Nice video on the Ruby, just a few things to mention on the item you have on loan, 1, the stainless top in on upside-down, undo 3 screws flip the top, screw back down... 2, They are made in China 🇨🇳 3, they make two fuel capacity tanks 3L & 5L you have the 5L 4, A full tank on the 5L will burn for 8 hours at Max output equivalent to 3000W and 16 hours on minimum output equivalent to 1000W They are very good for what they are...
I just watched this video, and I want to bring you up to date on a few things. I am not being derogatory towards you or your time and effort testing this heater. I admire you for taking the time to share and for your enthusiasm, but I've tested many of these heaters over the years in connection with my job as a legal investigator, and all for different reasons some of which with sad endings. At the time you uploaded your video, there were not many videos in English explaining how these heater stoves worked. So, whoever reads this, make yourself comfortable and get ready for a long read! First, this heater is known by many names; mine is called Riley and is red in colour. I have another very similar one that adjusts, but I'll get to that later. It is called Telstar and is silver in colour. Originally, it was manufactured by Aladdin Industries, which had several factories in England, with Hartlepool being the main one. They also had a factory in Brazil that made several components that were then shipped to the UK for assembly. They stopped producing that model in 1974, thanks to Edward (Ted) Heath, who was the then prime minister and against users of paraffin as the lower classes used paraffin heaters, being the Conservative he was. Harold Wilson (Labour) took over later that year, and in 1975 he did his best to have the decision overturned so that they could start replicating that model. Sadly, it was too late because the government deemed it too unsafe according to fire brigade reports. These reports were submitted between 1962 and 1974 and stated that fires in homes using that particular model were so dangerous that something had to be done. At the time, it was the most popular model around, second only to the Senator. The worst and most intense fires were in Birmingham, but, strangely enough, not by this model. Even though its production was immediately stopped, but owners of the heater continued to use them. Soon after, Aladdin ceased making paraffin heaters, but they are still in business today, making parts and other items of interest. Some years later, it was established that Harold Wilson had shares in the Aladdin company. Conspiracy theorists believed Ted Heath shut down production to affect elections, which did not work as Wilson got in. Those heaters made outside of the UK, mainly in China, are fakes, which are then shipped to retailers around the world. Those companies then put their own label on the product. In your case, that name is Ruby, and my research shows the Ruby heater came from a town called Samara, which is in Russia, and has been faking popular products for many years, as far back as the 1950s. These fakes work well, but the quality and workmanship are nothing compared to the original, like most things. It should also be said that these heaters are not stoves; boiling a small kettle is a gimmick and takes an absolute age. Would you really use one of these heaters while camping? In a caravan perhaps, yes, but in a tent? and they don't work well outside. Mind you, while camping, you have all day and night to wait for your cup-a-soup while the water boils or sit around the heater singing, Ging Gang Goolie Goolie Goolie Goolie Watcha Ging Gang Goo Ging Gang Goo... Seriously, now to the nitty-gritty bit. The stainless steel you refer to is, in fact, steel plate that has been chromed, not stainless steel. This steel is a good material to use in this situation because of the intense heat these heaters can achieve under the right conditions. Not only that, but sheet steel is a third of the price of steel alloyed with chromium, better known as stainless steel. Next up, lighting the heater. When it's first lit, you must turn the wick up as high as possible until the steel gauze burns almost white, then turn the wick down to a reasonable flame. This must be done every time you use your burner. They are very economical, and a full tank, which is around 4.6 liters, will last you between 8 and 10 hours, depending on how high you have the wick and if you filled the tank to the brim. There is a larger 6-litre version, but they are difficult to get hold of (but not impossible) and also expensive. I once made a heater last 11 hours, and still the heater warmed my dining room, which is 11 feet by 13 feet. If the gauze is glowing bright red, this will help keep the odour to a minimum. Next up, paraffin or kerosene. Using good quality paraffin or kerosene reduces odour as well as smoke. When using low-grade paraffin, or kerosene, you need to keep the wick burning higher than normal to prevent smoke; the less wick, the less smoke and odour you get. These types of heaters will never be odourless; if that is what you want to achieve, you need to get yourself a heater like the Corona Inverter 5086 3.2 kW, which is a great heater and I love it. It is extremely economical to run and does not cost much in electricity either. Electricity is only needed to ignite the fuel and run the small, low-wattage fan; it costs less than 1.20p a week, and I estimate that figure based on the time I calculated over two weeks of winter use. from 4pm to 11.30pm 7 days a week. I did use the heater during the day on the weekends for around 3 hours each time but the thermostat works really well. Fantastic machine, 10/10. There are other makes available, of course, but this 5086 model is the one I have used for two years now without fault; there have been four others I tested that had many faults or were far from being economical to run. There's a well-documented fault concerning the heat sensor. This gets heavily coated in carbon if you don't use good-quality paraffin. Which is why top-grade paraffin is so important for all paraffin heaters. It's not always a good idea to go cheap, as you will pay the price in the end, sometimes with your life! Next up, stove. When assembled correctly, as the one in this video is, you're able to place a small kettle or pan on the top. But if you own a fake heater (I have three), then when you remove the black lid, it will appear in one of two ways, depending on which country it originated from. Both China and Russia have a similar silver-coloured plate, but one is upright like in this video, and the other is upside-down and has three stabalising feet. Some versions have the three movable legs (this one does not), but others are static, as this one is. They are to accommodate a larger pot or pan. Moving the outer casing lower down gives greater heat to the bottom of the kettle or pot as it is nearer the red-hot wire gauze. The heaters which move up and down are also stoves and work quite well. If your heater does not have the slits in the three legs with sliding bolts allowing the outer casing to move up and down, then it is just a heater that can boil a small kettle of water in a very, very long time. more than 40 winks of sleep. Someone commented on this video to simply turn the plate the other way up, but it's not that simple because of the top screws on the plate, handle and then the black cover plate. Turning it around will affect this in a bad way. DANGER!!!. No, nothing to do with Will Robinson or Lost in Space. It's a good piece of advice if you take it. If all you want to do is boil a kettle or small pan of water for cup-a-soup, a boiled egg, or whatever your choice is, then do it with the black lid on. Always keep the black lid on unless using a large pot or pan, which I urge you to refrain from using because if the liquid should boil over (heaven forbid that should happen), but if it does, then it will run down onto the red-hot gauze wire and could be devastating to your health. Even more so when using a frying pan with oil on a hot surface such as your wire gauze, hot oil, and hot flame, woosh, as the flames rage up, burning everything in reach. Blimey, what a fire that would make! In conclusion: using the heater as a stove without the black lid means all the heat escapes. Look at the lid; there are just small slits around the edge that allow maximum heat to be retained. Whereas the silver part allows more heat to escape, if that makes sense? Try heating the 2.5 liters of water while the black lid is on; you will notice a difference, small but nonetheless noticeable. As heaters, they are quite impressive. As a stove, it is useless; forget it unless you have all the time in the world and you are not starving for that fried egg. The original Aladdin heater and some made in China have that silver part slightly low in the downward position, helping to prevent the small kettle or pot from sliding off. Or they can also have the three movable or pop-up legs to secure a larger pot. Now that the black lid in this video has been removed, I can confirm your Ruby heater is a Russian reproduction, a good heater, and not a Chinese one, as the three legs are fixed and do not have the three small flip-up legs or stabilisers. In my professional opinion, any heater that doubles as a stove rarely works as one. I have many stoves because I love camping, but my first choice goes to Coleman Stoves. They are brilliant, and mine runs on unleaded petrol. I also have a very rare Coleman heater from the 1930s that also runs on petrol or gasoline. I got it back in 1976 from a friend who picked it up while touring America. Now when I go camping, they are what I take with me in my camper van. They are and will always be the difference between surviving out in the open and death. If you made it this far, thanks for reading my extra-long comment. I hope it is of use to whoever reads it and apologise to anyone who may be offended form comments I made towards the Scouts. I was a Scout leader from 1975 to 1986. Ging Gang Goolie... Honour God and Country. Help Others. Obey the Scout Law. That's what is represented with the three finger salute for those of you who didn't know.
These heaters are fantastic,it is a Heater and nothing comes close. I get home from work light the heater and put the kettle on top , by the time I have done the Horse the old tack room is toasty. Considering I have no Gas Or power it is a real life saver .
This is a simple and basic keroseneheater without all the modern electronics added to it. Alot of them will leak at the bottom where the drip plate is mounted to the keroseneheater flount. This is an easy fix and it should be addressed. I went through 5 heaters and only 2 out of the five didn't leaked. The leaking ones were returned. I now know how to repair them and at that time I did not. This is a 9,000 btu keroseneheater and at extreme cool conditions, I find myself using two them in the same area to make the area hotter. It is important to have this heater away from other potential flammable items and to have a smoke and carbon dioxide detector in the area that they are in use.
Thanks I seen these for about $60US and was wondering if I should get one. I have a nice larger Perfection but would like a small one for the outdoor table.
Where are you. Were lucky at the moment as its +10degC stopped raining and in our Bungalow with electric and gas. Very grateful at the moment. Hope it improves for you. Best Wishes from us old George and Jane in central UK 70 miles north from London roughly. 🎄👫👧👍
@@MakeDoAndMend1 west Tennessee, United States… I have two kerosene 23,800btu units running, 5 kerosene lamps on and the fireplace… im also cooking a brisket outside… straight 1818 frontier living
To be honest I am not sure. When I retired from working full time. I then worked in a Research and Development/ Quality Testing Gas Appliances. A flame/fire needs fuel and air to burn. The bigger the flame the more air and fuel it consumes. Producing byproducts which can be harmful. So I cannot advise on such products. This particular heater was on loan from my Son. He got it to heat an open tent thing when night time fishing in the UK. It was too powerful for his application and bulky. So I don't think he used it anymore. Cheers from old George
@@MakeDoAndMend1 i know the inside temp of my house is very close to outside if I don’t have the HVAC running, so it must not have the tightest insulation.
Kerosene heaters were used indoors through the Great Depression. My grandparents used them when I was a child. I was deathly afraid of them but I’m still here 40 years later. The rule was to always keep a window open 2-3 inches in the room with the heater and never have it 3-4 feet near anything. So they were the center piece of the room. And yes George the top should be on if you’re cooking. You don’t want fat or grease to have easy access to your flame. Use cast iron pans. Let them harm up with the heater.
Did you ever actually announce the boil time...maybe I missed it? Also, I was thinking about buying one and wonder how long it would take to boil in highest setting?
To be honest I cannot remember boil time etc. A lot of things were going on during Covid lockdown. The Ruby Stove was on loan and I don't own one. Maybe I turned it off or played it safe and didn't want to damage it during the test. Just a bit of fun etc. Pass the time. Cheers from old George
Thanks George. I have just purchased one and needed instructions on use. Can I ask, is it just being put out by lowering the wick or how do you turn this thing of? Love from Denmark
Yes I agree. At the moment there isn't an easy solution to fuel costs at the moment. We are in the uk and our Government is a shambles. Cheers from old George and Jane.
@@MakeDoAndMend1 I'm in the UK also. I've collected various paraffin heaters and love tinkering with them. Bought a bottle of Rolf oil the other day for lamps on my narrowboat. .6 quid for a litre! Keep well both.
Hi Karlos. Thanks for your kind comments. Etc. I have been collecting vintage camping stoves. Most of them run on Metherlated Spirit. But lost interest in them so going up for sale. I used to collect Tilley lamps but sold them years ago when money was short. Still got a couple of Coleman's Northstar Candle laterns. These are modern though. Cheers from old George and Jane. PS Janes brother has a Narrowboat called Still Waters. We love Foxton Locks and it's about 40mins drive from our house.
Nice video on the Ruby, just a few things to mention on the item you have on loan,
1, the stainless top in on upside-down, undo 3 screws flip the top, screw back down...
2, They are made in China 🇨🇳
3, they make two fuel capacity tanks 3L & 5L you have the 5L
4, A full tank on the 5L will burn for 8 hours at Max output equivalent to 3000W
and 16 hours on minimum output
equivalent to 1000W
They are very good for what they are...
Thanks for info. The loan period was just for video. Heater no use for me . Sent copy of your info to my Son. Cheers from old George
So a big drop in efficiency at lowest output setting? Interesting. 🧐
I just watched this video, and I want to bring you up to date on a few things. I am not being derogatory towards you or your time and effort testing this heater. I admire you for taking the time to share and for your enthusiasm, but I've tested many of these heaters over the years in connection with my job as a legal investigator, and all for different reasons some of which with sad endings.
At the time you uploaded your video, there were not many videos in English explaining how these heater stoves worked. So, whoever reads this, make yourself comfortable and get ready for a long read!
First, this heater is known by many names; mine is called Riley and is red in colour. I have another very similar one that adjusts, but I'll get to that later. It is called Telstar and is silver in colour. Originally, it was manufactured by Aladdin Industries, which had several factories in England, with Hartlepool being the main one. They also had a factory in Brazil that made several components that were then shipped to the UK for assembly.
They stopped producing that model in 1974, thanks to Edward (Ted) Heath, who was the then prime minister and against users of paraffin as the lower classes used paraffin heaters, being the Conservative he was. Harold Wilson (Labour) took over later that year, and in 1975 he did his best to have the decision overturned so that they could start replicating that model. Sadly, it was too late because the government deemed it too unsafe according to fire brigade reports. These reports were submitted between 1962 and 1974 and stated that fires in homes using that particular model were so dangerous that something had to be done. At the time, it was the most popular model around, second only to the Senator.
The worst and most intense fires were in Birmingham, but, strangely enough, not by this model. Even though its production was immediately stopped, but owners of the heater continued to use them. Soon after, Aladdin ceased making paraffin heaters, but they are still in business today, making parts and other items of interest. Some years later, it was established that Harold Wilson had shares in the Aladdin company. Conspiracy theorists believed Ted Heath shut down production to affect elections, which did not work as Wilson got in.
Those heaters made outside of the UK, mainly in China, are fakes, which are then shipped to retailers around the world. Those companies then put their own label on the product. In your case, that name is Ruby, and my research shows the Ruby heater came from a town called Samara, which is in Russia, and has been faking popular products for many years, as far back as the 1950s. These fakes work well, but the quality and workmanship are nothing compared to the original, like most things. It should also be said that these heaters are not stoves; boiling a small kettle is a gimmick and takes an absolute age. Would you really use one of these heaters while camping? In a caravan perhaps, yes, but in a tent? and they don't work well outside. Mind you, while camping, you have all day and night to wait for your cup-a-soup while the water boils or sit around the heater singing, Ging Gang Goolie Goolie Goolie Goolie Watcha Ging Gang Goo Ging Gang Goo...
Seriously, now to the nitty-gritty bit. The stainless steel you refer to is, in fact, steel plate that has been chromed, not stainless steel. This steel is a good material to use in this situation because of the intense heat these heaters can achieve under the right conditions. Not only that, but sheet steel is a third of the price of steel alloyed with chromium, better known as stainless steel.
Next up, lighting the heater. When it's first lit, you must turn the wick up as high as possible until the steel gauze burns almost white, then turn the wick down to a reasonable flame. This must be done every time you use your burner. They are very economical, and a full tank, which is around 4.6 liters, will last you between 8 and 10 hours, depending on how high you have the wick and if you filled the tank to the brim. There is a larger 6-litre version, but they are difficult to get hold of (but not impossible) and also expensive. I once made a heater last 11 hours, and still the heater warmed my dining room, which is 11 feet by 13 feet. If the gauze is glowing bright red, this will help keep the odour to a minimum.
Next up, paraffin or kerosene. Using good quality paraffin or kerosene reduces odour as well as smoke. When using low-grade paraffin, or kerosene, you need to keep the wick burning higher than normal to prevent smoke; the less wick, the less smoke and odour you get. These types of heaters will never be odourless; if that is what you want to achieve, you need to get yourself a heater like the Corona Inverter 5086 3.2 kW, which is a great heater and I love it. It is extremely economical to run and does not cost much in electricity either. Electricity is only needed to ignite the fuel and run the small, low-wattage fan; it costs less than 1.20p a week, and I estimate that figure based on the time I calculated over two weeks of winter use. from 4pm to 11.30pm 7 days a week. I did use the heater during the day on the weekends for around 3 hours each time but the thermostat works really well. Fantastic machine, 10/10.
There are other makes available, of course, but this 5086 model is the one I have used for two years now without fault; there have been four others I tested that had many faults or were far from being economical to run. There's a well-documented fault concerning the heat sensor. This gets heavily coated in carbon if you don't use good-quality paraffin. Which is why top-grade paraffin is so important for all paraffin heaters. It's not always a good idea to go cheap, as you will pay the price in the end, sometimes with your life!
Next up, stove. When assembled correctly, as the one in this video is, you're able to place a small kettle or pan on the top. But if you own a fake heater (I have three), then when you remove the black lid, it will appear in one of two ways, depending on which country it originated from. Both China and Russia have a similar silver-coloured plate, but one is upright like in this video, and the other is upside-down and has three stabalising feet. Some versions have the three movable legs (this one does not), but others are static, as this one is. They are to accommodate a larger pot or pan.
Moving the outer casing lower down gives greater heat to the bottom of the kettle or pot as it is nearer the red-hot wire gauze. The heaters which move up and down are also stoves and work quite well. If your heater does not have the slits in the three legs with sliding bolts allowing the outer casing to move up and down, then it is just a heater that can boil a small kettle of water in a very, very long time. more than 40 winks of sleep.
Someone commented on this video to simply turn the plate the other way up, but it's not that simple because of the top screws on the plate, handle and then the black cover plate. Turning it around will affect this in a bad way.
DANGER!!!. No, nothing to do with Will Robinson or Lost in Space. It's a good piece of advice if you take it.
If all you want to do is boil a kettle or small pan of water for cup-a-soup, a boiled egg, or whatever your choice is, then do it with the black lid on. Always keep the black lid on unless using a large pot or pan, which I urge you to refrain from using because if the liquid should boil over (heaven forbid that should happen), but if it does, then it will run down onto the red-hot gauze wire and could be devastating to your health. Even more so when using a frying pan with oil on a hot surface such as your wire gauze, hot oil, and hot flame, woosh, as the flames rage up, burning everything in reach. Blimey, what a fire that would make!
In conclusion: using the heater as a stove without the black lid means all the heat escapes. Look at the lid; there are just small slits around the edge that allow maximum heat to be retained. Whereas the silver part allows more heat to escape, if that makes sense? Try heating the 2.5 liters of water while the black lid is on; you will notice a difference, small but nonetheless noticeable. As heaters, they are quite impressive. As a stove, it is useless; forget it unless you have all the time in the world and you are not starving for that fried egg.
The original Aladdin heater and some made in China have that silver part slightly low in the downward position, helping to prevent the small kettle or pot from sliding off. Or they can also have the three movable or pop-up legs to secure a larger pot. Now that the black lid in this video has been removed, I can confirm your Ruby heater is a Russian reproduction, a good heater, and not a Chinese one, as the three legs are fixed and do not have the three small flip-up legs or stabilisers.
In my professional opinion, any heater that doubles as a stove rarely works as one. I have many stoves because I love camping, but my first choice goes to Coleman Stoves. They are brilliant, and mine runs on unleaded petrol. I also have a very rare Coleman heater from the 1930s that also runs on petrol or gasoline. I got it back in 1976 from a friend who picked it up while touring America. Now when I go camping, they are what I take with me in my camper van. They are and will always be the difference between surviving out in the open and death.
If you made it this far, thanks for reading my extra-long comment. I hope it is of use to whoever reads it and apologise to anyone who may be offended form comments I made towards the Scouts. I was a Scout leader from 1975 to 1986. Ging Gang Goolie... Honour God and Country. Help Others. Obey the Scout Law. That's what is represented with the three finger salute for those of you who didn't know.
These heaters are fantastic,it is a Heater and nothing comes close. I get home from work light the heater and put the kettle on top , by the time I have done the Horse the old tack room is toasty. Considering I have no Gas Or power it is a real life saver .
Great to know! I’m looking for a low power Omni heater to supplement my 10k btu radiant.
Hi
Could you please tell me the name of oil , u have used for it ?
The oil i used , it is so smelly and gives me headache.thak u
Paraffin or Kerosene fuel.
But both can be smelly.
I wonder if the top gets hot enough to power a wood stove fan.
Sorry to say you Brits are gonna need that this winter.Take care.
Brilliant video thank you
This is a simple and basic keroseneheater without all the modern electronics added to it. Alot of them will leak at the bottom where the drip plate is mounted to the keroseneheater flount. This is an easy fix and it should be addressed. I went through 5 heaters and only 2 out of the five didn't leaked. The leaking ones were returned. I now know how to repair them and at that time I did not. This is a 9,000 btu keroseneheater and at extreme cool conditions, I find myself using two them in the same area to make the area hotter. It is important to have this heater away from other potential flammable items and to have a smoke and carbon dioxide detector in the area that they are in use.
Thanks I seen these for about $60US and was wondering if I should get one. I have a nice larger Perfection but would like a small one for the outdoor table.
You leave the lid on top for cooking
Thank you🤩💜
Great video
Thanks!
@@MakeDoAndMend1 boiling water as I type… it’s 8 degrees and the power has been out for a day… need some hot water to bath, wash, and cook
Where are you. Were lucky at the moment as its +10degC stopped raining and in our Bungalow with electric and gas. Very grateful at the moment. Hope it improves for you. Best Wishes from us old George and Jane in central UK 70 miles north from London roughly. 🎄👫👧👍
@@MakeDoAndMend1 west Tennessee, United States… I have two kerosene 23,800btu units running, 5 kerosene lamps on and the fireplace… im also cooking a brisket outside… straight 1818 frontier living
🤠👧👫👍👍👍👍
What are y’all’s thoughts on safety of using one of these indoors?
To be honest I am not sure. When I retired from working full time. I then worked in a Research and Development/ Quality Testing Gas Appliances. A flame/fire needs fuel and air to burn. The bigger the flame the more air and fuel it consumes. Producing byproducts which can be harmful. So I cannot advise on such products. This particular heater was on loan from my Son. He got it to heat an open tent thing when night time fishing in the UK. It was too powerful for his application and bulky. So I don't think he used it anymore. Cheers from old George
@@MakeDoAndMend1 i know the inside temp of my house is very close to outside if I don’t have the HVAC running, so it must not have the tightest insulation.
Kerosene heaters were used indoors through the Great Depression. My grandparents used them when I was a child. I was deathly afraid of them but I’m still here 40 years later. The rule was to always keep a window open 2-3 inches in the room with the heater and never have it 3-4 feet near anything. So they were the center piece of the room.
And yes George the top should be on if you’re cooking. You don’t want fat or grease to have easy access to your flame. Use cast iron pans. Let them harm up with the heater.
It’s safe for home ?
Did you ever actually announce the boil time...maybe I missed it? Also, I was thinking about buying one and wonder how long it would take to boil in highest setting?
To be honest I cannot remember boil time etc. A lot of things were going on during Covid lockdown. The Ruby Stove was on loan and I don't own one. Maybe I turned it off or played it safe and didn't want to damage it during the test. Just a bit of fun etc. Pass the time. Cheers from old George
Thanks George. I have just purchased one and needed instructions on use. Can I ask, is it just being put out by lowering the wick or how do you turn this thing of? Love from Denmark
Turn wick down and blow
Thanks a bunch. Have a nice weekend!
Unfortunately these are too expensive to fuel now😣
Yes I agree. At the moment there isn't an easy solution to fuel costs at the moment. We are in the uk and our Government is a shambles. Cheers from old George and Jane.
@@MakeDoAndMend1 I'm in the UK also. I've collected various paraffin heaters and love tinkering with them. Bought a bottle of Rolf oil the other day for lamps on my narrowboat. .6 quid for a litre! Keep well both.
Hi Karlos. Thanks for your kind comments. Etc. I have been collecting vintage camping stoves. Most of them run on Metherlated Spirit. But lost interest in them so going up for sale. I used to collect Tilley lamps but sold them years ago when money was short. Still got a couple of Coleman's Northstar Candle laterns. These are modern though. Cheers from old George and Jane. PS Janes brother has a Narrowboat called Still Waters. We love Foxton Locks and it's about 40mins drive from our house.
If you know someone with oil fired central heating 28 second heating oil is basically kerosene, farmers tend to use 35 second oil that is red Diesel.
@@MakeDoAndMend1 hi do you still have heaters for sale i am interested thanks mark
A ltr of water seems to be a bit too much, would have been better off trying a frying pan with some bacon and would have been a lot quicker.
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