In the end I believe most would agree on the time wasted. Energy. But yeah, totally agree some situations seem warranted. Bottom line the machine needs fuel for ratings and their money. Sad that true feelings or misunderstandings, whatever, become fodder. Lovely day to all, happy thoughts!! 😁❤️
Frank Worth took that famous pic. at the nightclub Ciro's (I think) in Hollywood. All the stars would meet there, the rat pack, Dean, Brando just about everyone in Hollywood.
What I learned recently about Marilyn Monroe and Jayne Mansfield both were smart ladies with high IQs but for the life of me why didn't they played their cards better especially Marilyn who was upset when she learned Elizabeth Taylor playing Cleopatra was going to get 2 million dollars while Marilyn lived in a small house without the luxuries which she would have liked to have had and plenty of money. I believe her disposition not being available to the directors and producers of those projects due to her mental health issues caused her to lose so much more than money, but her reputation was tarnished for years.
She did actually. She got the top billing in few movies, including the starring role in _The Girl Can't Help It_ (1956) which became one of the biggest successes of the year, earning more than let's say _Gentlemen Prefer Blondes_ had three years earlier with Monroe. Her film career however would suffer several setbacks and she was often unable to fulfill the contract due to repeated pregnancies, so Fox stopped viewing her as their mainstream star . Not that I would be a fan of her work, just a note of hand to keep some of her records straight. Mansfield herself was a major movie star for a while, able to attract large audiences also overseas. Anyway, her adoption of Monroe's style and mannerisms would eventually also turn against her. After the death of her senior rival, Hollywood didn’t want to be reminded of blondes and she herself passed away tragically shortly.
At her peak she was considered that. Let's not forget that she was already pretty popular in New York City thanks to her Broadway success. So the leap into Hollywood wasn't that big of a gap. She starred in two major movies back to back, and had a few modest successes afterward. Sadly her peak ended very quickly and her downfall was attributed to many factors: 1. Repeated pregnancies that effectively kept her out of work for 2 years 2. Her marriage to Mickey Hargitay, angering studio executives 3. Tawdry and cheap publicity stunts that led her getting dropped by her fashion label 4. Getting shipped off to make cheap European films for years, keeping her out of the Hollywood eye 5. Over spending in her personal life leading her to take any job that came her way 6. The death of Marilyn Monroe marking the end of the blond bombshell 7. And most importantly (at least in my opinion), her unwillingness to take the role of Ginger on Gilligan's Island. Despite these drawbacks, Jayne was still very popular and sought after in her own right. She had a successful Las Vegas revue and Nightclub tour. But the 60s was a much different time than the 50s and Jayne's body type and general aging in years just didn't fit with them. She tried to cling to being a sex symbol but 5 children and three failed marriages worked against that image. By the end, she became less of a glamorous Hollywood actress and more of a Kim Kardashian-type celebutante. I think if she had been on Gilligan's Island, she would've had steady work and she'd still have mega star status. But she was too proud to be a "television" star and insisted that she just do movies in starring roles. She may have had some breathing room to rework her image to something more dramatic.
Kim Kardashian thinks she's the Marilyn Monroe of this generation but she seemingly is more similar to Jayne Mansfield lol. She should have dressed as her at the Met Gala instead
Totally agree. Kim shows Jayne's over-built, over-hyped supersleaze - with nothing like MM's witty cleverness with words; fearless social conscience; and balance of innocence with star quality.
I am rather not interested in that. Also I am rather not keen at all upon the radical elizabeth taylor. Female rivalry is rather interesting and natural.
Both were great actresses especially Elizabeth but Debbie showed she had many talents that directors and producers weren't willing to see. Despite her Oscar nomination "The Unsinkable Molly Brown." However, being placed in certain types of funny movies never got the vehicle to do more serious roles like, "The Rat Race with Tony Cutis which she was great playing opposite Tony. However, those were the breaks in being type-cast as she was. I recalled that Ginger Rogers got tired of playing opposite Fred Astaire and decided to push for other roles which she got an Oscar immediately after playing single pregnant mother in "Kitty Foyle" back in 1941. It was worth it since she played many other roles even "The Black Widow" which we never guessed she was the killer. Ginger was wise to push for those roles which helped her achieve more accolades.
The Davies - Crawford feud is fabricated for the most part. Sure, they weren't friends but for the most part they weren't rivals either. Their carrers seldomly entertuine before Baby Jane and normaly they took on completly different roles. Even all the bickering after Baby Jane can have been more of them taking advantage of the public's interest on a possible feud than actual bad blood between the two. The channel Be Kind Rewind has a great video about it.
Ivo Tiago look up what Davis said when she heard Crawford had died they hated each other let me quote Bette "You should never say bad things bout the dead only good" "Joan Crawford is Dead ." "Good!" does that sound like a fake feud to you LOL Yikes!
I grew watching the fallout from their feud. They hated each other. Joan Crawford was jealous of Bette Davis talent. She earned far more accolades than Crawford did. As a child I loved to look at Bette eyes. That how the song came about. Look up and watch one of her movies from the 30’s and 40’s. They were huge and so expressive.
I can assure all of you Bette Davis's and Joan Crawford's feud with each other was all too real but admittedly one sided: Bette Davis hated Joan Crawford way more than Joan Crawford hated Bette, Joan only said nice things publicly about Bette, while Bette publicly said the most vicious things about Joan she could think up - Bette was pathologically jealous of Joan for some reason. Bette had other enemies too: 30's star Natalie Moorhead detested her as did Barbara Stanwyck who found Bette to be greedily over ambitious while Natalie told a director that in a film Bette and her were in she told the director: tell the bitch to quit stepping on my lines !! Bette rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Note: in the 30's Natalie Moorhead was all over the place, she also starred with Clark Gable and Joan Crawford in a very early Crawford gangster film, (Clark was the gangster.)
Hollywood has definitely produced some amazing rivalries, but nothing beats the rivalry of sisters Joan Fontaine and Olivia de Havilland. Believe me I have a sister that I've been pretty much rivals with since I was a child, being 15 years younger than her. But that's a different story
I had a younger sister who was prettier but had a problem with sticky figures taking my things when she shouldn't. However, I loved her dearly and when she passed on I still remember her and my older sister with strong feelings of friendship since we were not raised the way the average parents did back in the 40s. Parents should take a more better and active role to become good parents. I feel my parents did a lousy job. LOL
Many woman in MMs era were emulating her or that idea of her and still do till this day. Even MM herself would basically say she was just playing a part. Its just the Hollywood Male gaze that studios knew they could sell. It’s the same thing that happened with Britney they had an image that worked so the rising stars in the Britney era emulated her looks her sound to make a career. But it wasn’t just the pop starts it was pretty much most young woman and young girls at the time were dressing and copying everything she did or you could say they were inspired by. All how you choose to look at things.
MM had a photo shoot just wearing a potato sack (old burlap type) once after overhearing a conversation by a couple of women commenting about her and what she was wearing at a party. Once the photo was published, the potato company who the sack she was wearing came from ran out of sacks and potatoes in about under a week. Other companies followed. Best bit of unplanned advertising ever!
MM re Jayne "degrading the image" - also not out of hand! MM ably trod a fine line, "putting it out there' with an innocent core. Jayne shot herself down; hyper-sleaze in the public face at all chances got people fed up.
No, Davis & Crawford's feud started over Franchot Tone. Davis was in love with him from a distance & was setting her sights on him, but Crawford ended up marrying him. Davis stated that Crawford knew that she had feelings for Tone.
In David Shipman's biography of Judy Garland he talks about her and Frank Sinatra having a fling, He wanted her to go down on him and sometimes sing "Over the rainbow" while doing it.
I was concerned on how hurt and emotionally damaged Judy Garland was. She truly got a bad rap during her childhood and despite her incredible talent, she still was envious of her daughter Liza Minnelli, who was great actress and wonderful singer too.
Tell us about Betty Jane !!! X ✔️ and about Jerry Lewis.What was the reason that they weren't talking to each other ? Sophia Loren was an exquisite beautiful woman ❤️ exclusive Thanks for the update Very interesting 👍
What dress are you talking about the one where Marilyn Monroe wore at the President Kennedy's birthday? I didn't hear about that. However, I did learn that Jayne Mansfield did admired Marilyn Monroe and was devastated that Marilyn Monroe died. Perhaps a lot of the talk was just for publicity which Jayne Mansfield was always going after publicity to keep her name on the front pages.
i'm always interested in reading or watching anything on the herzog/kinski friendship/feud one seems laid back while the other is overwhelming and intense.
The feud between Martin and Lewis shows sometimes it's just better to let things go instead of holding a grudge over silly reasons. Then again, just like so many things in Hollyweird, there's probably more to the story.
You hear/read more and more about completely unlikeable Kinski was: not just colleagues disagreeing with him, but people wanting to beat the shit out of him or even kill him.
Don't think the Marilyn/Jayne feud was that much of a feud. It just wasn't a part of Marilyn's nature to be mean-spirited. Never understood the Olivia/Joan feud. They looked more like identical twins than just sisters. Have mistaken them for each other in movies. Some astoundingly beautiful pics of Elizabeth.
I don't know why they were so mean-spirited which Olivia de Haviland never quite got over her sister's winning an Oscar for "Rebecca." Joan Fountaine was terrific in that scare type of a young girl role, which was well-deserved. However, Olivia beat her for the 2nd Oscar which she was proud of getting for her performance, "To Each His Own" and the second, "The Heiress." great films but each of these actresses were "A-Listed Actresses despite being sisters.
@@homegown1234 Have watched The Heiress several times and never tire of it. All the cast were on point and did a phenomenal job. Clift was amazing. Handsome and debonair and cloying all at the same time. Her father in the movie made the most of his part but she got him near the end.
Jayne in 1967: Maybe Mamie, Marilyn was lucky. Mamie van Doren Jayne on MM's suicide: The one of the greatest tragedies in the world. MM on Jayne: the girls who try me, they haven't got the foreground and they haven't got the background.
@@glenholman1867 yes, that was during the summer of love and the Vietnam war. She was not really a devil worshipper. There is a picture that shows her state of mind.
That's for sure. Marilyn was referring to her Downside background but it turned out favourable the audience I loved her at the box-office being Cinderella of Hollywood.
Tell full stories! NOT out of hand: Debbie & Liz fast friends again (Liz owned up tearfully on boat) made TV film "These Old Broads" with daughter-stepdaughter Carrie Fisher the scripter; Liz left Debbie fab jewels on dying.
Didn't she die around the time that Sharon Tate was just becoming known? People forget that Sharon Tate was not a big star. She was becoming more well known in those few years before her horrific murder.
You're wrong about Hearst and Welles: although true Hearts was angry about "the portrayal", it was * not * Welles' portrayal of Hearst that angered him. Hearst was angry about how Welles slurred the images of Hearst's girlfriend, as were many in Hollywood. Welles even admitted he'd made up his study of her abs a failure, and he admitted it was wrong to make fun of her in the way he did: she was a very talented and well- respected actress, and apparently also a really nice human being. Many in Hollywood said this, and were shocked and angered by Welles turning into the drunk failure he did That is why Heart attacked Welles, * not * because of Welles' portrayal of him.
The Lewis/Martin feud was partly made up. They did interact a lot due to the fact they were both A listers and were often in the same place. At a Bing Crosby gig they did a skit
I remember Marilyn very well, I remember where I was when I heard that she died. I really don't think that Jane was anything more than a bug on her windshield. Kim is famous for being famous, that's all, there is no current Marilyn never was and never will be.
I agree. Marilyn was and will remain the most beautiful Hollywood star ever and even the most beautiful woman. What she accomplished considering her upbringing is astounding.
It was that the most beautiful girl in any crappy town moved to Hollywood to make it big, and ugly girls didn't. Naturally, all the most beautiful girls in one place are only the ones who moved there. To this day, Hollywood has gorgeous waitresses, extras, salesgirl, etc., because they all grow up being the prettiest in their town and go to Hollywood, only to find out that they are not the prettiest in Hollywood, and get regular jobs. I worked in Hollywood in the early 90s and it was the same, all the teen movies then were kids from every podunk town in the country. No one stupendous looking is going to move to Kansas...they go where the money and opportunities are...
Here in Europe Mamie van Doren was considered that title. Jayne was seen as a star in her own right and since her visit in Holland very popular here. And she was much more professional than Monroe.
Honestly I feel really bad for the sad life Monroe had growing up and all her issues but she is way too idolized and for what? Being the biggest sleaziest actress up to that point? There’s even going to be ANOTHER movie about her life coming out soon. At this point I don’t know who’s life has been made into a movie more, Marilyn Monroe or Ted Bundy.
gigglyme2001, What was sleazy about Marilyn? Have you ever even seen a movie she was in? She was terrific at comedy. How To Marry a Millionaire with MM and Betty Grable and Lauren Bacall remains one of my favorite 50's movies. In real life Marilyn worked to better herself. She was an avid reader. She was not a partier and didn't have a flashy lifestyle. People made up so much fiction about her and still do. She dressed in an understated way unless she had a big event where she needed to be the movie star. There is a video on TH-cam of her attending Clark Gable's son's christening. She arrives dressed elegantly but not flashy. One can get a good sense of her from it. There was nothing sleazy about her, quite the opposite.
So glad Debbie Reynolds and Elizabeth Taylor reconciled. Both were dynamic actresses. They are now with Ms. Reynolds' daughter Carrie Fisher chomping it up. I admired all 3 of these amazing ladies...
Olivia "DEE" Haviland!?? ☹😠 For Heaven's sake, pronounce names correctly! 😡 Names are easy to hear online, and it's widely known that the (original) French would have had a short e. *Show respect please.*
Marilyn had nothing to be Jealous of and she had one time JFK Marilyn will always be Marilyn but I do not think it is fair to smash Jayne's name either she was gorgeous as was Marilyn they were both smart and both died too soon one in a tragic accident the other by the malicious hands of the Psychiatrist she once trusted
I never post negative feedback, BUT, you lost me at "Dee" Haviland. How can I take your channel seriously when you mispronounce a major star's name? I'm embarrassed for you!
* After Marilyn Monroe's death Jayne Mansfield hoped to get the role in the film MM was dropped from prior to her death. Instead the film was produced with Doris Day. 😧
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What do you think about these feuds?
Some seem understandable lines were crossed x
I have always disliked Olivier seen something nasty in her for sure, so this article proves it.
Childish.
In the end I believe most would agree on the time wasted. Energy.
But yeah, totally agree some situations seem warranted.
Bottom line the machine needs fuel for ratings and their money. Sad that true feelings or misunderstandings, whatever, become fodder.
Lovely day to all, happy thoughts!! 😁❤️
I am old enough to remember Martin and Lewis movies they still stand up to anything current 😮❤❤
A Marlon Brando biopic is long overdue. In order for it to resemble reality in anyway, it has to be rated R.
Hollywood wouldn't allow it, they don't like rebels.
Geez! I never knew De Havilland lived so long! And her sister too. Some good genes in that family.
Anyone Errol Flynn kissed lived a long life.
I liked Olivia but never like Joan Fontaine.
Mansfield wardrobe Malfunction ? Hardly Jayne just loved to be sexy and no man ever complained.
Frank Worth took that famous pic. at the nightclub Ciro's (I think) in Hollywood. All the stars would meet there, the rat pack, Dean, Brando just about everyone in Hollywood.
Mansfield was a satanist. Hung out with Anton Le Vay as did Sammy Davis Jr
Many stars do it.
What I learned recently about Marilyn Monroe and Jayne Mansfield both were smart ladies with high IQs but for the life of me why didn't they played their cards better especially Marilyn who was upset when she learned Elizabeth Taylor playing Cleopatra was going to get 2 million dollars while Marilyn lived in a small house without the luxuries which she would have liked to have had and plenty of money. I believe her disposition not being available to the directors and producers of those projects due to her mental health issues caused her to lose so much more than money, but her reputation was tarnished for years.
I think Joan Crawford’s real resentment was towards Norma Shearer, who kind of cared less about what Crawford thought.
I'm certain that Jayne Mansfield pictures came in... "Handy" for countless teenage boys.
I love Vera Jayne Mansfield. Her daughter Mariska Hagaritay from LAW and Order SVU. Is a hottie too.
@@williebowen2965I am rather uninterested in her daughter.
When Elizabeth Taylor died ,she left Debbie Reynolds a couple pieces of diamond jewelry.
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I don't think Mansfield ever Rose to the level of "A" list.
She did actually. She got the top billing in few movies, including the starring role in _The Girl Can't Help It_ (1956) which became one of the biggest successes of the year, earning more than let's say _Gentlemen Prefer Blondes_ had three years earlier with Monroe. Her film career however would suffer several setbacks and she was often unable to fulfill the contract due to repeated pregnancies, so Fox stopped viewing her as their mainstream star .
Not that I would be a fan of her work, just a note of hand to keep some of her records straight. Mansfield herself was a major movie star for a while, able to attract large audiences also overseas. Anyway, her adoption of Monroe's style and mannerisms would eventually also turn against her. After the death of her senior rival, Hollywood didn’t want to be reminded of blondes and she herself passed away tragically shortly.
At her peak she was considered that. Let's not forget that she was already pretty popular in New York City thanks to her Broadway success. So the leap into Hollywood wasn't that big of a gap. She starred in two major movies back to back, and had a few modest successes afterward. Sadly her peak ended very quickly and her downfall was attributed to many factors:
1. Repeated pregnancies that effectively kept her out of work for 2 years
2. Her marriage to Mickey Hargitay, angering studio executives
3. Tawdry and cheap publicity stunts that led her getting dropped by her fashion label
4. Getting shipped off to make cheap European films for years, keeping her out of the Hollywood eye
5. Over spending in her personal life leading her to take any job that came her way
6. The death of Marilyn Monroe marking the end of the blond bombshell
7. And most importantly (at least in my opinion), her unwillingness to take the role of Ginger on Gilligan's Island.
Despite these drawbacks, Jayne was still very popular and sought after in her own right. She had a successful Las Vegas revue and Nightclub tour. But the 60s was a much different time than the 50s and Jayne's body type and general aging in years just didn't fit with them. She tried to cling to being a sex symbol but 5 children and three failed marriages worked against that image. By the end, she became less of a glamorous Hollywood actress and more of a Kim Kardashian-type celebutante.
I think if she had been on Gilligan's Island, she would've had steady work and she'd still have mega star status. But she was too proud to be a "television" star and insisted that she just do movies in starring roles. She may have had some breathing room to rework her image to something more dramatic.
Poor man's Marilyn
Jayne Ji was rather fantastic.
@@KaboombooI am frankly rather pleased that Jayne Ji didst not agree unto take on a television role. She was a Movie Star rather. And Always.
What Brando did to Frank, intentionally mess up his own lines is cruel, brilliant and hysterical.🤭😂🤣
Kim Kardashian thinks she's the Marilyn Monroe of this generation but she seemingly is more similar to Jayne Mansfield lol. She should have dressed as her at the Met Gala instead
Agree! 🖤
Gigi Marilyn was alot smarter than people would give her credit for
Totally agree. Kim shows Jayne's over-built, over-hyped supersleaze - with nothing like MM's witty cleverness with words; fearless social conscience; and balance of innocence with star quality.
@@aprilgosa5779 100%
don't even offend jayne mansfield by comparing her to that piece of trash kim kardashian
The very last story was ...damn. The extras were more than willing to kill the guy off as a favor. Now that's power.
The feud that Ryan Murphy did was on point
The Crawford vs Davis feud was the irresistable force meeting the immoveable object.
You'd be surprised what money can buy when your in a family of Special Intelligence...
First? Side note, I like this channel 😀
Sophis Loren is a class act.
Feuds that happen in the press either aren’t true at all or lack nuance at the very least.
Glad that Elizabeth and debbie made peace with each other 🙏
Debbie said she blamed Eddie more than Liz Eddie took advantage of a grieving woman
@@aprilgosa5779 true plus eddie was the one with a commitment to debbie
I am rather not interested in that. Also I am rather not keen at all upon the radical elizabeth taylor. Female rivalry is rather interesting and natural.
Both were great actresses especially Elizabeth but Debbie showed she had many talents that directors and producers weren't willing to see. Despite her Oscar nomination "The Unsinkable Molly Brown." However, being placed in certain types of funny movies never got the vehicle to do more serious roles like, "The Rat Race with Tony Cutis which she was great playing opposite Tony. However, those were the breaks in being type-cast as she was. I recalled that Ginger Rogers got tired of playing opposite Fred Astaire and decided to push for other roles which she got an Oscar immediately after playing single pregnant mother in "Kitty Foyle" back in 1941. It was worth it since she played many other roles even "The Black Widow" which we never guessed she was the killer. Ginger was wise to push for those roles which helped her achieve more accolades.
Don't ever ever ever mess with Sinatra.... Unless you're Don Rickles.
After watching this, The only thing I ended up being concerned with is that poor monkey! 12:46 😨
The green gardener....I know hey, he just threw it down so fast. It was so little and cute. I hope it landed in water.
I had not heard that Abbott and Costello weren't friends.
The Davies - Crawford feud is fabricated for the most part. Sure, they weren't friends but for the most part they weren't rivals either. Their carrers seldomly entertuine before Baby Jane and normaly they took on completly different roles. Even all the bickering after Baby Jane can have been more of them taking advantage of the public's interest on a possible feud than actual bad blood between the two. The channel Be Kind Rewind has a great video about it.
Ivo Tiago look up what Davis said when she heard Crawford had died they hated each other let me quote Bette "You should never say bad things bout the dead only good" "Joan Crawford is Dead ." "Good!" does that sound like a fake feud to you LOL Yikes!
@@aprilgosa5779 I guess you can dislike someone and not exactly have an open feud with them
I grew watching the fallout from their feud. They hated each other. Joan Crawford was jealous of Bette Davis talent. She earned far more accolades than Crawford did. As a child I loved to look at Bette eyes. That how the song came about. Look up and watch one of her movies from the 30’s and 40’s. They were huge and so expressive.
I can assure all of you Bette Davis's and Joan Crawford's feud with each other was all too real but admittedly one sided: Bette Davis hated Joan Crawford way more than Joan Crawford hated Bette, Joan only said nice things publicly about Bette, while Bette publicly said the most vicious things about Joan she could think up - Bette was pathologically jealous of Joan for some reason. Bette had other enemies too: 30's star Natalie Moorhead detested her as did Barbara Stanwyck who found Bette to be greedily over ambitious while Natalie told a director that in a film Bette and her were in she told the director: tell the bitch to quit stepping on my lines !! Bette rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Note: in the 30's Natalie Moorhead was all over the place, she also starred with Clark Gable and Joan Crawford in a very early Crawford gangster film, (Clark was the gangster.)
There’s an entire show called Feud on Hulu….. and it’s all about the Davis- Crawford feud. It was real, and it was sad.
Hollywood has definitely produced some amazing rivalries, but nothing beats the rivalry of sisters Joan Fontaine and Olivia de Havilland. Believe me I have a sister that I've been pretty much rivals with since I was a child, being 15 years younger than her. But that's a different story
Yea but I bet you guys really love each other deep down
@@Maximus5775They art not 'guys' rather.
@@kiranjitKaur61 yeah I guess us guys love are brothers no matter what
I had a younger sister who was prettier but had a problem with sticky figures taking my things when she shouldn't. However, I loved her dearly and when she passed on I still remember her and my older sister with strong feelings of friendship since we were not raised the way the average parents did back in the 40s. Parents should take a more better and active role to become good parents. I feel my parents did a lousy job. LOL
Many woman in MMs era were emulating her or that idea of her and still do till this day. Even MM herself would basically say she was just playing a part. Its just the Hollywood Male gaze that studios knew they could sell. It’s the same thing that happened with Britney they had an image that worked so the rising stars in the Britney era emulated her looks her sound to make a career. But it wasn’t just the pop starts it was pretty much most young woman and young girls at the time were dressing and copying everything she did or you could say they were inspired by. All how you choose to look at things.
MM had a photo shoot just wearing a potato sack (old burlap type) once after overhearing a conversation by a couple of women commenting about her and what she was wearing at a party.
Once the photo was published, the potato company who the sack she was wearing came from ran out of sacks and potatoes in about under a week. Other companies followed.
Best bit of unplanned advertising ever!
That Joan Fontaine/Olivia DeHaviland feud makes me not want to see another film by either. How petty can you get?
Having to keep eating cheesecake doesn't sound so bad, lol!
Hmmm.
It’s pretty bad when the locals are offering to take the man out. Allegedly.
Enjoyed the video, thank you ❤️
MM re Jayne "degrading the image" - also not out of hand! MM ably trod a fine line, "putting it out there' with an innocent core. Jayne shot herself down; hyper-sleaze in the public face at all chances got people fed up.
Do a video about Hollywood Heartbreak couples ? Please
If the feuds between Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, and Marilyn Monroe and Jayne Mansfield escalated into actual fistfights, I wonder who would've won
All of these long time fueds are sad of course but the worst one by far are the sisters, especially since they never reconciled.. so sad 😞
Oh I don't know threats of murder, sincere threats is damned hard to top.
I do rather not find it all sad. Female rivalry is rather natural and healthy and interesting. Jayne Mansfield Ji was rather Grand.
I remember seeing the headlines when Eddie Fisher married Liz Taylor, what a scandal
It really had a bad effect on EF's career.
That was thoughtful of the native tribe to offer to kill kinski.
Wasn't it !
Their feud started over Franchot Tone who had a thing for Bette Davis but ended up marrying Joan Crawford
Thank you, I don't think they did their true research on the Crawford and Davis feud, it all started over a man-Franchot Tone
@@jonathanwray739That doth rather make good sense.
No, Davis & Crawford's feud started over Franchot Tone. Davis was in love with him from a distance & was setting her sights on him, but Crawford ended up marrying him. Davis stated that Crawford knew that she had feelings for Tone.
Crawford married Tone and divorced him.
Interesting content, but distracting music. I couldn’t finish.
In David Shipman's biography of Judy Garland he talks about her and Frank Sinatra having a fling, He wanted her to go down on him and sometimes sing "Over the rainbow" while doing it.
I was concerned on how hurt and emotionally damaged Judy Garland was. She truly got a bad rap during her childhood and despite her incredible talent, she still was envious of her daughter Liza Minnelli, who was great actress and wonderful singer too.
Funny that Don Corleone was harassed by the Mob.
Peter Lawford was who introduced Marilyn AND Jane to JFK. Was he pimping on behalf of the president??
Yes
He was notorious for it .
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Fisher & Reynolds marriage was already on the rocks.
Tell us about Betty Jane !!! X ✔️ and about Jerry Lewis.What was the reason that they weren't talking to each other ? Sophia Loren was an exquisite beautiful woman ❤️ exclusive Thanks for the update Very interesting 👍
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Egos, greed and entitlements....oh my!! Great upload! Happy Sunday 😄
Those feuds were such a waste of time...
No.
And SHAME on her for trying to fit that "figure" into a Marilyn Monroe dress and ruining it 😢
What dress are you talking about the one where Marilyn Monroe wore at the President Kennedy's birthday? I didn't hear about that. However, I did learn that Jayne Mansfield did admired Marilyn Monroe and was devastated that Marilyn Monroe died. Perhaps a lot of the talk was just for publicity which Jayne Mansfield was always going after publicity to keep her name on the front pages.
i'm always interested in reading or watching anything on the herzog/kinski friendship/feud one seems laid back while the other is overwhelming and intense.
Do a video about Famous politician who was assassinated
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"row" in the English sense of the word, meaning "Fight" is pronounced "RAO"
mansfield has such a modern look
The feud between Martin and Lewis shows sometimes it's just better to let things go instead of holding a grudge over silly reasons. Then again, just like so many things in Hollyweird, there's probably more to the story.
You hear/read more and more about completely unlikeable Kinski was: not just colleagues disagreeing with him, but people wanting to beat the shit out of him or even kill him.
Don't think the Marilyn/Jayne feud was that much of a feud. It just wasn't a part of Marilyn's nature to be mean-spirited. Never understood the Olivia/Joan feud. They looked more like identical twins than just sisters. Have mistaken them for each other in movies.
Some astoundingly beautiful pics of Elizabeth.
I don't know why they were so mean-spirited which Olivia de Haviland never quite got over her sister's winning an Oscar for "Rebecca." Joan Fountaine was terrific in that scare type of a young girl role, which was well-deserved. However, Olivia beat her for the 2nd Oscar which she was proud of getting for her performance, "To Each His Own" and the second, "The Heiress." great films but each of these actresses were "A-Listed Actresses despite being sisters.
@@homegown1234 Have watched The Heiress several times and never tire of it. All the cast were on point and did a phenomenal job. Clift was amazing. Handsome and debonair and cloying all at the same time. Her father in the movie made the most of his part but she got him near the end.
Jayne in 1967: Maybe Mamie, Marilyn was lucky. Mamie van Doren
Jayne on MM's suicide: The one of the greatest tragedies in the world.
MM on Jayne: the girls who try me, they haven't got the foreground and they haven't got the background.
She was connected to Anton lavey and the church of satan in her later years.
@@glenholman1867 yes, that was during the summer of love and the Vietnam war. She was not really a devil worshipper. There is a picture that shows her state of mind.
Jayne Mansfield had a far more better background than Monroe.
That's for sure. Marilyn was referring to her Downside background but it turned out favourable the audience I loved her at the box-office being Cinderella of Hollywood.
@@ingmarvandesande3235 Absolutely correct Ingmar
Mansfield was famous for wardrobe malfunctions. Tawdry woman.
As a Bolivian I can confirm that Peruvians are pretty much like that.
Tell full stories! NOT out of hand: Debbie & Liz fast friends again (Liz owned up tearfully on boat) made TV film "These Old Broads" with daughter-stepdaughter Carrie Fisher the scripter; Liz left Debbie fab jewels on dying.
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i heard jayne was happy that marilyn died because she thought she was gonna be the new marilyn
That's a gross speculation. Unless she actually said that, it's disgusting that people would spread hearsay.
Many set hairdressers recalled years later, that Jayne Mansfield arrived on set with dirty fingernails and smelled like body odor lol
Well, with children and many animals unto take care of, couldst one rather wonder at that?
Mansfield also hated Sharon Tate as well
Didn't she die around the time that Sharon Tate was just becoming known? People forget that Sharon Tate was not a big star. She was becoming more well known in those few years before her horrific murder.
@@ccgrey8731 Sharon went out for cat women and Ginger on Gilligans island Jane did same thing sharon thought Mansfield was a hack
background music distracts. I don't want to finish video
You're wrong about Hearst and Welles: although true Hearts was angry about "the portrayal", it was * not * Welles' portrayal of Hearst that angered him. Hearst was angry about how Welles slurred the images of Hearst's girlfriend, as were many in Hollywood. Welles even admitted he'd made up his study of her abs a failure, and he admitted it was wrong to make fun of her in the way he did: she was a very talented and well- respected actress, and apparently also a really nice human being. Many in Hollywood said this, and were shocked and angered by Welles turning into the drunk failure he did
That is why Heart attacked Welles, * not * because of Welles' portrayal of him.
Jane was a more natural beauty than Marilyn IMO 🤷🏼♀️
Perhaps so.
IMDb claimed Mansfield also had affair with Rfk ! Mansfield had the same flings with the same men as Monroe!
The Lewis/Martin feud was partly made up. They did interact a lot due to the fact they were both A listers and were often in the same place. At a Bing Crosby gig they did a skit
Totally should do a vote on all the founding fathers' feuds lol petty boys for sure
I remember Marilyn very well, I remember where I was when I heard that she died. I really don't think that Jane was anything more than a bug on her windshield. Kim is famous for being famous, that's all, there is no current Marilyn never was and never will be.
Jayne Mansfield Ji was rather super.
I agree. Marilyn was and will remain the most beautiful Hollywood star ever and even the most beautiful woman. What she accomplished considering her upbringing is astounding.
I wonder if it was the hormones in the milk, and the diets besides the genes that created the blond bombshells of the 50s. They were perfect looking
It was that the most beautiful girl in any crappy town moved to Hollywood to make it big, and ugly girls didn't. Naturally, all the most beautiful girls in one place are only the ones who moved there. To this day, Hollywood has gorgeous waitresses, extras, salesgirl, etc., because they all grow up being the prettiest in their town and go to Hollywood, only to find out that they are not the prettiest in Hollywood, and get regular jobs. I worked in Hollywood in the early 90s and it was the same, all the teen movies then were kids from every podunk town in the country. No one stupendous looking is going to move to Kansas...they go where the money and opportunities are...
“Perfect”…
Surgery helped, yes Monroe had work done.
@@christineparis5607 Marilyn Monroe was a Redhead ,Jayne Mansfield was a dark haired Brunette.
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Yeah, everyone moves there with different hair..
Do a video about one hit wonders with Lala brown
Jane Mansfield just seems spiteful
Yes. She was rather Great. What a Woman rather.
I think Amber Turd is mommy dearest reincarnated
He fails to mention that the Todds and Fishers were close friends.
Jayne Mansfield was a poor mans Marilyn Monroe.
Some very lucky poor men...
Hey, she brought to this world the absolute gem that is Mariska Hargitay. So there.
Here in Europe Mamie van Doren was considered that title. Jayne was seen as a star in her own right and since her visit in Holland very popular here. And she was much more professional than Monroe.
@@danielucha1310 Absolutely correct
The dollar store version
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First comment on this amazing video
Betty Davis when you look at her older movies was pretty hot.
She was a superb actress, as was Joan Crawford.
She was beautiful in Now Voyager. A great movie.
Jayne Mansfield Ji was rather super.
Mariska could play her Mum, but I doubt she would want to.
No. She is rather different from her glamorous Mother Ji.
Do a video Huey Long
Honestly I feel really bad for the sad life Monroe had growing up and all her issues but she is way too idolized and for what? Being the biggest sleaziest actress up to that point? There’s even going to be ANOTHER movie about her life coming out soon. At this point I don’t know who’s life has been made into a movie more, Marilyn Monroe or Ted Bundy.
gigglyme2001, What was sleazy about Marilyn? Have you ever even seen a movie she was in? She was terrific at comedy. How To Marry a Millionaire with MM and Betty Grable and Lauren Bacall remains one of my favorite 50's movies. In real life Marilyn worked to better herself. She was an avid reader. She was not a partier and didn't have a flashy lifestyle. People made up so much fiction about her and still do. She dressed in an understated way unless she had a big event where she needed to be the movie star. There is a video on TH-cam of her attending Clark Gable's son's christening. She arrives dressed elegantly but not flashy. One can get a good sense of her from it. There was nothing sleazy about her, quite the opposite.
Why are you emphasizing the "de" in De Havilland (DEEhaviland) like that? sorry to nit pick, but that was hella annoying...
Mansfield got to Kennedy first.
I think it was all just plain jealously.
Could you possibly put more annoying repetitive music in your videos?
Don't watch it then
@@Mrs0Cow0Hater You're right, ignoring problems is by far better than trying to solve them.
So glad Debbie Reynolds and Elizabeth Taylor reconciled. Both were dynamic actresses. They are now with Ms. Reynolds' daughter Carrie Fisher chomping it up. I admired all 3 of these amazing ladies...
I am rather uninterested in all three of themselves. And elizabeth taylor was rather a radical. I am rather nicely Conservative.
Female rivalry is rather healthy and natural and interesting. The making up of two females is rather dull.
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Lots of false info here! Boooo!
Fred & Ethel.
Luck be a lady Frank should have sang it
Olivia "DEE" Haviland!?? ☹😠 For Heaven's sake, pronounce names correctly! 😡 Names are easy to hear online, and it's widely known that the (original) French would have had a short e. *Show respect please.*
Amen! Channel totally lost credibility. Sloppy work! If you want to be taken seriously, then seriously do your research! Or why bother?
BETTE DAVIS IS THE GREATEST ACTRESS OF ALL TIME. JANE RUSSELL was the most beautiful.
BETTE DAVIS ISN'T
@@williebowen2965 Bette Davis is.
Lmao, not Jayne being on here more than once.
Hooray.
Marilyn had nothing to be Jealous of and she had one time JFK Marilyn will always be Marilyn but I do not think it is fair to smash Jayne's name either she was gorgeous as was Marilyn they were both smart and both died too soon one in a tragic accident the other by the malicious hands of the Psychiatrist she once trusted
I do rather not believe the psychiatrist unto hath been malicious toward Marilyn Monroe Ji.
Jane was a beauty also
Jayne Mansfield Ji?
I never post negative feedback, BUT, you lost me at "Dee" Haviland. How can I take your channel seriously when you mispronounce a major star's name? I'm embarrassed for you!
Fecking nerve-wracking music.
Joan Crawford THE QUEEN 💜
Joan was an excellent movie Star but Bette was superior!
I love Betty Davis! She deserves more credit than she gets
* After Marilyn Monroe's death Jayne Mansfield hoped to get the role in the film MM was dropped from prior to her death. Instead the film was produced with Doris Day. 😧