Very good discussion here, I love the Mind and Life dialogues. May it be clear that non-duality can not be scientifically proven, since science inherently requires a split between the observer and the observed, which will be dissolved in a non-dual experience. The scientist can only prove it to himself in his own heart through his own experience - the mind is not enough. And what a diverse audience, who'd think Richard Gere would be there (around 1:36:50).
John Dunn, at 1:29:00 to 1:35:00 to 1:36:00, "perceptual judgment," "which interpretation, do I choose, and why? Interpretation based on training and personal experience... "the way we are trained, changes the way, we view the world".... 1:38:30, "what can be our bridge?".... "experience, itself"... "we're all trying to understand consciousness"... 1:39:57, "the understanding of reality is tied to the relief of suffering"(the Buddhist commitment to the relief of suffering)... "therefore, we must revise our notion of reality, if we are truly interested in the relief of suffering" ... 1:40:00, "my interpretation has to do with, my training, and my purpose"...1:41:00 "is there really something fundamentally different about the the purpose of Buddhism, and the purpose of science? (keep listening to 1:44:10) (Wow) (Can science commit to, the relief of suffering/ethics, as a mandatory qualification, in the practice and purpose of science.) Truly, we don't have the right to live, without an awareness of, and an adherence to Ethics. As, "no one is above the law", Science, is not above Ethics. One beautiful gift of the 14th Dalai Lama is his ability to articulate, Universal Ethics, and explain why it's in all of our best interest to understand and honor, Universal Ethics.💗🙌💗🙌💗🙌Excellent to the end 2:20:24 💗🙌
The conversation thru the end was very interesting. I can astral project myself, or can have out of body experience. Thru meditation this is possible. Unfortunately even some monks that I have talked to unaware of this phenomena. So we are getting no guidance or help from anyone including scientists and spiritual people. This is a magnificient experience and it is quite disappointing to see that this type of experiences are not investigated and researched in detail. We left all alone in this.
Alexander Ilichev .Alexander Ilichev . it is called THUKDHAM(tibetan word)..when great meditator demise they control their subtle mind (buddhist term-subtle consciousness) thereby even after clinically dead (brain dead,heart stops,breathing stop) but still those tibetan lama body remains fresh and never decompose without fixative (chemical to preserve body after dead)..Body remain fresh for 5 to maximum 20days ..Till now about 30 Tibetan monks has already shown such when dead. thatsy headed by scientist Richard (speaker in 2.10min in vedio) kept thermal n REG n ECG machine at dharamsala (Dalai Lama residence in INDIA)
@websoull There are mystics in India who are very familiar with your experiences. If you research Surat Shabdh Yoga, you may find masters who are very proficient at experiencing the higher levels of creation. They are based on God, which is different than the Buddhist perspective. Only you as a mystic can do the research within, and learn the truths.
@paxifista i think you need to read more about quatum physics this isn't for someone who hasn't read about it their is proof i mean this scientists and the buddhist side not jus philosophers
@websoull There are no machines that can convince Western science of the existence of astral projection. The Saints, on the other hand, give their disciples the necessary information to traverse the inner realms safely to the highest experiences with the soul or atma, and how to finally merge back with the Creator.
@paxifista Did you never learn philosophy or science, or history about both? If you only speak what you know then you will never formulate new questions and then nor phylosophy nor science will progress
Priceless advise from HH The Dalai Lama to the Tibetans, love it.
Thank you, very much for sharing these vídeos! Namaste!
Very good discussion here, I love the Mind and Life dialogues. May it be clear that non-duality can not be scientifically proven, since science inherently requires a split between the observer and the observed, which will be dissolved in a non-dual experience. The scientist can only prove it to himself in his own heart through his own experience - the mind is not enough. And what a diverse audience, who'd think Richard Gere would be there (around 1:36:50).
His Holiness wisdom is matchless.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks a lot.....
Thank you -very- much for sharing this.
John Dunn, at 1:29:00 to 1:35:00 to 1:36:00, "perceptual judgment," "which interpretation, do I choose, and why? Interpretation based on training and personal experience... "the way we are trained, changes the way, we view the world".... 1:38:30, "what can be our bridge?".... "experience, itself"... "we're all trying to understand consciousness"... 1:39:57, "the understanding of reality is tied to the relief of suffering"(the Buddhist commitment to the relief of suffering)... "therefore, we must revise our notion of reality, if we are truly interested in the relief of suffering" ... 1:40:00, "my interpretation has to do with, my training, and my purpose"...1:41:00 "is there really something fundamentally different about the the purpose of Buddhism, and the purpose of science? (keep listening to 1:44:10) (Wow) (Can science commit to, the relief of suffering/ethics, as a mandatory qualification, in the practice and purpose of science.) Truly, we don't have the right to live, without an awareness of, and an adherence to Ethics. As, "no one is above the law", Science, is not above Ethics. One beautiful gift of the 14th Dalai Lama is his ability to articulate, Universal Ethics, and explain why it's in all of our best interest to understand and honor, Universal Ethics.💗🙌💗🙌💗🙌Excellent to the end 2:20:24 💗🙌
Thank you very very much for this.
Thanks Vandami Bhantji.
Jai Bhim. 👍🙏🎉
OM MANI PA ME HUM HHDALAI LAMA CHENPO KHENNO OM Y HUM BANJA KULU BAMA SIDI HUM HHKARMAPA KHENNO CHJACHENPO THASISHU
The conversation thru the end was very interesting. I can astral project myself, or can have out of body experience. Thru meditation this is possible. Unfortunately even some monks that I have talked to unaware of this phenomena. So we are getting no guidance or help from anyone including scientists and spiritual people. This is a magnificient experience and it is quite disappointing to see that this type of experiences are not investigated and researched in detail. We left all alone in this.
anyone gets what His Holiness speaks in the end between 02:06:35 and 02:09:10?
Alexander Ilichev .Alexander Ilichev . it is called THUKDHAM(tibetan word)..when great meditator demise they control their subtle mind (buddhist term-subtle consciousness) thereby even after clinically dead (brain dead,heart stops,breathing stop) but still those tibetan lama body remains fresh and never decompose without fixative (chemical to preserve body after dead)..Body remain fresh for 5 to maximum 20days ..Till now about 30 Tibetan monks has already shown such when dead.
thatsy headed by scientist Richard (speaker in 2.10min in vedio) kept thermal n REG n ECG machine at dharamsala (Dalai Lama residence in INDIA)
Alexander Ilichev Thank you your His Holiness.
@websoull
There are mystics in India who are very familiar with your experiences. If you research Surat Shabdh Yoga, you may find masters who are very proficient at experiencing the higher levels of creation. They are based on God, which is different than the Buddhist perspective. Only you as a mystic can do the research within, and learn the truths.
སྐྱབས་སུ་ཆེའོ་ཕགས་པ་སྤྱན་རས་བཟིགས་་་སྐུ་ཚེ་ལ་བར་ཆད་མི་བྱུང་བཤོགས་་སྐུ་ཚེ་ཡུན་རིང་རྟན་པར་ཤོགས་་་་🙏🙏🙏♥️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻💪💪
@paxifista i think you need to read more about quatum physics this isn't for someone who hasn't read about it their is proof i mean this scientists and the buddhist side not jus philosophers
@websoull
There are no machines that can convince Western science of the existence of astral projection. The Saints, on the other hand, give their disciples the necessary information to traverse the inner realms safely to the highest experiences with the soul or atma, and how to finally merge back with the Creator.
@paxifista Did you never learn philosophy or science, or history about both? If you only speak what you know then you will never formulate new questions and then nor phylosophy nor science will progress