand) It's ridiculous 😂 they also call you an idiot that doesn't know the lore if you point out bullets hurt them they go on with "shield gating is canon so they're impossible to kill" Yet no shield gating here, I think they mix game mechanics with fanfiction or something I swear.
So far, this is what I've learnt: Warframes are biologially based, at least on a nervous system level. Infestation provides another biological component. Remember when Ballas tortured the Dax soldier and infested him with Helminth? The Dax soldier mutated into Excalibur Umbra, a self-sentient, autonomous warframe that doesn't need an operator to fully move. What I see here is that both Jade and Sorren were full biological humans and were turned into warframe and stalker, respectively. Jade was already pregnant when that happened, and the child she was bearing was mutated too, on an embryonic level. Stalker keeping his love for her and his child is an irrefutable fact that they keep their humanity even when they mutate and transform into warframes.
@@demonhunterx7094 And for the frames that don’t make sense the revenant prime trailer tells us they are a product of eternalism through ballas’s words
Instead of Ballas you get Stalker "If you insist on wearing her visage... Adorne her correctly...gold, worthy of her beauty... crimson, her wrath... may the universe learn her name... my Jade."
I mean, i kinda synpathised with stalker a little bit during this mission. But considering either he or his acolytes keep showing up and i clown on them everytime, kinda seems a little bit of a pointless campaign. Hopefully they wont make us wait too long until they expand on it more.
@@SalmonBucketno, the warframe was the stalkers wife and she used to be human. Ballas and the orokin turned her into a warframe and she was pregnant when they did this. So when jade was turned into a warframe, the unborn child was transformed as well and became a part of jade's warframe body.
Well in a sense Warframes are KINDA human. This proves that they can reproduce. But it's takes a turn in the aspect of the Valkyries. They die after child birth. That's my theory anyway.
@punkghostsamurai They can't exactly reproduce after becoming warframes. If impregnated before becoming a Helminth victim, then yes, we now know they'll eventually give birth centuries later and it'll drain the mother of her powers and life force. But warframe on warframe can't be done since they ain't got genitals
@@punkghostsamurai Not sure if they can "reproduce" since she was already pregnant before becoming a warframe. What all of this implies is that if someone is turned a warframe while pregnant, it can STILL give birth. Doesn't mean that they can reproduce as a warframe.
@@user-iy2lc5xr1m you might be right about that. I may have to replay some quests to remember HOW people are turned into Warframes. If my memory is correct it's through infestation therapy. So that means in order for her to remain with the stalker after taking some type of serious hit. She was infected and slowly turned into a warframe but unbeknownst to Sorren she was pregnant. What makes it worse is PROBABLY the baby was draining her lifeforce and she let it so the baby can survive.
What I think is interesting is that this baby warframe is alive. Clearly no tenno is controling him, so it has it's own mind, brain and stuff. Pretty similiar to Umbra who also did not need a tenno to roam freely, the differance is that Umbra was made, Sirius/Orion was born. Really interesting turn of events, considering it's a main story quest there's a lot more to come.
And Umbra like Stalker and Jade is essentially also a ghost in their own machine body. So if anything Sirius/Orion are VERY much different, maybe the Warframes will develop into a new species and break free of having to be eternal mindless soldiers?
warframes CAN live without Tenno controlling them,problem is that due to how most warframes were made,they are constantly in pain,rage and in general suffering.Tenno can calm them down,like we do with Umbra.This child is not mortal turned warframe,thus they are not in pain
Poor hunhow, the great and terrible Hunhow, all alone now in his private expensive underwater bunker since his adopted edgy son and daughter in law started a family and left the household. At least lotus calls him from time to time.
To be honest I think Hunhow has gotten used to us. He even placed his hatred of tenno on the side twice for the New War and this quest when he told Stalker the only help was from the Tenno. And even gave us the blueprint to Jade. I do wish for Hunhow to come around to us and maybe even ring us up
He sounds so sad. He was created to terraform, nurse life, but now, he is the destroyer of worlds. And because of the void jump, he cannot generate inteligent offspring
I’m not a father but I do have a baby sister who just hit 1. It’s her, my mom and I since the dad moved out of state. So this quest sure got me in the heart like one of Styanax’s many spears.
In a retroactive way....this recontextualizes the Stalkers actions during the second dream. He might not have understood why he stayed his hand when it was revealed the Tenno are but children. Hunhow may have goaded him. But deep down it was his instincts telling him to protect a child...
Yeah, and the second the Warframe moves in the last part of The Second Dream, he gladly diverts his attention. He was still conflicted to even hurt us.
DAMN that does work too well. Considering the fact both were transformed and he had his memories warped you think the feelings might be more out of guilt or grief because he never knew what happened to her or their unborn child but then not remembering why he felt so strongly about it?
His reason for hating the tenno can also be to the fact that he most likely did not know how the warframe project worked most likely blaming the tenno themselves instead of the orokin and due to his loyalty to them assumed the tenno were the cause of jade being turned into a warframe
To be more clear: Can Warframes get pregnant? No. Can Warframes BE pregnant? Yes. She was turned into Waframe while carrying a child. How cruel is that?
Can we give more respect to that Corpus Officer. She literally gave up the biggest payday of her life and her one shot into the Sister's of Parvos simply because there was a line she would not cross and that baby was the line she refused to cross.
A little Miracle has been born into the New Origin System. Even a member of the Sisters of Parvos knew what this meant, and allowed the freedom of this miracle child, born of the suffering of a mother and father, turned into weapons of war. With this said, we also know something else. Not ALL Warframes are controlled by Tenno. Umbra was considered the exception to that until now. Some retain their memories of their life before they became what should have been husks. And Sorren and Jade, bless their hearts, made it this long together…may she rest in peace, and the Stalker, now a father to Sirius/Orion, be left alone to raise the child that was not given the chance to be born all those eons ago.
Just a clarification, Captain Xeto is not a Sister of Parvos, she is a candidate to become one and the last part of the quest was her trial. If she was a Sister she probably wouldn't have given up the baby since they are ruthlessly loyal to Parvos it seems, I think she took the decision to let the Stalker go because there was no consequences to her except not being able to become a Sister of Parvos in the future as she lost her chance.
@@jacobosaldarriaga4820That only makes it even more poignant, the Corpus worship nothing but the very concept of greed, they’re not above committing atrocious and despicable acts in the name of profit, so for her to turn down THE most important promotion of her whole life, most likely losing such chance forever, in favor of letting an innocent life live is, the ultimate proof of her compassion, winning over her desire for greed, her own zealous religion.
@@orochinagislazy and also like Hilariously cruel At least this clarifies why the stalker hates the tenno now Not because he wants to avenge the orokin, but because the tenno got their revenge just before he could
@Arkaeus04 I'm more terrified by the fact that he got onto the lander in the first place and completely undetected to boot. Awake or not, that is not a dude I want to be in a confined space with.
Killing a Tenno is way different to killing a Warframe. Definitely very concerning he can just show up at any time lol, but it's more so a danger to our arsenal than us.
@@jasonkruger4867 emotional?? Shiiiiiit. I cried when I found out Stalker is a parent. Only thing that made me stop crying is when the Stalker jumped me in a mission. I killed him. But he jumped me nonetheless.
@jasonkruger4867 its an actual thing in game. Friend and I tested it using my last two beacons. He sees Jade, he straight up says "*Never*." and leaves.
It's strange for them to just let him go, the captain was looking for a Warframe as a prize instead she finds an old Hunter of tenno carrying something impossible to exist, a child born Warframe, not built or changed from infestation, but something new and born, And yet the captain and her troops just let him go.. I guess not every corpus is as cruel as they're made out to be, for this one didn't see a prize to bring to Parvos to become a sister, she saw a child born from a mother of jaded light, and a father of the darkest shadow.
In the moment it works, because the trope of "sworn enemy has a moment of humanity in the face of something unexpected and stands aside to let their quarry dramatically walk past" is a pretty good one, and this is a decent execution of it. But given her characterization up to this point (belittling her underlings, seeing the situation as an opportunity, et cetera), it doesn't actually make sense upon further thought that she'd let them go. If anything, she'd be even more hell-bent on capturing them both after witnessing something that should be impossible. Her call to stop firing would only be out of fear of destroying it by accident, not out of compassion.
@@Biscotum maybe not, these corpus clearly follow the example of parvos and call me crazy but i don't think parvos would condone putting a child in danger for profit, if anything this shows that even the corpus have lines they don't cross unlike the orokin. obviously nef anyo would see the opportunity and not give a damn about moral's but this captain seems to be different, even if she also abuses those under her.
@@ALUCARD-us3il He definetly has more idealistic views, but Parvos has still done some petty and messed up things. Safe to say he would´nt disagree with Xeto´s decisition, but since so few people see Warframes as human he would´ve preferred for Xeto to keep firing.
Have we ever considered the fact as to how warframes are made... Ballas was truly a sick fuck to turn a pregnant woman into a warframe _(which due procedure is quite agonizing from what we've seen in The Sacrifice)_
Probably wouldn’t change anything. If you do run Jade and Stalker attempts to spawn, he’ll say “Never” and simply leave his drops rather than fighting.
Not the first time that a new quest isn't replayable. I think it's because of an issue such as getting the ending rewards again for redoing the quest. Not sure why this isn't a thing from the beginning but it'll be replayable in a future update
@@SuperLuigi1025 Also new interactions Operator: Excalibur umbra lifts you up and places you on the warframe shoulder, a dad and teenage son/daughter Drifter: fist bumps and a high five
I want to believe so but the fact that you get to choose the name makes me wonder how one is gonna market it. In Genshin Impsct, for a certain character you are able to choose their name, so its highly likely that Sirius/Orion will go by a different default name in the future or we just won't play as them at all.
That final decision with the colours, I take it to mean that green is what Jade would've named him and red is what the Stalker would've named him. Given the events, I figured it was thematically fitting to go with green.
Y’know I wonder if the kid will ever come back and us naming the kid is just a poll on what their name will be if the the baby Warframe returns as an adult Warframe
Oh just had a great idea....the child is a warframe Sirius/Orion will properly be the next frame so what if you have them and at a random time on a mission Stalker would randomly show up and maybe revive you and maybe there is a higher chance he show up if you are playing on a solo mission as Sirius/Orion.
People stating correctly that Jade was pregnant before becoming warframe. This does not mean warframes cannot reproduce. Because now sirius/orion exist and through them the implication is they can now.
Fun fact, if you are marked for death by stalker, he will appear in the mission but if you or anyone in your squad is playing Jade the stalker will immediately disappear
Ain't no way wtf
@@Justin-ko1htyea he says “never” and disappears
@@gioochi506HOLY SHIT HE DID. This is so attentive of DE to put these simple pieces of lore in actual gameplay.
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THATS why that happened. Thanks.
The reach the surface cutscene is like the movie "children of men" where everyone stop shooting guns when they heard a baby cry for the first time in years
Immediately thought of children of men too
it reminds me also of Arkham City iirc where Batman comes out and holds Joker like that and everyone makes way/stares
It's a powerful cutscene. I don't cry at really anything but that brings tears every time
ya but what is the in universe explanation for that the corpus exploit children all the dam time why is this different
the part before they stop shooting and you havr to escape reminds me of the mandalorian
DE got me right in the feels with this one; there is no fury greater than that of a parent protecting their child. It's not just emotion, it's an instinct hardwired into the deepest, most primal part of our nature.
A parents Love for their child is an indomitable force that is very strong and not easily broken.
Imagine the Orokin knew this and decided to weaponize pregnant women and married fathers knowing they'd give birth to beings they could weaponize for war. If Stalker is any indication, they would have been unstoppable.
@@eiohnanananunu9871 if that’s the case then that’s fits perfectly into just what the orokin were like as people.
emotional much
@@sinu9226 Fatherless behavior 😏
All this time we asked, “Where is the Stalker?”. But we never asked “How is the Stalker?”.
Seriously I knew there was something tragic behind the stalker, but THIS… was so unexpected.
I'll do you one better. WHY is the Stalker?
@@numbjuhnu is the best question ever!
@@numbjuhnu I think we know Why is the stalker already: he's doing the vergil strategy of avoiding child support payments, and failed.
Stalker is now going through his father phase development arc now.
i ain't ready of stalker dad jokes
@@stephenmanih1090 Considering the voice actor is Gianni, Prepare the memes!
Time for stalker to be seen with cargo shorts and white Nike shoes mowing the lawn
What? he is?!@@binghalim1852
@@binghalim1852what happened to the old one then?
I still remember the Dev stream where Steve said "someone in chat is asking if warframes can get pregnant", i guess now we have an answer.
Exactly 😂
Right I remembered that and was so shocked
Well, i dont think frames can, jade is probably an exception because she was pregnant before she was turned into a warframe.
I... Do not think they can.
From the Flashbacks, it was like Jade was pregnant before becoming Warframe.
Which carried with her to new body.
@@cherandshane2683True
The Corpus are human, slaves to the Orokin and probably knew what it was like to be a child after the old war so maybe that's why Xeto stopped. I wonder what Parvos would have done?
Also, imagine if the Grineer got there? I would never see the Grineer stopping.
Parvos would've kept firing or took the kid.... xeto still has a soul or lack there of. But it does show the corpus for once put money aside and did something honorable. And not get in the stalker's way
@@MrSomaArikado Parvos probably thought slavery ain’t broke 💀
Grineer would have shot holes into that baby, even if the queens wanted it
Hits hard knowing the corpus women cant get pregnant so easily and most of them are born in vitro
The grinner wont stop firing sadly
@@MrSomaArikadoParvos would not have kept firing. He's a cruel man, morally ambiguous and driven by greed, but unlike say Nef...he's not evil. Or rather not cartoonishly evil.
So ballas crimes against life made the most unexpected miracle to happen....life from a warframe wow this changes some things and stalker now is a father of the miracle too...... d a m n
I know right, I never expected this to happen to a Warfram but then again, Jade was already pregnant before she became a Warframe.
Life always finds a way.
"But all miracles require sacrifice."
@@countlazuli8753
"And we use the sacrifice to fuel our memory, to find peace, to bring wrath, and to move beyond it's reach"
Babyframe is so adorable. To bad we can't have that baby on our orbiter crawling to us making happy sounds.❤
That sounds like a pet😅
Dog I never thought that a warframe getting PREGNANT is canonically true in the warframe universe
Rule34 artists are gonna have a FIELD DAY with this
Nah nah she was pregnant BEFORE, so yknow ballas or whoever framafied her saw the baby and was like "yeah that can stay"
I still remember last dev shorts when steve reads the chat asking "does warframe get pregnant".
Rule34💀 shit bro with how sick they are and now that they know Warframes can have children
@@sombra9787Sick people don't need reasons, you see how some sexualize feet...feet dude! Some may say it was a "writting in the wall", an " very unecessary" risk the creative team have gone in this direction but c'mon man...being fair, if the quest was just about a rock weirdos were still found a way to fetish it. I detest this part of the community but I still found the quest outstanding. It truly gives more questions than answers.
@@sombra9787the meme was enough, they didn't need the lore.
This quest made me cry.
You can play as him if you visit ordis in the relay
True, but you'll need to have Steel Path unlocked to access such missions.
Alternatively, Stalker is an potential frame option in The Circuit if you've unlocked rank 10 of the "Opportunity" Intrinsics in Duviri.
Now this makes me feel bad for the Stalker cause i didnt know much lore on him until now.
I don't think anybody did for a while.
8 year retired player here (2014-2022) there never was any lore for him before the second dream quest outside of the "some of walked these desolate halls" codex entry
Well Now we know and i bet some of us felt a lil guilty bullying him whenever we encounter him.
This is literally 10x more lore than we have had in him at any point.
@joshuaarnett762 We know his true name is Sorren now, at least that's who he was before he got warframified.
The "warframe since birth" is the hot topic but I'm wondering how Jade relates to the Orokin Jade Light, they developed the technology after her?
According to Parvos during the ascension missions, Jade herself IS the Jade Light, "The Executioner" "The Boogeywoman".
So u telling me Margulis was executed by a warframe. And Ballas made it so….. Excuse me I think he needs another chat
@@xavierchew9949 Ballas in that moment regretted making her, lmfao
@@xavierchew9949a Warframe, not a Tenno. Though we do have a memory of Jade interacting with an operator, and she goes full mom mode.
@@joshuaarnett762 I’m sorry, are we defending the blue narmer man?
The first MILF Warframe.
And stalker is the first DILF warframe.
@@jacoryarnett7347umbra came first
@@jacoryarnett7347 nah Umbra is the og dilf
Why did I continue to read this comment chain 😭
Anyone else feel like Hunhow acts like the Stalker's mentor? Coaching him and guiding him the best he can?
So did the tenno used transference to jade to help her deliver the baby? Did we give birth as a warframe? Did we experience childbirth with transferance?
Captain Xeto... joins my Warframe fav. NPC list.
16:15 *Was a "WTF just happened" moment for half of the community* (including myself)
Thank you very much for this! It’s so great and I appreciate the effort. Still going through this even second time makes me cry :,)
Funny this came out right after fathers day
Man I love that opening shot.
I assume it happened right as the fall was occurring
They did it. They really put a fanfic in warframe.
An old father, one who lost their love, their children, to an old war of chaos, fighting against children of dark, devilish powers, a war ended by defeat, and betrayal by those children in response to one person's death for caring. Old tragedies and old grudges, held long since past, smouldering from old fires, still burning with fury. A new war, ending a legacy, saving a life thought lost, revealing a new threat. But a tragedy in the shadows was building, fading away in darkness, seen only by hatred and despair. One father watched another lose himself, wallowing in despair.
And he pushed.
The father of many regrets and tragedies pushed the father of despair and hatred to seek aid in that which he hates. That which knows a way to save. Too late to save a life - soon enough to bring new life. Life born into a world knowing only survival. A world torn apart by loyalty, greed, pride. Conflict. The father would protect that life. Give his own to save it. And the life would cry. The world would hear. And it would hold its breath. The drums of war turned silent. For a moment, a life was given solace. One moment of mercy, one moment of peace. From a raining, watery world, life would fly away, safe. The father of regrets would reach out, to say one thing; the pain has been taken away.
A tragedy, inadvertently caused by old wounds, averted by healing ages. A chance, a moment, as the world watched, life would let life live on. One tragedy passed by, as another conflict in a world beset by conflict looms. For now, Life would live.
This fucking game, i played it once and it somehow sends a emotional curveball at me...
Wow they really pulled Toji Fushiguro
20:00 This similar to Children of Men (2006)
After this happens, Stalker still shows up to hunt down Tenno's Warframe for helping him :(
However, when he sees Tenno piloting Warframe Jade, he gives up the fight and disappears.
he still hates the tenno, but he's willing to work with them if its in his best interests to do so
Life always find its way...
Ok, in a couple of years I expect a Warframe called Sirius with the powers of the Stalker mixed with Jade's. And maybe a passive that randomly summons papa to help out.
So the baby was absorbing the mother's energy?
Warframes feed on void energy as a result of the tenno but due to the fact Jade doesn’t have one her own will. Meaning the child was draining the mother’s energy and jade knew that and allowed it knowing her life would fade. Emotions are apparently what keeps the sentient part of the person thinking for themselves.
I like the scene on the surface where they stop firing once they hear the baby crying. It shows some of the Corpus actually have some kind of moral compass. Yes, they are enemies to warframes and Tenno, but they wouldn't hurt an innocent newborn.
Nef Anyo could take some lessons from Parvos's Corpus before cutting the legs and arms from Solaris.
She's still pregnant when you get her
I mean it's a green orb...she has green orbs in her flying guys and in the signa too. I know it's a "disguise" as a motiff but since this is the presentation DE went, to me it's more like the baby was constructed from the orb (some genetic information her warframed stored from the baby through or after the "warframization" or something like this idk...)than the orb being the baby itself.
@@ML7WL She steven universed herself
This plot is... Incredibly breathtaking, and definitely caught me off guard.
Damn man that was actually beautiful
Warframes can get pregnant. But the conception of life is equal to a cloning vat. However, it has more "Emotion" in it.
Its how Sorren and Jade lived... and loved.
I can go all science here on the concept, but let's just enjoy that Sorren is a father, and we don't have to fight him anymore. (Though, I would like another Hatred in my arsenal)
The grineer wouldn't have let him leave
Damn we got Quick time events for contractions 😂
Here's to hoping for hunhow, our gradfather to be able to give stalker the hawk tuah
Shadow grunts at 18:58
Dad protects. Always. As it should be.
10:30 is just gold :v i know they write this story this way but helminth felt like useless decoration... Being the oficcial "nurse" of the Warframes
I wonder how DE will release the prime version of jade.....
Simple they don't
So much for all those vs shorts about the Tenno being Outerveral when all it takes is a firing squad and minigun to beat the guy that kills Warframes.
He had a baby tho :( when our warframe held us in their arms they couldn't do jackshit as well lol
Yeah... i dont think most of the nuke ability is safe when you are holding a kid right there. Actually pretty sure none are.
If you're Outversal regular bullets wouldn't be hurting you, baby or not. No excuses 😏 anyway nice to have clear evidence Warframe isn't outversal/hyperversal or even universal.
@@Cyberbro665 dude, whoever said that just forgot that YOU CAN DIE IN GAME TO BULLETS, not even energy plasma bullshit just regular bullets, if you wait long enough
@@marcelocampos7447 bruh so many people in vs wiki and other sci Fi debates have members of the Warframe community unironically say that Warframes have universe and above ending/shaping powers. (Like instantly destroy a universe by waving a hand)
It's ridiculous 😂 they also call you an idiot that doesn't know the lore if you point out bullets hurt them they go on with "shield gating is canon so they're impossible to kill"
Yet no shield gating here, I think they mix game mechanics with fanfiction or something I swear.
Why so Sirius???
If i had a penny for every tragic dad character i'd have 2 pennies. Which isn't a lot but it's funny how it happened twice
So far, this is what I've learnt: Warframes are biologially based, at least on a nervous system level. Infestation provides another biological component. Remember when Ballas tortured the Dax soldier and infested him with Helminth? The Dax soldier mutated into Excalibur Umbra, a self-sentient, autonomous warframe that doesn't need an operator to fully move.
What I see here is that both Jade and Sorren were full biological humans and were turned into warframe and stalker, respectively. Jade was already pregnant when that happened, and the child she was bearing was mutated too, on an embryonic level. Stalker keeping his love for her and his child is an irrefutable fact that they keep their humanity even when they mutate and transform into warframes.
Yall remember the time where one comment asked if warframes could get pregnant…
I wonder what happens if you succeed in hitting all of the dots in 15:02
Problem is when she gets a prime version...
Pretty sure the explanation for prime frames from quests is just eternalism
Primes aren't the first version, they're the pinnacle form of the Warframe.
@@demonhunterx7094 It’s stated by varzia in game that some warframes are built as primes and that others had to earn it
@@demonhunterx7094 And for the frames that don’t make sense the revenant prime trailer tells us they are a product of eternalism through ballas’s words
Instead of Ballas you get Stalker
"If you insist on wearing her visage... Adorne her correctly...gold, worthy of her beauty... crimson, her wrath... may the universe learn her name... my Jade."
Papa Wolf
I mean, i kinda synpathised with stalker a little bit during this mission. But considering either he or his acolytes keep showing up and i clown on them everytime, kinda seems a little bit of a pointless campaign. Hopefully they wont make us wait too long until they expand on it more.
ngl i do want to see what the origin stories of the acolytes are
lmfao
Y así, la violencia, el odio, la irá y el coraje, despejaron el camino para dar paso a la razón y la conciencia: 20:10
the fact ordis suspects Umbra means our man is free actually to walk around the orbiter
He was probably in the other room doing umbra things
I also like the chastising tone with Helminth, implying that it in particular likes to fuck with Ordis when nobody else is around.
kinda wish there was an umbra vs stalker fight , albeit stalker would likely have his ass handed to him but it'd be cool
i feel Stalker and Umbra would be even in a head on fight. but yeah Umbras ferocity would overwhelm stalker entirely
@@majinalastor5740 Now that's a fight I wanna see.
"She's getting weaker, something is draining her"
Me: No they wouldn't.
"shows container/pregnant belly on a warframe.
Me: You are kidding me!
an april fools joke of a quest.
Well Steve realy want his own God Of War father and son
Just asking, is the techno controlling that Warframe and give birth?
@@SalmonBucketno, the warframe was the stalkers wife and she used to be human. Ballas and the orokin turned her into a warframe and she was pregnant when they did this. So when jade was turned into a warframe, the unborn child was transformed as well and became a part of jade's warframe body.
The first warframe has been truly born.
For war or peace. Time will tell.
Woahhh wait bro actually cooking
Well in a sense Warframes are KINDA human. This proves that they can reproduce. But it's takes a turn in the aspect of the Valkyries. They die after child birth. That's my theory anyway.
@punkghostsamurai They can't exactly reproduce after becoming warframes. If impregnated before becoming a Helminth victim, then yes, we now know they'll eventually give birth centuries later and it'll drain the mother of her powers and life force. But warframe on warframe can't be done since they ain't got genitals
@@punkghostsamurai Not sure if they can "reproduce" since she was already pregnant before becoming a warframe. What all of this implies is that if someone is turned a warframe while pregnant, it can STILL give birth. Doesn't mean that they can reproduce as a warframe.
@@user-iy2lc5xr1m you might be right about that. I may have to replay some quests to remember HOW people are turned into Warframes. If my memory is correct it's through infestation therapy. So that means in order for her to remain with the stalker after taking some type of serious hit. She was infected and slowly turned into a warframe but unbeknownst to Sorren she was pregnant. What makes it worse is PROBABLY the baby was draining her lifeforce and she let it so the baby can survive.
A warframe having a child and Stalker being the baby daddy was not on my bingo card
The dude who thought "yooo lets make a pregnant frame" probably got a raise, and then someone really thought "and make the stalker the dad lol"
What I think is interesting is that this baby warframe is alive. Clearly no tenno is controling him, so it has it's own mind, brain and stuff. Pretty similiar to Umbra who also did not need a tenno to roam freely, the differance is that Umbra was made, Sirius/Orion was born. Really interesting turn of events, considering it's a main story quest there's a lot more to come.
And Umbra like Stalker and Jade is essentially also a ghost in their own machine body.
So if anything Sirius/Orion are VERY much different, maybe the Warframes will develop into a new species and break free of having to be eternal mindless soldiers?
That's a new species. A perfect mix or organic and inorganic being something far different than a warframe.
warframes CAN live without Tenno controlling them,problem is that due to how most warframes were made,they are constantly in pain,rage and in general suffering.Tenno can calm them down,like we do with Umbra.This child is not mortal turned warframe,thus they are not in pain
Poor hunhow, the great and terrible Hunhow, all alone now in his private expensive underwater bunker since his adopted edgy son and daughter in law started a family and left the household.
At least lotus calls him from time to time.
But now his grandkids visit as well at least I hope they do.
We visit it him time To time Too he is our grandpa too
To be honest I think Hunhow has gotten used to us. He even placed his hatred of tenno on the side twice for the New War and this quest when he told Stalker the only help was from the Tenno. And even gave us the blueprint to Jade. I do wish for Hunhow to come around to us and maybe even ring us up
What laying locked down on the bottom of the ocean does to a mf:
He sounds so sad. He was created to terraform, nurse life, but now, he is the destroyer of worlds. And because of the void jump, he cannot generate inteligent offspring
Admit it, who else cried in the middle of the quest. It is a tragic love story and the ending as well.
I’m not a father but I do have a baby sister who just hit 1. It’s her, my mom and I since the dad moved out of state.
So this quest sure got me in the heart like one of Styanax’s many spears.
Damn it did
I mean... I liked the quest but I was on the verge of laughter when I got to the birthing minigame.
I was crying from that baby name
I burst into tears when the quest completion screen appeared. It was a breaking point for me
In a retroactive way....this recontextualizes the Stalkers actions during the second dream.
He might not have understood why he stayed his hand when it was revealed the Tenno are but children. Hunhow may have goaded him. But deep down it was his instincts telling him to protect a child...
Yeah, and the second the Warframe moves in the last part of The Second Dream, he gladly diverts his attention. He was still conflicted to even hurt us.
DAMN that does work too well.
Considering the fact both were transformed and he had his memories warped you think the feelings might be more out of guilt or grief because he never knew what happened to her or their unborn child but then not remembering why he felt so strongly about it?
His reason for hating the tenno can also be to the fact that he most likely did not know how the warframe project worked most likely blaming the tenno themselves instead of the orokin and due to his loyalty to them assumed the tenno were the cause of jade being turned into a warframe
Steve Sinclair once read: "Can Warframe's get pregnant?"
Here is the answer
I can't believe his statement has come to haunt us years later.
@@Milliondollarcup it hasn't been a year. Only a few months. But you're right
Well, technically she was pregnant before becoming a Warframe, so...yes and no?
To be more clear:
Can Warframes get pregnant? No.
Can Warframes BE pregnant? Yes.
She was turned into Waframe while carrying a child. How cruel is that?
@@numbjuhnu Orokin were sadistic and cruel bastards
Can we give more respect to that Corpus Officer. She literally gave up the biggest payday of her life and her one shot into the Sister's of Parvos simply because there was a line she would not cross and that baby was the line she refused to cross.
payday? her being merciful may have costed that officer her life, the corpus arent exactly known for being compassionate outside of this one officer
A little Miracle has been born into the New Origin System. Even a member of the Sisters of Parvos knew what this meant, and allowed the freedom of this miracle child, born of the suffering of a mother and father, turned into weapons of war.
With this said, we also know something else.
Not ALL Warframes are controlled by Tenno. Umbra was considered the exception to that until now. Some retain their memories of their life before they became what should have been husks. And Sorren and Jade, bless their hearts, made it this long together…may she rest in peace, and the Stalker, now a father to Sirius/Orion, be left alone to raise the child that was not given the chance to be born all those eons ago.
With the amount of necromancy at our disposal and given that she is "still here" DE, let us reunite these two!!
Just a clarification, Captain Xeto is not a Sister of Parvos, she is a candidate to become one and the last part of the quest was her trial. If she was a Sister she probably wouldn't have given up the baby since they are ruthlessly loyal to Parvos it seems, I think she took the decision to let the Stalker go because there was no consequences to her except not being able to become a Sister of Parvos in the future as she lost her chance.
@@jacobosaldarriaga4820That only makes it even more poignant, the Corpus worship nothing but the very concept of greed, they’re not above committing atrocious and despicable acts in the name of profit, so for her to turn down THE most important promotion of her whole life, most likely losing such chance forever, in favor of letting an innocent life live is, the ultimate proof of her compassion, winning over her desire for greed, her own zealous religion.
Reach the surface scene must be one of the most heartbreaking in the entire Warframe
This changes everything we thought we knew about the warframes
again!
The orokin were so lazy they infected a pregnant woman and said eh whats the worse could that happen
@@orochinagis
Narrator: The Orokins we're so, so wrong
Well it only seems possible because she was pregnant before she was transformed into a frame.
@@orochinagislazy and also like Hilariously cruel
At least this clarifies why the stalker hates the tenno now
Not because he wants to avenge the orokin, but because the tenno got their revenge just before he could
Ok, so the Stalker actually could kill us anytime it wants. Noted.
Except Duviri.
Well if Umbra got off his lazy ass, he could guard cause he’s like stalker as in he still has his sentience
@Arkaeus04 I'm more terrified by the fact that he got onto the lander in the first place and completely undetected to boot. Awake or not, that is not a dude I want to be in a confined space with.
Killing a Tenno is way different to killing a Warframe. Definitely very concerning he can just show up at any time lol, but it's more so a danger to our arsenal than us.
@Arkaeus04
That's not umbras job bruh.
Am I the only one that wants to replay this quest? As dark as it is. It needs to be replayed.
You are not the only one, I just played it and it made me very emotional
@@jasonkruger4867 emotional?? Shiiiiiit. I cried when I found out Stalker is a parent. Only thing that made me stop crying is when the Stalker jumped me in a mission. I killed him. But he jumped me nonetheless.
You can now replay the quest, after Update 34.0.4
@@theblackdragon5558 prayers answered!!!
@@theblackdragon5558 yeah I saw today, but thanks
Stalker: Tenno... I missed my wife...
Stalker: but my aim is getting better.
@benolr64 actually, if Stalker shows up to attack and a Jade is present in the group, he **refuses** to fight her. Just drops goodies and leaves.
@@gothicbutterfly013 Fr or is that a suggestion to add?
@jasonkruger4867 its an actual thing in game. Friend and I tested it using my last two beacons. He sees Jade, he straight up says "*Never*." and leaves.
@@gothicbutterfly013 that was a joke.
Tenno : * explains why it's risky to save Jade *
Hunhow : * T R Y *
edit : damn, warframe hits different since this quest
stalker say try not hunhow
It's strange for them to just let him go, the captain was looking for a Warframe as a prize instead she finds an old Hunter of tenno carrying something impossible to exist, a child born Warframe, not built or changed from infestation, but something new and born, And yet the captain and her troops just let him go..
I guess not every corpus is as cruel as they're made out to be, for this one didn't see a prize to bring to Parvos to become a sister, she saw a child born from a mother of jaded light, and a father of the darkest shadow.
In the moment it works, because the trope of "sworn enemy has a moment of humanity in the face of something unexpected and stands aside to let their quarry dramatically walk past" is a pretty good one, and this is a decent execution of it.
But given her characterization up to this point (belittling her underlings, seeing the situation as an opportunity, et cetera), it doesn't actually make sense upon further thought that she'd let them go. If anything, she'd be even more hell-bent on capturing them both after witnessing something that should be impossible. Her call to stop firing would only be out of fear of destroying it by accident, not out of compassion.
@@Biscotum maybe not, these corpus clearly follow the example of parvos and call me crazy but i don't think parvos would condone putting a child in danger for profit, if anything this shows that even the corpus have lines they don't cross unlike the orokin. obviously nef anyo would see the opportunity and not give a damn about moral's but this captain seems to be different, even if she also abuses those under her.
@@ALUCARD-us3il He definetly has more idealistic views, but Parvos has still done some petty and messed up things. Safe to say he would´nt disagree with Xeto´s decisition, but since so few people see Warframes as human he would´ve preferred for Xeto to keep firing.
Everyone's talking about Wpreg but no one's talking about Hunhow going tsundere to deliver Jade's BP
Boy Hunhow has really soften up to us. From wanting to kill us to giving as gifts every 2 years
Have we ever considered the fact as to how warframes are made...
Ballas was truly a sick fuck to turn a pregnant woman into a warframe _(which due procedure is quite agonizing from what we've seen in The Sacrifice)_
Umbra and stalker about to be seen sharing a beer together
Meanwhile Umbra's adoptive son the Tenno is babysitting Sirius/Orion.
Stalker: Listen, BOY!
I wonder how the stalker would act if you use Jade in the second dream when you find out you are a tenno not a warframe.
Probably wouldn’t change anything. If you do run Jade and Stalker attempts to spawn, he’ll say “Never” and simply leave his drops rather than fighting.
Looks like Stalkie didn't want them both to become a WF. But the orokin did it anyway, so that is why sorren (stalker) hunt.
I was just about to ask if Jade is pregnant cause she looks kinda plump but looks like somebody asked that already lol
the only thing i dont like is this is the only mission we can play as stalker, and no. u cant repeat that mission.
Not the first time that a new quest isn't replayable. I think it's because of an issue such as getting the ending rewards again for redoing the quest. Not sure why this isn't a thing from the beginning but it'll be replayable in a future update
You can play him in the new clan mission
@@Lighto_bssesed how?
@@c0ck48 talk to ordis, in the mercury lobby, he is towards the navigation
@@c0ck48 You need to talk to Ordis in the Larunda Relay, there will be an option to assist.
Wait! so Umbra still canonically roam the orbiter?
Yep liked the reference
@@orochinagis Yea I liked it when ordis mentioned Umbra.
I Laugh alot when he mention Helminth
They should release a drone for the orbiter that is basically just Umbra walking around.
@@SuperLuigi1025
Also new interactions
Operator: Excalibur umbra lifts you up and places you on the warframe shoulder, a dad and teenage son/daughter
Drifter: fist bumps and a high five
Do you think we're gonna see Sirius/Orion in the future?
I want to believe so but the fact that you get to choose the name makes me wonder how one is gonna market it. In Genshin Impsct, for a certain character you are able to choose their name, so its highly likely that Sirius/Orion will go by a different default name in the future or we just won't play as them at all.
Stalker's (aka Sorren) baby looks soooooo Cute.♥ also, I too chose Sirius for the name of his baby lol
That final decision with the colours, I take it to mean that green is what Jade would've named him and red is what the Stalker would've named him. Given the events, I figured it was thematically fitting to go with green.
@@Aurora-313 Yeah, Naming his baby Sirius in honor of Jade's passing (aka his wife) is the best choice.
Even the lights from stalker changed to green and the baby's clothes were green as well
@@bilhanlatino6464 Yeah, it was awesome.
I didn't even think as far as you guys, i just chose sirius because i don't like the name orion
Y’know I wonder if the kid will ever come back and us naming the kid is just a poll on what their name will be if the the baby Warframe returns as an adult Warframe
"HE IS ON. A. DE-RA-LICT!!"
Oh just had a great idea....the child is a warframe Sirius/Orion will properly be the next frame so what if you have them and at a random time on a mission Stalker would randomly show up and maybe revive you and maybe there is a higher chance he show up if you are playing on a solo mission as Sirius/Orion.
Lone Stalker and Cub.
I wanna see it.
Oh god Jade is basically, Justice/Aria/Jack-O and Stalker is Sol Badguy.
Big question which name did you chose
Sirius
I chose Sirius
I say that choosing a name is my belief but I say that it will be so that in the future we can see thestalker and his son again
That is to say layers is a question for all tenno to choose the permanent name of the baby
I went with "Orion." Seemed fitting.
What… in the sam… fuck…
So cool! Sadly i lost interest in Waframe after the operator stuff was written because i did not connect with the story.
Never mess with a single dad and his kid
People stating correctly that Jade was pregnant before becoming warframe. This does not mean warframes cannot reproduce. Because now sirius/orion exist and through them the implication is they can now.
All crew, ceasefire, ceasefire, *STOP FIRING!*
The part where jade is dying but it is unknown how she is dying reminds me of Padmae giving birth to the twins
I nearly cried due to this quest
genuinely moving quest but i fret to imagine what would've happened if this were a grineer squadron
Jade>>>smash
she's been smashed
Correction, smashed*
this made me cry 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Last message of hunhow really hits
He’s basically alone now without stalker