if BRUSHY BILL WAS BILLY the kid
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- On the anniversary of his death in 1950, Michael examines the life of Brushy Bill Roberts and asks the question "What would change if Brushy Bill WAS Billy the Kid?"
#brushybillroberts #billythekid #sarcasm #humor #truth #history
Billy Bonney is the Gucci original and Brushy is the Walmart knockoff
Except his name wasn’t William. It was Oliver and his own family said he was lying.
Billy the kid has an Irish face, Brush Bill has a German face... they look nothing alike.
Brushy bill's photo is a 93 percent match to young Billy the kid. Looks are meant to be deceiving sometimes 🤔
@@truthryder8947 please visit an optometrist
@@truthryder8947 yeah especially when they are different people. 🤣
@holeymattress8128 Dead right
@truthryder8947 that's just not true. There never was any 93% photo match
He wasn't Billy the kid he was too young
At a loss for words. MAG, is there a TH-cam equivalent for the Oscars, Tonys or Emmys? You win! MAGnificent!
Very entertaining way of showing all the holes in Brushy’s story and yet done in a way that perhaps may not be to offensive to the Brushy folks. I really enjoy the embedded humor that is given, without compromising the facts!
If brushy wasn't Billy he certainly lived an interesting life...
Yeah, he did. But not according to his relatives. Some of his relatives have stated he was not Billy the Kid. He just admired him through out his life. The age didn't make sense. But he got his point heard.
Just another idiot trying to make a buck
Everything interesting about his life was a lie
Awww... Torreon-sized tongue-in-cheek talk and all, you made me smile but also be moved by this performance. One gotta love the old storyteller once one walks in his boots... My theory is: your heart has grown bigger tonight, just like the Grinch's heart, once you felt what Brushy did feel ☺ Happy Heavenly Birthday, ole man!
Pat Garrett’s daughter and Pat’s grandson say that Pat did NOT SHOOT OR KILL BILLY the KID.
wrong again
Where do you find verification for that? I’ve heard and read that elsewhere, but I have yet to find a citation or source other than hearsay. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just want to know the source of these claims.
Pat Garrett didn't lie to save Billy he lied to save his own ass for killing the wrong man for the third time. That's why he lied. And that's what cop's do best is fucking lie just like they still do to this very day
You are right these people are idiots.@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi
They did not say that. That is more Brushy Bill Cult Members BS.
I raised my glass to the memory of Brushy the Kid.
Fair is fair.
I doubt anyone will be doing a video about me 72 years after my death.
For good or ill he is remembered, and it doesn't get any better than that after we have shuffled off this mortal coil.
Wow Michael! You are a consumate actor. I was feeling a little down and jaded but watching your performance had me in stitches all the way through and laughing out loud. You had some great lines on there.
Thankyou. Laughter is the best tonic.
Quote:
Hanging Judge Parker pulls Brushy the Kid aside and says "Hey, listen! I know that you're Billy the Kid. I mean I know about New Mexico and Ollinger, like I know all that.
Look, I should probably hang you, but I like you - no, not in that way!"
Classic. I nearly spat my drink out.
Brushy the BS Specialist.
Methinks you were a very effective salesman
Robert E. Howard (another native of Texas) wrote the Conan tales non-sequentially when a friend asked him why he didn't publish them chronalogically he had a brilliant response he said that if you were sitting and listening to some old soldier or adventurer recount tales from his youth he would not tell you things chronologically but relate incidences as they occured to him
I heard someone say once, never let the facts get in the way of a good story
I would believe John Miller more than Brushy.
Me too
I think there is some truth to Brushy Bill being Billy the kid he wasn't looking for fame etc he just wanted his pardon that he was promised many many years before.
So, Billy the Kid was born in 1859 and lived for 91 years when the average life expectancy was around 60 years. Apparently planning ahead to his life on the lam from the 1880s until the 1940s, he creates a new identity in 1879 for the fellow that is later known as "Brushy Bill". Pat Garratt risks everything literally to create a coverup so someone who murdered two of his deputies and his predecessor can get away and start a new life. Of course, he needed the help of several people including two new deputies and the people of Ft. Sumner. Heck, I think that "Brushy Bill" faked his own death and is still alive out there somewhere and enjoying life at 165 years old.
Not trying to start, no BS. But look at the JFK ASSASSINATION . Cover up is very great in this country.
No he died in december 1951. Age 91.
@@jessewoodsonjames6669 Why not believe that he is still alive? If you are going to believe that Billy lived to be 91, might as well believe that he is still alive.
Many people lived past 90 in the 50's and before. Average life expectancy is just that, the average. Many infants and children die and and adults at any age while many live well past 100. Remember that the average life expectancy for a male today is only 73!
@@vibe80118 I am not sure what has gotten into people that are fantasizing about evil people living on to old age. There are many hoping the cop-killer Billy the Kid, thief and murderer Jesse James, thief and killer John Dillinger, maniac and mass murderer Adolf Hitler, all lived long lives after faking their deaths even after all the evidence says otherwise.
Governor Mabry should have given Roberts a pardon then charged him with the murders of olinger n bell. Would've been interesting to see what happened next.
What I do find interesting is that both Brushy and Billy have what is known as Pediatric Trigger Finger which essentially means your thumb gets stuck in a bent (flexed) position. It can no longer straighten. My point is if you look at both Brushy and Billy’s thumbs you can can see they both have that condition which i don’t see many people pointing out. That said, I still cannot get over their faces looking so different.
Spoken like a soldier. Well done 👏
How did you come by that gem of info? Ive never even heard of such a thing. Thats even for ammo that Billy lived on.
I am 70 years old. you can not recognize me now from my high school picture. no comparison at all. That being said the young picture of brushy matches up quite well most certainly the eyebrows ears and chin.
@@princewilliam1717 saw it in a documentary once.
I just wonder if that tintype is basically showing a really malnourished Brushy. I mean if it’s Billy or Brushy surely there was hardly any time to just relax and have a nice quiet meal. He was always moving around, plotting, being chased.
There’s a lady that was an eyewitness to Billy, the kid shooting sheriff Brady, I’m wondering if brushy’s story lines up with hers?
everybody keep digging..video was1895'ish....there is film and stills of people from billys era still out there..keep digging
Some of the men standing around said he didn't even wait to see if it was Billy the kid that he ran out of the room screaming like a woman followed closely by Maxwell
Why would he run out of the room screaming if you believe he let Billy go?
If he was billy the kid then I'm 2pac
This is what I call entertainment! 👌🏻👏🏻
Brush Bills nose looks nothing like the kid in the tin type
Exactly! his nose is down turned and pointed, very German. Billy the kid has a Irish nose with the nostrils visible.
Bullshit it's a spot on match dude
Brushy has to be billy,the photo from silver city looks pretty good, dont you think?
Here, here!¡! Excellent performance! How you kept a straight face I'll never know!🌟🏆 Definitely not gonna play poker with you Michael!
That one thing that makes me think he might have possibly been Billy the kid was because he didn't shout it out to the world he didn't even want his wife to know and imposter would have told everybody and specially his wife I believe. I mean during his official lifetime he had a lot of excuses a lot of people didn't feel like that Billy had anything to apologize for and every town pack Garrett went looking for Billy the kid Pat Garrett was considered the billing Billy was considered the victim now I'm not saying Billy considered himself the victim but the people did.
People who lived in Hico Texas said that Brushy Bill would dodder around town telling anyone he could corner that he was Billy the Kid, a former U.S. Marshal, that he was in the Wild Bill's Wild West Show, etc. He was a demented old man known for telling tall tales.
I don’t think that Billy would have stayed in the area even close to where he was wanted
It's hard to believe even more than Pat Garrett's account. That Brushy the kid came out when he heard shots with his guns blazing and didn't once hit anyone. Yet he get 3 bullets once a head shot and another a face shot then a third in the shoulder. 😮
And yet Pat didn't go after him ? The kid Barlow would have been a collateral damage in between a gun fight.
Better yet why would a kid (Barlow) that was new to the area go for meat at the house of Maxwell at midnight ? Did he know Maxwell that well, then how come Maxwell didn't recognize him.
The odd thing is that many people saw the dead kid and stated that Pat killed Billy the kid. Yea people might point to the deputy Poe and claim he said " you killed the wrong kid" , but Poe himself cleared this up years later. In which he at first thought it was impossible that Billy the kid would come here. Again to emphasize everyone that saw him claimed it was Billy the kid.
I872 went home , who did he talk to in the Buffalo Gap area ? To find out his father had moved to Carolton , there couldn't have been to many families in the area at that time ! One family there was Oliver Milton Lee who moved to the Tularosa Basin area a few years later after his father died , why would Lee pick this place out of the blue ? Someone told him about the country and I think Brushy told them about that part of the country while on his search for his father . What do you think ?
Totally sarcastic way of telling the story the way you think everything went down
You think?
From all the videos I have watched. I believe Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid.
Not sure which videos you're watching, but I can't believe anyone that actually did any research could actually believe that.
Lil belly didnt have enough male hormones to grow a moustache or beard. He had what is known as CAT FUZZ. he needed to fertilize it to make it grow. 😂
WOW, you have done a 180 on Brushy Bill. I was just hoping that you could be more open minded about it. I still am not sure, but I'm impressed with the fact that some of the things that Brushy said about the Lincoln County War the Historians said that he got many things wrong. Then later researchers going thru court records, government records, personal correspondence between ppl that were there during the war, including his own correspondence between Billy and Gov. Wallace, proved that Brushy was right, and the Historians wrong. Pretty impressive.
P.S. I realize now that this was sarcasm after seeing the comments. I was a little frustrated that you were making exaggerated assumptions that didn't make sense to me, in favor of Brushy Bill.
brushy was the kid.
@@leakylimboHe was a wannabe
I say no way Brushy is Billy. 1st and foremost he looks nothing like him
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I'm dying over here 😂
Every time you talked about him with beef fat on his head, I needed my inhaler! 😂 I kept picturing him throughout, shooting a branding iron out of horse thieves hands, riding Cyclone, still with the beef tallow on his head. Hey! I know what’s in John Millers trunk that proved he’s really Billy the Kid, blood soaked beef fat! Wait, I have my Billy’s mixed up, clearly I need to give this more thought 🤔
I believe Brushy was Billy , all he wanted was his owed Pardon and they killed him again giving him a heart attack
There’s no proof at all. Lol. You people are funny
Michael, this is so good!
Sorry I missed the live stream yesterday but this made my morning!!
This same story is told by a descendent of an important figure who was there that night , as was handed down through his family..there are some differences but , the guy killed was this other Billy , and Billy the kid escaped.. and this other Billy was buried pretty fast by 08:30 in the morning . The really fast burial says alot ..
Who was the person telling this story, and where is it documented?
many have called Garett a coward as well I think his actions at the Santa Fe train station proves that what-ever he was he was NOT a coward
Reap the whirlwind Sheriff BraDY…REAP IT
Monogrammed Towels, that’s hilarious
I love the sarcasm 😂
NO WAY !! Facial features do not change, the jaw and the chin are nowhere close ! Not happening !!!
You're wrong dude
@BobbyMcReynolds-lx3dj you are if you believe in Brushy
we need you for young guns 3
Thank you, this was great!
Not even the real Billy the Kid could do even 20% of what Brushy accomplished in his life.
Truth is stranger then fiction.
@@princewilliam1717 So are you saying that all things Brushy claimed to be and have done are real?
@@attilathehun0 I would like to believe that due to diligent work of a Mr. Daniel Edwards who has written a rather impressive book on the subject along with his numerous online interviews that he has given. However I haven't read the book yet and probably wont.
@@princewilliam1717 I have seen Edwards interviews too. "I'm not promoting a conspiracy and I'm not trying to make money selling a book" His statement makes him a liar. Lol! An autobiography is an account of a person's life written by that person. Yet Daniel Edward's wrote an autobiography of Billy the Kid that's a major problem.
@@attilathehun0 Well you cant judge a book by its cover or title, which in this case is simply a play on words. Read the book before you judge it or him.
Do you know how ridiculous it sounds that the person that Garret shot was some random guy who is also called Billy but it's "Billy Barlow" not Billy Bonney and he also looked like Billy. There is no historical record of this guy Barlow living and no census reports of him ever living and riding with Billy. Id love to believe Billy survived the shot from Garret but man oh man I read the Alias Billy the Kid book and Brushy was a pathological liar. He fought against Pancho Villa? Joined the traveling circus? Im sorry but William H Bonney was shot and killed by Sheriff Pat Garret. This is coming from a guy who loves the Young guns movies especially part 2 but I just have to be honest here. Too many inconstancies from Brushy
Tell us please: The testimony is that the guy Garret shot had a full beard. Do you agree this was the official story?
Do you think the man shot in Maxwell's home had a full beard and was 'stained' to look like a Mexican? Simple questions.
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This was the most incredible MOCKumentary ive ever heard !! How did u keep a straight face ? I couldnt stop laughing at you !!! You changed every fact to fit your narrative omg incredible !! Absolutely GENIUS !! The 36 cowboys against the 2,000 indians i cant !!! Judge parker i cant !!! Im gonna watch it again what fun !!! You are to be commended , applauded, great great work michael im such a fan keep it up PLEASE !!!
Some people got it. Some didn’t
@@MankindMediaLLC yes i read the comments ,,you kept such a straight face in presenting your distorted insane ridiculous narrative some people thought u flipped ( ny term lol ) i knew it was a MOCKumentary !! Awesome fun !!!
That's another thing in brushy bills favor every single book listed Tom o'fallard as his name brushy bill called him Tom failure and he said don't you mean oh failure then he said no his name was Tom o. Failure and that was correct. I mean you simply can't make that up if he's the only one that got it right that speaks of volumes and I mean volumes and I heard no book not a single one got it correct.. and I don't know why that doesn't put the nail in the coffin because if he's the only one that got it correct then that should be a case closed that he is Billy in fact Billy the kid
You're wrong....Brushy calls him O'Folliard every time. You have to ask yourself what else you're wrong about now too....
@@MankindMediaLLC well said
People did see Billy. People who had no reason to lie
No one saw him, because he was dead.
You were totally against brushy bill. So many videos denying him as a fraud. Now this. I seen every video you made. Asked you few questions you did reply I appreciate that. What changed your mind so fast when you were so against everything about brushy bill? You really got me confused I'm sure others also. I guess it was just a great show of exaggeration well done.
It's called entertainment. 😉
@@Trust009 sure am. Here in the Philippines is beautiful. I just am wild west fan. I don't understand what made him say how he was so emotional. Whats all that about
@@henriksjolund8162 i agree. But its also about legends and lives of real people. If it's entertainment then is it all not real and like a so called reality show? What was the reason he was so emotional. Its great entertainment and very good information for sure. Just took me by surprise is all
@@nyctosoutheastasia7175
Okay, I'll try to explain nicely what I think about MAGs Live.
But first I want to tell you that I used to believe that Brushy was BTK but I have realized that Brushy was not BTK and Brushy is not a legend but an annoying topic that constantly comes up when you freely discuss BTK.
Brushy has been debunked so many times over and all the hard facts point to him not being BTK.
Brushy had every opportunity to learn about BTK's life from people who knew BTK if he wanted to so Brushy's knowledge is worthless that way.
If Brushy had not included so much when describing his life, he would have been more believable at least.
I mean no harm and you can believe and think what you want about Brushy for me. Now to MAG's Live.
I think he wanted to play a prank on us just so nothing to get hung up on. What I'm most surprised about is how well he could do it and how convincing he was and didn't break character once and all this live.
He probably had a good laugh afterwards.
Peace ✌️🫶
@@henriksjolund8162 It's called disinformation and disservice to history.
Had to leave at the 37 min mark but it sounds like you and Daniel Edwards are in agreement.
Not so much
@@MankindMediaLLC I sure wish you were though. I think your both good researchers and great guys too.
@@MankindMediaLLC Okay I will watch the second half of the vid.
he was willing to die to protect his prisoners
You can trace brushy bill from the age of 1 year old till his death
Old man Chano Silva in fort Sumner who was a grandson of a Sylva who knew Billy in his interview he said his Grandfather said Pat Garrett shot Billy with a sawed off shotgun he was under a cot on the a porch kinda like a breeze way by Pete Maxwell's door so how can someone be identified with his face blown off Mr. Sylva also said Pat Garrett was afraid of Billy the Kid but he believed Billy was killed that night .
Brushy also claimed to be a member of the James' gang.
i got 1950s picture with brushy bill in bed and some col. swearing he was jesse james
Actually the man in bed was J Frank Dalton who said he was Jesse James. Brushy is standing behind him and told the photographer that he had been a member of the James Gang.
Billy never said he was a member of the James gang. He said his father was. Do your research man. Jessie knew Billy the kid's father
I’ve done my research. Brushy was and is a fraud with no proof of his ridiculous story. He claimed almost everything that has proven to be false. Stop drinking the kool aid on this fraudulent story.
@@dwaynebrown163 load of rubbish
@@MankindMediaLLC totally agree. The man was a wannabe. The real Billy would have no respect for a person like him . A liar
Depends on who is 'documenting' things too.
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There was no sarcasm in this video at all! 😂😂
MAG has the kinda smarts you would look for in someone who could actually pull off a big hoax.
I want to wish he was what he said he was. But turns out he was a liar and a horse thief
Damn straight
What color were his eye i heard billy was blue and brushy were brown
Brushys went brown because he was so full of Shit
Explain to me how younger pictures of brushy show him having ear lobes ? I wanna know how they changed because his loves were at one time NOT attached to his jaw
Perhaps you can just read this and learn.... www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2023/release/ear-shape-as-accurate-as-fingerprints#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20-%20which%20compared,even%20distinguish%20between%20identical%20twins.
The ear lobes don't match. They are like finger prints.
The fascinating thing brushy was not btk for certain but how did he get such details that are seemingly accurate? From where did he source this? He was to young to be the kid he couldn't speak a word of Spanish I think he was illiterate and looked nothing like btk any ideas?
I guess it depends on what details you’re asking about. If you take a close look at it, Brushy didn’t actually know that much about the LCW at all. Many of the things he did say were wrong.
Very interesting considering billy was born a few years before brushy, billy was born in New York and brushy was born in Texas not to forget brushy used many aliases and was a known liar, if brushy was billy then it’s good to know he survived but I highly doubt he was the kid.
Can I email you some photographs that show inconsistencies?
Love the video by the way i’m a huge fan of billy, tunstall and the regulators and of course the great Pat garret
Absolutely. Billythekidridesagain@gmail.com
Yea Brushey Bill was Billy the Kid!
BS
i always believed he shot the wrong guy and then passed it off as billy the kid.he tells everyone around to say its him alright and that means taking the heat off billy.calling off the manhunts.i dont think brushy bill is the kid but maybe knew someone who knew him and gave him the facts or could have got it off him instead
Yh why would a old man know every detail of all that happened to the kid and more true than the history says. And why would he want to lie about it. We know that history lied about everything else . You probably believe in cov1d and believe bin lad took down the buildings with planes there for your opinion isn't worth NOTHING
Brushy maybe wore a big mustache because his teeth aren’t swirly.
You’ve earned my subscription
maybe Rooster Cogburn was Billy the KId (he did mention being in New Mexico) lol
it makes me wonder if ever a psychologist or lie anylist has ever looked into Brushy's claims and given an opinion
The wrong “friend”, I think he betrayed a lot of people so you don’t trust him and you don’t like him I get that, and I agree I wasn’t there.
He doesn’t look anything like Billy the Kid !!!
I agree....
How does he not
@BobbyMcReynolds-lx3dj Have a proper look . Take your I want to believe glasses off
Look, I said it before. How can an old man like Brushy Bill have a symmetrical posture, while BTK slumped his shoulders (no doubt spina bifida) at age 20? It would get worse with age, not better. Checkmate pal.
The word you are looking for is s a r c a s m
I believe most of us want to believe he lived and it was someone else, I really feel bad for Billy, Doc and Chavez, this way we can imagine their life were they to survive. I’m not sure why Pat Garrett’s book hits me wrong, because I don’t believe much of it, no offense to his family, Lord knows I wasn’t there, but something is off there.
Great pod 😀
I believe her was the Kid. A old man doesn't have that kind of information !
Glad you do when his own family does not
He does when he makes it up
My great great grandfather was a deputy marshal in 89 for Isaac Parker. He never mentioned meeting someone named Brushy Bill.
There is a.possibility your great gtandfather never met him.
@@renopro3639 very possible.
He went by different names according to Daniel Edwards who is an authority on the topic.
You aren't very clever
I found William Robert’s in the rough riders…
Where was he during the Civil War?
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Is this sarcasm or do you believe Brushy Bill?
so what really happen to him i really wonder
CAN'T be! The ear lobes make it IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Ears never stop growing . He was the kid tooo much evidence and show me a picture of Billy's ears up close
He 'let's' Foliard lead? Could it be that's just the way it panned out? Could it be his friend was his equal along with the others acting in concert?...most of the time, until the dung hits the fan and he's off and running. Garrett didn't have to convince the population. Most were unsure themselves and only a few saw the body...save for a small handful that helped Brushy escape. Garrett didn't likely know if or how many times they hit Brushy or maybe that it even was Brushy if he was still thinking he'd gotten him already. So he commits to Billy being already dead for the reasons you mention, needing him to be. The locals say he used a shotgun though. Being the population was Mexican, and they knew who's side Garrett was on, I doubt anyone had to coerce them.
brilliant loved this. IF only
I can believe that you forget through the years. Lol I enjoy you!!! Like minded!
Shooting branding irons out of peoples hands?....probably from the hip like John Wayne?...sir have you ever fired a vintage Colt revolver?.....how many tries did it take?
Dude...read between the lines....
I should have rewound and listened...sorry for jumping the gun.
Loved this show!
I suppose if you know nothing about Billy the Kid you might be conned into that absurd Brushy Bill story. I saw Billy on a flying saucer the other day waving at me.
That was Brushy . He was years younger than Billy and also a wannabe . He belongs on a flying saucer
I agree
Who needs evidence, when we have you? The facts and testimonies mean nothing compared to your sales pitch. I’m not buying Michael! I’ve also heard enough in the first few minutes, to realize I could not subscribe. Oh, Pat Garrett is not the same guy you mention. Read about beef fat too!
You need a lesson in the word "sarcasm"....look it up!
Brushy the Kid.. so will there be a “all things Brushy the Kid” channel ? Lol
spot on
Wasn't he crazy plus not born near billy's date of birth or death? And he didn't speak Spanish 🤷♂️
Actually nobody actually knew his birthday or where Billy was born
And you're wrong brushy Bill spoke fluent Spanish maybe you should do some research
@heBobbyMcReynolds-lx3dj He spoke fluent Spanish with his head in a bucket of water telling lies ! He was never fluent. Believe what you wish.
Yes I do believe Brushy Bill story, why do most believe that Pat Garrett would have been telling the truth after all of his misdeeds, lies, dishonesty etc etc and let's face it , it was Upson and Garrett that put that whole legend together, why so much stock held in that story. Seems to me too much has to be lost in revenue, jobs, etc if they change the story now which lets face it probably is true. Steve Sedewall, Dan Edwards have much more evidence than Garrett ever had.
No one loses any revenue....that is not a driving force.
I believe you re right and remember a law man in Lincoln County was nothing more then an outlaw with a badge bought and paid for by corrupt men in power. Thats outlaw justice for you and I think Garrett simply lost his nerve and felt that after 3 failed ambushes his luck was running out against Billy.
That makes Garett not only a liar but a murderer and the end of his life was pretty pathetic as he got a taste of his own medicine.
Quite often A lie pays better then the truth and that's the path Garrett took. The easy stay alive path. haha