The Rise of MS13 and Militarized Mexican Drug Cartels | Borderland #5

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  • Today is the second in a two-part series on BORDERLAND, examining the MS13 gang and the massive crackdown taking place in El Salvador.
    Last week, we spoke with Alex Papadovassilakis and Steven Dudley of the organization InSight Crime, to talk about efforts to clear the country of gang violence, the 70,000 people who’ve been arrested, and the mega prisons that are housing them.
    This week, we do a deep dive into the origins of the notorious street gang and how they differ from Mexican cartels.
    The fentanyl crisis, what is tranq (as well as how it became such a massive and dangerous problem in areas known for street drugs), how these drugs are coming into the country, and what can be done to stop it.
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  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

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  • @thechi2848
    @thechi2848 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Cartels would not be as powerful if not for government assistance on both sides.

    • @hey_youtubeim_back2159
      @hey_youtubeim_back2159 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Such an understatement

    • @unclerog
      @unclerog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      RIGHT!!!!!??!!?

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then where would the US get their revenue! Yeah, corruption...

    • @ashog1426
      @ashog1426 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Empahsis on BOTH

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You $pelled a$$i$tance wrong.

  • @Mr_Farfi
    @Mr_Farfi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Really enjoying this series. Thank you

  • @joetayson397
    @joetayson397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I'm in Maryland. MS13 has been here forever. They are everywhere.

    • @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv
      @tittiesinmyface-cv1iv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I live in the san Fernando valley in cali Thiers a street here and their taggings are everywhere

    • @Lsdmtghb47
      @Lsdmtghb47 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You get along with them?

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome work, very educational.

  • @topdog73
    @topdog73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I admire how this guest is well informed unlike other youtubers or different newspapers 😮😮😮

    • @adox8574
      @adox8574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did he say that everyone doesn't already know?

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unorthodox

  • @barnabykent6698
    @barnabykent6698 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, this has a very high content vs noise ratio. Fascinating in-depth analysis.

  • @deezysthadonsworld1138
    @deezysthadonsworld1138 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro your podcast is sick

  • @JohnPArgueta
    @JohnPArgueta 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Strong interview. Thanks.
    Interesting books on guest shelf. Going to look for 2 on Audible.
    Can anyone shed info on the art photo behind him? Is that an album or book cover?

  • @Goofyjigga360
    @Goofyjigga360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My biological father is an MS13 member idk my biological father but I hope he gets arrested.

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why would you want him in jail if you don't know him?

  • @edmundoballadares3269
    @edmundoballadares3269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yooo SF valley 🎉🎉

  • @MDM0915
    @MDM0915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks…great episode.

  • @spaceman61
    @spaceman61 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They are in the United States by the thousands now … FJB

    • @ericm425
      @ericm425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Millions

  • @unclerog
    @unclerog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Howdy from the Last Best Place on Mother Earth...Montana...Great GREAT Video Guys...I learned much...LOVE IT!!!

  • @emmanuelperez541
    @emmanuelperez541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Coco would be so proud

  • @navy80to04
    @navy80to04 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Our government and cartel are the same group different color.

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Deep State.

  • @gabrielvela5011
    @gabrielvela5011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ll love to learn more about serbian criminal organizations operating in the U.S. that specialize in gun trafficking to Central America and Europe. Same old same, I’ll like to know more about what is less obvious to the untrained eye.

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really Serbian or (Kozovo) Albanian?!

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really Serbian or (Kozovo) Albanian?!

  • @manuelunzueta8809
    @manuelunzueta8809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s crazy that your grew up in the valley I’m born and raised in the valley I grew up on Langdon st one of the ghettoest hoods in the valley

  • @BenMassari
    @BenMassari 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey Rocco you down with Metal?

  • @이이-n4z8y
    @이이-n4z8y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Don't blame it on absentee parents. That has never been a problem amongst Euros.

    • @ltahoe9257
      @ltahoe9257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol bruh yall gassed each other. Have a seat

    • @이이-n4z8y
      @이이-n4z8y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ltahoe9257 Bruh isn't a word, yall isn't a word. No one was gassed in Europe. Only the u.s does that.

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@이이-n4z8y bruh yall trippin

    • @이이-n4z8y
      @이이-n4z8y หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@victorygarden556 Do you know any English?

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ yuh

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This dude I never even been to El Salvador

  • @mannyeldude4083
    @mannyeldude4083 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shout out to ms13

  • @Erica-m7l
    @Erica-m7l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    A LOT OF THE JOBS PEOPLE WONT DO FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE, ITS NOT THE JOB, ITS THE UNDERCUT PAY THAT MAKES IT INSANELY LOW, AND CUTS THE LOWER WORKING CLASS WAGES ACROSS THE BOARD AS WELL!!

    • @pinkoslayer
      @pinkoslayer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jobs people won’t do is something that the slave owners say to silence the sheep. The middle class and blue collar watching their industries being staffed by imported cheap labor know the reality.

    • @michaelmcgee2026
      @michaelmcgee2026 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Calm down

    • @RaisedxFist
      @RaisedxFist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I said the same thing pretty much on another issue.

  • @jonathanramos8414
    @jonathanramos8414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Im surprised he didn't mention the Salvadoran civil war 1979-1992. It was one of ronald Reagan's major foreign policy issues.

    • @eswinc7731
      @eswinc7731 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He did not mention the role of the peace agreement in El Salvador and Guatemala and how this impacted the development of this gangs…

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That he fomenteed.

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eswinc7731 remember the CIA was highly involved in helping train the salvadoran military in counter insurgency against the FMLN. School of the Americas. Also where the zetas were trained at too

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup for sure. That was a pretty hairy I guess their not that old but panama elsalvador Honduras to Columbia was enough to keep you sharp

    • @jonathanramos8414
      @jonathanramos8414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markcook9941 yeah latin America during the cold war was pretty shadowy

  • @MoellerMike1977
    @MoellerMike1977 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Have to take out the major Cartels like America did in Colombia and Mexico needs to copy El Salvador, on a much greater scale. W American took out the major Cartels in Colombia in the 1990s not stop Drugs and drug trafficking, but to keep Colombia from becoming a failed nation-state. Again, most Americans have no idea what is going on the Border and South of the Border in Mexico. I posted this before.
    We are not dealing with gang or mafia like like in America. America and Mexico are dealing Cartels are made up of former elite-trained personnel of the Mexican and various Central American militaries that were trained by best of the best of the French, Israeli and American militaries.
    Again, If one wants an idea what the Mexican government is going through on fighting the Cartels, this would be like the Los Angeles, El Paso, Miami, or New York Police Departments had to take on and get into a firefight with 60 members of the 101st Air Borne Division, or members of the 75th Ranger Regiment or Marines of 1st Marine Division or members of America's special operations command.
    That would not end well.
    And what would a Wall or gun control or the Immigration Bill do to stop any of this?

    • @Balla1309able
      @Balla1309able 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greatly put together! Right on

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't know this information. They don't care. Sadly. Great input though 💯

  • @thebaps1143
    @thebaps1143 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s fascinating to me that so many Americans think cartels are like our gangs. They fear MS 13 but do not understand how organized, well funded, politically powerful and violent the Mexican cartels really are.

  • @codygranrud6212
    @codygranrud6212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shout out to Sombre Negra. :)

  • @_nick_d
    @_nick_d 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bicycle Casino in LA was partially funded by Miami drug dealer, like 30M in early 90’s.

  • @shawncash6285
    @shawncash6285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From mobsters to Microsoft

  • @bignoseYeu
    @bignoseYeu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Anyone remember when los zetas would pull over immigrants from central America and check their tattoos. If you had any ms tattoos. You were getting picked up and disappeared

    • @slevinkulina
      @slevinkulina 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know the Latin kings did this to me in North Humboldt Park, chicago many many times walking through to k town. But always cool in county. Neutron here.

    • @Destroyer-s2e
      @Destroyer-s2e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had read an article that said that it was rumored that they went at it for a few months until they eventually called a truce. It also said it was on a reliable source but couldn't confirm . And they both lost members on both sides.

    • @phonymex3340
      @phonymex3340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@slevinkulina Lol a street gang who are a bunch of broke crackheads vs a Cartel Group is very different

    • @flonkplonk1649
      @flonkplonk1649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They had MS13 working for them

  • @dcesar117
    @dcesar117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At first in the title i read boogerland

  • @warmonger8799
    @warmonger8799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @Shilohii65
    @Shilohii65 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Near the end 40:00 mark this guy starts to sound more liberal than American. Their problem becomes our problem only because we refuse to mandate that Mexico fix their own problems. When did we become the fixer of every country that is affected by evil, by corruption, by inept country governments to successfully run their own countries? If your leadership is not doing well, then get better leaders. Sure there’s world commerce to be considered and foreign affairs, but for the USA to “FIX” every failing country’s problems is just not plausible or feasible. If that is to become the case, then the USA will become what we never intended to become, and that is the authoritarian figure head, like the British and Roman Empires, of many foreign lands.
    Is that what you’re referring to?

    • @51234ad
      @51234ad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ignorant comment

  • @justinhorn2864
    @justinhorn2864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Liberal voters say awe let's help them and open the border

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Send the liberals and their money across the border on a mission if they feel so strongly that they want to help.

  • @jw5297
    @jw5297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is naive! Sorry but i can't just go to Australia or Nee Zealand and just stay there.
    Both and many nations globally require visas and if you're staying must provide documentation and approval before you can just go.
    Why should America be any different?
    The security risks are not worth overlooking for feelings.
    We gave laws, and the first act you want to take being here is to immediately be a criminal!?
    What precedent is set!
    What does that say about laws imposed?
    If its okay to knowingly and willfully violate federal law, then why does any law matter we feel is unjust?
    Mexico is not doing anything about the issue now, and likely making shitloads of money from the very operations breaking our laws. Your solution is to pay them more money for the same behavior, what world are we living in!!!
    Unlike Mexico, the US gets its funding from its people, so we should keep paying the tab.
    Sorry but NO, the border must be closed, and people seeking to enter the US do so legally.
    Everything else is a perpetuation of the problem.

    • @pierceh.5670
      @pierceh.5670 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We will stop paying taxes before they close the border

  • @barbarahunter6960
    @barbarahunter6960 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sir we do those jobs. The problem is in the payment.

    • @Clipanomics-mk2yb
      @Clipanomics-mk2yb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wym payment? There’s some workers making 2k a check

  • @rickybobby1844
    @rickybobby1844 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    818 in the house !!!

  • @user-anc123
    @user-anc123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its inhumane to the American citizens

  • @alejandrocota5949
    @alejandrocota5949 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from Ensenada and cub was definitely a narco property

  • @billyhall4759
    @billyhall4759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Respect your enemy but seriously they will get smashed.

  • @wealthygypsy416
    @wealthygypsy416 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding citizens those gangs are they provide a good piece of funding for the cia & fbi they will continue to grow. Don’t worry citizens will never revolt

    • @markcook9941
      @markcook9941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. Lots of Ducky's Rollin to fund wars for training. Airdrop jungle force

  • @claudiaclaudia936
    @claudiaclaudia936 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MEXICO =#1 DRUG PUSHERS
    🤠👍🏿

  • @deshb22
    @deshb22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dudes just regurgitating information everyone already knows

  • @이이-n4z8y
    @이이-n4z8y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wr need a real look, not a cultural marxists opinions and feelings.

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You cant draw an imaginary line where one side is wealthy while the other side isnt, and expect the absurdity of it all wont backfire

  • @krisser92
    @krisser92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ms had a green light a couple years ago cuz they didnt wanna pay the tax

  • @brainwashed2586
    @brainwashed2586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It always amazes me how these so-called gang experts have so much insight and information about something they themselves have never been a part of. All of their so-called l fact is Information Gained second hand and repackaged to continue a narrative and a view that solely represents their own

    • @JK-vi3jm
      @JK-vi3jm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You gotta learn Spanish and lose atl 20 IQ pts before you can truly understand these th-gs.

    • @cathyvain7046
      @cathyvain7046 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And how do u know no one else represents their view? Are u an expert on that?

    • @brainwashed2586
      @brainwashed2586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cathyvain7046 your goddamn right I am lady

    • @themetaphysicalaxe5506
      @themetaphysicalaxe5506 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean all in all it's a gang and they're all the same, mostly, so kinda easy to be an "expert"

    • @brazydee420
      @brazydee420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh oh white krio keyboard warrior triggered! Yeah. Again gangs are pretty simple to break down. All & new structure over time and future. Always informants that tell it first hand so.

  • @glenmeyers1360
    @glenmeyers1360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:14 0:14 0:14 0:14

  • @NormieWeimarican
    @NormieWeimarican 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MS20 for life!

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉

  • @georgelabelle5938
    @georgelabelle5938 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cartels all work with and for the government

  • @lundysden6781
    @lundysden6781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ms13 dont doit

  • @canyoncajun
    @canyoncajun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys think if Rocco was a Roman during the great fall he would have referred to the barbarians as “ undocumented”?

  • @nicholas2827
    @nicholas2827 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy seems well meaning but elitist

  • @johnpancap844
    @johnpancap844 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No thank u to globalization

    • @ashog1426
      @ashog1426 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vote trump😅

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎉

  • @2RebelNomads
    @2RebelNomads 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉