I didn’t have time to do a full on deep dive into MMFS, however Tony said he would be covering it more in a future video. In the meantime, make sure you check out his channel and give him a sub. th-cam.com/users/OzRetrocomp
Cheers Jase! Yeah, I'm in the process of getting a TurboSPI and MMFS fitted to one of my Masters... but I ran into an issue. Not caused by the TurboSPI or MMFS, mind. Videos coming soon(ish).
From Denmark, Hi there, I'm an old BBC B user myself and, funnily enough, I've just bought another one from England that I got for 6 days ago. I got my first BBC B in 1982/83, can't quite remember if it was 82/83. It was one of the best things that happened to me, I totally fell for it. I'm looking forward to getting started again and all the memories come flooding back. it's like being 25 again like back then, ha ha.
can i ask you if they seem smaller to how you remember them, I saw one the other day after owning one in the 80's up until Amiga days (I regret selling it all had microvitec cub , double drives , seikosha gp100a printer and all speech, opus dfs as i preferred that to the acorn dfs. but on finally seeing one at a car boot sale for £50 in the box i was surprised at how small it seemed to how i remember mine. I'm sad to say i didnt have £50 on me and had to let it go to the guy behind me who had the cheek to knock him down to £40 i would have paid hundreds it was in the box and brand new condition still in a sealed box the keys never even type on it looked brand new model B even the welcome manuals were pristine and bumper feet mint never touched a table. he said he got it left to him from his grandad who had passed away and was selling it for charity, I told him to put it on ebay but he SOLD IT FOR £40 aaaaaargh!
The colour was due to fault on your computer rather than a general issue with the model. Unless it has something to do with the different PAL frequencies in Australia compared to the UK. :-) Some BBC B Computers have speech simplifier and an inbuilt word processor - The machines were sold with the chips inside. 'chips' is an outdated word isn't it? Nowadays you would say ROM although it is exactly the same thing; the same technology. Thanks for making a great video!
I believe that it is Martin Mather File System as a nod to the original designer of the hardware and original software. I have written a similar games menu for the "MMC" solutions like smartspi and mmfs and a similar version that works on GOTEKs. You can find it on stardot and it comes with my recent-ish ports and new versions of classic early 80s arcade games.
Thanks for another great video. I spent hundreds of hours playing Elite on my BBC micro back in the 80s. At one point I even connected a VCR to record screen shots of trade prices at the various stations 😂 Never made it to Elite but did get to Deadly though. Cheers, Alan.
I have a fair sized collection and tinker with all sorts but the Beeb (along with the c64) are always my faves. (last video I did was on a SID board add on board I did for the beeb!)
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COOL! I using BBS in 80s, "gold" times and tons of downloads haha
The BBC B also has an analogue-TV out. We have a Samsung monitor/TV, so I just plug in the TV-cable and it's pixel perfect. And I mean pixel perfect as the Samsung has an 1280x1024 resolution which fits Acorns perfectly. Should get it upgraded with an MMFS though. For some special versions of games, 16K sideways RAM would be a good extension.
I am constantly gobsmacked around the stuff people are making for old system, now only if I could get my hands on a A600 (in Aus).... My early adulthood would be complete!
Glad to see the TurboSPI in action! That 3D printed case is really neat too. If I recall correctly, MMFS may be short for MMC File System and the the TurboSPI is either a successor to or a fork of the TurboMMC. I should probably get onto Stardot and do some fact checking. :D As for the colour composite mod, you lucked out there. The only revision of Beeb motherboards that had headers like that were Issue 7, and not all Issue 7 boards had that in place (but the provision for the LK39 header was there on Issue 4 and 7 boards even if the header pins were missing). It could be worse; early Beebs (Issue 1, 2 and 3) need a small ceramic capacitor added to make the colour composite mod. I forget the value required, but I do remember this mod being officially documented by Acorn. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but still a little harder than just popping a jumper in there! Thanks for the shoutout as well. :)
Well I never knew the RGBtoHDMI started life as a Beeb thing. I also never knew the Beeb was popular in Australia! Great (and educational) video as always. 😁👍 Mine has a similar SD card interface, very useful bit of kit indeed.
@@MrLurchsThings My understanding is that the bloke that makes the TurboSPI (Steve) makes them to order, and only has a couple in stock at any given time.
first thing iI would advise anyone do is fit a heat sink to the gfx chip, its a while ago since i had one (82) but i remember that if the text or characters on screen start to wobble/jiggle due to running for a few hours and the chip getting hot just stick a heat sink on top of the chip and its fixed.
does any1 here know about the Acorn technical introduction to the Acorn Archimedes?? it had a small program in there which near the of the video which showed a dozen or so lines of basic, but i cant makeout the program clearly?? any 1 know ?? thanks..............
I remember a friend of mine in high school (this is in the 80’s) had a beeb and it had a ROM in it he called mu rom (music rom). I’ve been searching for information on this rom for ages with no luck. I can’t remember exactly what it did, I think it was a type of tracker/composition tool or maybe it just allowed playback of music files. Anyone have any ideas? I’m Just curious about it.
I didn’t have time to do a full on deep dive into MMFS, however Tony said he would be covering it more in a future video.
In the meantime, make sure you check out his channel and give him a sub.
th-cam.com/users/OzRetrocomp
Cheers Jase! Yeah, I'm in the process of getting a TurboSPI and MMFS fitted to one of my Masters... but I ran into an issue. Not caused by the TurboSPI or MMFS, mind. Videos coming soon(ish).
From Denmark,
Hi there, I'm an old BBC B user myself and, funnily enough, I've just bought another one from England that I got for
6 days ago.
I got my first BBC B in 1982/83, can't quite remember if it was 82/83.
It was one of the best things that happened to me, I totally fell for it.
I'm looking forward to getting started again and all the memories come flooding back.
it's like being 25 again like back then, ha ha.
can i ask you if they seem smaller to how you remember them, I saw one the other day after owning one in the 80's up until Amiga days (I regret selling it all had microvitec cub , double drives , seikosha gp100a printer and all speech, opus dfs as i preferred that to the acorn dfs. but on finally seeing one at a car boot sale for £50 in the box i was surprised at how small it seemed to how i remember mine. I'm sad to say i didnt have £50 on me and had to let it go to the guy behind me who had the cheek to knock him down to £40 i would have paid hundreds it was in the box and brand new condition still in a sealed box the keys never even type on it looked brand new model B even the welcome manuals were pristine and bumper feet mint never touched a table. he said he got it left to him from his grandad who had passed away and was selling it for charity, I told him to put it on ebay but he SOLD IT FOR £40 aaaaaargh!
6:36 "I am going to go with mmmm, *file system*" 😂
The colour was due to fault on your computer rather than a general issue with the model. Unless it has something to do with the different PAL frequencies in Australia compared to the UK. :-)
Some BBC B Computers have speech simplifier and an inbuilt word processor - The machines were sold with the chips inside.
'chips' is an outdated word isn't it? Nowadays you would say ROM although it is exactly the same thing; the same technology.
Thanks for making a great video!
The first ever computer I used was a BBC Micro in Tasmania. I still have such a soft spot for it.
Great video. Really enjoyed it :) Wish the Beeb's got more attention.
I believe that it is Martin Mather File System as a nod to the original designer of the hardware and original software.
I have written a similar games menu for the "MMC" solutions like smartspi and mmfs and a similar version that works on GOTEKs.
You can find it on stardot and it comes with my recent-ish ports and new versions of classic early 80s arcade games.
I really need to get a Beeb! I had one as a kid, and it was a really great machine.
Thanks for another great video. I spent hundreds of hours playing Elite on my BBC micro back in the 80s. At one point I even connected a VCR to record screen shots of trade prices at the various stations 😂 Never made it to Elite but did get to Deadly though. Cheers, Alan.
I have a fair sized collection and tinker with all sorts but the Beeb (along with the c64) are always my faves. (last video I did was on a SID board add on board I did for the beeb!)
COOL! I using BBS in 80s, "gold" times and tons of downloads haha
The BBC B also has an analogue-TV out. We have a Samsung monitor/TV, so I just plug in the TV-cable and it's pixel perfect. And I mean pixel perfect as the Samsung has an 1280x1024 resolution which fits Acorns perfectly. Should get it upgraded with an MMFS though.
For some special versions of games, 16K sideways RAM would be a good extension.
Fascinating. I envy you for the contents of your cave. I greatly regret not saving most of the computers I've purchased/built over the years.
I am constantly gobsmacked around the stuff people are making for old system, now only if I could get my hands on a A600 (in Aus).... My early adulthood would be complete!
Glad to see the TurboSPI in action! That 3D printed case is really neat too. If I recall correctly, MMFS may be short for MMC File System and the the TurboSPI is either a successor to or a fork of the TurboMMC. I should probably get onto Stardot and do some fact checking. :D
As for the colour composite mod, you lucked out there. The only revision of Beeb motherboards that had headers like that were Issue 7, and not all Issue 7 boards had that in place (but the provision for the LK39 header was there on Issue 4 and 7 boards even if the header pins were missing). It could be worse; early Beebs (Issue 1, 2 and 3) need a small ceramic capacitor added to make the colour composite mod. I forget the value required, but I do remember this mod being officially documented by Acorn. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but still a little harder than just popping a jumper in there!
Thanks for the shoutout as well. :)
Neat video Mr Lurch... great tan you got going there too! 😁👍
Well I never knew the RGBtoHDMI started life as a Beeb thing. I also never knew the Beeb was popular in Australia! Great (and educational) video as always. 😁👍
Mine has a similar SD card interface, very useful bit of kit indeed.
and apparently I've just bought the last one he had :-)
Must have been one more. When Randall ordered his, it said 1 left too.
@@MrLurchsThings My understanding is that the bloke that makes the TurboSPI (Steve) makes them to order, and only has a couple in stock at any given time.
first thing iI would advise anyone do is fit a heat sink to the gfx chip, its a while ago since i had one (82) but i remember that if the text or characters on screen start to wobble/jiggle due to running for a few hours and the chip getting hot just stick a heat sink on top of the chip and its fixed.
The artifacting really only happens in Mode 7 due to the teletext graphics and weird clock.
The ROMS are numbered from 15 downwards, from the right.
does any1 here know about the Acorn technical introduction to the Acorn Archimedes?? it had a small program in there which near the of the video which showed a dozen or so lines of basic, but i cant makeout the program clearly?? any 1 know ?? thanks..............
I remember a friend of mine in high school (this is in the 80’s) had a beeb and it had a ROM in it he called mu rom (music rom). I’ve been searching for information on this rom for ages with no luck. I can’t remember exactly what it did, I think it was a type of tracker/composition tool or maybe it just allowed playback of music files. Anyone have any ideas? I’m Just curious about it.
have you tried asking on the stardot.org.uk forum - if anyone knows about the ROM it will be someone on there
Cheers. Will do that.
so was there a fault with this bbc? i just went RGB out to RGB port of my monitor ... no issues, no messing about
Wot no PiTube co-processor? :-D
No. But keep that thought in your head….. 😁