No Palm Muting? No Problem! Noise Control Secrets of the Flexed Form

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  • @rust_in_peace5123
    @rust_in_peace5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    The thing about Troy Grady that just blows my mind is how well he's able to learn all of these techniques and replicate them

    • @CarpeDiem23
      @CarpeDiem23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, dude is badass pleya

  • @lemniscatusofficial
    @lemniscatusofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1481

    So, you just flex hard enough to scare the strings and they stay muted by fear?

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Ha!

    • @anthonystark5412
      @anthonystark5412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @JayB B
      I think you might be right. I read somewhere that strings suffer from a fear of being picked on.
      Apparently, it can lead to those who are more highly strung becoming so tightly wound that they fret constantly.

    • @Jimjolnir
      @Jimjolnir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      JayB B & Anthony Stark
      I wish I could save comments to a 'favourite' list.
      xD

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anthonystark5412 GOOD one!! Someone still knows how to joke around in a classic way!!

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surprise flex!

  • @russellward4624
    @russellward4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Troy “Yoda” Grady at it again. Breaking down stuff most of us hadn’t even noticed.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I prefer Baby Yoda!

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@troygrady But baby yoda passes out after doing something bad ass.

    • @franknada8235
      @franknada8235 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@troygradyMaster Troyda!

  • @hungnose666
    @hungnose666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the only guitar channel that come away from knowing how to play less and feel worse about my playing, so much to re-learn

  • @Wesley.Deuren
    @Wesley.Deuren 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dude, these lessons are excellent. The guitar lesson community is saturated with instructors and videos, but these really stand out. Well done to you and your team.

  • @coolmacatrain9434
    @coolmacatrain9434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Superb tuition.. incredible really that we get this level of insight for basically nothing.
    I implore anybody reading this to purchase Troy's teaching videos - you will not regret it (just my personal opinion, you understand)

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you!

    • @Gregorypeckory
      @Gregorypeckory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@troygrady Back at you-your generosity with these incredible analytical videos is unbelievable, and I have never seen anyone else in this niche of super detailed analysis of guitar technique. With all the teaching videos out there, you created a whole field; an incredible achievement.
      I recall seeing an old video of yours where you had long hair (not sure it's still up), and gave some amazing insights and demos showing some of Shawn Lane's incredible contributions. When I listened to Shawn at the time, I had no idea how he was doing much of his playing, since it's so overwhelming, but you took the time to dig in, and have the chops to demo some of the technique, and it was mind blowing. Then you just kept digging deeper for the years since-great job and a great service to the guitar community!

  • @musicityisreality2565
    @musicityisreality2565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Troy you have transformed my playing. I’d spent months not knowing how to alternate pick properly and you have showed me the way. I thank you very much man. Keep shreddin

  • @GeneralTHC
    @GeneralTHC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been watching this guy for years from afar. His chops totally exploded after he got into the whole pick slanting thing.

  • @DoritoKstyo
    @DoritoKstyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey Troy, as a one handed guitar player here, this just opened a promising path for me to end my struggle with noise control xDD Still figuring out how to palm mute, but lets go step by step XDDD

  • @RichLyles
    @RichLyles ปีที่แล้ว

    The best technical guitar source on the internet. Troy Grady should get a Peabody Award for his service to education in guitar technique. Thank you.

  • @christopherhanna5754
    @christopherhanna5754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That is just a superb professorial exposition on why high-gain amps do what they do in terms of compression and noise control.

    • @JasonMauer
      @JasonMauer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except that's not how compression works at all. Compression reduces dynamic range, making quiet parts relatively louder and loud parts relatively quieter. Here it is described as lowering the noise floor (i.e. making quiet parts quieter) when the opposite happens in reality. (And if the amp were to behave this way, wouldn't that be the case regardless of playing technique?)

    • @Havanacuba1985
      @Havanacuba1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jason Mauer yes as far as I’ve always experienced compression as well as taming louder parts also brings up quieter parts wanted or not like noise

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When two sounds occur simultaneously, as in strings ringing in the background during continuous playing, the compression definitely causes the noise to go down in level. The compressor can't separate the louder note you're playing from the noise in the background. It can only turn the level of the entire signal down. The loud notes go over the threshold, the level goes down. And the noise goes down with it. This is pretty easy to test and you can do with any high-gain amp. For sure, when you stop playing, the compressor stops compressing, and the noise level comes back up. So you do have a reduction of dynamic range in the sense of the difference between loud and soft parts of your playing. The same would be true for sustained notes which slowly die off, which we also talk about in the lesson. Hence the need for a barre or other approaches at that point.

    • @JasonMauer
      @JasonMauer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@troygrady Yes, but how is that unique to this picking technique? It has been presented here as if it's something specific to this particular picking style when it's not. Maybe playing this way is cleaner (producing less noise, errant string hits, sympathetic ringing, etc), but that wouldn't be due to amp compression.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not sure what the objection is here. How flexed players avoid noise is a legit question that lots of people have, and we’re answering it here. It’s several pieces and they need to be coordinated just so to get the best results. I think I’ve covered those pieces but there’s always room for improvement. You can split semantic hairs and say it’s not the picking per se, but we’re just trying to help people.

  • @dhruvpendharkar488
    @dhruvpendharkar488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    6:43 Tailor: How short do you want the sleeves to be ?
    Troy : Yes

    • @LeeXhaf
      @LeeXhaf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haaaaaaaa! You made me lol

    • @milotighfield
      @milotighfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      By your comment i have 100% confidence you're american. You guys really love baggy/unflatering clothes. Short sleeves and tighter cuts is much more flattering to your proportions unless you're obese

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The acid test - pure legato. Keep your right hand out of the equation completely. If you can prevent unwanted sounds that way (without some sort of external dampening device) you have nailed it.

  • @quintinpace2627
    @quintinpace2627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Troy is the hero we need

  • @troygrady
    @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Free tablature for the lick that plays at 6:24? So glad you asked! Grab it right here: troygrady.com/channels/music/neoclassical-flex

    • @tawny624
      @tawny624 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Troy, will you please make a lesson explaining precisely what to use to get good guitar tones the same as those exhibited in your video? Thanks

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tawny624 Honestly, I do nothing! It's just the amp miked with an sm57 like everyone else, no effects except a little reverb. I can't take any credit!

    • @MartinBergnerGuitar
      @MartinBergnerGuitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@troygrady hey troy the link isnt working it seems I just get an error 404 "page not found"!

    • @NikolajChristensen
      @NikolajChristensen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct link here: troygrady.com/channels/music/neoclassical-flex/

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MartinBergnerGuitar Argh, sorry! I didn't notice the link was dead. I think it's just the trailing slash that's wrong. It's fixed now - sorry for that! You can also find this by just going to the home page, clicking "channels" -> "music" and the scrolling down to "Neoclassical Flex"

  • @NONE2NONE
    @NONE2NONE 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The website is awesome and Troy legit responds to people in the forum. The forum is super cool too because people respond politely. It's not your typical internet guy that knows everything

  • @rzk_audio
    @rzk_audio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking for in-depth advanced lessons like this for years!

  • @homemmoita
    @homemmoita 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, you deserve to be filthy rich for all the knowledge you spread to the guitar community! Thanks!

  • @CMM5300
    @CMM5300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must admit Mr Grady, your studies of expert picking technic is always fasinating! It needed to be done. That's almost everyone's biggest down fall when learning to play. Learning better picking technic. You get it down to a science. I wish this kind of knowledge was around 25 years ago.

  • @mauriciogutierrez9340
    @mauriciogutierrez9340 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Don't know how you get the best guitarists of the world in your videos to help people, but thank you

  • @Bucketheadland1
    @Bucketheadland1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've seen Buckethead live he was flawless.. I kept waiting for it but 2 hours of clean guitar work

  • @ViniciusDallacqua
    @ViniciusDallacqua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video has so much information I had to watch several times. Seriously, congrats dude. As a super beginer I was desperately googling picking techniques to improve my noise on picking and fretting. This video has seriously a lot of info to unpack!

  • @davidconnelly
    @davidconnelly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best guitar teacher ever. SO far ahead of anyone else out there.

  • @Bigbuddyandblue
    @Bigbuddyandblue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Q: What stops the other strings from ringing?
    A: (shrugs) I dunno!
    Love that! They just DON’T ring out.

    • @michaeltaylors2456
      @michaeltaylors2456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was doing this by trial and error and was doing fairly well , Then got side tracked by my GIT summer session grad teacher who got me slamming my palm down ,,, sheesh

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I love all the approaches - they're all great. It's not so much that some work and others don't, it's more a question of what their capabilities are, when they are appropriate, and how to actually do them to the level of ease that we see in great players.

    • @jaredwilliams1031
      @jaredwilliams1031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think the answer - correct me if I'm wrong - is that you're hitting the target string with enough precision and intensity to basically force the signal to ring out and cancel those generated by the other strings.

    • @demolitionwilliams7419
      @demolitionwilliams7419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jaredwilliams1031 that's what I'm gathering here too

    • @nat2r
      @nat2r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaredwilliams1031 so increase pick thickness

  • @dmeemd7787
    @dmeemd7787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    plus I'll use 2 fingers to try and mute certain strings)l like dropped tunings for fast galloping and when you do a set of 5 then 3 then 1 (like in 'This Calling' from All That Remains) so I can mute anywhere and be ready for harmonics, or whatever... like you are playing a 2 finger power chord, except its just on one string your low E, D, B, etc. depending on tunings, number of strings, etc. this channel is GENIUS.. helps the things I am also aleady working on take shape..
    Love it!!!!

  • @zzzdee1980
    @zzzdee1980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you man...🙏🙏🙏 I thought I'm going crazy how these pros playing without muting...😅 I'm like "what the hell"... That's what kept me from trying their technique... Now, I'm gonna try it out... You saved my entire 5 years😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣

  • @Bleachdemon88
    @Bleachdemon88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve played 15 years and never realized this, I always wondered why my tube amp didn’t have a certain shreddy sound (6505) compared to my older peavey vypyr which was a solid state. I’m gonna experiment with this thank you for the info, subbed

  • @serph2951
    @serph2951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got used to be an up picker because I would always be muting, always had trouble with downward picking, this is good useful info

  • @cmhardin37
    @cmhardin37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Marty's picking hand hurts to look at.

    • @MegaVypyr
      @MegaVypyr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i straight out just suck.

    • @gigatesla
      @gigatesla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You'd be surprised at how comfortable it actually is. Make a relaxed fist and bang it on the table. Then roll it forward so it's resting on your pinky and ring fingers.
      Tada! That's it. Then you can use a combination of gentle wrist rolls and extending/retracting your thumb+index finger to pick. It kinda feels like you're letting your fingers squish and unsquish into the table. This style has a number of benefits:
      1. Easy rest strokes. When downpicking the pick will naturally come to rest on the next string, which is great for sweeps.
      2. It's much easier to overcome friction between the pick and the string because the pick isn't hitting the string straight-on - instead it kind of slips over it. Depending on how you use your fingers it may also move slightly towards the headstock while still in contact with the string, which helps overcome the static coefficient of friction in preparation to start a note.
      3. Good leverage. This position makes it easy to apply a lot of force to the pick through a wide range of picking speeds, enabling you to stay relaxed and tension free.
      All of these factors taken together make it much easier to execute smooth downward sweeps, which are crucial to Marty's style.

    • @EJ-74
      @EJ-74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a friend that picks like that we have been playing around 30yrs and it still weirds me out every time I see him pick like that 🤣 I've tried it a couple times and 🤣 it just doesn't work for me 🤣👍✌️ 🤘🔥💀🔥🤘

    • @amagion
      @amagion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gigatesla This comment was one of the best things i've read, seriously.

    • @gigatesla
      @gigatesla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zidan40o0 You're ready. Go get 'em!

  • @SketchEtcher
    @SketchEtcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely needed to watch this. I’ve been rubbing my palm raw trying to learn to shred and mute at the same time LOL. No more of that. I know now what I must do!

  • @ericpeterson2960
    @ericpeterson2960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    as one of the Gainy Persuasion. allow me to use that for the rest of my life. I have never really thought about how i mute the strings for me i use a combination of my palm and my fingers and thumb as i play.doing it for so long it just becomes second nature. really interesting thought tho for sure.

  • @CammedFox
    @CammedFox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mike Batio is such a great teacher, and a very cool guy.

  • @kukulalibor
    @kukulalibor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Troy. Your instructional videos are pure gold. But what I admire the most is your application to amazing sounding licks.
    I know you have Volcano and Cascade series, but you should do your own licks section.

  • @MarlonVanderLinde
    @MarlonVanderLinde 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see many folks talking about the gain & noise floor stuff, with gain and drive a lot of what the masters use (for good and evil) comes from the accidental (but skillful) control of the physics of vibrating strings. This video really makes me think...

  • @MrCameratape
    @MrCameratape 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Forget everything you know" this video is practically the prime example of that

  • @Sacrifice13
    @Sacrifice13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The service you provide, and the information you present is outstanding! In my opinion you have a great legacy which is not a small statement! Thank you very much!

  • @GodzillaGoesGaga
    @GodzillaGoesGaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My thoughts: Looks like it is your fretting fingers as they pull off they are deadening the notes. I'm sure there's some subtle timing where the pick hits the string, you get resonance and as you lift up your fretting finger the string gets damped. Since you are moving your fretting fingers a lot you are causing a lot of damping. Do it with an open neck (no fretting) and I bet you will hear lot's of ringing. Try it with a capo too (no fret finger work). Would be interested to hear/see if that is the case.

  • @WorldvsTruth
    @WorldvsTruth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice, warm high gain - like a razor sharp knife gliding through pastured pork lard. Delightful. I'd actually never reached for the volume knob at either the end of a phrase or completed bar. I "instinctively" rest my right hand knife-edged across other strings; sometimes it's the left-hand fingers lifting up but not quite off the string.
    I never really thought about how I dampened the extraneous string noise until attempting to explain it now - thanks to your awesome ocd (obsessive compulsive dedication) analysis. As you said at some point, certain "techniques" or methods just happen or develop - kind of like setting upon a target or objective, and the necessary technical abilities/ components seem to just come about fully furnished to accommodate or execute your objective. Your playing, discipline, dedication and focus is amazing. Inspirational. Thank you, and God bless you. 🙏🏽 😊

  • @monocyte2210
    @monocyte2210 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i still dont know why you have only 150+ K subscribers . dude you have been uploading quality content for years

  • @alwilliams1997
    @alwilliams1997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Troy, please do a video on the picking of Shawn Lane, thanks

    • @joelthetrolls
      @joelthetrolls 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bump

    • @andyisalwaysanxious8599
      @andyisalwaysanxious8599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeeesssssss

    • @Gregorypeckory
      @Gregorypeckory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a very old one he did about Shawn; very cool, but I don't know if it's still available.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    :11 I thought that was called "Bad Technique" hahah or some childhood accident. I think that arm posture is a double-edged sword. It limits in some ways and helps in others. But he's managed to play some interesting stuff like that.

    • @venvalhalla5893
      @venvalhalla5893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you also commented on Jake E Lee's Suicude Solution video...

    • @TruthSurge
      @TruthSurge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@venvalhalla5893 ok

  • @jimmyomega
    @jimmyomega 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one thinking that this is a really professional video and it deserves a lot more views and subscribers?

  • @magnushammersmith121
    @magnushammersmith121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some points of this video were covered in Paul Gilbert's Shred Alert DVD (chapter 10 "Mastering Muting Techniques", to be precise). And there were some cool exercises for string muting too. I guess, this video should serve as a theoretical counterpart to Paul's video (which is a practical one). These two are everything you'll ever need to learn about fretting hand muting.

  • @manutdzone1
    @manutdzone1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I find this only works when you pick every single note. But do legato and hammer on / pull off trills and the second you stop picking, the resonant string noise starts to ring through loudly - until you pick another note to suppress it again.

    • @Kriegter
      @Kriegter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I see marty friedman put his thumb over the strings to stop this

    • @michael1
      @michael1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah you'll struggle to play musically like this. For Troy's target market that's not really a big concern.

  • @jimwinters3986
    @jimwinters3986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd say your left would compensate for what your right doesn't mute, once you've adapted to the amp and gain. There's also the point of contact with your fingertip, as the pick touches the string as dampening... Like combining all these micro-moves.
    Granted, if you're new to playing it's bound to be a mess until you learn to control all of this. Although some never do.

  • @TheBlackHelicopterRevue
    @TheBlackHelicopterRevue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand the conpression effect on string noise from the ampon electric, but you have shown an acoustic player, too. How does that work on acoustic when there in no amp?

  • @JohnHorneGuitar
    @JohnHorneGuitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You're sounding great here, Troy and great info as always!

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John!

  • @Joker-qy2fv
    @Joker-qy2fv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Weird flex but ok

  • @VOLAIRE
    @VOLAIRE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:39 I love the closing statement for this video

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We’re all about the description rather than the prescription. If great players use it, then it’s good - we just want to know how it works.

  • @manantialzeus420
    @manantialzeus420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are very good explaining the theory and the praxis. Nice video man

  • @BenOnuMuDiyorum
    @BenOnuMuDiyorum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are the god of guitar teaching 👏👏

  • @renleblanc2993
    @renleblanc2993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Troy - you need to feature Matteo Mancuso - his fingerstyle technique on electric is unique and faster and cleaner than anything I've seen. It would be worth looking into.

    • @jakemf1
      @jakemf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rene LeBlanc that guy is killer

    • @bingefeller
      @bingefeller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matteo is an absolute beast. He is the only guy I have seen play Technical Difficulties using only his fingers. He is going to be a big name in the guitar world.

    • @franknada8235
      @franknada8235 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Troy Grady: The 4th Dimension, as in 4 fingers picking.

    • @renleblanc2993
      @renleblanc2993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @broomsterm there is nothing stopping him from analysing fingerstyle players as well. I think we can safely say the picking has been done to death - Troy cracked it!

  • @ArnoVlmt
    @ArnoVlmt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sir, are like a wizard revealing his tricks. Great video! Thanks.

  • @RICCARDOREARDON
    @RICCARDOREARDON ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ❤️ LOVE ❤️ LOVE ❤️ LOVE ❤️ LOVE THE INFORMATIVE NATURE OF THIS VIDEO...
    THANK YOU....

  • @BrunoBild
    @BrunoBild 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man you deserve millions of views

  • @Murphmonster69
    @Murphmonster69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude it still blows my mind how you play a damn mustang and it sounds like a mockingbird or something. Plus you’re shredding on like a vintage fender neck holy cow you’re a mad man!

  • @dmeemd7787
    @dmeemd7787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is BRILLIANT (the picking technique and amp settings, makes SOOO much sense 💡) awesome!👌

  • @SSSweeper
    @SSSweeper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's also a thought that when you try to use your fretting hand for muting (like using index finger for fretting one note and muting the string above), your fretted note becomes "duller" because of less tension made by the finger. Of course I'm not following that because I always found it natural to mute with index finger as Troy showed in the video, but still.
    Another point is muting with your picking hand - you don't always palm mute all the strings, you can lay your palm on the strings you don't use in the phrase and play with a "straight hand" position on the other strings and by doing that way you won't need freting hand muting.

  • @sepultubob
    @sepultubob 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    First and foremost it's a very precise and clean picking technique !!! Lots of practice, and yes the flexed forearm make it easier as it helps avoiding contact with upper strings. Great playing

  • @williamjensen6747
    @williamjensen6747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I think Zakk Wyldes technique is based around this too

    • @AlexDDDDDDD
      @AlexDDDDDDD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      indeed

    • @jeremyrock9305
      @jeremyrock9305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      William Jensen oh yeah I’ve watched many videos you can see his wrist is bent like that

    • @jonathancompan4508
      @jonathancompan4508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pickslanting.

    • @davekay3938
      @davekay3938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, but too bad he sucks so bad.

    • @sunavila
      @sunavila 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@davekay3938 What are you even talking about?

  • @snowrider4495
    @snowrider4495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad there is OCD guitarist in this world like Troy "OCD" Grady! that I can learn from cause I'm too lazy too!

  • @michaelknight4041
    @michaelknight4041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I analyze my muting techniques I'm always kind of amazed because I don't ever remember practicing all these subtle little things that I just do now automatically without thinking about it. It might just be one finger moving a fraction of an inch to just barely deaden a string that would ring. Also I can strum across all six strings but only the notes that I want which might only be two or three will sound and I'll have the rest muted. All the different mechanics are quite technical and precise but I guess they just developed out of playing a lot because I've never consciously worked them out. It's pretty crazy

  • @michellegrounds3919
    @michellegrounds3919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found moving my picking hand back to the bridge helps. I usually play directly between the pickups neck and middle so for me and my habits over the years move it back and the tensions helps e by my strong attack. I hope that make sense and helps people who like to read the comments like me.

  • @bigchiefsmackaho387
    @bigchiefsmackaho387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i recently changed my picking style to essentially this because i found it SO much easier to play fast and clean. I used to use an open palm style of picking and i feel like that offered less control over the attack of the pick and i would find the pick slipping when i tried playing extra fast. I wish i had found this video 15 years ago when i started lol

  • @slippy8813
    @slippy8813 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im 13 and wanting to learn guitar and your videos help me so much i love the switch strings when upstroking vid

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome keep it up!

  • @hitama8620
    @hitama8620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those two single coils sound absolutely monstrous!!

    • @Ianochez
      @Ianochez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is your comment that actually made me notice that ahah I wonder if it is new hightech or old school vintage pickups.

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mab's style on one of troys videos is the single biggest factor in how I learned after over thirty years to downward pick slant. Only difference is that a planted my pinky with nothing else touching at all. Another thing at 3:13 Troy asks him if ascending was easier or more difficult. A few months back I asked Troy the exact same question... 😀

  • @bradleyrayson2955
    @bradleyrayson2955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a very severe nerve condition , I'm unable to hold a regular pic. I use a banjo pick that wraps around my thumb and it's in an odd place because I play metal. This is great because for all of my leads I never mute, I only really mute when chugging

    • @ourclarioncall
      @ourclarioncall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m starting to think what you do would be better. A regular pick seems less stable to me. It can move and flow around too much. I would like to make some sort of plectrum that’s not currently on the market . Something like like a stick that your finger wrap around with a plectrum attached. Like wrapping your 4 fingers around a double A battery or a wooden or plastic cylinder that’s shaped for comfort

  • @andyisalwaysanxious8599
    @andyisalwaysanxious8599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Killer playing man! Bad ass, thanks for the video 🤘

  • @citizentcrusader8091
    @citizentcrusader8091 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes Troy my problem is a synchronization problem. I’ll have to post a vid on the forum. Thanks for your help

    • @randomstory6757
      @randomstory6757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CitizenT Crusader actually to sync up your fingers defense on the lick that you are learning.
      play it slowly let say 60bpm for 1 minute and jump to 90 and 120, 190, speed it up till u think u can't follow the tempos.

    • @citizentcrusader8091
      @citizentcrusader8091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kisah Lain thanks for the good advice happy new year

  • @davidlawson7786
    @davidlawson7786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Killer technique, I just found your channel and just subscribed, thank you for making this video, I really like your sound and approach. I’m a long time guitar player and student of the guitar, always learning and picking up new skills and techniques. Very informative stuff here, thank you very very much. I’m off and running with this information. Happy New Year!

  • @waranghira
    @waranghira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Not that saturated? His tone IS that saturated. He's just really a clean player.

    • @chrischoir3594
      @chrischoir3594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's not saturated like say Malmsteen or Satriani

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chrischoir3594 Malmsteen is not that saturated..he has old school 1970 style gain, not late 80's super saturation gain.

    • @chrischoir3594
      @chrischoir3594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaelcraig9449 he is over the top saturated... he used the bass pickup. Although I do think his sound has gotten more saturated over the years. He was cleaner in the early 80s.

    • @cmhardin37
      @cmhardin37 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrischoir3594 nah he's not saturated at all bra

    • @chrischoir3594
      @chrischoir3594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cmhardin37 he has so much delay and chorus going on not to mention he uses the bass neck pickup, you know nothing about tone. Get back to your x-box lol

  • @Zifahrimas
    @Zifahrimas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I teach these muting methods to my students. Now I’m gonna show them this video. Thanks.

  • @FusioNNosferatu
    @FusioNNosferatu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Dude where's my muting?!" had me in tears XD nice reference ^^

  • @chris.jenura
    @chris.jenura 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good explanation, as always.

  • @Hericly
    @Hericly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First, i had to learn how to play in that speed kkkkk
    Thanks Troy
    Hugs From Brasil!

  • @surethebest
    @surethebest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wonderful. Thanks man. Richard from Paris

  • @chasemcdaniel3620
    @chasemcdaniel3620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats a good guitar for smaller hands? Nobody talks about it in detail. But it's so important to play a comfortable guitar.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re looking at it! I’m playing a 22.5” scale Duo-Sonic from the ‘60s. Found on the internet for under a grand. They come up every once in a while if you look.

  • @greggoryblock1071
    @greggoryblock1071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome! FINALLY something dedicated to Marty's amazing technique!!!

  • @TypingHazard
    @TypingHazard 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charlie Hunter has a speech where he talks about how people tend to think of the fretting hand as the 'conception hand' and the strumming hand as the 'execution hand' and how really that's not true, how both hands are involved in both aspects of the process. He doesn't use a pick of course, but the idea is the same and this video here seems to be in that same camp. Dig it

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charlie's great, I've seen him play here in NYC. For sure, there is an interplay, and it's very often subconscious. I don't think any of the players we have interviewed really sat around working out lines for specific picking techniques, at least not to the level of the patterns (notes per string and so on) that we have now become aware of. But those constraints are there, in the background, influencing what things come out.

  • @klaytonvonkluge4905
    @klaytonvonkluge4905 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to watch this stuff more often man, it makes me wanna practice again haha

  • @EOHRyan
    @EOHRyan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I spent years trying to train myself out of this technique. I wasn’t able to do fast palm mute stuff at all on the G, B and E strings

  • @ArtbyPaulPetro
    @ArtbyPaulPetro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great stuff, man! btw LOVE the tone you got happening with that rig!

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It’s just the Cornford - the old standby

  • @ThePickingPythagorean
    @ThePickingPythagorean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Troy, you're a genius. I love the way you're breaking down all these guitar styles. We must preserve these styles and techniques before we lose them forever. The guitar is a fairly new instrument and it needs this kind of in depth study. And you are the best at it. Thank you my friend.

  • @Bricklinsv1970
    @Bricklinsv1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Troy is so underrated as aguitarist!

  • @sardupl9180
    @sardupl9180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is pure gold

  • @image30p
    @image30p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video! You play really well. I like your techniques. Great insight into the effects of compression via high gain amplification.

  • @demoncole
    @demoncole ปีที่แล้ว

    your a legend showing everyone this all the greats use that pick angle for a reason its so much easier to synchronize and it sounds better wish this knowledge was around 20 fucking years ago

  • @DavidAddis
    @DavidAddis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw Eddie doing this and could never figure it out - thanks for the explanation in full!!

  • @masonsundstad9464
    @masonsundstad9464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please do a video on John Browne’s downstroke technique for progressive metal

  • @GregorHoul
    @GregorHoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bear with me if this has been addressed before, as I'm just watching this now, but I use that left hand fingertip muting towards the end to mute stray one note per string alternate picking strokes. It kills the string very effectively.

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does the same thing happen with digital modelling amps? Do they also suppress string noise like a real amplifier?

    • @Atreus006
      @Atreus006 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should. If not you can always manually add a compressor which will almost certainly do it.

  • @johnlannikk2701
    @johnlannikk2701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Troy you are a genius! You remind me of the cartoon I saw in the news paper....'The BBC cameras and reporter are on TOP of mount Everest and the reporter is saying...'And here they come , Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay the First people ever to conquer Mount Everest'

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely not worthy of the BBC cartoon compliment! But happy to be of edu-tainment service.

    • @johnlannikk2701
      @johnlannikk2701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope your all keeping safe and well

  • @paulryan7180
    @paulryan7180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is so underrated! Great video
    🏋🏃

  • @Marycha245
    @Marycha245 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a video with Michael Romeo's picking and tapping technique?

  • @DatAnydex
    @DatAnydex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always. I was hoping to see a brief explanation of a Guthrie Govan ‘hairband on the first fret’ technique, but perhaps it’s already explained on another video.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve never used that so I really can’t comment on it. What about using a hair band would you want to know more about?

    • @DatAnydex
      @DatAnydex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Troy Grady No worries, Troy. At the moment I don’t use one, but it just catches my interest how GG almost always has one ready to slip onto the first fret for muting if he’s about to play lead runs. Thanks.

  • @gapingshanus
    @gapingshanus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!! I have to tell you. !!!DUDE!!! You look, sound, and act exactly like how I imagine Marty McFly, from Back To The Future, would've as a grown ass, adult man!!!

  • @silverpairaducks
    @silverpairaducks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I met MAB at TCBY....he forgot his change...nice man

    • @LostMyMojo100
      @LostMyMojo100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mike is a Chicago guy... Or he used to be... I saw him at a concert at the Aragon Brawlroom in the crowd....

    • @silverpairaducks
      @silverpairaducks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LostMyMojo100 yup

  • @klaytonvonkluge4905
    @klaytonvonkluge4905 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of this stuff just sorta happens naturally as you play and get better, but good instructional vid... Man oh MAN I wish we had this kind of detailed instructions as kids learning guitar!
    (I was just becoming a teenager as VH LP "1984" hit the charts/shelves)

  • @WillMaskellTaylor
    @WillMaskellTaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few people commented on my playing, saying that my hand position is really odd, and I realised it's because I play in a very similar style to this flexed form. I never really realised people don't do this. I play thrash so I do a lot off palm muting, but I still always anchor my finger on the guitar which the other guitarist in my band doesn't do. Now whenever I see videos of me playing live, I always notice my hand looks like a hook compared to everyone else XD. Another person I've noticed who does this is Matt Bellamy from Muse, his hand is hooked over his guitar and he uses the gypsy method on tremolo picking a lot too.