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You had a video glamorising Brad Shoenfeld, a "scientist" who studies volume and HIT failure training while not even knowing what true failure is... Look up his failure videos. It's pathetic. Now you're criticizing Dorian Yates/ HIT lol. Why should this video have any credibility?
I've always just done rolling weeks depending on what my split needed. Usually it ended up a "8 day week" with something like gym, gym, gym, rest, gym, gym, gym, rest. 7 is just such an odd number to work with.
I got to meet Dorian when I was 22 (1997) and in the best shape of my life. I went to a meet and greet in Sacramento with a couple of really jacked dudes and he simply dwarfed us all in comparison. But, he was incredibly personable and pretty humble for who he was at the time. They say “Never meet your heroes” but I was glad I got to meet Dorian at his peak. Super cool dude and really fun to talk with.
Dorian's ability to transition to a health life post-bodybuilding may be one of his most impressive qualities. He's managed to stay in shape, age well and maintain mobility, meanwhile most of his contemporaries either died tragically young or developed terrible joint issues.
@@JordaanM there’s a youtube video where he’s interviewed about steroid use and he details how he cycled properly rather than just smashing it and how guys today are taking multiples of what he used. It’s interesting viewing.
LOL duh... Dorian was at his peak 260lbs ripped to the bone, Mr o winners level quality of muscle... of course hes going to make you look small... these guys are freaks of nature and this is there full time job at the highest level
Chuck Norris once incline benched even smoother than that and a man named Mr. Smith paid Chuck to let him call his machine the "Smith Machine" and not the "Norris Machine".....
Dorian said himself that he did increase his training to 5 days and his progress slowed then came to a halt. When he went back to less volume he got bigger and stronger again.
When I started working out, I joined the only local gym in town that was frequented by 3 national champs and several others who looked to break into that sphere, too. Only I had no idea about who they were and knew nothing about working out. So U did what the trainer told me to do, went through all beginner phases and did all I was told. Worked out 4 times a week, and at the beginning, did some progress, just like everyone else who starts doing this thing. But nothing to write home about. Then I had to trim my number if workouts to 3, sometimes even two a week, and shorten them, too because of my other commitments. And almost immediately guys started to see gains on me, especially shoulders and arms - I did those only once a week because I thought my back, chest and legs need more workouts. But as I continued with this schedule, the progress on chest, legs and back was slower than the other two areas, and that made me realize that maybe I should reverse my schedule and try to do chest, back and legs only once a week and arms and shoulders twice. And the effect was exactly as I thought it would be. Since then, I employed rather short routines with high intensity, knowing nothing about Mike Mentzer's HIT, and even too guys in the gym who worked out sometimes even twice a day, 5 times a week, were literally flabbergasted by my progress where they stagnated. Ever since then, I've always stuck with short, super high intensity gym sessions with no breaks in between the sets, mostly two sets of each, and I was out of gym in 35 minutes. Later, I incorporated Sergio Oliva routine crossed with Mike Mentzer's style, and that's when I looked the best I've ever did. That was around my 28-30 age. Then I had to stop because of my intense job hours, and was just very opportunistic and infrequent in my workouts. I'm now 64, and still in decent shape, but want to find time to do this again at least twice a week because if it's huge health benefits to me at the time (I was never sick in ten years I've done it, very strong relative to my size and weight yet still athletic and flexible enough to do other sports.. I'm a huge fan of short, super intense workouts. It gives you everything you could ever ask for in bodybuilding.
@@mitsanut5869So let me be clear on your most effective split. You went 3 days a week. With 1 day of compound work (Chest or Back or Legs) and then 2 days of arm isolation work? I think that's certainly sensible. Relative to the other parts of the body the arms are quite small and therefore require less recovery than say your legs or back or chest would.
@@mitsanut5869I'll give it a try, see what works. Perhaps I'll hit arms/shoulders on monday and friday and then hit legs/chest/back on wednesday. Currently I'm more of a 4 days of rest sort of guy and it's been giving me solid progress. It's worth a try to apply the idea that since certain muscles recover FAR faster that it justifies working them more often. But on the other hand I question if it would impact the ability of my larger muscles to have enough recoverability to not just maintain itself but grow.
@@vToneehh He always combined chest and back, and shoulders and arms into one huge superset with no rest in between. So he would start chest set followed by back set followed by another chest set and so on. The only rest you could get with his routine was basically the few seconds between switching the machines or weights. He also had similar routine like me in terms of which exercises he did for his muscle groups, so I decided that I would go for it. It was absolutely the most brutal routine I've ever done. You go for broke in super high tempo with most weight you can put on while not sacrificing technique, and you always are under pressure in both ends of the exercise (push and resistance), trying to explode with the first phase and then go back on resistance for at least 4-6 seconds. You absolutely need a partner for that routine. The whole routine (for example back and chest) in each separate session would take roughly about 35 minutes plus about 10 minutes of warm up with very small weights. On this routine, I saw the biggest increase of not only my strength but also in my physical appearance. You strategically target certain muscle groups and bind them together because that's where they experience biggest blood flow adjacent to the area you directly work out, if that makes sense. I had incredible results with his routine in just three months. I never aspired to compete, so it wasn't even done in it's totality as he did it. I left out some of his more detailed routine oriented sessions because I didn't have the time or the desire to compete. But just the switch from "normal" routine to this absolute insanity (in my view) brought incredible results. There are some details that I would have to go over that one has to pay attention to when doing this, but I think to this day that if I have the time available again to go to gym on regular basis, I'd do this and only this routine again without any doubt. It's the most physically and mentally rewarding routine I've ever done.
Actually, Dorian HAD ALREADY BEEN TRAINING 5 DAYS A WEEK , for a YEAR, then he met Mike Mentzer, and Mike recommended him to stop working out 5 days a week. And when Dorian STOPPED, and went to 4 days a week, HE BLEW UP!!!!!
I am not Dorian Yates and this is purely anecdotal I have also blown up from going from 5 to 4 days a week. It's the biggest single difference maker I've ever tried. I've also put about 12kg on my working sets for bench press in three months. Would recommend it for absolutely anyone who is 2+ years in the gym.
Didn't Dorian refused to share information about his training because he thought it would give even a slightest advantage to his opponents. Dude was crazy competitive
@@AScaryOrange123 bullshit all of them were genetically gifted competing with each other their genetic potential was super close barely any difference between em.
Dorian is a legend in bodybuilding and also how he rethought / changed / rebooted his life after his bodbuilding career. He is now all pilates, yoga, breathing, everything that is focused on longevity rather than muscle. And from the looks of it, he is successful.
Agree 100% with this. When I was training in the 90's, Dorian was my hero. I was never nearly as big, but for a guy who ran his whole life into his 30's THEN started the muscle thing, I got a lot of gains following his plans in Muscle and Fitness magazine. I was a fan of all the body builders mentioned in this vid, but it was Dorian who stood out for his physique, commitment, and authenticity. Props.
Just an interesting story I heard from my work manager. (he used to compete on an amateur level in the 90’s and actually trained with Cormier, Shawn, Serg Nubret, etc.) He said in the 90’s he went to see Dorian guest pose. He never seen him in person and only saw him in magazines. When Dorian came out he said Dorian didn’t look anything “crazy” or “wild”. (This was offseason btw). BUT, when Dorian hit his first pose, my manager said “it looked like pose after pose he was blowing up and turning into this freakish monster”. My manager was shocked and in awe. The best way he described it as was “seeing a gorilla full of muscle with all his fur shaved off”. Crazy to think how dorian must have looked. I’m too young to have seen the 90’s guys in person but man crazy shit.
I saw them all at muscle beach & Marina athletic club in 1994-6 and it was wild. I was working out hard and given respect and then these huge monsters would walk up and I’d be in awe. (Update: Like, mouth hung open, Lee Haney or Yates or somebody mind-blowing like that just getting a workout in or doing a top photo shoot. I’m flashing back now!)
Meet many of them in Cleveland at a NPC shows. Got to talk to him and others and got a signed photo. He was the guest poser, was just huge beyond your imagination. I believe his weigh was 280. But just huge.
You guys are damn lucky. I’m 30 and was just a baby when these legends were competing. I wish I could have seen them in person. It must have been breathtaking.
@@giovanir69 sorry yeah you missed a hell of an era. I started training back in 1969. I started buying and collecting magazines from the 70-80& 90s I had, Mr America. Muscle Builder, Strength & Health. Muscle Mag. MD-Muscle Development, Flex, Iron Man, so many. I still have a collection from 1989 about 2015 then most if not all stopped being printed. Some of the greatest photos and training routines ever printed. Unfortunately now the past. It’s all You-Tube stuff just not the same anymore!
Believe, my friend...I met him in 1997 and it was absolutely shocking. Pics, videos, nothing do him justice. The guys forearms , thighs and calves were his best bodyparts . The back was just a nice dd-on. He was an absolute beast, over 300 lbs at 5 ft 9
Dorian Yates was genetically gifted, gym owner offered him free membership to encourage further workouts. He was poor, living in subsidized apartment, had criminal record, had to work hard physically and then train while not having much money to eat. Dorian's training methods came from life reality and limitation on time and resources. He gave us a glimmer of hope, that with hard work, discipline and maximum effort one can improve his physique immensely. For over 10 years he lived like a monk, not interacting socially, not seeking pleasures of this world. He maximized everything to achieve a success and to become a living legend of bodybuilding.
Dorian Yates would do the lat spread, that felt like it took 20 seconds to fully open, the show would be over. He looked like a super hero to me as a kid. Great work, Doc Mike 👍🏾
@@steveroonie37 yes. and he’s still thriving. He has admitted to making mistakes along the way, now he teaches how to avoid his mistakes. Imagine the amount of weight he had to lift to become a Champion, we’re not likely to lift even half of that.
He has written down and published every training session from 83 to 97. - He was first stuck at some point and when he lowered the volume down he started to grow again. - When he tried to increase the volume later on he got stuck again. - He did bicep-back tricep-chest in different training days, so he was still training biceps and tricep 2 times a week in his interpretation. - He got the biggest calves ever training it once a week with very very heavy weights.
When I was a kid, I was obsessed with Conan the barbarian. I wanted to look like Arnold. But the first time I saw Dorian on the cover of a bodybuilding magazine at the bookstore, I couldn't believe a person could look like that. Instantly hooked on bodybuilding. Legend.
I think there is a video regarding platz and the low volume training. If i remember correctly it goes something like this: if muscle gain and hyperthrophy is the goal: train more frequently, and more than one or two working sets..
Dorian's Blood & Guts" is the greatest training video of all time. I have it on VHS. (I bought it when it first came out) "Come On Diesel, Let's Get Busy!!" Leroy is awesome.
It's not a brummie accent. It's not even the piss poor imitation of a brummie accent that we hear in Peaky Blinders. BTW, every, but every, hard man in Britain sewed a razor blade in the peak of his cap. Scottish soldiers used to sew them in their glengarries.
German Grand Prix 96 - when I saw pictures and footage of him back then I fell in love with the sport. Idc if he hadn't had the best structure or workout plan but his fking mindset ... he was just raw, pure animal instinct when he was in his gym.
16:24 Agree 100% on the lying bench curl for the biceps! They have long been a stubborn muscle for me and this variation has absolutely blown my biceps up
I’ve met Kevin Levrone in person at Exile Fitness in Maryland. He’s real chill. An amazing presence when he’s in the gym. Gonna see Ronnie Coleman this weekend. True inspirations.
I think people dont understand that when doing hypertrophy training (failure/near failure)with 400lb- 500lb plus weights set after set you cant recover easily. Absolutely the bigger and stronger the harder to recover.
I've met Dorian and this is what he was saying all the time. The more advanced you are the more you need to recover. Your cns doesn't increase but it gets used just a bit
Exactly. But you have gymbros going "Dorian trained like this and he's the GOAT so fuck your evidence-based training" and they're rowing like less than half of what Dorian is. Powerlifters for decades have known that bigger, stronger lifters do way less volume than smaller ones, not because they want to do less, but because they can't or they'll die. Somehow this is still a mystery for hypertrophy guys.
Women train less than men for a whole different reason, get a man and a woman with identical genetics (in theory) and experience/weights, she recovers faster, estrogen does that @@dp70939
Also...the pro bodybuilder's definition of muscular failure (maybe powerlifters and strongmen too) may be a lot different compared to a person who pursues lifting weights as a past time. I never even thought that it'd be possible to have your gym shirt drenched in sweat from merely lifting weights (unless training for endurance) but it somehow is a thing. Twist that T-shirt which is drenched and somehow sweat just pours out of them
Mike's so arrogant. He criticized Colemans workouts and also said if he had trained properly, he'd be bigger and have won more. Like ronnie is the goat dude. There's so many flaws with science backed training and the studies they conduct. Certainly they have their place but for this dude whose 5'5 on tons of peds apparently the most knowledgeable guy in the world to insinuate that guys like Yates, Coleman, and LeBron James don't know how to train is so egomanical
@@sammyttheg412are you okay? They arent gods they're human, Mike always says that these guys are WAYYY better than him but could be better, thinking that theyre infallible is crazy. Edit, nvm youve been commenting on mikes videos for a while now saying the same shit because you have nothing better to do 🤣
@@sammyttheg412 take a chill pill, there is no way to know that what Mike is saying is true or false, we cant re-run the Ronnie Coleman experiment in a different universe. So you're just as "arrogant" for saying he's full of shit. This is just bullshitting on youtube. Who cares.
Awesome breakdown. Perfect balance of respect for a pioneer with appropriate critiques and insight. This easily could’ve sounded like you were bashing a legend but, like always, you hit the sweet spot. Thanks for the awesome content, as always!!!
Dorian is the GOAT no matter what current science says. He basically mastered technique and intensity, he is the pinnacle of discipline that almost no one has anymore
@@keithlilly6242ronnie is not goat because he trained super heavy like an idiot and became disabled at old age. I would say the goat is Either lee haney or Dorian.
All he does is name drop other successful people to get clicks to sell ad space while his own physique is mid. He puts out a critiquing Sam Sulek video every week.
I had the exact same experience and I’m not at all a bodybuilder, just a 37 year old dude who took a long break from working out. I’m getting back into shape and I’ve started owning hypertrophy training and am getting the best, quickest results for me that I’ve ever gotten. Thanks dr Mike! I recommend this channel to everyone.
@@James-vv9dp ah yes, the infallible unquestionable big-brained Dr Mike, aka the White Yakub of fitness! Even 6x Olympian Dorian Yates should know his role in the presence of Dr Mike!
Like Louie Simmons said: "If you're a crazy person, you have to go crazy in the gym!". Not everybody is like the average gym goer: do what works for YOU!
Blood and Guts! I was a HUGE fan back in the day when he was competing and modeled my own training after his and Mike Mentzer and Ellington Darden. I even bought Dorian's Blood and Guts book back in 93 or 94!
Mike, you have become a staple in what information I allow into my stream and incorporate into my life daily. Of all the great content you post i found your genius behind the scenes in Jesse James amateur bb comp video. Now I watch everything you got. Slow eccentrics and pause at the bottom doc! Maybe santa will bring me the RP hypertrophy app! Peace -hOrTy-
My favorite story is how the guy who took those famous black and white photographs actually worked for Joe Wieder and basically took the photos as a favor to Dorian. Then they turned out so great that when he got back to California he'd leave the photos out on his desk, and every time an Olympia-level bodybuilder would visit that building where Joe had his office the photographer would just go "Hey have you seen these photos i took of Dorian a week ago? Turned out pretty good if i say so myself" and those guys would just think "... Well, gotta train harder to make sure i got a shot at 2nd place"
Interesting take. I was lifting during this time period and this was a great ride down memory road. Dorian was always touted for his legs and lats from what i remember. Great inspiration.
Blood and guts, regardless of efficacy, has most likely been used to amp up millions of guys before their workouts over the years. Dorian is a legend, great podcast guest/host, real gem of a guy 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@steveb6718 Though also keep in mind that there's so much variation between people. Like in some studies, people with similar backgrounds had diff reactions to diff amounts of volume. Some did just as well with low volume, while others needed higher volume. Plus, how strong is someone, how long have they trained, how physically large are their muscles, how well are other parts of their recovery like sleep, are they on gear, etc. Like Dr. Mike says here, for someone who is huge already their biggest muscles maybe can be trained 1 or 2 days a week, but smaller muscles may be a diff story, and also potentially diff for smaller/weaker people. And some people just plain recover better than others do. IMO, the best thing is just being open to trying diff techniques and adjusting as needed.
@@ShawnFumo but, since 99.9% of people are not professional athletes, and are not going to run multiple compounds/gear at the same time, train for fun and enjoy it and get results as fast as possible... so, if 1 set can do it, why bother with 3 or 6? if 1 set gets you 90+% of all the gains, why bother with more? you're not becoming Mr O and not running trent/dbol/deca/anavar/winstrol etc... Dr Mike runs loads of gear and with all his science, loaded up on the covid vaccine, so, as studies have shown us, you can prove anything with the right money backing you
I think Dr Mike confuses symmetry and proportions with a "nice shape". Dorian was symmetrical and proportioned in all three dimensions. His competitors often had discrepancies like narrow shoulders, short legs or high lat insertions, etc...but often had a more "pleasing shape". Injury and illness certainly took their toll on his form at the end, though.
Blood and Guts is hands down THE best pro bodybuilder training video ever produced. From the choice of it being black and white, the awesome training displayed down to the yelling of his training partner..... heck if we had someone like that at our sides we all would be training way harder..... "We are going to WAR!!! No mercy, no prisoners!!!"
Just read his shadow book. Not massively into bodybuilding as a whole I just like to train but the blokes my hero. Just his work ethic and his working class routes. I love how he sees bodybuilding as going to work. You walk into a gym and it’s like being on love island. Women walking round with hardly anything on posing and videoing themselves and the blokes are even worse. Standing with a string vest and permed hair. I love Dorian’s approach of going to the gym, busting a gut covered up no massive ego or vanity. Just go in train and get out. It’s his honesty I follow. I want to add the reason he didn’t train more than 3-4 days is because he said his training declined when he did.
Respect to you. Im not a writer, I moved to Aldrich near walsal in 1990 to be near the big explosive time. A clean at 19 stone. Dorian, Dan Dushane, ultimate orange. i got to 24 stone smoothe. Diesel is an inspiration. A champion. respect, he taught me dicipline and to note things to paper. i did have both hipps replaced and a shoulder
Love to see a video on that dogcrap (sp?) style of training that kinda took off in the mid 2000s. Seems like an offshoot of Dorian’s style of training mixed with deep stretching.
This video is both informative and entertaining. Thank you. Watching your stuff during cardio as a passtime and take the tips and try to apply them in the gym when hitting the weights. 46 year old dad and grandfather working out with friends and alone to stay fit and keep up with my boys at their sporting practice and events. Not a real bodybuilder here at all yet your content is both fun and helpfull. God bless sir.
I suspect that Mentzer was so tied up in his theory that it slowed his adaptation into what worked. Yates wasn’t defending a theory so much as training like a madman.
@@steelmongoose4956No, Yates took it to a next level of SANITY. Meaning, he took the best of Mentzer and adapted it to his own optimal program. Mentzer recommended so many rest days after a workout that you'd only hit each part once every two weeks depending on your split. Usually 1-2 days per week, depending on which video you see because he changed his ideals over the years, which is understandable. But the older he got, the more rest days he added after a workout. Yates did it 4 days a week basically. So, he still got decent volume. Most of Yates videos I've seen actually look a bit LESS in intensity than the videos I've seen of Mentzer training someone. Not a lot less, but enough that you'd recognize it. Yates did not seem to do as many forced reps, static holds, negatives. He did them, just a bit less than Mentzer trained people on
Because hes being paid not to. The entire youtube algorithm is geared against Mike . Mike is the ultimate counter to an industry that wants all tour time and money. Mike is the only Goat IMO. He took arthurs work and applied to to Himself and other monsters like Dorian.
@@real_talk8749 i respect Mike but i think his training routine is just not right, like training a muscle group just twice a month there's no enough volume to grow, and prefer dorians routine and also follow it.
@erykaldo2l270 they already killed mike, now they are after every red cent in your pocket as well as trying to waste as much time you have in the gym cranking out volume. A healthy fit society is a hard society to get over on. Mikes information allows everyday people with jobs and families to remain fit and vigilant. A fit class of people can resist. An unfit weak and dying group of people cannot resist. They capitulate.
I’ve been doing full ROM , controlled eccentric , asynchronous and autoregulated training Since I started going to the gym 20 years ago. Good to know I was on to something. Thanks for a great channel ❤
Briefly, if Dorian had better shape in arms and belly he would be the greatest by far... and it's almost quite right being honest... if "shape gods" trained more like him for period of times they would have won... everyone should do both training styles Dorian and the others... P.s.: dorian is not my favourite bb... shawn kevin flex and chris i prefer way more... but I'm simply being objective
7:50 and here starts gibberish. In 10+ years of training that produced top class results, an athlete improves little by little his method. The method is forged by trial and error. Dorian have trained with higher frequency in the beginning so that "5 days/week" magic recipe from dude trainer was used at some point and discarded at some point.
If you’re not on TRT or Roids don’t do high volume training. You won’t grow. Most people don’t have super human T. Train 2-4 days a week 30-45min super high intensity to complete failure. That’s the key
I am 50 and only do a few exercises per muscle and do one set per exercise and I am growing in strength and size and I am a experienced lifter. Some People would say how can you get gains doing and I think answer is simple it's the intensity I use. I am growing more than when I did about 4 sets per exercise doing each body part twice a week yes I did look very toned but wasn't growing. I grew more when I was training less. Doing less sets for me works better maybe when I thought I was a hard gainer I was just over training.
I started lifting weights at 36 y/o. At that age most men would say your natural T is fairly low. I have gone from 73 kg to 97 kg in three years using high volume training.
@@eivindgjengstjohansen9625Arnold was also genetically gifted. He was huge even at the age of 15. Not to mention steroid use. Your average gym bro can’t sustain working out 6 days a week twice a day. Frank Zane, Tom Platz, Dorian Yates, and Mike M. all trained with low volume and high intensity with amazing gains to show for it.
That's no true at all, it all comes down to what works for you. There's not some golden workout that works for everyone. The science is always there but how that science applies to you is person dependent. I can do 6 week program of slow, methodical, deep stretch reps of 10-15 and grow. I can also do 6 weeks of heavy 4-8 rep sets and grow. It's about how you lift
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You had a video glamorising Brad Shoenfeld, a "scientist" who studies volume and HIT failure training while not even knowing what true failure is...
Look up his failure videos. It's pathetic.
Now you're criticizing Dorian Yates/ HIT lol. Why should this video have any credibility?
Next video look at Nicholas Meregali's training as he recently posted his lifting.
If you lift 2x per week... you left too much in the tank the first time.
oi oi bruv fish an chips moit innit!!!
@@yipperdeyip His criticisms were very mild, though. It was more of a fanboy vid, really lol.
Dorian Yates not knowing how many days he trains in a week reminds me of the classic bodybuilding forum fight about the length of a week
8 day weeks are goated for training
lmaooooooooooo I just read that post
I've always just done rolling weeks depending on what my split needed. Usually it ended up a "8 day week" with something like gym, gym, gym, rest, gym, gym, gym, rest.
7 is just such an odd number to work with.
"3.5 days a week? What do you do, a half workout or something? lol"
Not as good as the argument that 45 lb plates aren't 45 lbs because of the hole in the middle.
I got to meet Dorian when I was 22 (1997) and in the best shape of my life. I went to a meet and greet in Sacramento with a couple of really jacked dudes and he simply dwarfed us all in comparison. But, he was incredibly personable and pretty humble for who he was at the time. They say “Never meet your heroes” but I was glad I got to meet Dorian at his peak. Super cool dude and really fun to talk with.
Dorian's ability to transition to a health life post-bodybuilding may be one of his most impressive qualities. He's managed to stay in shape, age well and maintain mobility, meanwhile most of his contemporaries either died tragically young or developed terrible joint issues.
That's crazy, I can't imagine the feeling and the next training session you must've had!
@@JordaanM there’s a youtube video where he’s interviewed about steroid use and he details how he cycled properly rather than just smashing it and how guys today are taking multiples of what he used. It’s interesting viewing.
LOL duh... Dorian was at his peak 260lbs ripped to the bone, Mr o winners level quality of muscle... of course hes going to make you look small... these guys are freaks of nature and this is there full time job at the highest level
If 99.9999% of the population stood next to Dorian, Ronnie, Phil etc.. there going to make them look like children
Dorian was pressing so smooth that you could have drawn a Smith machine around him and it would have looked that vertical
At first i thought he used a Smith machine. Then he racked the bar :D
@@fabianhubner5007 hahaha even his breathing sounded like a chain moving up and down a frame
Chuck Norris once incline benched even smoother than that and a man named Mr. Smith paid Chuck to let him call his machine the "Smith Machine" and not the "Norris Machine".....
@@Simon-talks
Nice try.
that was exactly what went through my mind when i saw that , perfect pressing.
Dorian said himself that he did increase his training to 5 days and his progress slowed then came to a halt. When he went back to less volume he got bigger and stronger again.
When I started working out, I joined the only local gym in town that was frequented by 3 national champs and several others who looked to break into that sphere, too. Only I had no idea about who they were and knew nothing about working out. So U did what the trainer told me to do, went through all beginner phases and did all I was told.
Worked out 4 times a week, and at the beginning, did some progress, just like everyone else who starts doing this thing. But nothing to write home about.
Then I had to trim my number if workouts to 3, sometimes even two a week, and shorten them, too because of my other commitments.
And almost immediately guys started to see gains on me, especially shoulders and arms - I did those only once a week because I thought my back, chest and legs need more workouts. But as I continued with this schedule, the progress on chest, legs and back was slower than the other two areas, and that made me realize that maybe I should reverse my schedule and try to do chest, back and legs only once a week and arms and shoulders twice.
And the effect was exactly as I thought it would be.
Since then, I employed rather short routines with high intensity, knowing nothing about Mike Mentzer's HIT, and even too guys in the gym who worked out sometimes even twice a day, 5 times a week, were literally flabbergasted by my progress where they stagnated.
Ever since then, I've always stuck with short, super high intensity gym sessions with no breaks in between the sets, mostly two sets of each, and I was out of gym in 35 minutes.
Later, I incorporated Sergio Oliva routine crossed with Mike Mentzer's style, and that's when I looked the best I've ever did. That was around my 28-30 age. Then I had to stop because of my intense job hours, and was just very opportunistic and infrequent in my workouts.
I'm now 64, and still in decent shape, but want to find time to do this again at least twice a week because if it's huge health benefits to me at the time (I was never sick in ten years I've done it, very strong relative to my size and weight yet still athletic and flexible enough to do other sports..
I'm a huge fan of short, super intense workouts. It gives you everything you could ever ask for in bodybuilding.
@@mitsanut5869So let me be clear on your most effective split.
You went 3 days a week. With 1 day of compound work (Chest or Back or Legs) and then 2 days of arm isolation work? I think that's certainly sensible. Relative to the other parts of the body the arms are quite small and therefore require less recovery than say your legs or back or chest would.
@@mitsanut5869I'll give it a try, see what works. Perhaps I'll hit arms/shoulders on monday and friday and then hit legs/chest/back on wednesday. Currently I'm more of a 4 days of rest sort of guy and it's been giving me solid progress. It's worth a try to apply the idea that since certain muscles recover FAR faster that it justifies working them more often. But on the other hand I question if it would impact the ability of my larger muscles to have enough recoverability to not just maintain itself but grow.
@@mitsanut5869What was Serge’s training routine? Which parts did you take?
@@vToneehh He always combined chest and back, and shoulders and arms into one huge superset with no rest in between. So he would start chest set followed by back set followed by another chest set and so on. The only rest you could get with his routine was basically the few seconds between switching the machines or weights.
He also had similar routine like me in terms of which exercises he did for his muscle groups, so I decided that I would go for it. It was absolutely the most brutal routine I've ever done. You go for broke in super high tempo with most weight you can put on while not sacrificing technique, and you always are under pressure in both ends of the exercise (push and resistance), trying to explode with the first phase and then go back on resistance for at least 4-6 seconds. You absolutely need a partner for that routine.
The whole routine (for example back and chest) in each separate session would take roughly about 35 minutes plus about 10 minutes of warm up with very small weights.
On this routine, I saw the biggest increase of not only my strength but also in my physical appearance. You strategically target certain muscle groups and bind them together because that's where they experience biggest blood flow adjacent to the area you directly work out, if that makes sense.
I had incredible results with his routine in just three months.
I never aspired to compete, so it wasn't even done in it's totality as he did it. I left out some of his more detailed routine oriented sessions because I didn't have the time or the desire to compete.
But just the switch from "normal" routine to this absolute insanity (in my view) brought incredible results. There are some details that I would have to go over that one has to pay attention to when doing this, but I think to this day that if I have the time available again to go to gym on regular basis, I'd do this and only this routine again without any doubt. It's the most physically and mentally rewarding routine I've ever done.
Actually, Dorian HAD ALREADY BEEN TRAINING 5 DAYS A WEEK , for a YEAR, then he met Mike Mentzer, and Mike recommended him to stop working out 5 days a week. And when Dorian STOPPED, and went to 4 days a week, HE BLEW UP!!!!!
I am not Dorian Yates and this is purely anecdotal I have also blown up from going from 5 to 4 days a week. It's the biggest single difference maker I've ever tried. I've also put about 12kg on my working sets for bench press in three months. Would recommend it for absolutely anyone who is 2+ years in the gym.
Nope. He blew up because he took more drugs at that point.
@@rowananderson8318Sure...sure...😂
@@Rob-qn6odnope
@@sirjerryson4349 Yep. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Didn't Dorian refused to share information about his training because he thought it would give even a slightest advantage to his opponents. Dude was crazy competitive
Rightly so. He knew he wasn't as genetically gifted as some of the other pros at the time. Needed every advantage he could get.
@@AScaryOrange123 bullshit all of them were genetically gifted competing with each other their genetic potential was super close barely any difference between em.
"Come On Diesel, Let's Get Busy!!"
@@QuartzTech He doesn't mean in size, He mean insertions and bone structure.
@@asdfgasdfgasdfgq i didnt say size
Blood and Guts video: Dorian Yates
Blood and Guts audio: Leroy Davis
I work with Leroy. He’s a cool man and still trains hard
@@CnutLongsword I have. The solution is right in front of you, my son.
Dorian's training partner has the most swole vocal cords with all the yelling.
Leroy
Never skipped vocal day!
Leroy is the best workout partner of all time
Dude was a LEGEND
NASTY CHRISTMAS TREES! IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME, C'MON!!!
Dorian is a legend in bodybuilding and also how he rethought / changed / rebooted his life after his bodbuilding career. He is now all pilates, yoga, breathing, everything that is focused on longevity rather than muscle. And from the looks of it, he is successful.
did the start smoking pot too? pretty cool haha
Agree 100% with this. When I was training in the 90's, Dorian was my hero. I was never nearly as big, but for a guy who ran his whole life into his 30's THEN started the muscle thing, I got a lot of gains following his plans in Muscle and Fitness magazine. I was a fan of all the body builders mentioned in this vid, but it was Dorian who stood out for his physique, commitment, and authenticity. Props.
Just an interesting story I heard from my work manager. (he used to compete on an amateur level in the 90’s and actually trained with Cormier, Shawn, Serg Nubret, etc.) He said in the 90’s he went to see Dorian guest pose. He never seen him in person and only saw him in magazines. When Dorian came out he said Dorian didn’t look anything “crazy” or “wild”. (This was offseason btw). BUT, when Dorian hit his first pose, my manager said “it looked like pose after pose he was blowing up and turning into this freakish monster”. My manager was shocked and in awe. The best way he described it as was “seeing a gorilla full of muscle with all his fur shaved off”. Crazy to think how dorian must have looked. I’m too young to have seen the 90’s guys in person but man crazy shit.
I saw them all at muscle beach & Marina athletic club in 1994-6 and it was wild. I was working out hard and given respect and then these huge monsters would walk up and I’d be in awe. (Update: Like, mouth hung open, Lee Haney or Yates or somebody mind-blowing like that just getting a workout in or doing a top photo shoot. I’m flashing back now!)
Meet many of them in Cleveland at a NPC shows. Got to talk to him and others and got a signed photo. He was the guest poser, was just huge beyond your imagination. I believe his weigh was 280. But just huge.
You guys are damn lucky. I’m 30 and was just a baby when these legends were competing. I wish I could have seen them in person. It must have been breathtaking.
@@giovanir69 sorry yeah you missed a hell of an era. I started training back in 1969. I started buying and collecting magazines from the 70-80& 90s
I had, Mr America. Muscle Builder,
Strength & Health. Muscle Mag.
MD-Muscle Development, Flex,
Iron Man, so many. I still have a collection from 1989 about 2015 then most if not all stopped being printed.
Some of the greatest photos and training routines ever printed.
Unfortunately now the past. It’s all You-Tube stuff just not the same anymore!
Believe, my friend...I met him in 1997 and it was absolutely shocking. Pics, videos, nothing do him justice. The guys forearms , thighs and calves were his best bodyparts . The back was just a nice dd-on. He was an absolute beast, over 300 lbs at 5 ft 9
Dorian Yates was genetically gifted, gym owner offered him free membership to encourage further workouts. He was poor, living in subsidized apartment, had criminal record,
had to work hard physically and then train while not having much money to eat. Dorian's training methods came from life reality and limitation on time and resources. He gave
us a glimmer of hope, that with hard work, discipline and maximum effort one can improve his physique immensely. For over 10 years he lived like a monk, not interacting
socially, not seeking pleasures of this world. He maximized everything to achieve a success and to become a living legend of bodybuilding.
Thanks for telling us the story he has already told us
I’m nitpicking now, but I believe he’s said he had girlfriends back then? So not quite like a monk.
@@davidiglesias9549 why didnt you just say you Hate White people.
What is meaning of success? How do you know when you have achieved success??
Was still able to afford steroids though
Dorian was one of the all time best. He thought outside the box and figured out what worked best for him regardless of what everyone else was doing.
That's what Bruce Lee recommended to only use what works for you and leave out what doesn't work
Is he from Birmingham too I’d love to train with him
Dorian Yates would do the lat spread, that felt like it took 20 seconds to fully open, the show would be over. He looked like a super hero to me as a kid. Great work, Doc Mike 👍🏾
I’ll take DY’s advice. He’s earned it, and more importantly he’s healthy living his best life!!
You know that he tore multiple muscles in his career right?
@@steveroonie37 yes. and he’s still thriving. He has admitted to making mistakes along the way, now he teaches how to avoid his mistakes. Imagine the amount of weight he had to lift to become a Champion, we’re not likely to lift even half of that.
One of his regrets regarding injury was not realising he needed to ease off while starving himself.
He has written down and published every training session from 83 to 97.
- He was first stuck at some point and when he lowered the volume down he started to grow again.
- When he tried to increase the volume later on he got stuck again.
- He did bicep-back tricep-chest in different training days, so he was still training biceps and tricep 2 times a week in his interpretation.
- He got the biggest calves ever training it once a week with very very heavy weights.
That is basically doing scientific experiment on one self. I have found the same things to be true.
So you say that reducing volume helps @@joojotin
Welcome to HIT working out once a week and rest for 7 days.
@@Vrory77 That doesnt define HIT tho. I consider my program HIT but train fullbody every other day.
He upped the dosage to past plateaus. The training had very little to do with it.
When I was a kid, I was obsessed with Conan the barbarian. I wanted to look like Arnold.
But the first time I saw Dorian on the cover of a bodybuilding magazine at the bookstore, I couldn't believe a person could look like that. Instantly hooked on bodybuilding. Legend.
DR MIKE WE NEED THE TOM PLATZ CRITIQUE!!!! Need to know what you think of the Quadfather
Yes!
Yes!
And if he’s doing Tom Platz, then let’s go with Lee Priest (before the tattoos 😁)
I think there is a video regarding platz and the low volume training. If i remember correctly it goes something like this: if muscle gain and hyperthrophy is the goal: train more frequently, and more than one or two working sets..
Agreed
Mostly he’s full of shit and gear
From another interview Dorian says his 45 minutes did not include warms ups.
Your approach to this was extremely humble and very informative. As always, your content is fantastic 💪🏼
Dude's posing was on point. Somehow he made all that absurd mass look graceful.
His posing never gets enough credit. You could almost hear him hit a pose
Dorian's Blood & Guts" is the greatest training video of all time. I have it on VHS. (I bought it when it first came out)
"Come On Diesel, Let's Get Busy!!" Leroy is awesome.
"SHOW DEM WHY YOU"RE NUMBER ONE!"
What a training partner to have.
Squiiize!!
Exactly just finished the 6 weeks protocol
Let's get nasty!
That clip of Dr. Mike doing a Birmingham accent in a Peaky Blinders cutout costume belongs in some kind of hall of fame. A+
That doesn't sound like anyone from Birmingham who I've ever met! 😆
Sounds more like a scouser
It's not a brummie accent. It's not even the piss poor imitation of a brummie accent that we hear in Peaky Blinders. BTW, every, but every, hard man in Britain sewed a razor blade in the peak of his cap. Scottish soldiers used to sew them in their glengarries.
German Grand Prix 96 - when I saw pictures and footage of him back then I fell in love with the sport. Idc if he hadn't had the best structure or workout plan but his fking mindset ... he was just raw, pure animal instinct when he was in his gym.
16:24 Agree 100% on the lying bench curl for the biceps! They have long been a stubborn muscle for me and this variation has absolutely blown my biceps up
I’ve met Kevin Levrone in person at Exile Fitness in Maryland. He’s real chill. An amazing presence when he’s in the gym. Gonna see Ronnie Coleman this weekend. True inspirations.
Doc, please give the editor a raise. Idc how much he's making, you + him is just gold😂😂🙏🏿
"size of an industrial refrigerator" and "dildo curls" were great 💀
I think people dont understand that when doing hypertrophy training (failure/near failure)with 400lb- 500lb plus weights set after set you cant recover easily. Absolutely the bigger and stronger the harder to recover.
I've met Dorian and this is what he was saying all the time. The more advanced you are the more you need to recover. Your cns doesn't increase but it gets used just a bit
Exactly. But you have gymbros going "Dorian trained like this and he's the GOAT so fuck your evidence-based training" and they're rowing like less than half of what Dorian is. Powerlifters for decades have known that bigger, stronger lifters do way less volume than smaller ones, not because they want to do less, but because they can't or they'll die. Somehow this is still a mystery for hypertrophy guys.
@@MicheldiedWeightlifters too. Chinese protocol is ..... women train more frequently than men, and small men more frequently than large ones.
Women train less than men for a whole different reason, get a man and a woman with identical genetics (in theory) and experience/weights, she recovers faster, estrogen does that @@dp70939
Also...the pro bodybuilder's definition of muscular failure (maybe powerlifters and strongmen too) may be a lot different compared to a person who pursues lifting weights as a past time.
I never even thought that it'd be possible to have your gym shirt drenched in sweat from merely lifting weights (unless training for endurance) but it somehow is a thing.
Twist that T-shirt which is drenched and somehow sweat just pours out of them
The commentary on this video is legendary. I really needed the laugh today more than anything else. Cheers lad 😅
Next Tom platz leg day review please
And Ronnie Coleman workout review
This
It would also be awesome if he reviewed Kevin Levrone.
Ronnie Coleman review... as Ronnie Coleman.
MORE!!!! KILL ME!!!!
Branch Warren review
Imagine how many Olympias Dorian could have won if only he had known about the Science of 52 sets of lengthened partials
😂😂😂😂
Mike's so arrogant. He criticized Colemans workouts and also said if he had trained properly, he'd be bigger and have won more. Like ronnie is the goat dude. There's so many flaws with science backed training and the studies they conduct. Certainly they have their place but for this dude whose 5'5 on tons of peds apparently the most knowledgeable guy in the world to insinuate that guys like Yates, Coleman, and LeBron James don't know how to train is so egomanical
😂😂😂😂😂 was waiting for that - you nailed it straight !!
@@sammyttheg412are you okay? They arent gods they're human, Mike always says that these guys are WAYYY better than him but could be better, thinking that theyre infallible is crazy. Edit, nvm youve been commenting on mikes videos for a while now saying the same shit because you have nothing better to do 🤣
@@sammyttheg412 take a chill pill, there is no way to know that what Mike is saying is true or false, we cant re-run the Ronnie Coleman experiment in a different universe. So you're just as "arrogant" for saying he's full of shit. This is just bullshitting on youtube. Who cares.
intro had so much aura
aura what the fuck
Hell Yeah
@@RePaperBag New type of brainrot, you get used to it
@@RePaperBag +10000 aura skibbidy ong no cap
We’re not doing that here. Gtfoh
Awesome breakdown. Perfect balance of respect for a pioneer with appropriate critiques and insight. This easily could’ve sounded like you were bashing a legend but, like always, you hit the sweet spot. Thanks for the awesome content, as always!!!
Dr Mike, I love your channel bro. Keep up the great content👍🏿
Dorian Yates is my favourite bodybuilder ❤
Introvert, just grinding his way through towards greatness
Would love for Dr. Mike to do a full 90s bodybuilding series maybe even 2000s, to shine a light on all the heroes of old
Dorian is the GOAT no matter what current science says. He basically mastered technique and intensity, he is the pinnacle of discipline that almost no one has anymore
He is a trailblazer but Ronnie is the goat. Of course we talking about something very subjective
Your opinion < modern science. Nice try though idiot.
@@keithlilly6242ronnie is not goat because he trained super heavy like an idiot and became disabled at old age. I would say the goat is Either lee haney or Dorian.
@@NicoleJoa the Real Goat is still Schwarzenegger
@@NicoleJoa tbf, the HIT training Dorian did literally ended his career to the point he had to stop weight training entirely.
what a great vid! loved the comments in between the dorian exercises
Best Christmas tree and conditioning all time. Plus he seems like such a real dude. Why Dorian is my favorite.
Been on your channel about 2 months Dr Mike, the info you impart and the quality of the content is unrivalled. Very much helping me in my training.
All he does is name drop other successful people to get clicks to sell ad space while his own physique is mid. He puts out a critiquing Sam Sulek video every week.
I had the exact same experience and I’m not at all a bodybuilder, just a 37 year old dude who took a long break from working out. I’m getting back into shape and I’ve started owning hypertrophy training and am getting the best, quickest results for me that I’ve ever gotten. Thanks dr Mike! I recommend this channel to everyone.
@@michaelshine6060you'd get it without watching him lol. He's changed nothing in body-building. It's just marketing.
@@libertarianpunk8558 grow up
@@James-vv9dp ah yes, the infallible unquestionable big-brained Dr Mike, aka the White Yakub of fitness! Even 6x Olympian Dorian Yates should know his role in the presence of Dr Mike!
Like Louie Simmons said: "If you're a crazy person, you have to go crazy in the gym!".
Not everybody is like the average gym goer: do what works for YOU!
He had an insane pirate training buddy.
I've been waiting for this 🏆
Blood and Guts! I was a HUGE fan back in the day when he was competing and modeled my own training after his and Mike Mentzer and Ellington Darden. I even bought Dorian's Blood and Guts book back in 93 or 94!
Leroy Davis' vocal training partner style has gotta be a factor. Those videos are amazing.
Yes, I saw Lee Haney & Dorian Yates in person and it was phenomenal. You could see every fiber.
0:35 this kind of optimism is truly inspiring
Mike, you have become a staple in what information I allow into my stream and incorporate into my life daily. Of all the great content you post i found your genius behind the scenes in Jesse James amateur bb comp video. Now I watch everything you got.
Slow eccentrics and pause at the bottom doc! Maybe santa will bring me the RP hypertrophy app!
Peace
-hOrTy-
Brother, one of the things I like the best about you is yeah you’re humble -,reminds us all sometimes we can do the same. Great stuff…
My favorite story is how the guy who took those famous black and white photographs actually worked for Joe Wieder and basically took the photos as a favor to Dorian. Then they turned out so great that when he got back to California he'd leave the photos out on his desk, and every time an Olympia-level bodybuilder would visit that building where Joe had his office the photographer would just go "Hey have you seen these photos i took of Dorian a week ago? Turned out pretty good if i say so myself" and those guys would just think "... Well, gotta train harder to make sure i got a shot at 2nd place"
Interesting take. I was lifting during this time period and this was a great ride down memory road. Dorian was always touted for his legs and lats from what i remember. Great inspiration.
yes his legs were teh most surprising thing in the flesh. biggest I have ever seen
@@patrickmurphy5842 A lot of folk think his legs look average but I agree with both of you his legs are extremely well developed and big.
Love the humility and respect for Dorian’s results.
Thanks for the class, doc.
I figured out how to tweak his approach for continuous long term gains for naturals. Thanks, Dorian!
Blood and guts, regardless of efficacy, has most likely been used to amp up millions of guys before their workouts over the years. Dorian is a legend, great podcast guest/host, real gem of a guy 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I like his views on WW2.
Truly Based historian.
HIT works... most don't do it correctly
What? It’s been my best program to follow
@@steveb6718 Though also keep in mind that there's so much variation between people. Like in some studies, people with similar backgrounds had diff reactions to diff amounts of volume. Some did just as well with low volume, while others needed higher volume. Plus, how strong is someone, how long have they trained, how physically large are their muscles, how well are other parts of their recovery like sleep, are they on gear, etc.
Like Dr. Mike says here, for someone who is huge already their biggest muscles maybe can be trained 1 or 2 days a week, but smaller muscles may be a diff story, and also potentially diff for smaller/weaker people. And some people just plain recover better than others do. IMO, the best thing is just being open to trying diff techniques and adjusting as needed.
@@ShawnFumo but, since 99.9% of people are not professional athletes, and are not going to run multiple compounds/gear at the same time, train for fun and enjoy it and get results as fast as possible... so, if 1 set can do it, why bother with 3 or 6? if 1 set gets you 90+% of all the gains, why bother with more? you're not becoming Mr O and not running trent/dbol/deca/anavar/winstrol etc...
Dr Mike runs loads of gear and with all his science, loaded up on the covid vaccine, so, as studies have shown us, you can prove anything with the right money backing you
I think Dr Mike confuses symmetry and proportions with a "nice shape". Dorian was symmetrical and proportioned in all three dimensions. His competitors often had discrepancies like narrow shoulders, short legs or high lat insertions, etc...but often had a more "pleasing shape". Injury and illness certainly took their toll on his form at the end, though.
Sports science of Dorian is as achilles would say..there is no pact between lions and men,he was on a totally different stratosphere...period
Yey, i have been doing 3 on 1 off since the beginning and it feels so good that i never changed it. Good to hear Dr. Mike agreeing
given it alot of thought and i think this is my favorite of your critique videos
I just started following this plan just a few weeks ago crazy to see you upload this now, im ready to hear the whole thing get shit on
Blood and Guts is hands down THE best pro bodybuilder training video ever produced. From the choice of it being black and white, the awesome training displayed down to the yelling of his training partner..... heck if we had someone like that at our sides we all would be training way harder..... "We are going to WAR!!! No mercy, no prisoners!!!"
Just read his shadow book. Not massively into bodybuilding as a whole I just like to train but the blokes my hero. Just his work ethic and his working class routes. I love how he sees bodybuilding as going to work. You walk into a gym and it’s like being on love island. Women walking round with hardly anything on posing and videoing themselves and the blokes are even worse. Standing with a string vest and permed hair. I love Dorian’s approach of going to the gym, busting a gut covered up no massive ego or vanity. Just go in train and get out. It’s his honesty I follow. I want to add the reason he didn’t train more than 3-4 days is because he said his training declined when he did.
Dorian’s blood and guts training program leveled me up like crazy when I was in my 20s. Such a great program.
But you're small...😂
Thanks for your delivery and info.
Dorian was out there like " AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!"
Thanks to Mike the Goat Mentzer. Mentzer got dorian out of a 2 year plateau
Shut it, weeb
I love your channel, dude, thank you!
Dorian had the best trainer partner in history. The way he would scream at him constantly
All for the cameras. He didn't do that in real life.
@@Rob-qn6od oh shut up you hater
@@dailymotivtion Facts don't care about your emotions.
@@Rob-qn6odlmao we got a cuck shapiro fanboy over here
@@Rob-qn6odI doubt that I’m sure he did they trained hard. And had that underground dungeon gym to themselves so they could
I've never come across your channel before. Really good. Like the style
Respect to you. Im not a writer, I moved to Aldrich near walsal in 1990 to be near the big explosive time. A clean at 19 stone.
Dorian, Dan Dushane, ultimate orange. i got to 24 stone smoothe.
Diesel is an inspiration. A champion. respect, he taught me dicipline and to note things to paper. i did have both hipps replaced and a shoulder
Love to see a video on that dogcrap (sp?) style of training that kinda took off in the mid 2000s. Seems like an offshoot of Dorian’s style of training mixed with deep stretching.
th-cam.com/video/03p5JZ4ViIA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T_UpBK-jPcOigc07
If that link gets deleted, type in dusty hanshaw dc training
I did Dorian's style of training for years, obtained/watched "Blood And Guts", saw Dorian guest pose in 96'(oh shit!) and met him twice!
I get symmetry wise the genetics comments, but he was muscular before he touched a weight. Definitely blessed.
This video is both informative and entertaining. Thank you. Watching your stuff during cardio as a passtime and take the tips and try to apply them in the gym when hitting the weights. 46 year old dad and grandfather working out with friends and alone to stay fit and keep up with my boys at their sporting practice and events. Not a real bodybuilder here at all yet your content is both fun and helpfull. God bless sir.
Good vid. Quality review and v.entertaining
Dude the intro alone, captivating!
Very respectful video from Dr Mike.
Great thoughts on why some of DY's bodyparts may have been trained differently to be even better.
I've been waiting for this! Everyone talks about Mentzer but Dorian won the Olympia, to me Dorian figured out HIT training
I suspect that Mentzer was so tied up in his theory that it slowed his adaptation into what worked. Yates wasn’t defending a theory so much as training like a madman.
@@steelmongoose4956 From what I've seen on youtube, it seems Dorian incorporated some of Mentzer's training concepts.
@@MrLokky87 Yeah, there was a definite influence. Yates just took the intensity to another level of insanity.
@@steelmongoose4956No, Yates took it to a next level of SANITY. Meaning, he took the best of Mentzer and adapted it to his own optimal program. Mentzer recommended so many rest days after a workout that you'd only hit each part once every two weeks depending on your split. Usually 1-2 days per week, depending on which video you see because he changed his ideals over the years, which is understandable. But the older he got, the more rest days he added after a workout.
Yates did it 4 days a week basically. So, he still got decent volume.
Most of Yates videos I've seen actually look a bit LESS in intensity than the videos I've seen of Mentzer training someone. Not a lot less, but enough that you'd recognize it. Yates did not seem to do as many forced reps, static holds, negatives. He did them, just a bit less than Mentzer trained people on
12:52 Yeah man I think he had at least 2 reps in him
If only you had no picture and no posts lol
He hut fsilire, maybes it more weight then previous week, and the mans not in a will chair like ronnie, on resting in protein like rich Pianna
Excellent video as always.
One of your best videos out of many bangers⚡️Big ups🇬🇧
damn what an intro
A bit cringe to say but, the intro give me goosebumps.
listening to his audios from soundcloud in the gym keeps me sane
There are audios of D Mike in soundcloud?
@@kasperisaukkonen doriyan yates, idk why someone would put dr mike in a song or edit
@@seam13ss :(
@@seam13sscry
The same reason so many legends in the 90's didn't win a NBA championship....Michael Jordan 🥇
I tried your lying down bicep curl Dr. Mike. 2 days after, my biceps still feels a little sore. That is a the best bicep exercise I have ever tried👌🏽
I have being very lucky to see the man train and yes 45 minutes and the effort and style was outstanding
Hey folks Dr Mike here with the Arby’s strength app
Help you look like roast beef for the competition.
Doesn't mention Mike Mentzer ONCE 😅
Because hes being paid not to. The entire youtube algorithm is geared against Mike . Mike is the ultimate counter to an industry that wants all tour time and money. Mike is the only Goat IMO. He took arthurs work and applied to to Himself and other monsters like Dorian.
@@real_talk8749 i respect Mike but i think his training routine is just not right, like training a muscle group just twice a month there's no enough volume to grow, and prefer dorians routine and also follow it.
@@real_talk8749 Chill with the conspiracy theory, not everyone is after Mike Mentzer loo
@erykaldo2l270 they already killed mike, now they are after every red cent in your pocket as well as trying to waste as much time you have in the gym cranking out volume. A healthy fit society is a hard society to get over on. Mikes information allows everyday people with jobs and families to remain fit and vigilant. A fit class of people can resist. An unfit weak and dying group of people cannot resist. They capitulate.
@@real_talk8749 bruh what? gyms don't get paid by volume 😂
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS 🎉🎉
Thanks for the new biceps exercise. I'll have to do it with light weight because 3 days later I do back heavy and that works bi's too.
Thanks for the flat bench bicep curl-tip. I will try that this evening for the first time!
Dorian Yates a proponent of Mike mentzer style of training , but less extreme (volume wise)
I’ve been doing full ROM , controlled eccentric , asynchronous and autoregulated training Since I started going to the gym 20 years ago. Good to know I was on to something. Thanks for a great channel ❤
Hey, I try to watch your videos while I'm in the gym.... but you make me crack up 😂 in the middle of a set. 😂 Not safe bro. 😂
Haha been there. Safety bars have saved me from Dr Mikes jokes at least a couple of times.
Mike you did this perfectly. Showed him respect but then also told everyone that this is not the best way to train.
I was looking for the latest video to comment you should do a vid on this topic....
Thanks for doing it in advance! :)
Briefly, if Dorian had better shape in arms and belly he would be the greatest by far... and it's almost quite right being honest... if "shape gods" trained more like him for period of times they would have won... everyone should do both training styles Dorian and the others...
P.s.: dorian is not my favourite bb... shawn kevin flex and chris i prefer way more... but I'm simply being objective
7:50 and here starts gibberish. In 10+ years of training that produced top class results, an athlete improves little by little his method. The method is forged by trial and error. Dorian have trained with higher frequency in the beginning so that "5 days/week" magic recipe from dude trainer was used at some point and discarded at some point.
If you’re not on TRT or Roids don’t do high volume training. You won’t grow. Most people don’t have super human T. Train 2-4 days a week 30-45min super high intensity to complete failure. That’s the key
I am 50 and only do a few exercises per muscle and do one set per exercise and I am growing in strength and size and I am a experienced lifter. Some People would say how can you get gains doing and I think answer is simple it's the intensity I use. I am growing more than when I did about 4 sets per exercise doing each body part twice a week yes I did look very toned but wasn't growing. I grew more when I was training less. Doing less sets for me works better maybe when I thought I was a hard gainer I was just over training.
I started lifting weights at 36 y/o. At that age most men would say your natural T is fairly low. I have gone from 73 kg to 97 kg in three years using high volume training.
Arnold trained 2-2,5 hours 6 days per week according to Jerry Branium
@@eivindgjengstjohansen9625Arnold was also genetically gifted. He was huge even at the age of 15. Not to mention steroid use. Your average gym bro can’t sustain working out 6 days a week twice a day. Frank Zane, Tom Platz, Dorian Yates, and Mike M. all trained with low volume and high intensity with amazing gains to show for it.
That's no true at all, it all comes down to what works for you. There's not some golden workout that works for everyone. The science is always there but how that science applies to you is person dependent. I can do 6 week program of slow, methodical, deep stretch reps of 10-15 and grow. I can also do 6 weeks of heavy 4-8 rep sets and grow. It's about how you lift
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