A New Sample of Gothic
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- The corpus of the Gothic language seldom grows, but a recent discovery in Crimea has added a short new hymn to the works we know of written in this language.
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That backdrop is insane! I thought it was a green screen at first!
It's actually Green River Lakes . . . but close with the green part.
@@ThompPL1 lol
The saddest thing about Gothic is that while it is the oldest recorded Germanic language, its also the only Eastern Germanic language we have record off. This means the insights we can glean from it about the development of the family are all a bit off.
That’s not true, which is a good thing :3 we also have a couple hundred words of Vandalic (mostly names) from which we can get a glimps at how their language was both very similar to gothic but also with its own features and we have about 80 words of the so called Crimean gothic language which seems to be a closely related language to gothic not a gothic dialect itself :3
@@hanskotto8630 Yes! And Spanish, while a Romance language, was cultivated by both Romans and Visigoths, and a lot of Spanish names are Gothic in origin, like: Eduardo, Rodrigo (or Rodríguez), Gómez, Alfonso, Fernando (or Fernández), etc. Many common Spanish words are Gothic too: esquina, ganar, ropa, sacar, bregar, etc. 🙂
@@tylere.8436 yep!
@@tylere.8436 That's super interesting, thanks for the info
Depressing, isn't it...?
Such a shame so little remains in attested history
But also, very excited to see more Crimean Gothic be unearthed. Who knows how much is out there waiting to be found?
I think the modern language is much more interesting tbh. There are already so many dialectal differences popping up between Kazakhstan and Brazil! Filu filu anahugiwairþ raihtis... 🤔
@Greuts I wasn't talking about the entire countries :P
I was just saying that the people who are learning Gothic from around Eastern Europe often say stuff differently from people like me who are more in the Hispano-anglic sphere
Finding anything about Crimean Gothic would be immensly valuable. But the chances to find anything that hasn't been found so far are very slim...
@Greuts Brazilians on the internet are generally strange. There's no other nationality which will more often mention where they're from, whatever the context. "Greetings from Brazil!"
@@amaya3660 ... you do realise Gothic is extinct, right?
Gothic is a really beautiful language. I wish its poetry and songs had survived as well.
Modern poetry in Gothic written over the last few years is out there! Ukrainian Gothic poetry is especially interesting :)
@@amaya3660Gothic language poetry in Ukraine? Where can I find this?
@@amaya3660Where can I see this?
@@amaya3660 by the (g)hutsuls? is it their own ethnic dialect descending from it? or reconstruction?
@@amaya3660 and russia?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We need more gothic videos!
Hey, if you like Gothic so much, you should join us on the Gothic Discord server. There's a language revival and it's gotten really popular over the last several years as more people are becoming conversant in the language. You should totally check it out sometime! I myself help out by teaching and streaming in Gothic every day on Twitch! Þwahtubairans anaqimaina þuk! ^^
Yeah, but everybody says that ;)
Beautiful scenery and some learning, Thank you Sir.
Just superb. You have given us beggars a Gothic example of Quis Ut Deus! Huzzah!
Thank you for this video.
Cool video. Im from the island of Gotland (Sweden)
Some of those words with diphthongs, reminded me in an comforting nostalgic way of how the old generation here spoke (gutnish language).
According to the local 'saga' Gutasaga the gotlanders, (gutes) could still understand the goths in crimea and that they were really the same people. But in my school growing up they discredited this as probably just local-patriotism.
Are you familiar with Gutnish?
What is your opinion ? Would gothic and gutnish be mutually inteligable?
In the Viking age I think there were a distinct form of old nors in Gotland that developed to Gutnish. And modern gotländska is just some differences in prononciations to standard Swedish that comes from Gutnish but is not Gutnish.
Gutes? The old Anglo-Saxon speakers of Old English (era of St. Bede) mentioned the Gutes as Geats and by his accounts they are either the same Goths or a close relative
In Gothic we call it the Gutasago. Crazy how similar the names are!
One thing I know for certain, you can find printed copies of the Lord's Prayer 🙏 in Crimean Gothic. I was comparing it to Old English and even though it's not really mutually intelligible, there was still big portions of it that could be discerned and understood. Mostly the keywords like father, heaven... etc.
One that surprised me was in Gothic swe swe is the exact same as the Old English swa swa.
Fredrik Lindström gav stöd för teorin att goterna kom från Gotland i sin serie Svenska Dialektmysterier minns jag
Very interesting.
Damn... Those backgrounds.
Just when we think nothing more can be found....another tidbit surfaces. So glad you found it and shared it with us.
What a beautiful vista!
Thanks!
Bro it’s so cool that there are still people keeping these dead languages alive. Like there’s no practical reason for it other than to appreciate it and I think that’s beautiful. Thanks for doing the work that makes life interesting!
That was interesting, I am from Crimea, I know about Crimean Goths, but never hear the language. I am going to visit Mangup Kale actually)
Thanks for sharing this as I had not heard of this relatively recent find.
Thank you for the "sound bite" and background. Very interesting and good to have these finds presented to the wider world, no matter how small.
Thank you for the nature sights and sounds along with the scholarly view.
Fascinating. Thanks for posting this.
Nomina sacra carried on for centuries, pretty amazing. Thank you!
Is it tantalizing but also sad to hear of how Gothic was found to be spoken around the Black Sea region in the 1800's...I think during the Crimean War? Wish somebody wrote some more of that down.
Wind River Range.... beautiful area. Hoping to be in that area later this year. Thank you for the knowledge and the beautiful scenery, Sir
Thanks for more Gothic content!
one of your best backdrops yet
Beautiful language. one of my favorites
Cool stuff.
Can’t wait for the second printing of the leather set books again.
I swear I only missed it by a couple with my order to the border book store.
For those who have interest in Gothic and would like to learn and speak it like any modern language, there's been a revival attempt going on for quite some time. Currently, there's even a Discord server with resources and countless coined words, mostly from Germanic roots.
I can't post the link itself so just add /invite/jnnUDMmd3T at the end of Discord's main page, if you are interested.
That sounds cool - hopefully it can be restored to a useful and useable state.
Thanks for spreading the word, frijondi! :3
Most of their coinages are just calques from modern german because ahsto happens to like that language
Cool
Freue mich über jeden gotischen Happen!
there is a gothic language revival online, and also a discord!!! well worth seeing
Thanks so much for spreading the word, frijondi! :3
Wonderful vid - would love some more on Gothic. And that's Wyoming?? I thought you were still in Scandinavia! Such a beautiful backdrop :)
It looks like Tasmania to me, but I guess those heavily glaciated landscapes have a lot in common.
WY have one of the largest glacier in the lower 48 US so there's that.
Noti gang!
I think I might have heard about this inscription before, but it was really nice to hear a proffessional bring it up. Thank you!
Suggestion for a video though. It would be very interesting to hear your take on the gothic past form stem-repeating class 7 verbs, with some background on their history and later development.
Hope to see it on your channel some day :)
I would like to see something on the productivity and history of the -þs suffix personally. It's the de facto way of forming nouns from most strong verbs in the modern language ofc, but it's still so fascinating in how destructive it is on the root stem!
@@amaya3660 I haven't heard of that particular feature, but it sounds very interesting. Could give an example? I imagined it might be how for example the past form of "binþan", "band" is cognate to "bond" in English, but that might not be what you ment.
Oh also be advised that places where I wrote something like plihts/plaihts, I am not implying that plihts is a real word. Obviously the vowel must be broken: plaihts! x3
I have nothing to add; I just want to say thank you for this video ^^
Very cool!
What a fantastic background
I'm so proud this beautiful language was spoke for mi ancients...
The first part is a translation of a Greek hymn that is sung on the Sunday after Pascha today.
Greetings Dr Crawford: thank you for this video, is there any printed version of this Flemish traveller’s journey ?
I'm jealouse about where you live, I'm a huge fan of utah,wyoming,montana,coloradao. hopefully I can run into you one day out there lol. Get my book autographed
Love the random moose in the opening sequence 😊
Proto-Germanic: ainaz
German: Eins (cardinal) - Ein (article)
Dutch: Een (cardinal) - Een (article)
Afrikaans: Een (cardinal) - 'n (article)
English: One (cardinal) - A/An (article)
Gothic probably also dropped the 's' when using it as an article...?
Ainns (cardinal) - Ainn (article)
3:48, I have zero experience with Gothic, nevertheless, some of the characters look really similar to Cyrillic which based that alphabet on the Greek alphabet.
It's so fascinating seeing language and text influence each other and seeing the genes of modern ones in their ancestors.
Both gothic and cyrillic are derived from a contemporary greek alphabet. The similiarities are not surprising.Gothic had some runic letters mixed in, while cyrillic used some glagolitic letters.
Most of the Gothic letters are either Latin (like R and S) or Greek (like Γ and Λ). For many of those, it's hard to tell which, as ΑΤΜ looks just like ATM. A few letters are neither; what looks like Ψ is actually Þ, what looks like Θ is actually HW (and a Latin letter was invented to transliterate it), and the U is upside-down, possibly because of runes.
I have trouble with BRK in Gothic fonts; the word ΜΙΚΙΛ looked like MIRIΛ until I looked at the transliteration.
The intro was awesome. Moose 🔎
thanks
Wow I love the upper font but can't read a bit of it. I did pick up the word MIDGARD.
It really interesting seeing different languages and trying to figure out what a section means without knowing the language. I got the approximate meanings of the first sentence, part of the second, and the last part of the last sentence of 4:40.
At 6:51, maybe God was abbreviated to avoid saying God's name, similar to how some modern Jews write G-d and similars and historically YHWH to avoid writing it out?
What resource would you recommend for learning Gothic?
University of Texas at Austins Indo European online courses have a really good gothic course!
There's a Discord server dedicated to the language and its revival. I can't post the link itself so just add /invite/jnnUDMmd3T at the end of Discord's main page, if you are interested.
@@shingi-chan4320 Thanks for posting this frijondi!
It looks like the same character is used for d and the crossed d (voiced th?). How do you tell them apart? Placement relative to other letter? (I don't expect that Dr. Crawford will answer this rando question, but I'm hoping someone with knowledge on the subject might clue me in).
Gothic is reconstructed as having three voiced plosive/fractive phonemes (b/β, d/ð, g/ɣ) with complementary distribution (plosive after pause, after nasals and possibly after L and maybe R, everywhere as fricative)
That's a beautiful script.
Not sure whetherthis is a heads up that you need or not, but German transliterations of Russian and other languages from Cyrillic differ alot from the English conventions, like ch for kh, s for z, i for y and tsch for ch. Just one name is not always enough for context clues, so they can be tricky.
ch for the x makes more sense than kh. Though, h would make the most sense in English.
@@thatotherted3555 I’m not so sure. I’ve always thought of /x/ as being related to /h/, not /k/. And I’m a native English speaker.
@@alexandruianu8432 "Ch" in German is pronounced "kh". It's not an opinion.
Various European languages spell these sounds differently:
EN "sh" = GE "sch" = FR "ch"
EN "ch" = GE "tsch" = FR "tch"
EN "kh" = GE "ch" = FR "kh" ? (sound does not exist in French).
Polish & Czech are even more fun.
@@gerardvila4685 Kh (/x/) doesn't actually exist in English, though. It's just a weird spelling to get around an issue. Taken literally, the Kh spelling is an aspirated /k/, like the initial c in cat. I'm saying it's preferable to just use h, even if it's silent under certain circumstances.
@@alexandruianu8432Every explanation I've seen (for English speakers) says: pronounce it like "loch" (a Scottish lake/fjord). The spelling "kh" has the great advantage of being unambiguous, even though it looks ugly.
But it's true the sound "kh" is not generally used in English. To me personally, when I was learning Russian it sounded like "k" part of the time and like an aspirated "h" part of the time.
The thing to understand about phonology is that people speaking different languages don't just TALK differently, they LISTEN differently, that is, they divide up the continuum of sounds that come out of peoples' mouths in different ways. For instance, French distinguishes between "é" and "i", which many speakers of other languages may hear as the same sound. And French people have no clue about the difference between long vowels and short ones - when I quoted "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" to a group of French colleagues, every single one of them thought I had said "Fear and Loving"!
That explains my reaction to the unfamiliar "kh" phoneme - I'd heard the actual sounds before, but they'd been interpreted differently because they were being used in languages with no "kh".
This is why you can maybe learn a foreign language as an adult, but it's an awful lot harder speaking without an immediately recognisable accent.
Thank you for the video. I sometimes wonder if any Scandinavian merchants and warlords/raiders and "state founders" travelling through what is nowadays Ukraine/Moldavia ever met speakers of Gothic and actually understood that their languages seemed to have a common origin. Even though they were probably not mutually intelligible.
Correct or incorrect that such an encounter could ever have occurred? Possibly anytime between around 5th century and en of 10th.
Vikings ruled Kyiv. Volodimyr was a viking that not to far geographically how is it in time?
From what we know, the Goths were vaguely aware that they were also from Scandinavia but did not know they were related to other Germanics and Scandinavians. Interestingly enough, neither did the Romans or Greeks, they made a distinction between them as "Scythians" and other "Germani".
The closest to your scenario I know of was between the Visigoths and Ostrogoths with the Franks and the Goths didn't seem to see them as even distantly related linguistically or ethnically.
Very interesting moose
nice background. where did you buy it?
Gothic is such a beautiful language. More videos like this are of course very welcome.
Is it cause your last name is from gothic? (Gomez)
@@CarvedStones Yes! I often feel like have a bias towards the goths for that reason.
@@sikViduser Yeah, a lot of Spanish surnames are actually gothic origins too. It’s often overlooked. There’s more to their legacy than just names though.
@@CarvedStones Yeah, a lot of us are unaware of the full spectrum of our heritage. Particularly Latin Americans who seem to often neglect their European heritage. I myself have Moroccan, Ashkenazy, Arab and Portuguese ancestry along with my predominately Spanish, Native American heritage.
@@sikViduser That’s a pretty interesting mix, I am also of indigenous descent but I also know I got some Spaniard in me too due to my great grandparents. What brought me to the goths was reading more about Spain and how they played a central role in it all the way to the reconquista.
Ever since I started getting into language and linguistic history, everything about the ancestors of my non-native tonuges (French and Norwegian) seems to draw back to the region around Ukraine. I hope once this war is done there's more money and research going into hunting down more of these artifacts so we can learn more about all these ancient, rarely attested languages.
I have long wished a manuscript of some Gothic epic tale from the fourth or fifth century could be found, perhaps in Spain, or in an Italian monastary, or even in Crimea. It would be fascinating to see how the language looks when it is not a translation from Greek with some questionable syntax.
Iberian gothic existed in Spain because the goths were still practicing Arianism until 589. However, when King Recerred converted, he preferred Arian churches to be destroyed, thus any texts of gothic too since it was used as an Arian church language. This considerably put an end to Iberian gothic. However this form of gothic might have had a lot of Latin loanwords since the goths also spoke in Latin tongue to their Hispano Roman subjects.
@@CarvedStones In reality what I was hoping for was an heroic epic of Germanic source, which would never have made it through the normal process of Christianization.
@@osgrath I know what you mean, it’s pretty hard to find anything on the goths since they have been converted in the 4th century. Gothic persecutions of Christians was done by the pagan leader athanaric and his generals but to no avail. However I would say the one that comes closest is how the goths unironically view Athanaric as their founder king of the Visigoths, which basically sprung well into Spanish nationalism later on with them making a portrait of him in the royal palace of Madrid.
Maybe in Poland, Ukraine, or Romania during the 1st-3rd centuries that there’s some gothic inscriptions waiting to be found…
@@osgrath I would say that there has been Germanic heroic tales of the goths in the Norse sagas but not anything that we know of from the goths themselves as their form of alphabet and literature came amongst their conversion to Christianity, based on what wufila, Sabbas, and some Romans said was that they were idol worshipping pagans heavily revolved around spirituality and bound by ancestral land. However we don’t know much about gothic paganism other than that it seems be some some proto-Norse/Germanic belief.
Intermediate Russian speaker here. In Russian de "X" letter has an aspirate "H" sound, the "kh" is the best way we, latin script users, have to represent it. Also, every "O" letter that is not in the tonic syllable gets declined to an "A" sound.
i was wondering about that cus i had heard an Eastern European person say Kharkiv and Kherson out loud for the first time where i could actually tell that’s what they were saying recently since the rest of the vid was in english, and was wondering if the K was just so light i couldn’t hear it as someone who doesn’t really know any languages with that kind of sound or what
@@stellabee2026 Yes, that "Kh" sound is basically the same sound as Spanish "J" or German "Ch." IMO it would make more sense to just write it as "h" since both English and Russian only have one "h-like" sound; I think the reason this isn't done is English has a fairly standard system for transcribing foreign alphabets (ironic, seeing as its own native spelling is super inconsistent) and while Cyrillic only has one "h" letter, other writing systems (ie Arabic) have multiple that need to be distinguished.
@@jared_bowden i suppose that it’s either have some kind of standard for transliteration or everyone has to learn IPA so i kinda get why it would be like that
@@jared_bowden Cyrillic has more than one way of writing H. Ukrainian and Belarusian have two H sounds, some of the non-Slavic languages written in Cyrillic have more. The mistake is to think Cyrillic = Russian.
@@egbront1506 Yeah you're right. I was referring to Russian Cyrillic (and Classic-Arabian Arabic) in that context, but of course it differs - using "Kh" for X and saving "H" for Г makes a lot of sense for Ukrainian.
I remember reading some years back, that this Flemish traveller who visited Crimea was unsure if the dialect spoken, was a form Old English or Gothic.
Old-English?
After 1066, many disgruntled Englishman set sail for pastures new. Ending up in Byzantine. Upon arrival, the empire was under attack. These Englishman helped squash said attack. These Men went on and became Vangarian (For centuries) guards. Indeed the pastures new given to the Englishman by the byzantine empire is said to have been Crimia. Italian maps of the 15th century show Crimea with English name places.
Nova-Anglia
Well this text is in Gothic, had it been Old English it would have been built thus.
@@MixerRenegade95He’s not talking about the text in this video, he’s talking about Crimean Gothic, which has been known for a while to definitely not be a descendant of biblical Gothic.
@@tfan2222 Yet it uses the Gothic Script?
A little off topic question, is that Johan Hegg of Amon Amarth on the Grimfrost image at the intro?
Yes, it is. He is a partner in the Grimfrost company.
The transliteration “Tikhanova” is an English transliteration. ”Tichanova” could be a scholary transliteration or a German transliteration. In any case, the Cyrillic letter “х” is pronounced as the guttural sound with the IPA symbol “x”.
A language comparison study was done on cognates and word similarity which found high German dialects, especially Bavarian, were the closest relations to Gothic, and Nordic the most distant. If Gothic originated in Sweden this is not to be expected. The origin of Goths is murky.
Crimean Goths created the medieval state of Theodoro in Crimea (the city on the territory of modern Mangup was its capital), which was the sattelite of East Roman (Byzantian) Empire, but then was conquered by Osman Empire. Crimean Goths (as well as Crimean Greeks and Genoeses) were turkizated and islamizated and became the part of modern Crimean Tartars nation (national minority in Crimea).
Hey, Jackson
My name is Justin, I’m wanting to know if you have any courses on teach Old Norse.
I would be willing to pay!
Thanks and my GOD in CHRIST JESUS richly bless you and you endeavors, as well as your family!
That moose brought to mind the Moose of GoNoodle fame. There are some GoNoodle Moose videos on TH-cam if you're curious.
Do you think the abbreviation of "God" is at al related to the shortening of the nomina sacra we see in early greek christian manuscripts? Or is this reflective of an unrelated Gothic convention?
Looks like a nomen sacrum to me. Much of the Gothic alphabet is Greek, so they probably borrowed the nomina sacra convention along with the letters.
I second Pierre’s opinion. Gothic spelling actually takes a lot from Greek and does a good deal to faithfully preserve Greek loan words. :3
I noticed the usage of "swe" and it reminded me, in lord's prayer in gothic it has "swaswe". And I noticed in the Anglo-Saxon at the same place it says "swa swa". Is that a cognate of the same word? (My understanding is both means "as")
@@ASS_ault that wouldn't make sense. "forgive us our trespasses 'so' we forgive those who trespass against us". Because in every English translation of the bible it has "as"
@@briangilbert9077So, “swā” is the ancestor of modern English “so.” Similarly, Gothic “swe” also means “so.” However, they could *also* mean “as” in both languages, but usually when doubled. Hence Old English “swā swā” and Gothic “swaswe” (which in Gothic, seems to have merged into one word).
I know old english isnt exactly your baliwick but how exactly do old saxon and old english compare?
If Gothic worked as today's German, than the last word should be in Dativ.
The word for Dativ in Gothic is giftidrus (saei gumakundata waurd ist)
Mig langar að læra gotnesku.
Notice the 'und'
There is a village called Pacsila in Nicaragua were Gothic people still exist.
This video leaves one big question: What is the gothic word for midges?
You might be able to find out if you go onto our Discord server for reviving the language. This language is just gorgeous 🥰
the alfabet looks like a mix of runes and cyrillic? am i right in that or just old cyrillic?
No, not at all. It's something related to Greek
In spite of the person above, it is a contemporary Greek alphabet with runic influences.
Is the Gothic translation of what Christians call the Old Testament from Hebrew or from the LXX?
Well, we don’t exactly really have any Gothic Old Testament. That said, the new testament is a direct translation from Greek, so I’d bet the Old Testament is from the Greek Septuagint.
Is there as much sagas or epic texts in Gothic?
No, sadly. It’s mainly just a Bible translation and some small texts like the example in the video
There are some being written today, but none from way back when unfortunately :c
Gothic,for bread is hleiba,russian is hleba.
Gothic for town is gard,garda in russian is grad,gorod.
Proto latin for brother is brudero(not fratre,fratello,frate etc)
It is a theory:old gothic was a link between slavic,nordic and latin languages.
Newly attested written Gothic in Crimea? Wait? When? What? How?
My reaction exactly! xD
Swa gawagi, ai?
As a Russian myself I would like to believe the graffities are genuine, and it is more or less consensus now, but some could point out: in third inscription there are the mention of "winag[ardjam]", "winedressers", and surname of the researcher is... Vinogradov, yeah. Containing the same Germanic root. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but if you look at almost unchange script and grammar (and very little new vocab) it could raise some suspitions.
The hypothesis that I had read back then was that Crimean Gothic could have remained a bit unchanged being preserved as a liturgical language. Like if people was using a fossilized language for church purposes? I don't know if that really makes any sense, because I don't know the religious history of Crimea.
2:40 In the context of current events (aka 🇷🇺 Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine) it would have been appropriate to specify that Crimea is in UKRAINE 🇺🇦 and that this peninsula is under temporary Russian occupation. Even though the findings of those so called ‘Russian scientists’ might be scientifically interesting HOWEVER their research activities are UNETHICAL and illegal from international point of view. I hope that ETHICS still matter in academic community.
Thou art God the worker 'creator'of wonders. Sildaleika is used in the Gutisk translation of Alice in Wonderland, 'Balþos Gadedeis Aþalhaidais in Sildaleikalanda.'
I'd like to learn Gothic
You should totally join us on our Discord server where we're reviving the language. (I myself can converse somewhat fluently irl in Gothic and stream at least an hour on Twitch every day to try and improve). The revival is really old, perhaps from around the late 90s. In friþau! ^^
@@amaya3660 I've always wondered how ancient dead languages deal with modern vocabulary. And as i understand it, most Gothicbcones from the Bible. How do modern gothic speakers deal with words today not found in the bible?
@@captaintimcurry1713 For anyone that is reviving Gothic, it is imperative for them to understand waurdakraftus "the art of the word". We largely adopt words from Proto-Germanic. Of course we also use what is attested of Gothic and so forth. I'm an intermediate-level speaker myself. If you come onto our Discord server, you'll get to see for yourself. We have conversations in Gothic literally all the time ^^
@@amaya3660 what's the server name?
@@captaintimcurry1713 it's called "Gutisk Discord". I don't think I can post a link here but you can find it on my channel in the description of most videos.
Last time I was this early, the Goths were still sacking Rome
Anduþþanjiukam ins nauh ana Diskaurdaskalkinondam jah aljar xD
And suddenly Germanic make sense to Baltic speaker!!! That's somthing!
The crimean gothic links are highly significant as they give breadcrumbs showing where some of the origins of old norse come from before reaching Scandinavia. Its highly interesting.
There are accounts of gothic language in crimea in back water villages up until the early 1800s where they say it went out. I forgot where I saw this source, but at the time they were estimating it was dying out and not thriving as a dialect.
All of this is very cool.
Proto-Jutish
Aren't we resonably sure already that the germanic languages originated in the southern baltic coastal region? I'm not sure why the existence of Gothic language on Crimea at a late date would help at all with the early development.
could DauÞaim bear maybe a bit of a remnants of old norse 'Dauða' or icelandic 'Dauði' - death, and 'Heim' - land or home of,-
just curious about what your professional opinion would be on that ? because as you said it doesn't bear much resemblance in spoken word, maybe but written it seems rather close to, not only meaning death or the dead but land of the dead
i'm asking because i've resently learned that in romania the one god has a very close resemblance to odinn in description, and they still even bear the berserkers bearskin or wolfskin at certain festivals, which is clearly to me sounding like a remnant of old norse or at least germanic culture ... i wonder if that was because of the goths or maybe another germanic tribe.. and i found this video very interesting because the text in your video also bears reference to old norse 'midgard' and the one who returned from 'death' (odin) and it just caught my attention to be honest
dauþs is the adjective meaning "dead" and dauþus "death" is the noun. Hope this helps! ^^
Green River Lakes Trail Head ! . . . I'd bet money on it since been there a few times to go up Gannett ! The TRUE source of the so called "Colorado" River. 😉🤠
ah yes, i do enjoy gothic literature
Man sounds like exactly like Aaron Rodgers
I'm in a discord server that is trying to revive the gothic :D,thank u for making this video
Thank you for spreading the word around, gasinþjo! :D
What Goth is as great as our Goth?
Guys, please consider helping us revive the Gothic language! If you want to hear Gothic spoken irl, please consider watching my daily Gothic streams on Twitch! We are also on Discord. Awiliudo izwis! :3
I know about a discord server that is trying to revive it
Thanks for spreading the word, gasinþjo! :3
Goths were used by Costantinople in the 5th century as balance to the Vandalic /slavic pressure in the balkansThe Goths became so strong within the capital and the army that almost overrun Constantinople itself!Byzantium military were dependent on them !the empire reacted by putting as General the orthodox (Nicean) vandal Stilicho and declared them an enemy of the state !In thus period the Arian religious Vandals are distinguished to orthodox Nicean vandals as Slav!!Arian religious Goths are pushed to the West!The Goths leftover in today south Ukraine are really mentioned!A knew group emerges in the area ..the Cossacks (turkic ...the breakups/ the free /not ruled)maybe the Goth merged in this group! religious the Cossacks are old believers also a Christianization of the goths took place under saint John the chrisostome!
do Goths speak Gothic.. sorry bad joke.
East Germanic Language - Gothic - Central East Europe - Romania holds in its language the name of country which represents the gothic tribe Switzerland Romanian Elvetzia , helvethi (tzi) tribe...
Goth comes from goezzi goetzi meaning both in Swiss & Romanian language but also in jewish goym, meaning Naked ones and simplifying languages to common root & origins!!!
@6:39 does "dauthaim"/ death? look an awful lot like SAMHAIN (JANHAIM) in Gothic script?
to anyone else or is that just me?
would that give the "God" he mentions a paradoxical eternal/undying (undead?!) character,
life after/through death, or perhaps a living in Midgard even after death
am I just feeling the Fall'o'ween early?...
No, it's a Psalm from the Hebrew Scriptures.
@@kimfleury top to bottom, or just the first two lines?
I was unclear on that one... got a citation?
thanks!
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@@wallacewilliams535For starters, the first two lines are directly taken from Psalms. Secondly, no, that’s just dauþaim. Completely unrelated to the other two words you mentioned. Like, entirely, and suggests to me you can’t read Gothic (which, fair enough, but maybe don’t try to make connections before you do know?). Secondly, this is talking about the Christian God, and specifically Christ who rose from the dead.