Thats why they need to add sim damage, people would be much more careful and stop being too aggressive, nobody would ram if it means the end of the race for him too.
Examples: A guy rammed the car next to me and push it into me: 2.25 seconds. At LeMans a guy try to overtake me into the hairpin. He rammed my car sideways and use it to brake. He fly off track and I got a 4 second penalty for this "avoidable collision" Just crazy. Sometime when you start from behind you see guys ramming five cars and get no penalty. This system needs an overhaul badly.
it has to do with how you react to the contact, if you keep it gunned or turn into the direction of contact it will penalize you, if you get slapped just let off throttle for a moment .
I drove very carefully and fairly the entire time. Always careful not to cause an accident and not to ruin the race for other players. What good did it do for me? An S rating and never anywhere near the podium. My score went under 3000, so I had enough. I continue to drive fairly, but I also try to assert myself. Driving too fairly doesn't help at all, you get the penalties for the rammers anyway. Just had it again yesterday: 4 seconds for someone pushing me off the track. My safety rating has dropped to A, but my skill is at 3800. And I have reached the podium more often.
Yeah, driving courteously and leaving space leads to 4 people trying to shove past you in a corner with moves that would never work. You gotta slam the door shut at every opportunity, take the rear end rams as a compliment. Rubbing is racing, as they say
This is my story as well. Glad to see someone else have the same realization. I told people from the beginning that their new system would backfire (once I saw it in action). It rewards crossing the line ahead of the competition at all costs more than it penalizes ANY infractions. And since DR weighs in much heavier than SR, being slower and safer is like an anchor around your neck-it sends you plummeting down. I just stopped going online. I may end up just doing a private league.
I'm S rated with a driver skill of around 4960. I encounter very little blatant ramming but a fair bit of dirty overtaking where people will just barge their way through a gap that's way too small. My biggest issue is that although I can regularly get on the podium, in almost every race the polesitter will be 1-2 seconds a lap faster and disappears off into the distance, it's very demoralising never getting opportunities to win. It makes me question if there's even a point in playing.
I don’t think it was intentional, running wide there the wall is slightly angled. If you are not able to get back onto the track quick enough you hit the wall as it angles back in toward the pit wall.
Eh, I don't really want to start a bandwagon. There is a possibility that he may have hit the wall. I much rather we laugh at my misfortune together and I can easily get back my safety rating.
and as an added "bonus" the worse your rating is, the worse the drivers that they put you in with will be, which means that you're more likely to get penalized for getting rammed in the future. Source- got rammed into oblivion on my first qualifier, got penalized for it, and pretty much every race since something similar has happened. Now driving in fields of graduates from the 'Ray Charles Racing Academy" and "Stevie Wonder Speed School".
I think what has to be mentioned though is even through all of that, you managed to get yourself up from stone dead last on lap 3 to to a podium position within 10 laps. Even more impressive to read that you are doing this with a keyboard, not even a joypad or wheel! Hats off to you, I don't think your TH-cam name describes you at all!
It's impressive but exposes just how broken the matchmaking is in this game. He shouldn't be placed into lobbies with drivers that much slower, you can see in many of his Forza videos that he's leaps and bounds faster than most other players in any given race. He needs to be put into lobbies with drivers that have similar pace, but I wonder if that group of players is so small that it's not really possible.
@@Yantrus It probably comes down to how easy it is for everyone to get a really high skill rating in this game. Ive seen many new to FM people have 4900+ skill rating from just the qualifying series, which likely explain why there are seemingly always people 5+ seconds off the pace in every lobby :/
@@Yantrus There just isn't enough decent drivers in the game. The spec series, especially the current M3 one really highlights the issue. There's only 1 or 2 people who can actually drive in max rated lobbies, while the rest of the lobby is having a demolition derby 30 seconds behind
@@Randomii666ok but that’s a key part of the game, the game wouldn’t be anywhere near as entertaining if everyone in the lobby was a pro at the game Maybe if they had a separate mode for hardcore, but I don’t feel like racing sweaty ppl just because i won a few races
@@dokutah7374 And that's why we have the rating system... which does absolutely jack shit. It's kind of boring when you are max rated/near max rating, and your opponents have never heard of a racing line and can't stay on the track for more than 10 seconds at a time. There isn't enough people for the higher rated lobbies, so the game pushes literal first timers into the high 4000's and at that point it wouldn't matter if we didn't have the ratings at all
I dropped from S to B from understeering into the sandtraps twice :) I gained soo much time there that the +6 seconds of penalties were completely reasonable
THIS! Literally this keeps happening to me. It’s so infuriating when you try being a good sport, only for the game to punish you because someone else decided to be an utter spoon.
welcome to the club. at the moment i am on the point where i dont drive quali anymore cause i get punted away anyway if i start in the first row. and when someone dosnt leave space while overtaking cause they are blind i push/spin them out of the way. and the fun thing is if you do that u most often dont get a penalty. dosnt make any diffrence anyway wich safety rating you are :)
You’re right. It doesn’t. It even says it in the description of the ratings: DR is the primary pairing method. And SR is the “we’ll attempt to pair similar ratings” method. In other words, they reward finishing ahead at all costs- because the penalties don’t outweigh the in fractions, or are often assigned to the wrong person. So it pays to just cross the line ahead, no matter what you do.
The way you joined to race back at 3:40.....right in the middle of the track. that was for sure avoidable by you not the other. you just pulled like a boss right in the middle ....
Literally this happened to me yesterday. I went from S straight to B two races before the 10 races for the achivement. A highly skilled companion managed to T-bone me after taking a pit from the first place.
Twop people did this to me in the same race totally a 4.00+ penalty, straight from S to B instantly. Pissed off. As I was trying to get that exact achievement too, as I already had the 5 achievement with S rank. Also my skill has been reduced from 3500~ to now 3100~. Absolute joke.
@@darrens3 I feel you. Yesterday I managed to grind the achivement, it was a real delight to obtain it and not to care so anxious about the rammers anymore. For the skill points, right now I am at 4883, but I highly doubt it really means anything since I met so many way faster racers than myself even if I finish most of my races at the podium.
I like to know how the safety rating works. Got a penalty for 1 avoidable collision when sandwiched between 2 stay at S rating, 4 races later with 3 podiums and zero penalties in all get dropped to A 😐🤨. Keep the vids coming bro ✌️
I went from 16th to 3rd the other day and was about to pass 2nd as he had crashed. This loser intentionally blocks my path, spins me out, and I finish 7th on top of getting a penalty for his bullshit. The penalties in this game suck and reward rammers and sore losers.
So the main flaw I see with the system: It's very good at judging the first incident that happens, but any form of collateral that follows will make the system assume the crash was avoidable. At 0:04, there's a high chance this would have come up as "no penalty" But the collision shortly after at 0:07 was probably picked up by the game and assumed as brake checking, resulting in the penalty. Same as 0:17. The yellow car hit the green car first, spinning him out. Had you not made last contact with the green car, you would have avoided the penalty. Definitely a very awkward system full of loopholes. I hope they improve it in coming updates, but it looks pretty rough
It would be more entertaining if everyone raced fair and not slamming people on purpose. And goes from being an s rating to a b rating after 2 penitilys. Looks like i'll stick with gt7 fir competivive racing. At least its not all ramming here.
I would love to see these games implement a race director feature, in which 3 players were allowed to supervise the race and penalize (with consensus) accordingly.
Fun fact I get better races after getting dropped to B……as soon a I get a S rating people start playing like we are getting paid. Finally got those 10 in a row though😮💨
Bruh, in order to get 10 clean races achievement, I LITERALLY had to be last in quali, stop on track for 10 seconds, drive 30km/h, and ONLY THEN when nobody is around - I can start driving normally. I had to finish 10 races DEAD LAST and lose rating from 4700 to 3600 only to be sure I'll get the achievement.
Avoidable contact lol that was savage penalty!! not sure if the porsche hitting the track curb on the straight unsettled his car or if he was trying to commit manslaughter swerving on the straight
This exact same thing happened to me today. Just kamikazed me into a wall. Twice. Both times marked as 'Avoidable Contact' totalling a 4.00+ penalty. Ridiculous. Worst thing is going to B now puts you in with the rammers. So there's no winning or ever any chance of getting that 10 race multiplayer S rank achievement!
Same thing happened to me. Have been in S raring since I started the game and was forced off the track by a couple people and dropped to B. Holy hell, now that I’m in B lobby’s it’s a crap show of how people drive!
For me , the more frustrating is when u passed some one fair by the outside and they just glue themselves to u by turning into u while u go in the grass and many people passed u because the contact and the grass slow as fuck
Man, I just went from 4700 to 4500 skill points all because people kept bumping me off track and spinning me around. Was getting really good races last week where all sorts of people gave each other room to race. Now it's back to impatient noobs that LOVE to block me from a 12th place finish... 12th place! It's not like it was a podium finish but 12th!
Yeah same for me , always starting at the back for challenged myself and when i found this guy who constantly block me when i try to passed is so annoying, im at 4946 rating , and i just finish by pushing them of track like. The guy got 3 sec of penalities and still blocking me while logicaly im already in front of them
I have the same thing happened, I got on this morning to see the effects of two collision avoidance penalties in one race. Went from s to be with a skill rating of 4,812.
@IsuckAtDriving hello!! I knew who you were, and I was shocked I was in the same race! I just started watching recently because of your forza content. Really cool coincidence for me!
Ppl dont understand 1 major flaw with the penalty system once you hit a car in this situation taking your foot of the pedal and then gradually getting safe to move off again stops you getting a penalty. Keep the throttle down and think you can just go through gets you a penalty every time
Avoiding it would had given you the exact same penalty, but for off-track instead. Even oversteering and clipping the grass (and spinning out) gives you a damn 4 sec penalty
I really cant tolerate this kind of people. Like, Why ? That high on the skill ratings with S Safety shouldnt have this kind of problems. Im S 4775 and I see them regularly. The penalty system though NEEDS be fixed ASAP !!
while the penalty system does need to be fixed, the reason those kind of people are in S Safety in the first place is the fucking auto drive. Safety ratings went down to D? No need to worry, just auto drive all night and it'll be back to S like nothing happened.
This seems to happen a lot more in the GT series. People drive those things like they’re F1 cars always dive bombing every corner and trying to brake late. They don’t even try to avoid contact cause they think “rubbing is racing” smh. I stick to the touring cars mostly since you can catch them more easily if you do get spun out and it’s easier to avoid morons in them lol.
How is it possible that u brake so late on the brake line, if I don’t brake before or exactly when the brake line starts i end up not being able to make the turn at all
I got basically no stoped in a corner , I got both an avoidable collision and an off track penalty while he literally got nothing. They will get it sorted, I’m sure they will.
can you do some "guide" videos like when to brake , how to do setups in general. I'm in 4.8k rating but when its qualify there are some guys 1 sec faster than me. Im just unsure that am i doing something wrong or theyre just faster than me.
Pain.
But don't worry, you just need to do 5 clean races to get back into A🙂
ok
That's horrible lmao
Ah the good old competitive grind. That system can fuck off.
Good luck getting those ☕
that's no sense anyway bro. whats the point of all these ratings if u even can't see others ratings
Not only the victim gets a hefty penalty, but whats even more disgusting is that the rammers usually gets free of penalties.
Society irl but in Forza
@@azi9_ityWell said!
Thats why they need to add sim damage, people would be much more careful and stop being too aggressive, nobody would ram if it means the end of the race for him too.
@@alleksfc1167plus, make everyone has to buy the cars with real money so that everyone will as safe as they can lmao
Classic "avoidable contact". Yes so very avoidable having people turn into you out of nowhere.
Examples: A guy rammed the car next to me and push it into me: 2.25 seconds.
At LeMans a guy try to overtake me into the hairpin. He rammed my car sideways and use it to brake. He fly off track and I got a 4 second penalty for this "avoidable collision" Just crazy.
Sometime when you start from behind you see guys ramming five cars and get no penalty. This system needs an overhaul badly.
@@Standgedicht "advanced ai simulated penalty system" they said
@@JustGunnie"Built from the ground up" they said
@@JustGunnie Lol, not just AI, but "Advanced AI". When you dont have the substance to "speak" for your product, you use grand words to do the trick.
it has to do with how you react to the contact, if you keep it gunned or turn into the direction of contact it will penalize you, if you get slapped just let off throttle for a moment .
All those "avoidable contacts" are going to make people "avoid" playing this game multiplayer if they dont fix it
I’m already avoiding it. Fairer racing on GTA
It was so bad that I actually refunded the $1 I used to get game pass to try it out...
Car XP is already making me avoid this game
Unfortunately there is currently no other game with a better system of penalties or progression. Most of them are too mediocre in this aspect.
@@tasneemeddooi was a big racer in racing on gta , cleary the same think lol
I drove very carefully and fairly the entire time. Always careful not to cause an accident and not to ruin the race for other players. What good did it do for me? An S rating and never anywhere near the podium. My score went under 3000, so I had enough.
I continue to drive fairly, but I also try to assert myself.
Driving too fairly doesn't help at all, you get the penalties for the rammers anyway. Just had it again yesterday: 4 seconds for someone pushing me off the track.
My safety rating has dropped to A, but my skill is at 3800. And I have reached the podium more often.
Yeah, driving courteously and leaving space leads to 4 people trying to shove past you in a corner with moves that would never work. You gotta slam the door shut at every opportunity, take the rear end rams as a compliment.
Rubbing is racing, as they say
@@Majima_Nowhere It's a learning process. ;)
This is my story as well. Glad to see someone else have the same realization. I told people from the beginning that their new system would backfire (once I saw it in action). It rewards crossing the line ahead of the competition at all costs more than it penalizes ANY infractions. And since DR weighs in much heavier than SR, being slower and safer is like an anchor around your neck-it sends you plummeting down. I just stopped going online. I may end up just doing a private league.
Level 278 here, S safety rating, 4900+ never had this kind of problems you mentioned
I'm S rated with a driver skill of around 4960. I encounter very little blatant ramming but a fair bit of dirty overtaking where people will just barge their way through a gap that's way too small. My biggest issue is that although I can regularly get on the podium, in almost every race the polesitter will be 1-2 seconds a lap faster and disappears off into the distance, it's very demoralising never getting opportunities to win. It makes me question if there's even a point in playing.
Wow, ISAD, how did you get on the alpha testing team for this game? I can't wait until they release the game! 😁
this game has been available for almost a month now.
@@ieatmentoss17143 second penalty for missing the joke
@@Sanjit_V27oh nooo
@@Sanjit_V27”avoidable embarrassment”
Make a clip of it right away and send it to the developers so that the Cam5675 can be banned. Such players have no place in multiplayer.
good luck 😂
@@DunaldDog At least he has a chance as a youtuber, if he can actually pull this up I will be happy
Whether Need For Speed, Sea Forza, GRID, F1 or any driving game, there will always be those types of players who think they are Max Verstappen
I don’t think it was intentional, running wide there the wall is slightly angled. If you are not able to get back onto the track quick enough you hit the wall as it angles back in toward the pit wall.
Eh, I don't really want to start a bandwagon. There is a possibility that he may have hit the wall. I much rather we laugh at my misfortune together and I can easily get back my safety rating.
and as an added "bonus" the worse your rating is, the worse the drivers that they put you in with will be, which means that you're more likely to get penalized for getting rammed in the future.
Source- got rammed into oblivion on my first qualifier, got penalized for it, and pretty much every race since something similar has happened. Now driving in fields of graduates from the 'Ray Charles Racing Academy" and "Stevie Wonder Speed School".
At least you finished on the podium while the Pink Porsche was in the last places
I think what has to be mentioned though is even through all of that, you managed to get yourself up from stone dead last on lap 3 to to a podium position within 10 laps. Even more impressive to read that you are doing this with a keyboard, not even a joypad or wheel! Hats off to you, I don't think your TH-cam name describes you at all!
It's impressive but exposes just how broken the matchmaking is in this game. He shouldn't be placed into lobbies with drivers that much slower, you can see in many of his Forza videos that he's leaps and bounds faster than most other players in any given race. He needs to be put into lobbies with drivers that have similar pace, but I wonder if that group of players is so small that it's not really possible.
@@Yantrus It probably comes down to how easy it is for everyone to get a really high skill rating in this game. Ive seen many new to FM people have 4900+ skill rating from just the qualifying series, which likely explain why there are seemingly always people 5+ seconds off the pace in every lobby :/
@@Yantrus There just isn't enough decent drivers in the game. The spec series, especially the current M3 one really highlights the issue.
There's only 1 or 2 people who can actually drive in max rated lobbies, while the rest of the lobby is having a demolition derby 30 seconds behind
@@Randomii666ok but that’s a key part of the game, the game wouldn’t be anywhere near as entertaining if everyone in the lobby was a pro at the game
Maybe if they had a separate mode for hardcore, but I don’t feel like racing sweaty ppl just because i won a few races
@@dokutah7374 And that's why we have the rating system... which does absolutely jack shit.
It's kind of boring when you are max rated/near max rating, and your opponents have never heard of a racing line and can't stay on the track for more than 10 seconds at a time.
There isn't enough people for the higher rated lobbies, so the game pushes literal first timers into the high 4000's and at that point it wouldn't matter if we didn't have the ratings at all
Avoidable contact and Offtrack penalties have been bugged for Hakone Circuit.
08:45 finally the idiot found the wall he deserved
I am just in awe of your 4998 driver rating. Mid 3000's here (I deserve it) and now I understand your mad skills. Major props!
Stevenslice drive with wheel and the end of the story..wheel is always faster 🎉🎉🎉
wtf is that safety system lmao
I dropped from S to B from understeering into the sandtraps twice :) I gained soo much time there that the +6 seconds of penalties were completely reasonable
That's why i always regarded the entirety of Forza as a joke simulator, because that's the only thing it simulates accurately.
In fact, Forza is currently the game with the best penalty system, despite its flaws, since the rest of the games are still too mediocre.
THIS! Literally this keeps happening to me. It’s so infuriating when you try being a good sport, only for the game to punish you because someone else decided to be an utter spoon.
Been there man. It sucks, and the perpetrators almost always get away without one.
Safety system is meaningless. These beef jerkies you raced with were also S, and look how it ended.
@3:30 that was straight up bullying!! These massive clowns deserve to be reported!
welcome to the club. at the moment i am on the point where i dont drive quali anymore cause i get punted away anyway if i start in the first row. and when someone dosnt leave space while overtaking cause they are blind i push/spin them out of the way. and the fun thing is if you do that u most often dont get a penalty.
dosnt make any diffrence anyway wich safety rating you are :)
You’re right. It doesn’t. It even says it in the description of the ratings: DR is the primary pairing method. And SR is the “we’ll attempt to pair similar ratings” method. In other words, they reward finishing ahead at all costs- because the penalties don’t outweigh the in fractions, or are often assigned to the wrong person. So it pays to just cross the line ahead, no matter what you do.
The way you joined to race back at 3:40.....right in the middle of the track. that was for sure avoidable by you not the other. you just pulled like a boss right in the middle ....
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Yes that is my fault but that's not the main penalty focus and I did not receive any penalty for that.
"Avoidable contact".
It's the game that is avoidable... and I got an S rating for not playing it.
That pink Porsche Cam..something really did you dirty
Omg the first ford gt gameplay i could find 🎉😭
"ground up" 😂
"avoidable contact" 😭😭
Literally this happened to me yesterday. I went from S straight to B two races before the 10 races for the achivement. A highly skilled companion managed to T-bone me after taking a pit from the first place.
Twop people did this to me in the same race totally a 4.00+ penalty, straight from S to B instantly. Pissed off. As I was trying to get that exact achievement too, as I already had the 5 achievement with S rank. Also my skill has been reduced from 3500~ to now 3100~. Absolute joke.
@@darrens3 I feel you. Yesterday I managed to grind the achivement, it was a real delight to obtain it and not to care so anxious about the rammers anymore. For the skill points, right now I am at 4883, but I highly doubt it really means anything since I met so many way faster racers than myself even if I finish most of my races at the podium.
Feel your pain. Similar happened to me. You get penalized for getting caught up in someone's else's mess. Hope Turn 10 fixes this.
I like to know how the safety rating works. Got a penalty for 1 avoidable collision when sandwiched between 2 stay at S rating, 4 races later with 3 podiums and zero penalties in all get dropped to A 😐🤨.
Keep the vids coming bro ✌️
If I wanted to play a penalty simulator I would just play GT Sport. but now we have Forza Motorsport (GT Sport 2.0)
I went from 16th to 3rd the other day and was about to pass 2nd as he had crashed. This loser intentionally blocks my path, spins me out, and I finish 7th on top of getting a penalty for his bullshit.
The penalties in this game suck and reward rammers and sore losers.
So the main flaw I see with the system:
It's very good at judging the first incident that happens, but any form of collateral that follows will make the system assume the crash was avoidable.
At 0:04, there's a high chance this would have come up as "no penalty"
But the collision shortly after at 0:07 was probably picked up by the game and assumed as brake checking, resulting in the penalty.
Same as 0:17. The yellow car hit the green car first, spinning him out. Had you not made last contact with the green car, you would have avoided the penalty.
Definitely a very awkward system full of loopholes. I hope they improve it in coming updates, but it looks pretty rough
You have the patience of a saint lol no shot I’m staying in that lobby after the first ramming
thank you for reminding me not to waste drivespace on this game. was thinking of playing some today
It's so entertaining to watch what a drive. keep up the great content 👍
It would be more entertaining if everyone raced fair and not slamming people on purpose. And goes from being an s rating to a b rating after 2 penitilys. Looks like i'll stick with gt7 fir competivive racing. At least its not all ramming here.
Same thing happened to me last night. Went from S to B with “avoidable contact” just like this
I was 14 races in with S rank, until I had similar events like that intro clip - now down to an A rank 🫠
crazy how the rammer couldnt even hold 2nd
I got brake checked on a straight and got a penalty on my first multiplayer race and immediately got dropped into B, never touching it again.
yeah they need to re work this system, story of my online experience so far.
Perfect showcase of how much work this penalty system needs. IT's bWoKen
I would love to see these games implement a race director feature, in which 3 players were allowed to supervise the race and penalize (with consensus) accordingly.
Fun fact I get better races after getting dropped to B……as soon a I get a S rating people start playing like we are getting paid.
Finally got those 10 in a row though😮💨
Bruh, in order to get 10 clean races achievement, I LITERALLY had to be last in quali, stop on track for 10 seconds, drive 30km/h, and ONLY THEN when nobody is around - I can start driving normally. I had to finish 10 races DEAD LAST and lose rating from 4700 to 3600 only to be sure I'll get the achievement.
"Avoidable contact" Yeah as if you could easily prevent a car glitching onto you...
Another great video! I need to stop playing around and buy the latest Xbox with this game! I love the gameplay!!!!
Avoidable contact lol that was savage penalty!! not sure if the porsche hitting the track curb on the straight unsettled his car or if he was trying to commit manslaughter swerving on the straight
those penalties were unfair, good job with the final placement
When brake line users get bullied by non brake line users.
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collision sounds so aggresive for no reason
Ever had a collision IRL? Even with a 5mph hit, it feels and sounds like like it's a freaking earthquake...
3:29 OMG, it's really ennoying and outrageous, unclassy move... 🤬🤬🤬
This exact same thing happened to me today. Just kamikazed me into a wall. Twice. Both times marked as 'Avoidable Contact' totalling a 4.00+ penalty. Ridiculous. Worst thing is going to B now puts you in with the rammers. So there's no winning or ever any chance of getting that 10 race multiplayer S rank achievement!
This is why I just do rivals and don’t bother with multiplayer.
Did he know that was you, that was eft up bro😢
I just hope that because the game is still new turn 10 are working on fixing the penalty system.
I got a 3.5 sec penalty for a carbon copy of the accident in the first clip 🙄
Same thing happened to me. Have been in S raring since I started the game and was forced off the track by a couple people and dropped to B. Holy hell, now that I’m in B lobby’s it’s a crap show of how people drive!
For me , the more frustrating is when u passed some one fair by the outside and they just glue themselves to u by turning into u while u go in the grass and many people passed u because the contact and the grass slow as fuck
Man, I just went from 4700 to 4500 skill points all because people kept bumping me off track and spinning me around. Was getting really good races last week where all sorts of people gave each other room to race. Now it's back to impatient noobs that LOVE to block me from a 12th place finish... 12th place! It's not like it was a podium finish but 12th!
It infuriating, then when you lose your S rank and they put you in B rank its ram city, making attaining the S back again a slog.
Yeah same for me , always starting at the back for challenged myself and when i found this guy who constantly block me when i try to passed is so annoying, im at 4946 rating , and i just finish by pushing them of track like. The guy got 3 sec of penalities and still blocking me while logicaly im already in front of them
The penalty system is perfect with no obvious flaws. You were clearly trying to ram the spinning Porsche....
Seriously need to tweak the penalty system. I went from 4500 to 3800 in a couple of days cause of rammers doing stupid things.
Top reason I don't like playing with others. Unless its friends.
At least you still got good skill rating
l saw you in my game the other day when l was at B safety rating too. As a new player l was wondering how l got matched up with you 😅
Driver and safety ratings are frankly meaningless in terms of matchmaking, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
*The understeer is real*
I have the same thing happened, I got on this morning to see the effects of two collision avoidance penalties in one race. Went from s to be with a skill rating of 4,812.
gets a 0.5 sec for cutting track, but gets a 1.50 sec penalty for going wide on corner....
Safety system doesn't even work yet, hence why you run into 'skilled' rammers all the time.
8:46 is the best
I am UwU Neko Boi in this race in the green porsche!!
Hai 👋
@IsuckAtDriving hello!! I knew who you were, and I was shocked I was in the same race! I just started watching recently because of your forza content. Really cool coincidence for me!
3:25 that's sad boys
Ppl dont understand 1 major flaw with the penalty system once you hit a car in this situation taking your foot of the pedal and then gradually getting safe to move off again stops you getting a penalty.
Keep the throttle down and think you can just go through gets you a penalty every time
TBH, the second incident was avoidable, but it will cost you a lot of time. The first one was BS :/
Avoiding it would had given you the exact same penalty, but for off-track instead. Even oversteering and clipping the grass (and spinning out) gives you a damn 4 sec penalty
That's what make forza challenging 😌
But penalties works in both sides right? ....right?
I really cant tolerate this kind of people. Like, Why ? That high on the skill ratings with S Safety shouldnt have this kind of problems. Im S 4775 and I see them regularly. The penalty system though NEEDS be fixed ASAP !!
while the penalty system does need to be fixed, the reason those kind of people are in S Safety in the first place is the fucking auto drive. Safety ratings went down to D? No need to worry, just auto drive all night and it'll be back to S like nothing happened.
@@Brazio20 🤦🏻♂️
I also dropped S to B in like 2 races, but it was very easy to get back up. This is at 4930
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genuinely curious if you would turn off abs and tc if you have an analog keyboard?
Maybe but ABS on is very good in this game regardless analog or not.
First to last challenge 💪🏻
This seems to happen a lot more in the GT series. People drive those things like they’re F1 cars always dive bombing every corner and trying to brake late. They don’t even try to avoid contact cause they think “rubbing is racing” smh. I stick to the touring cars mostly since you can catch them more easily if you do get spun out and it’s easier to avoid morons in them lol.
I dropped from S to B in one race, beat that. It was at Spa, penalties are waaaaaay to harsh in Spa for some reason
Identical happened to me. Couldn't believe it.
@@darrens3 And I'm stuck at A, I even won 1 race with high level players, without penalties, so I guess I still need to play more to get the S back
Did they fix the car reflection?
KEYBOARD ACTION WITH NO TCS ON? BEAST MODE
How is it possible that u brake so late on the brake line, if I don’t brake before or exactly when the brake line starts i end up not being able to make the turn at all
3:35 why aren't you looking back when joining into traffic? lol
I got basically no stoped in a corner , I got both an avoidable collision and an off track penalty while he literally got nothing. They will get it sorted, I’m sure they will.
Gotta love getting hit and getting the penalty
我是你的粉絲 已經關注很久了 你玩得很好!
Are you playing on keyboard
The sound design on this game's pretty good. To bad they made it so grindy with the dumb car level thing
So thats why you didnt go at the start in that first lobby. That sucks!
I would have quit that race so fast 😂
Seems like the new Forza is prone to the exact same issue as GT7; a penalty system that doesn't work properly.
Bruh how did they not implement all the lessons learned from horizon 💀💀
R8 LMS is basically a Pay to Win
can you do some "guide" videos like when to brake , how to do setups in general. I'm in 4.8k rating but when its qualify there are some guys 1 sec faster than me. Im just unsure that am i doing something wrong or theyre just faster than me.
I just download tunes from nalak28 and jumpy. Yes tunes can help each car gain 1 second faster.