How to fit a ceiling fan. UK .
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- If it`s too hot in one of your rooms this is the answer, especially in the bedroom, where the fan makes no noise, so it is easy to sleep and keep cool.
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This polished brass, wood/lattice blades, and bell shades design was popular here in the USA in the 1980s. It seems like they were everywhere. I can remember going into Sears as a kid and seeing ones just like this hanging up in the lighting department for sale. From what I understand, ceiling fans didn’t used to be particularly common in the UK but are gaining in popularity there recently. What fascinated me when I was in the UK about 25 years ago were these round kitchen extractor fans (GEC/Xpelair) mounted right in a pane of glass in a window! Had never seen anything like it before
Good old GB.
Just what I was looking for, acquired a boxed 36 inch Argos fan / light with no instructions so your video was ideal.
Installed in 40 minutes and just in time for the July heat wave. Many many thanks and please keep informing
Barry Russell Thanks Barry will do. Al.
Cheers for the knowledge, going to get myself a fan tomorrow.
I studied this before helping a mate fit a very similar one, which came with no instructions. Very clearly explained and very helpful to a quite fiddly process requiring two people at times. Invaluable. Thank you Al.
No problem
Brilliant just bought very same one and after fiddling found this video, working perfect and I paid 24.99 so well happy
That`s great.
Many thanks Al , very helpful. Fan and light fitted 👍
No problem 👍
After reading some of the comments... It doesn't matter what way the blades are fitted, it doesn't change how the fan works. Argos have had this particular fan for many years and it always had the reversible blade option. There used to be a white version of this fan which had the same bamboo blades on one side, then it had a gold stenciling effect on the other side but they stopped selling it for some reason. The fan you have seems to be more popular even these days, although though a lot of people would say they look very old fasioned now. But if it keeps you cool I guess you can't complain.
Dean Lawson Was
10:13 Don't think I didn't notice you put the first blade on upside down 🤣 I love how in the next shot, they were all assembled the correct way and you didn't mention anything 😎 haha
We all make mistakes, thank goodness.
What a great tutorial thanks for doing this well explained 👍👍👍
No problem Spider.
Thanks for this video, it helped watching this prior to installing one.
You're welcome!
At school im taking engineering so that I can be safe around electricity and this video has helped alot thank you so much for doing this video
No problem jay good luck with it.Al.
I was looking forward to seeing the fan in operation : D Great video.
There should be a short clip of it at the begging.
@@dereton33 h7
Nice Al , wished I had some fitted these past few week, another great `how-to` tutorial, knowing my luck I`ll fit a couple just before we hit a cold spell..Lol
Its looks like summer all over now, save your money for next year.
absolutely fantastic, couldn't have even attempted mine without watching this video thanks
+Pete Livesey No problem.
Hi YOYOBOY, the first 15 seconds with the title on the vid is the finished fitted thing .Just thought I would put it on first , (make a change).
Regards,
al.
Well explained and demonstrated. 👍🏻
Thank you! 👍
I have used one of those for last 40 years and never had a problem with them ,I know what you are going to say it`s just a diode between me and 240 volts . Life is all one big risk I guess, I could get run over tomorrow.
Kind regards,
al.
dereton33 It is a resistor NOT a diode and neon screwdrivers will light from static when a circuit is in fact dead also if you are stood on insulated stepladders the screwdriver may fail to indicate a live circuit simply because you cannot complete a circuit to light the neon. NEVER EVER risk your life with these devices and before you ask, I am a qualified electrical engineer .
dereton33 x
@@ianscrimshaw7325 In order to get a shock, the resistor would have to fail shorted and the neon bulb would have to allow enough current to be dangerous. Fairly unlikely at mains voltages if the tester was constructed with proper creepage and clearance distances.
I think the main problem would be is you can't see if it's lit up like in day time or and of course if you are on fibreglass ladders then it won't light up either way but
If he's go out and bought fibreglass ladders or using them then he'd already would have
1 bought something else to use as. Tester
2 be a professional that works in the trade
So bit stupid saying that
.. I think having a tester or at least using one is better than not using one
..... Know what I mean.
But yeah I suppose your right.... You win..
.. Thank you sir
Nice job mate 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
where does the wire from the bracket go
Good video very informative thank you
Glad it was helpful!
what is the name of that ceiling fan?
Thank you sir very helpful. 🙏
Most welcome
Hi mate. I’m getting one from Argos not this exact one but the schoolhouse, does that fits the same way, with brackets on outside of ceiling, and did u use raw plugs or just screw into the joists., just so I know what is needed for when the electrician comes. Thanks
You must screw into the joists, plugs not good enough, brackets on outside of ceiling.
Very helpful thanks
You're welcome!
Good job I’m curious if this fan can work on the us too
As long as the voltage is US.
Where do you get those oblong brass ceiling mounts from?
They came with the fan.
Heya, can we get replacement switches in the UK? i got a Westinghouse and the switch that changes it from clock to anti clock wise motion just broke ;/
Yes you can
i like the video you r Good
Hi thanks for the video. I've just installed this fan after seeing your video and am someone who's never messed with electricity work in their life lol. This vidoe was really helpful, but I got a question for you, can I somehow make the fan rotate bit faster than that?
Hasan Kamaikazi There is a pull cord on ours that changes the speed from slow through to fast. So it has 3 speeds.
Thanks
UK means unknown
Hasan Kamaikazi
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is the wiring any different with a fan that comes with a remote?
No should be the same.
is 220v ceiling fan OK for UK? i seen some selling on amazom at 110v and people in UK bought and fitted them. saying they didnt notice 120v label or have no problems!
220v is fine but not 110 that is for American markets.
dereton33 love your channel :) thanks you help me for install my 52 Inch Hunter Classic Original :)
AMDRADEONRUBY No problem .Al.
I used something similar for the ceiling bracket but mine seems to make a noise did you come across this?
No mine is very quiet.
Very clearly explained, thank you!
No problem.
Does the light shake when the fan is on?
No
Yay my favorite ceiling fans😄
Great.
Hey, I tried fitting this fan but the wires where my light bulb is are 3 red and 1 black and not what it states in the instructions. And I forgot which they were lol. Can you help me? Also, the red wires are too short so after I put it in, in on of the slots of the fan holder, then try putting the gold chandelier thing on, it keeps coming back out. I can't pull it out anymore, so I'm stuck. Can anyone help me please?
not sure what type of light wiring you have , but mine has a lot more connection in the ceiling as it has the ring main running through it ..
Yes... Yours is loop in system each light fitting has the circuit wire wired into the ceiling rose fitting which is taking power to the next light...
Then you have a switch wire which is connected to the live of the circuit wire that's the loop in and this same wire the neutral wire is then switched live. Then the light is connected to switched live and the neutral of the circuit wire.
But this man's wiring is likely a junction box system.. Its exactly the same as yours but the circuit wires and switch wires are wired into a junction box.... Therefore there will be a single twin and earth cable running from the junction box connected to switched live and a neutral.. And then the light connects to that or fan as in this video.
Lighting circuits are not on a ring... Sockets are on a ring...
Sockets are on a ring because it permits the use of a smaller cable size to be used as the current is coming from both sides where as lighting circuits the wire size is already the smallest size available and lighting isn't usually subject to the same amount of load as a socket....
Aswel lighting is usually protected by a 5 amp fuse or 6 amp miniature circuit breaker and wired in 1mm or 1.5mm/ 14 amp cable.....where as 2.5mm is rated to 23 amps but the circuit breaker is like 32amps so using a ring spreads the load enabling smaller size wires to be used and makes it so the wires are not weak/less stress on them and the fuse or mcb is still the weak part instead as you've got power coming from both sides.
Or it could be a spur from a socket.....utilising an Fcu, or a spur from another light, like the last light on the circuit so wouldn't require a switch wire as such if this man has done it himself he may just use the pull switches on the fan itself..... Yano what I mean
the light can't be switched from a switch and the fan done on the pull cord anymore is nuts. Makes the switch redundant and you have to turn it on from the fitting even though there's 2 separate wires for the light and fan. Just wired it up like my last one from Argos that used to work fine with the fan on the loop in / out lives and the light off the switch wire.
Can't make it work independently and use my existing switch on the wall. Such a pointless fitting
This might be of interest to others but if in the future (over 20 years in my case) your main lighting fuse keeps blowing or tripping, you make the fan motor your "prime suspect". It is possible to disconnect the connections to the motor to check, and even keep using the light fitting, if it's the culprit.
Thanks for the info Del.
You're welcome - the last time I commented about 8 months ago. I was trying to find how I'd fitted it over 20 years previously. My hunch was correct it was the fan motor (not even in use) that was causing the fuse to blow. A relief really I was dreading a full rewire of the lighting circuit.
really the ceiling fan should have a switch still that allows you to isolate the fan motor, to help in that scenario :)
Do you still have this fan? I’m going to try find one thanks
Yes still have it.
What do I connect the yellow green cable to, which is attached to the plate?
To an earth if there is one, it may be an old green cable
@@dereton33 thank you bud. There was an earth up there too 👍🏼
How you know which position is the joist in the ceiling to attach the bracket? Thanks
By using a stud finder. Or go into the loft and measure it out.
@@dereton33 thank you
you have 3 wires coming from your ceiling. I have 9!! is it the same thing? connect all live together, neutral together, earth together?
I would double check with an electrician first.
9 wires means that you are very likely dealing with a 3 way switch (2 wires are red).
That would probably mean a Live feed to this point from another (3 wires), this feeding live to another point (3 wires) and one switched Live, taking the Live to the switch and back again (3 wires).
AHuman need to add another terminal block. Keep neutrals together in light fitting. Keep earths together in light fitting. Add extra block for live in and out also use this for live going back to switch then back to live in the light.
You have 3 live 3 neutral and 3 earth wires...
The 3 red or brown wires all connect together
The neutral wires 1 of them is switched live and it should have either a brown sleeve on it or a red sleeve... That wired is kept separate and is live what you connect the live of the fan to and the other two neutrals are connected together which the neutral of the fan connects to these
Then of course the earth's are linked together
If you don't know which is the switch wire if it's not got sleeving on
Take the switch off and link the wires from the switch together then use continuity tester across each neutral and live that is coming from their own individual wire... Do that until tester beeps then you've got the switch wire... Only 4 years too late...
what is the name and make of that ceiling fan?
Sorry don't know there is no make on it.
Are these useful in the winter by pushing warm air down which has risen from the radiator?
No it dosent do it. Just feels colder.
@@dereton33 it's just I have a high ceiling and all the heats up there 😢
Yes definitely. That's partially what they are made for. Use it on low speed reverse (clockwise) in the winter to circulate warm air in the room. The warm air trapped at the ceiling will be forced downwards along the walls and your floors won't be so cold.
hey what if i have 3 grounds and 1 live? I dont have neutral is this still possible?
No there has to be a neutral.
@@dereton33 you are right i have black red and copper wire which im assuming is ground.
I love those UK style spinners!
Any tips on how to find the joist? 😊
Try measuring from inside the loft.
I can't remember which way the switch has to be to rotate the blades for cold air, is it up or down? I have 2 argos fans, the one u fitted and the plain white one.
Up for cold air.
Down usually, depends on your fan, it should spin anticlockwise
thank you both for replying it's doing the job now!!
No problem good luck with it now.
At 5:26, my ceiling cup has a plastic bushing ring that the fan rod ball sits in
Hello I'm thinking about getting two fitted how do I hire you please?
You don't, I'm retired.
Neon screwdrivers should NEVER be used to confirm a circuit is safe. ALWAYS use a voltage tester which should be proved on a known live circuit before testing the circuit to be worked on. Finally, re check the voltage tester on a known live circuit before you can be certain that the circuit to be worked on is dead.
Where did u buy this ceiling fan? That's a vintage fan
Argos.
argos brass "HOME" ceiling fan, ive got videos of iton my channel. Very good and quiet!
you could have undone the terminal block so you could get the wires in easier
Thanks for the extra info .
I got 2 live and 1 switch live. Where do I connect each of these?
You have 2 live wires in the ceiling? If so, you're probably going to want to fit them both into the live connector
@@Thurrock2 but where does the live switch go then?
Tape it off, you only need it if you are having a separate switch for the fan.
maybe im just being paranoid, but are two screws really enough to hold up the weight of the fan? I'm going to have it in my bedroom and i don't want it to drop on me at night!!
Mine has been up for 4 years.
dereton33 thanks, I might just do it then. I like this model of fan, but it does look old fashioned. I think I'll shop around. Thanks anyway
No problem.
What about if like my celing light there is 4 wires?
Two will be connecting the lighting ring the other two connect to the light. If unsure test with a test meter.
I'm trying to work out why at 10:16 the bamboo side of the fan blade was facing the ceiling (could see the floor below) , yet later it appeared the other way round. Had you by chance fitted the arm upside down but later changed it without mentioning it? Very confusing!☺☺☺
Well spotted Del, you are of course right, but I did not think it worth mentioning as anyone could see one blade was the wrong way round.
DelTangBrav I hurt really
these fans are reversible, you can have the bamboo effect or not, depending on decor, just flip the motor switch so it goes the other way round.
eventually you fixed the blades problem
Great video but what if the joist is not in the correct position
You will have to use plasterboard
Fixers.
Can you use a ceiling fan with a dimmer switch?
Gordon Hill Hi Gordon, I have to admit I don`t Know, best check with an electrician. Al.
+Gordon Hill We don't use dimmers on Ceiling Fans because it could hum.
Nooooo
In our case a fan/LED light combination (similar to Al’s) worked with a dimmer switch.
No definitely not! It will make the motor hum loudly and damage it.
There isn't a joist directly above where my lamp is so how would I install a ceiling fan?
Run a piece of 2x4 wood between the joists where you want to hang your Fan.
Thanks I'm going to do this but theoretically what if I had the same problem but with no loft access for example if I had to install one on the ground floor?
You would have to remove some floorboards in the room above and fix the wood across the joists there.
Ok thanks for the reply
Easier to do it from the ceiling below; remove the lamp and box and reach into the wall to add metal fan support bracket or beam. www.homedepot.com/p/KWIK-BRACE-with-4-in-Round-Ceiling-Rated-Pan-1-1-2-in-Deep-with-1-2-in-KO-s-926/203743170
What if you have 3 of each of the wires? Coming out the ceiling
Call an electrician.
@@dereton33 some in line connectors will do it then from that connect to the 3 wires attached to the fan
3 of each wire that's equal to 1.21 gigawatts so it tells me that no wait it can't be
@@ZenMotoMCR wago box did the trick
@@dereton33 wago box did the trick genius invention
It's a shame you didn't show how to connect the wires, especially the mounting plate earth terminal.
It's very simple, but as you saw in his video, there was a red, black and green wire coming out of his ceiling. That is the old version of Live, Neutral & Earth. The colours as we know them today are Brown (L), Blue (N) & Green/Yellow (E)... If your wiring is the same as his, you simply put the Red wire into Live, the black into Neutral and the green into Earth... then you put the other earth wire (which comes with the brass base of the fan) into the same earth terminal as the other earth wire. This means that all the metal parts of the fan are fully earthed.
Thanks. I actually had 5 wires so I had to get an electrician to come and do it.
The fan is hanging on two screws. That's scary 😲
They are long ones screwed into wooden joists.
These lights make no sense. You have 2 separate wires for fan and light and they have to be doubled up making it impossible so switch the light on via and switch and use the pull cord for the fan. The old one I had worked like this perfect with split wiring now the new one doesn't. Such a bad design needing to use the pull cord for both the light and the fan from the fitting
Chinese
You put the blades on the wrong way
That fan looks 80s
A replica.
Throw that tester in the bin and get a proper tester. Those things are dangerous.
V
Cheers sorted no crap intro or crap tune
No problem.