Rickson Gracie on the Problem with BJJ Scoring

Rickson Gracie shares his thoughts with Sean Patrick Flanery on the problems of the BJJ competitive point system. This interview took place at the 2009 IBJJF Jiu-jitsu World Championships.
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[@Yoandrys23]

so 15 years later still a problem

[@SoulRollerFIN]

Woah Rickson and Braulio in the background look so young!

[@MBGamesHD]

Roger

[@GrappleHeavy93]

Jii-Jitsu has terrible rulsets. Even the most wrestle heavy rulesets like ADCC are extremely flawed. There needs to be more incentive for takedowns & more aggressive stalling calls. All reverals and escapes from bottom to standing should also be rewarded, as these are things that are rewarded in an actual fight.

[@Nebelhom]

Out of curiosity, you stress "even the most wrestle heavy rulesets" which sounds like you prefer them.
I don't know Jack about wrestling rules, so what makes those rulesets better? Do they promote certain facets of the game or something like that or is it just personal preference because you are comfortable with them? Thx😊

[@GrappleHeavy93]

Almost any time you watch Jiu-jitsu, the most exciting rulesets (from a Spectator perspective) tend to be the ones that incentivize Takedowns. The exchanges & scrambles are super exciting and provide a lot of entertainment for even people that don't necessarily understand grappling. Even in submission only rulesets, a lot of times you will get a 5-10 minute regulation period with no points where nothing happens, then in overtime when points start & you can't pull guard (ADCC Overtime rules) the matches are instantly action packed. Watch almost any of the fight pass invitational overtimes or ADCC Overtimes. It's just much more exciting that one guy butt scooting & the other trying to pass. It's also much more practical for actual self defense & combat, which is the original entire point of submission grappling/ Jiu jitsu.

[@Nebelhom]

Thanks for the reply, mate. I'll need to watch it more with that at the back of my mind, but yea, impact and action being more spectator friendly sounds about right, I think.

[@greasebob]

I think giving the back to avoid takedown points should not be able to happen. You take me down and I turtle or go to all fours, then stand back up, you still get one point. A clean throw should be awarded points even if the thrown guy stands back up before 3 seconds. A solution for 50/50, either allow heel hooks or allow the ref to break and reset back to standing or some other position.

[@GrappleHeavy93]

@@greasebob yeah a takedown to any position once a knee is down should be points for sure.