Make Rocket Fired Charcoal
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- Using scrap, we build a homemade RETORT that is fired by a rocket stove. Firing up the retort for the first time, we successfully make charcoal from limbs in 5 hours. Estimate the 16 gallon bucket held about 2 bags of charcoal equivalent. We use the homemade charcoal to make a grilling fork and then cook a hotdog. The tools used include a buzzsaw powered by a 1953 Ford Jubilee tractor. A welder, chop saw, drill, and rotary cutter. The fork is forged from a 1/2"x8" rod. The purchased parts include the stove pipe which is about $60. Triple T Ranch & Sawmill on Choctaw Ridge is homesteading with a sawmill & anvil.
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Love the cutter!
Man it goes through sheet metal like butter!
And no slivers like from a nibbler!
I loved how you used the charcoal burner as a table afterwards! Brilliant video!
Excellent video! Informative and a pleasure to watch! I'll be making one of these for sure, thank you for sharing your videos with us 🇨🇦🍻🥓
Now that's what I am talking about. Making charcoal and using it to cook some dogs too. You should've invited me to the festivities. I do like a dog on a bun with mustard too. Let me know of future videos fella.
I do love the impressive way you made charcoal. Thanks for sharing us bro!
Thanks for watching!
👍🏻 for still tracing circles with various cans even though you have a compass handy.
Excellent process and a very efficient homegrown design, great job!
Seems easier and better to see how it fits. Thanks for watching!
Throwing wood on top and around the small centre drum and lighting it on fire works just as well as the stove setup here. You can use a small metal garbage can for the centre drum.
Excellent video! One the best for making charcoal. You are awesome man.Thanks sharing 👍🙏.
The use of rocket stove to create charcoal is great idea. It is energy efficient and less polution.
Yes sir it has some advantages. Got a new inner barrel to install which with a few improvements will be gen 3!
Ambitious design. I think it worked perfectly.
Love the saw set uo
what a great video! you folks are very clever making that rocket stove. I used to make it in oil drums with a 4 or 5 inch slot cut in one side - cord wood was cut to length and then wires wrapped round to hold it in place - once the fire was lit it was then rolled into a shallow pit and turfs stamped around the outside - it worked but not anywhere near as good as yours!
TFS
Ive seen vids similar to what you describe. Our inner barrel lid is about to go but it continues to produce coal. Thanks for watching as I watch yours too!
Cannot complain when you produce results like that.
Thanks for spending a little virtual time on our ranch.
Interesting concept. Thanks for posting it. Thumbs Up!
Thanks
I have watched 20 of these and yours seems to be the most clever and effective design . Great job!
Thanks David. I have made 50 buckets of coal now and it’s showing wear. Making a video now replacing inner barrel. I plan to make a higher capacity model when it succumbs to the heat.
I learned at least three things I had never even be curious enough to wonder why, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice Design. I made a similar Retort some years ago to make Coke for my Forge. Living in PA it is easy to get good Coal. I now use a Rocket Stove to make Bio-Char for the Garden. The principle is similar.
Yes I made biochar with chicken litter. Garden has never produced so well!
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill Did you use this same stove to make that also?
At first I thought you were going a little above and beyond but after watching the whole video you did a fantastic job that thing should last you a long time good quality workmanship thanks for sharing this I'm going to do the same thing James from Springfield Georgia
James I have made a lot of charcoal and completed many metal repairs as a result of having free fuel. It is really handy. The retort has lost all paint and has warped a little though but still works fine. My recommendation on the next generation is to make the rocket stove front loading so heat will not be able to escape. Also, i replaced the inner barrel lid without drilling holes. I drilled holes instead on barrel bottom. This is from viewers comments. Thanks for watching!
The completeness of the process (all charcoal), the feedback of the end of the conversion (temperature drop), and the complete use of all of the wood gas make me give you full marks! Would insulating the outer barrel decrease the process time to conversion and use less wood, as well? Such a simple design, the proof of genius.
Yes I added a jacket in "Enhanced Efficiency Lump Charcoal". But I have found if I go too fast with high heat, it does not penetrate to the middle of the product leaving those chunks that live in the netherworld! Neither coal or wood but in between.
Great rig! A few thoughts: an air duct at the bottom edge of the outer barrel, swirling air up around the inside barrel, gives the wood gas the ignition it needs, which'll make the whole process a lot faster, fuel efficient... (putting that air duct's intake pipe over the top of the burn box would pre-heat that air, too). Also, splitting the branches into really thin shingles, laying those stacks atop your burn box to pre-dry, will make a huge difference, too... that way, the air of the inner drum can circulate around the shingles better, transferring heat from the walls, (the wood itself insulates) and so it pulls a higher gas rate, keeps itself hotter. Should work fine :)
Anthony, i will consider these mods on the next gen when rust over takes the current retort. I may however install a ball valve as you suggest on the outer barrel. Thanks
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill maybe use some used oil on the outside of the barrel when hot. and maybe wipe get some bentonite slurry on the inside of the can? I am going to try both of those.
Thought provoking approach. Thanks for sharing. Also, I've never seen a buzz saw like that - it looks amazing. Lethal, and also amazing.
@@KenWeston sometimes I cheat the pyrolysis by pouring oil into inspection hole at barrel top. This will trigger the pyrolysis if you have cooked the wood for about 2 hrs. Its a secret so don’t tell anyone! :)
Your best video. That was awesome.
Thanks, we'll make some charcoal Thanksgiving.
I enjoyed this video. Very informative . I especially enjoyed the end when you made a Chicago style hotdogs 🌭 awesome sauce 😎 👌
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Thanks for watching!
Uowh!! great - the best design for a rocket I've seen at net...congratulations. If you protect externally the biggest drumm, to avoid dissipation, you time pyrolisis will be the half.. Loved your forge too, and the saw equipments...
Marcio sorry for not seeing your comment. I did wrap the retort to do just as you suggested:
Enhanced Efficiency Lump Charcoal
th-cam.com/video/lIeRC3DZ-gQ/w-d-xo.html
I watching this from Africa, Uganda in particular. Here most homes use charcoal as a source of fuel for cooking purposes. Trust me this has been an open financial idea for me. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thanks, I have worked in Cape Town a few years back. Happy charcoaling!
love the 8n - learned to drive on one - and that finger nibbler on it... we had one.. Grandad built 3 barns and a home with it. But the grandkids were never allowed to use the damn saw despite it being a glaring safety concern and us being so mature!. So I was only gifted with plowing snow and cutting the fire breaks with our tractor.
Brad its a Jubilee which is about the same thing. Your grandad was probably a man of salt and earth! Thanks for watching my wore out equipment videos.
I love the Whitlox forge!
cool video like , the coal making process and a great snack at the end ..
Glad you enjoyed it
Exactly my style. Awesome.
I love the fact that with a charcoal fired forge, you can make supper and your utensils.👍
Thanks for watching
Wow it's so great your very smart and thanks a lot this video God bless you.
Thanks
Man I LOVE that Jubilee and your saw setup! I grew up in the North and we had a 1941 Ferguson Ford 9N that we bought when I was 5. The best memories of my childhood up until I was 23 when my dad died were spent working with him after he got home in the evening working for Pontiac Motors (plant 8) in Pontiac, MI and on the weekends. We did so many different kind of jobs with that old tractor and it never did disappoint. Unfortunately my mom wanted me to sell it for her after he was gone and I reluctantly did but man I miss that tractor. I sold it to my neighbor and now It's just driven in parades mostly but I did try and buy it back with all the equipment I sold him but he tells me he never will so at least it went to a good home. It seems like tractors are part of the family sometimes and that one sure was. Thank for the video! Much better than spending a ton of money for that type of charcoal.
We can buy those tractors around here for less than $2K. Mine is worn out but is fit for purpose driving the buzzsaw. My sawmill runs off of my grandfathers 1964 Case propane tractor. Everytime I start it, it bring me back to hay fields and my grandfather. You should go get one like you had at 5!
I appreciate the kind reply and yes I'm trying to find one! @@TripleTRanchAndSawmill
Coolest thing I've seen on TH-cam for a while! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Very helpful information - fuming caulk, rotary power cutter, how to attach tubes.
Seems like a whole lot of work. I just use a barrel with one hole in the bottom which I aim my blower into and leg that burn until the woods starting to break up then i put it out. Bam done
Some need to work harder to get a job done. Notice the Kubota hat lol.
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Yep earned my subscription, love learning these types of things! Keep it up!
Thanks will do
Came out good. Great job
Great info! Thanks
I like the saw, it's very medieval!
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hello, very nice video has been a work. I request information on a subject. I saw holes above the section where wood was placed. but is there a hole under or beside it? thanks
The firebox is open to the barrel only thru the pipe flange you saw me bolt to barrel. Air comes in the top of the firebox, heats up, and goes thru the pipe into the barrel, around the inner barrel, and then up thru the stack on top of the barrel. Hope this helps.
The skills you have, EVERYONE will have to have if the cities in this country keep going in the direction they are!
yea I'm a practical prepper! I agree
Found this while trying to research efficient ways to make bio-char. I really enjoyed watching this video. Thank you for sharing. Seems to work very well as it is, but I do wonder if the following might give you a better return on investment? What about directing the flame around the barrel to create a vortex? Also wonder if insulating the main drum would reduce the firewood input. I also wonder if the wood gas outlet could be directed to reenforce the vortex. I'm just brainstorming with you. Thanks for the inspiration. Maybe I will test these questions myself and upload a companion video for you.
Thanks for watching my experiment! The vortex thing would probably be an improvement - better heat distrubution. When this retort fails I may try it on the next. I did insulate the outer drum "Enhanced Efficiency Lump Charcoal". It made a little difference. I found another flue pipe so its longer now so more draw. Not sure of the gas outlet comment, once pyrolisis starts, the process becomes self sufficient. BTW, I commonly use the charcoal in the fire box for biochar - mixed with chicken manure!
Great vid. You can also make biochar for your soil around the property.
Dude you read my mind. I have some composted chicken manure!
Nice. I plan to build a charcoal retort and appreciate showing me your build.
Doug good luck with build. When I build the next generation, I will make the rocket box larger and a slide into it as a feed to allow for automatic feed.
Great edited video thanks for the upload
Thanks
Thanks for showing.
You bet!
Man, it's nice to have a shop and a few acres of flat land.
land ain't that expensive if you look in the right places.
Thanks for watching!
That was really interesting. I have made charcoal in a 44 gallon drum before but just by blowing air into the burning wood. It works but you loose alot of your wood to flame.
Just curious, how much timber did you use in the firebox for this batch and do the embers from the firebox block the tube to the drum?.
As for the Black and Decker rotary cutter, I've gotta get one of those!
Michael, I have never measured the rocket stove wood and it does not block the pipe to the barrel. When I cap the rocket stove, there is usually charcoal in it too.
So the red color channel you welded between the box and the barrel was just for stability right?
Luke, yes I move the retort around a bit with my tractor. The barrel is the weakest link. So the red C purlin is left over from the shop build and was good enough for this project. Thanks for watching.
I think that if the lower flue came into the outer barrel at an angle (like a gas fired metal casting furnace) the hot gases would swirl around the inner barrel and heat it from all sides. Also it might be beneficial to have 2 fire boxes 180 degrees from each other.
Jerry, that will be in the next one when this one rusts out. I have had other great suggestions to tweak it. Its about to cool down here in texas so I will be lumping it again!
Thank You.
Ur welcome
Nice my Assyrian ancestors made the charcoal burning the wood and covering it up
I heard that’s the best way to make huge quantities. Thanks for watching
That tractor is a '53? Almost 70 years old and still running like a champ, nice. Usually on most rocket stoves there is a tube to feed the wood into and then a second tube to allow air in. I think that's where the afterburner effect comes from. Yours did it once the wood was out of the way.
Sure is! I could try a collar on the opposite side of the barrel for when pyrolysis is active. I really need to design the stove part better. Regards
Great job, love the rocket stove... Lot of work though for a sausage in a bun.
LOL but it sure is good!
Good job
Interesting, thanks
Thanks
Sounds(!) like you live in great place :) Nice video. All the best!
Thank you very much!
😢😢we cant burn nothing outdoors here in California. But the governor lets the Forest burn . I use to enjoy having a fire with my kids outdoors in the backyard. Relaxing.
Tony a campfire is good therapy, come to texas and live longer! Thanks for watching and hopefully you can sneak a backyard fire in sometime. The retort on the other hand will smoke up your entire neighborhood!
If your in California it will give you cancer if you build a fire. I sure glad I don’t live in that shit hole.
Kim
I used a trench to make charcoal one time. If you start after dusk then neighbors may see a flame but no smoke. And if you’re in a six foot trench the flames are also hidden from neighbors but they may see a glow or a little light reflecting.
I’ve not built a retort but want to one day. I’ve been looking at designs but haven’t done it yet.
But if ya got a farm or lots of branches and volume lookup the channel skillcultz and making charcoal in a trench. It’s good for volume but isn’t as perfect as using a retort but time and volume wise it’s good.
But ya a retort would seem good. I been going to build one to make charcoal out of apple branches we pruned a year ago.
@koltoncrane3099 hope you get it built! I am going to upgrade mine , it is close to burned out. If you build one with a rocket stove, i would suggest a bigger box so loading would be less often
Was it charcoal all the way down the barrel or just near the bottom where the heat hit the inner barrel? I am 90% done with my retort made after your design and just wanted to make sure it worked all the way through.
Yes the only time the production wasn’t perfect was when my nephew achieved pyrolysis in 2 hours. He kept the fire at full flame. I would change the fire box in rocket to load from front
I see that you used lighter fluid to start the charcoal in your forge. Doesn't that affect the flavor of the steel that you are forging/blacksmithing? ;)
LOL, yea smelling that first light makes you think of Saturday hamburgers in the back yard!
Awesome
I was planning my own build but decided a small pyrolysis chamber laid in my furnace would be simple. Make 5-10 lb charcoal every night all winter long.
that is a great idea. anytime you can get 2 things done at once ...
I like this video, very detail and easy for me to understand
Thanks for tuning in!
Do you have a video on how you made that forge?
Gavin I didn’t do a step by step video. Please look at “Charcoal Forged Double Hook”
That was way more effort than necessary. I've used this double barrel method, as well as the Haitian single-barrel method. The latter is faster and less expensive in both time and resources.
The quality I get time after time is great for the forge, nice chunks not much dust.
Thats awesome wish I had a place to do those things ,you lucky man.
Bruce you can find an acre somewhere. its a lot of work to move but worth it.
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill Im working on it ,Thank you.
Awsome video thank you for Sharing
Thanks for watching!
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill yes sir
Thank you so much
What kind of silicone is that..it could become hard & not to melt?
Dom, yes it burned up. here it is
www.acehardware.com/departments/heating-and-cooling/chimney-and-flue/chimney-brushes-and-accessories/49967?gclid=CjwKCAjw4MP5BRBtEiwASfwALyx4j2JHj5wjNMXShuOJe0OrDlVsqAWEX6M8eqHeVgf9H3L85AgatRoC7c0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Awesome, I want one 😁, hotdog too.
It's so good!
Good video Ill be making one like that.
Thanks
Pretty nice setup
Thanks, I’m thinking about building a 3rd generation retort. This one is rusty and much lighter now
FWIW, I've seen a number of folks wrapping rock wool around the chamber and chimney to build up the heat inside.
Keith that would be better but my rig is sitting out in the weather and it has to be ruggedized to make it at our place. So I added some roof tin to give it an airgap (have video).
Fair enough.
nice old tractor and saw attachment. Someone at OSHA had a stroke when you engaged the PTO
Thanks for watching!
Excelente saludos desde Uruguay ...
Luis, Gracias por buscar!
Very good job thanks for sharing
Thank you! Cheers!
Good effort, however the external fire box is entirely superfluous.
Drill or cut vent holes in the bottom of the outer barrel, if in the actual bottom, place the barrel on 3 bricks, pack your firewood in the gap between inner and outer barrels, including a few inches of material on top of the inner barrel, light, and install your chimney, you now have a TLUD Top Lit Up Draft retort. If you want to improve thermal efficiency, wrap outer barrel with rock wool insulation.
Now the rocket retort I want to play with would have the normal J-tube design with the bell being what you used for the inner barrel welded inside the bottom of the 55 gallon drum, with a pipe to channel the wood gas back into the fire, use the intact lid to seal up the top.
Fill 40 gallon void with your charcoal feedstock, start with fuel wood and see if the retort will take it the rest of the way.
Russell this comment makes for a great design. Not sure if the sacrificial wood inside would be enough to bring the wood in the 40 gallon up to pyrolysis temp. It would be interesting to see a video with some good telemetry. Thanks for the comments!
How to do that blower forge
Nice.
I grew up in Priest River Idaho. I think the old guy with one arm probably has this kind of woodcutter.
Thank you for inspiration!
You know that you can use woodgas to run generators and combustion engines in general?
Thanks, Haven’t got a need for that yet, so I keep it in the barrel for the process. I will do another upgrade to the retort soon!
Yup I have seen a few videos on motors running on wood gas but I don’t have that need yet (but SHTF could motivate me!). I will soon make another improvement to this retort though. Thanks for the comments- I love making charcoal!
That is an interesting forge doubling as a BBQ now that's a plus
Thanks John!
If you use spruce to make charcoal, is it good for cooking with?
I cant discern a difference in the species after it converts. We dont have spruce in east texas but I would say dont use a wood that is a known carcinogenic (for ex walnut)
Cedar is a carcinogen, don't use that one.
There is spruce, birch, and cottonwood here in Alaska. 75% of spruce died recently from bettle kill. I was thinking of using that since it's so plentiful.
Very nice video. I know it's a while since it's posted, but have you ever make a high density charcoal with your method? Similar to binchotan, Japanese white oak charcoal?
I had to go look this up. I have american white oak so I could test it. The article i found referred to Ubame Oak. I will let you know when I make a batch of white oak charcoal! I have a drum of cedar right now (another experiment to see if there is any difference)
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill awesome. Thanks for the response. Hope it works. The charcoal is supposed to burn for hours.
Cool beans man.
I love old tractors and equipment like that. Looks like something out of a horror film. No danger at all associated with that saw lol😅 I could definitely use one of those to hook up to are old tractor. You'd play hell finding one for an affordable price now days. I dont even think I've ever seen one like that.
Kyle you can find in flea markets but many times is just the shaft and bearings. I love to use it but I always make sure my wife is home to carry me to the hospital!
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill nice to see one of the old belt drive saws working, I found one in our little woods, have it as a display piece in the yard... the babbitt bearings are froze up, it sits on a big pine stump... Since I worked for 40 years in sawmills, figured it made a nice decoration rather than being junk in the woods...
@@ACheshireCat2001 where did you work on a sawmill?
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill first one was Dickman Lumber in Tacoma Washington...it is now a park...it used to be on a dock where they loaded sailing ships by hand before they got the cranes... an old growth Dfir/Hemlock mill... shoreline management act got it... later a fire...Second and last lumbermill was Seattle-Snohomish in Snohomish Washington ... I move up there from a puller to a Gang Sawyer.... with an bunch of jobs between... one of those jobs was as a fill in dual chop saw operator... the guy I was replacing tried to clear a piece of wood from one of the saw before it came to a complete stop... those chop saws were about the same size or a little larger then tractor belt saws... the guy thought about it and did not want that job back...at that point I was still into the pulling on the planer chain...I kind of got drafted into following my foreman into the lumbermill proper from the packaging area... our out-put was about 200-300 thousand board feet a shift.... they run two shifts most of the time. two week down time for repairs and upgrades... economy shut it down in 2012.... here is some video from the Gang Saw position I worked... th-cam.com/video/uw7WEM07n0o/w-d-xo.html
Fascinating and your Ford tractor with the saw is awesome from an engineering standpoint. My next project with an old John Deer And steam engine. Thanks for your video and all the best in all future endeavors from New Mexico.
QM hope you make a video!
This is far more efficient than most in the amount of fuel used to create the charcoal; the fuel to char ration. Well done. What was the development process for creating this method? Did you have experience with a rocket stove in another application or another scale?
Rob my process was driven by the fact that forging with wood is time consuming keeping the fire just right. So I watched every video on this type of appliance. My rocket stove experience was limited to "chimney affects" in wood stoves, and burning stumps ... The charcoal lasts longer in the forge so its worth the effort.
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill Kudos. Your insight was spot on. You have inspired me. I am putzing around with an old water heater that should be able to replicated your success. Well played and thank you for sharing.
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill was curious about wood forging... lasting longer having to do with feeding fuel, wood being awkward and irregular ? Do they make pellet fed forges? maybe an automatic feed of chipped wood. th-cam.com/video/G-D766o4nQU/w-d-xo.html interesting rabbit hole to explore
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Sir,
That is some fine fabrication work you done there, However...
You did in fact make it much more complicated than it needed to be, but in the words of my grandfather..IT WORKS!
OH before I forget..how do you spell char co? Lol. Good job sir
Yes, you are right but it is still very productive. Gotten a lot of comments for the next one I build. Thanks
CHARCOAL
@@vuthisa 🤣
i will try to do this soon hopefully
I gave my nephew a cookie can and he made some on a small scale.
That was a success I’d say..!
Great work
Thanks Kevin
On the inner barrel, were there only holes at the bottom (actually the top before it's flipped) or on both ends?
That is correct. It is designed a down draft retort. Inside the inner barrel, when the process yields gas, it flows down , ignites as it exits, turns 180 and flows around and up the cavity adding heat to the process.thanks
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill Thank You
I know how to make charcoal and the protrusion above my belt buckle shows a certain familiarity with hot dogs, but I have never seen a buzz saw set up like that one. Did you make it? Subscribed.
George I made parts of it. Took 3 videos! here is the first (can be boring)
th-cam.com/video/OFpmrzIfGwA/w-d-xo.html
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill Thanks for the quick response.
that was alot of work for a hotdog lol
neveer mtoo much work for a hot dog
that's how's it's done
Satisfaction
Parabéns amigo
That sure is a long way to a grilled sausage ^.^
Makes for an interesting watch, though, thanks.
I'm guessing from your happy face that you understand that it's much more than just grilling a sausage. But for those out there that don't, this was a first for him, in making his own charcoal. Being able to be more self sufficient is always a good thing. If you know what activated charcoal is, this is 1 of a few steps to making it. Activated Charcoal has quite a few uses.
The charcoal he made also goes by biochar. Biochar is really good to add to the garden if your dirt is not as alkaline as it needs to be.
Also, the process in which he made the charcoal, can be adapted to use the wood gas to run motors.
It's all about being more self sufficient.
Thanks your comment is good and is what youtube should be all about! Learning.