ENGINEER EXPLAINS WHICH COMPACT LUXURY SUV IS BETTER - JAPANESE vs KOREAN LUXURY BRANDS
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- Which is better - the 2022 Acura RDX or the Genesis GV70? Automotive Engineer David Chao evaluates both vehicles using SWOT analysis (Strength, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats). The SWOT thinking is often used in business strategy, so it's an interesting approach to vehicle evaluation and review. David goes through all the details to explain which SUV is better from quality, engineering, performance, comfort, and value perspective.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, consulting, and strategy. David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean Thinking or Toyota Production System. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.
The V6 GV70 is already the “Type S” of Genesis. Test drove one. It’s a beast and is 95% of of the Macan S, which when similarly equipped costs $20-30k more.
@@star999nine best in class warranty mate.
@star999nine the Porsche Macan with the Premium package plus, which puts both cars (GV70 3.5L SPORT PRESTIGE) at around $65,000 brings the cost to own at 5 years: GV70 @ $60,225 & MACAN @ $63,716. The GV70 is still the better buy at the same starting price but faster, quiter, no vheap plastic, more ammentities, and better warranty. My insurance payments were also lower by going with the GV70. Unless people want to spend $10-20Gs more to get close to the same type, they're only buying it out of Pride.
@@star999nine yea i also heard of those issues, wondering if the newer models resolve those issues. They def stepped up their games on all other aspect. Really hope these issues were fixed. I guess the 10 years warranty will cover it then.
But it's a Hyundai. Doesn't have the heritage of being a sports car. And reliability issues. It can catch fire spontaneously more often than other brands. Hyundai has come a long way, but it's shady recall practices means none of its vehicles can justify that price tag no matter how great it looks on a spec sheet. Give them another couple decades and they'll catch up to Japanese reliability.
I signed up to buy the Genesis gv70 last week. So excited and happy.
I've been driving the Acura RDX, MDX, Lexus RX, NX, Kia Telluride, Hyundai Palisade, etc. Tried the GV70 and ordered it immediately! I ordered the 2.5T Prestige, not the V6 as it is way more comfortable...and gas is hitting $2/Litre now.
That is too many vehicles. you can just say you liked GV70 above everything else, without gaslighting.
@@jaythomasni How am I gas lighting? I just listed the cars I've been comparing and test driving. I've been as thorough as I can...I don't know what you're suggesting?
@@jaythomasni This is such a douchey comment...providing the vehicles he's driven provides added context. I bet you're a real hoot at parties..
Red, there are a lot of trolls online; people who are envious or just stupid. If you have been around the block in terms of age, yes, you have driven a variety of cars. My question to you is why did you find the 2.5 more “comfortable”? They share a similar suspension etc. yes? Please elaborate. Thanks
@@your_royal_highness Yes, I'm in my mid fifties now. The main advantage the 2.5T GV70 has over most vehicles in this class is they lean towards luxury instead of performance, which is what I was looking for. The main reason for this is the 19" wheels...the perfect balance of looks and comfort. Sure the 21" wheels look a bit better but they are harsh. Even though the 3.5T has adaptive, road previewing suspension, you can't get a lot of comfort out of a couple inches of rubber!
The RDX interior is "busy", the GV70 design language has simplistic elegance. Bought a GV70 3.5 Sport Prestige a few months ago, zero regrets, love the exterior styling.
how is the ride quality and noise?
@@jgrant2064 In comfort mode ride quality is excellent, suspension is adaptive using road preview. In sport/sport+ everything tightens up, brisk driving is fun. Noise level is superb, several reviewers say best in class, all glass is acoustic (front and rear) and the wheel wells are damped, it's quiet. Owned Germans and a supercharged Jag in the past, Genesis hired an all star team from BMW/Bentley/Audi and others and it shows. I would buy it again in a heartbeat...........
@@rmyAddison Does your opinion still hold up after a year of ownership? I'm test driving the 2.5T GV70 sometime later this week, but I really have my eye on the 3.5TT (better leather, brakes, suspension, and power.) This will be my first new-car purchase, and a relatively expensive one at that, so I would really value the opinion of someone who has had some seat time with it. Any major gripes or headaches?
@@SteremyJeele I'm 73, owned a LOT of cars over the years, including BMW and Jaguar, I have no major regrets. With the 3.5 there is a HUGE difference between comfort mode, which is luxurious and quiet, and sport+ which is surprisingly rowdy and fun (0-60 in 4..8), just what I wanted. Once you get past the base 2.5 you get the sport steering wheel like all 3.5 models have. A 2.5 Sport Prestige is pretty nice, the 3.5 Sport Prestige gets the power, ELSD, road preview suspension, upgraded interior, heated rear seats and a must for me, a very nice HUD that displays a lot of information. Good luck.............the concierge service is great too !!
The GV70 looks absolutely fantastic. Everything about it just punches above its price point. The RDX is impressive too. Curious to know how the all-new NX compares with these two. However, the Infiniti QX50 is just outclassed in this segment.
@@naveenthemachine Get over it, troll. No one believes you.
@@naveenthemachine I agree with what you say however, we can both agree that the Lexus will be far more reliable.
I guess I’m the lucky guy here because I have both of these cars in my household. My wife drives the 2021 Acura RDX and I just got the 2023 Genesis GV70 2.5. They are both fantastic vehicles and awesome to drive.
TY David - Great insight!!!
Thx for this comparison.
You didn't mention the different driving modes and how they compare & contrast. The GV70 offers a wide variety of modes for the driver to enjoy.
As I approach 60 yrs old (and I'm a bit of a car guy) I totally love the luxury & comfort side of vehicles BUT also what to turn it up when I can. This GV70 3.5TT should really be about $20-$50K higher priced. It simply does everything really well and is 2nd to none is this segment when it comes to ride quality, comfortness, quietness all while surrounding the occupants with massive luxury features.
It is called the baby Bentayga for many reasons. It is so quiet & refined when you want it to be - When you're stuck in traffic or going no where fast. My wife asked me if it was an EV as it was so quiet. Those double paned windows really make a huge difference. Plus the massaging seat is nice!!
When you want to drive spiritedly switch it into Sports + mode and you easily hear the roar of the engine and the sweet exhaust notes while enjoying the rear wheel driving bias sporty experience.
The RDX A Spec it an excellent top rated vehicle but that engine is super noisy vs the GV70 and its a much more stiffer ride. Plus I wasn't impressed with the 0-60 time of 6.4 seconds to the GV 70's of 5.7 (4.9 seconds in the V-6). And the RDX weighs 450 lbs less.
Its the luxury components/options, higher tech, standard features & options, the ride quality (can be extremely quiet & smooth AND aggressive and sweet exhaust notes).
Overall the CLEAR winner for me the is the GV70 3.5TT in Sport trim level. I'll take it in that Gorgeous Mauna Red exterior colour with 2 tone interior combination please:-)
In Canada that full load price is $76,500 plus taxes. The F&PDI is included in that price. No discounts from that at all.
The electrified version is coming out in 2023 but in Canada the top trim level will be about $25K-$35K higher cost to the ICE version. Besides its NO Gas requirement the EV version is a littler quicker with 0-60 times 4.3 to 4.6 seconds. For me I'd put down my deposit yesterday if the EV version had a time in the 3.5 second range. It will have a 500 kms range on a full charge.
Thx again David & team - Excellent comparison:-)
PS - Lots of dealer problems with Genesis in the States. Here in Vancouver No problems at all. I have 3 dealers within 40 minutes and the nearest is 15 mins away.
Cheers all!!
rdx type s competes wth v6 gv70 silly.
Fully Loaded RDX anytime given the brand history and reliability. No amount of fancy is pulling me into newer ride who’s reliability isn’t proven yet plus about 20 grand more expensive. No way. US market wins on reliability and proven track record
This is really an excellent review - minimized bias and fair and balanced. Your views are pretty much inline with Motor Trend which named the GV70 the 2022 SUV of the year. The Acura is a great vehicle and resale will be good. I've heard some of the knocks on the Acura are worse than expected fuel efficiency and very light steering (not a fan of light steering myself - progressive is fine). Can't go wrong with either one, but I test drove the GV70 and was blown away at how good it drove. Note: I drove mostly Japanese vehicles but I might be trading in my Mazda CX-5 for a Genesis GV70..
I am considering either the Mazda CX-90 or the Genesis GV-70 for what will be my last car, and I want some fun in such a vehicle. Reliability will be an issue perhaps, that my heirs can deal with. For design, nod to Genesis and for reliability, nod to Mazda. Decisions, decisions 😉😂
@@robertmurdock7530 yes, test drive them both. Do some research on the dealerships close to your home. My Mazda has been ok at best. Squueks and rattles from the rear door is annoying. Tech is simply awful in my Mazda. Underpowered (mine isn't the turbo) The Genesis should be better for my wants and needs hopefully
Both are premium looking on the exterior but I think the Genesis has a better executed interior with more fluff than Acura. If I were in the compact SUV market the GV70 would be my preference. But I'm 6'3, 280lbs, and I need more room than what this class offers. On another note, I hear people criticizing the dealer network issue with Genesis in terms of selling vehicles on the Hyundai lot. I honestly think they did it to cut cost by not building a bunch of dealerships without knowing the success of the brand. Regardless of sales those buildings gotta be paid for as well as utilities. That money can go toward R&D/QC. Once the sales numbers get to a certain level and their reputation has been established, then I'm sure they'll build Genesis dealers. My main concern when buying a car isn't the dealership service department, but the quality of the vehicle I buy from the dealership. If the vehicle quality is good you won't have to be there as much. Eventhough luxury car dealers offer some perks that non lux brands don't, Genesis has complementary service pick up and delivery. You don't even have to go in most cases. Besides that, I'm sure Lexus owners swing into the Toyota bay at times, and Acura owners swing into Honda bays. It's the same thing. If there's anyone in the comments who has taken advantage of the Genesis complimentary service pickup/drop off please post your experience. Thank you Sir for the engineering knowledge!✌🏾and blessings.
Go for the GV80.
@@Subh8081 the GV80 is definitely on the list for Lux Midsize SUV. I also would be interested in the EV version of the GV90 but that's over $100k .
Not picking no Hyundai over Honda bro lol 😂
@@brianbfree2328 try MDX
@@rahimi4762 that's you.😆
Tested both and others , bought the Genesis which is two generations ahead of Acura.
To me everything about Genesis was upscale and even offers various driving modes. I cant believe i would buy a Hyundai but i am a convert.Best compact SUV by far and look out Germany !
And what about money? How much more expensive
RDX anyday anytime
Very good review. Thank you for the SWOT analysis
The Genesis GV70 is the superior SUV. If you haven't driven it obviously it's easy to dismiss it but it is a superb machine. The Acura's infortainment system is pretty useless since most people are used to touchscreens from their smartphones which is natural but Acura makes you go such a hassle to use. The Genesis definitely stands out like a luxury car. It's design is classy.
I drove a RDX and they send enhanced engine sound through it. I have the new NX 350 F Sport and do not like the engine whine and noise. When you punch the throttle on the RDX is is even MORE loud. Genesis actually gives you the ability to silence this noise enhancement. I only had short drives in each and kind of preferred the Genesis. It seemed faster or at least as fast and handled just fine. I do not like the front wheel bias of the RDX and much prefer the rear wheel version of cars like the GV 70, BMW, etc.
Really enjoyed your analysis! One thing to note is that the Acura is NOT a Japanese product but rather American. It's fully assembled in the US/Mexico and was 100% designed in the USA. Sure, Honda may be a Japanese brand but its automotive products, sadly, are no longer made nor designed in Japan. The Genesis on the other hand is 100% assembled in Korea. It was also 100% designed in Korea with input from both German and Korean designers. So the only real Asian vehicle here is the Genesis.
@@star999nine This is not accurate. A few Acura models were assembled in Japan such as the TSX and the RL/RLX (which was sold as the Honda Legend in Japan). Integras were also assembled in Japan at the Suzuka plant, same with the original Honda NSX. So clearly them shutting down their assembly plants in Japan is purely an economic decision to cut down on costs, and sadly the products themselves have also suffered from cost cutting in components and materials.
@@star999nine why does the Genesis keep getting fantastic reviews? They say it’s as good or better than the Japanese vehicles. I don’t believe it. Take a look at Scotty Kilmer’s videos regarding the Korean vehicles
@@star999nine In that case you should buy one.
Genesis has a plant in the US. so it is not 100% made in Korea. I say this being pro Genesis and I’m looking to buy this in the next 6 months
@@rileysfreeman They do but it is only for their electric vehicles, not their gas powered vehicles. Everything gas related under Genesis comes straight from Korea.
Thank you - I‘m considering buying a GV70, you tips are quite helpful!
I own a Acura MDX 2011, when I got in my car the handling of the SH-AWD, was what made me buy the car at the time. I owned other SUV since, and I can tell you that the agility and the torque from the MDX is superbly smooth. I have 103K miles now and the car still has great handling and power from the V6 300HP engine with 270 torque. The AWD system has gotten me out of trouble in the snow and inclement weather and the reliability factor is excellent. I would love to have a Type S MDX. I am just not ready to spend that kind of money. One thing is for sure, MDX does have legendary handling and power, forget turbo based engines. Nothing like straight raw power from a V6!
I also have an 11 MDX Adv and 19 MDX sport hybrid. The MDX sport hybrid handing and power is a step up from the 2nd Gen MDX. Also nice to get 24-26 mpgs always from 321hp. I was looking at the +19 RDX and test drove a Sport Hybrid and purchase that instead back in 2019.
Great video. I love both vehicles. I bought the RDX because it’s more readily available, and I love it. May buy GV70 in the future.
The TouchPad in the RDX really isn't that bad. What I like about it is, wherever you touch on the pad, replicates on the screen.
I own both cars and in the exact colors as what you have here in this video (a grey RDX A-spec, and a black GV70 3.5T Sport Plus). There's really no comparison. The GV70 is much more luxurious with also significantly higher performance. The RDX has better fuel consumption which is expected since it has a small 4 cylinder engine. My RDX had many many quality control issues when I picked it up but the GV70 has been completely flawless.
This sounds like a lie
@@star999nine Are you and Rahimi both gay trolls or something? I see you two posting on many threads together. Nothing wrong with being gay, but just saying.
Does Genesis take care of servicing the vehicle well, or is it a run around to get a loaner and repair ??
Both great vehicles but the exterior and interior styling of the Genesis is exceptional and a step above everything in this class. A big fan of the tech in the Genesis (blind view monitors etc.) and the warranty is nice to have. Waiting for the Genesis GV70 Electrified (EV) next year. Should be already on sale in Korea so it should reach U.S. shores next year..
Aren't the electric GV70 built in the US? I ordered one and it's expected delivery (I live in Germany) is at the end of November.
@@fatih.tavukcu great question. The GV70 is currently built in Ulsan, Korea. However the upcoming GV70 Electrified (EV) will be built in Alabama USA starting December 2022.
@@alexandergoldman I think the new Inflation Reduction Act with updated EV tax breaks requires the vehicles to be American made or final assemble in US to qualify? Might be the reason for moving the GV70 BEV to Alabama?
@@mrgold3591 yes... that makes sense. Totally agree 👍
I like the RDX better
The Acura infotainment trackpad is awful and a pain. The Genesis infotainment is much, much more simple and easy to use. Acura is more sporty? I've watched Porsche owners drive the top GV70 Sport trim and they were blown away by the handling and engine power.
@@star999nine he's talking about the v6 sport silly, the gv70 claps the RDX overall lmfao
@@star999nine Thats def one of the weakness of Genesis in terms of tuning. They are too new compared to Acura. Def looking forward to their improving tunings in the future. More competitions the better for us consumers :)
love the no BS review.
Genesis seems a pretty clear winner overall. I'd still be concerned about long-term Genesis reliability (engine) and dealer service, which is criticized by a lot of customers.
Have you heard about issues with specifically Genesis engines? I haven't heard of issues here..
@@alexandergoldman dealer network is terrible
@@tedlipkin4742 The dealer network is run by DEALERS. This means that there are some good places and some that are garbage. I also have a Mazda by my home and one is absolute garbage so I just moved and the other one is fine. The Nissan dealership closest to my home for my Maxima is pure rubbish as well. It really depends...it's really ignorant to make a blanket statement like that
Hyundai has always had engine issues.
@@tedlipkin4742 If you live close to a Genesis dealership (they are slowly building these out across North America), then the service should be pretty great. The thing that Genesis understands that the most important commodity that an affluent person has is their 'time'. If they can shuttle a loaner to you, drive your vehicle and return it to you again after an oil change/service is complete, then that's incredible service imo. If you don't really value time the same way...oh well.
Very good review. Acura/Honda refusal to listen on transmission and infotainment controls is hard to forgive. But Hyundai and Kia have had major engine failures. J.D. Power often gives good marks to cars Consumers Reports fails. The new Genesis may be better, but it's a gamble.
Yes ,they just won me over. Best for the money.. if worry about quality, keep during warranty period. I own 3.5 liter, it's much better than glc43 amg(my boss car)... 63k vs 73k if equipped with same options. Also if you choice is brand than amg give you better images then a Genesis. Most strangers compliment on wow that is a Genesis! Thinking it was a Bentley or Porsche!
Thank You David once again great job.
Very welcome!
old people love genesis and it smooth driving performance
if you want more sporty suv, get rdx!
Awesome comparison, but I know a few people who own Genesis, and they have a lot of problems with them so they may be fit together a little bit better, but their overall mechanical engineering is not up to par with Japanese auto makers
I love Genesis SUVs but I would pick the Acura if I actually was in the market to buy one
My main concern is that Honda is one of, if not the best small engine designer/manufacturer in the world, and their new 10-speed transmission is likewise exceptional. Genesis/Hyundai/Kia are known for absolutely horrific combustion engines.
That's the Old News. Genesis' challenge is to convince the marketplace that they have now gone with all-out Quality in these new Genesis vehicles. Watch any of the online Reviews of the 2022 Genesis GV70s, and you will find consistently Superior reviews. Check out: th-cam.com/video/z1XYzSeybWk/w-d-xo.html/ and th-cam.com/video/tze2IWlTf1E/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/QGJhUoxNbg0/w-d-xo.html. Awards: * * * Edmund’s 2022 SUV of the Year * * * and * * * Motor Trend’s 2022 SUV of the Year * * *
Actually I did not have good experience with Honda transmission on a suv. My mom bought 2007 CRV and there was transmission problem, she sold that and bought 2008 CRV and she said it had the same problem. Maybe Honda worked out the kinks in their transmission, but I think the japanese have been very complacent in the last 2 decades, like how American automakers were in the 70s and 80s (which allowed the japanese to swoop in and take a lot of customers). The Koreans are the new wave of disruptors of the auto industry.
Yep, Honda is the largest engine manufacturer in the world. I would trust their engines over any other manufacturer. That Genesis is sweet though
@@Mike-cq7vv funny, I haven’t had that experience in the RDX. It would downshift 4 gears if I floored it while cruising, and in general the gear shifts have always been on par for me.
Going to look at the GV70 3.5 Prestige this coming weekend.
I don’t like the strong front wheel drive bias on Acura’s. The Genesis is rear wheel bias, as is BMW from what I understand. (As is Alfa). I really do wish Lexus made more of a “driver’s” suv. I had a NX350 and dumped it; it was noisy, slow, cramped and not fun to drive. I did buy a SQ5 and got net $8k off MSRP. Fingers crossed it lasts; my ‘18 Q5 was fine in terms of reliability but I sold it at 57k miles. I will keep the Audi probably to between 60-75k miles. If it stands up through the 50k warranty, I would think I would get another 15k miles with little problem.
Genesis interior screams European sophistication. Acura interior screams Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam Japanese.
Heck yea that’s why I got the Acura!!! Love it. The sh-awd and better value was best for me. I do feel that Japanese design vibe big time. Which I like.
@@BenjaminRichardCraig good for you
This was really good.
Acura is My choice 😎. Assembly plant for it is in 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Great video- very helpful vehicle comparison
RDX advanced and Aspec advanced trim have adaptive suspension so they are very comfortable for daily driving as GV70 too.
@@Mike-cq7vv - Advanced trim has 19" wheels and tuned for comfortable. Have you tried Aspec Advanced? Also, what exactly didn't you like it? The handling and driving dynamic?
I would prefer Acura RDX for long term reliability
Acura isn't reliable as you may think... the automatic transmission.... hyundai kia genesis have engine refinement issues... getting a lexus is the best option for reliability
Acuras reliability has never been that great lol…
@@ebonix33 Hmmm well I had a first gen RDX. It's "end of life" was almost exactly 250K miles. No issues at all on the car until the Turbo began to fail recently. No oil leaks, no nothing. When replacing the RDX, we ent with the GV70. Didn't even want to look at a Lexus with their doopy great screaming mouth grill...
If you're looking at reliability, definitely go after the Japanese made Lexuses (IS, LX, LC, RC, LS), Mazda, and certain Japanese built Infiniti models (Q50, Q60, QX80) but Genesis is also very good and 100% assembled in Korea. Prior gen Genesis G80 and G90 are some, if not, the highest scoring vehicles when it comes to reliability and are relatively inexpensive to maintain. ACURA is not a real Japanese product and they're all 100% made in the US/Mexico. Knowing that fact alone, I'd steer clear from them.
Sportier handling, more solidity
I have a 15 year old Acura TSX. It still does not squeak or rattle after more than 115 k miles
@@Mike-cq7vv agreed. My TSX is made in Japan. Super solid vehicle. I think I’ll die first before the engine dies if i just keep doing regular oil change with Mobil 1.
Some reason RDX has overall lower build quality to MDX. If they can bring the build quality match MDX and fit the double wishbone front suspension it will be.a great size and performing sUV
I have heard there have been problems with things like the limited slip differential on the Genesis. Long term reliability (not to mention how well the dealers treat customers who have issues with their cars) is a major criterion. Can you get a loaner these days if needed?
And I’ve had plenty of issues with BMW (both cars and dealers) as well as issues with Land Rovers😉😉
@@MC-nb6jx if you want reliability you give up sport. I’d probably still get the gv70 if I had a do over on the car I did buy. 🤞on that score. Otherwise I’d lease for sport or get a CPO
@@MC-nb6jx if you want reliability you give up sport. I’d probably still get the gv70 if I had a do over on the car I did buy. 🤞on that score. Otherwise I’d lease for sport or get a CPO
Acura has decades of well engineered autos under their belt. It’s obviously the smart choice long term.
From your video seems that Acura has more effective headlights, they illuminate the road better
The IIHS gives both the RDX and GV70 headlights a "Good" rating.
You should have shown roominess of second row and hatch by sitting in them.
I prefer rear wheel drive to front wheel drive. Bimer, Merc, Jag, Porche and Gen
I would really like to know if you feel the same way about the gv70. I used to love that car and then a few months later it seemed to me as really old looking and too retro. Also, the infotainment screen looks like it's just tacked on there. Let's just say it did not grow on me
The Acura is also 3yrs older in terms of design and engineering than the GV70, so this comparison doesn't make much sense to me. GV70 vs NX350 makes way more sense since there both all new. But ok!
They just renewed it. So that’s on Acura’s end. Samsung and android dropping phones all the time. Can’t wait in Apple
It doesn’t make much sense to you because you’re probably not a car person but in the car industry, there’s something called a vehicle class. This is when 2 or more vehicle of similar price and size compete with each other. Every brand brings out vehicles at different times, you don’t just compare what comes out in the same year. Do you understand?
David what color u recommended in Toyota for durability
The more I look at the Acuras, the more I like the Mazda CX-90 or the Genesis GV-70. Simpler cockpits. The Genesis almost reminds me of Italian or British designs on the inside--stylish, artistic. Can't really knock the exterior styling either, except the rear lower pan, which looks cheap to me. So, for me it's the CX-90 or the GV-70.
Cx90 and gv70 are not the same segment my friend. Did you mean the gv80?
@@tz618 excellent point. Price alone rules out the GV-80
Does GV70 has double wishbone front suspension ?
If you had an RDX made in Japan, the RDX would have has much better results as vehicles made in the USA aren't the greatest. Like the use of the Canadian puck .
I got the 2022 rdx couple of months ago. Couldn’t take the chance to pay that much for genesis who hasnt really proved themselves. So far i like the rdx, i agree rear is bland but front is pretty. Driving is like a sedan feel, sport mode is really reactive , suspension is a bit hard which is expected from sporty suv
the GV70 has a superior warranty mate, significantly so. It's the superior vehicle, your system is ass with carplay and android auto, and interior is objectively outdated
@@roboticvenom1935 Longer warranties are nice; but, most Acura owners don't need the extended coverage. A lot of used Acura's are sold CPO and bumper-to-bumper and powertrain is extend to 100,000 miles. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Acura owners have taken their sedans/SUV/CUV to +200,000 miles with schedule maintenance. Lexus is another brand you see still on the road with 200,000-300,000 miles on the Odo. Hopefully, the GV70 can do the same and not be a money pit like some European luxury brands once you are off warranty.
@@mrgold3591 partially true yeah, Lexus seems to be on top with Acura closely following behind reliability wise. Especially given Lexus is able to provide much more luxurious and complex vehicles whilst maintaining reliability like their legendary LS vehicles. Acura doesn't even have an expensive sedan, just their MDX SUV is priced up there though price seems hard to justify.
The Genesis's warranty is very long though, so most buyers will be fine. This far they've been reliable looking at the g70 which has effectively the same v6 turbo but released in 2018.
@@roboticvenom1935 Sometimes, Acura versions are Sportier with a touch of luxury sprinkled in compared to the Honda counterparts. The 3.5L Pilot and MDX have very same powertrains, sh-awd, and levels of tech; but, just wrapped differently with a lean towards luxury sport looks and tuning for the MDX.
I'm thinking both Acura and Hyundai Genesis luxury brands will be low volume and very hard to compared apples-to-apples reliability wise. Might have to add in Hyundal lower brands and Honda to get a feel for long term reliability and resale value.
Hyundai/Kia have really stepped up to compete with Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, and European brands. You don't hear much from Infiniti/Nissan, Suzuki, Mitsubishi , Mazda, Subaru, or Isuzu in the same conversations.
You do know that Acura placed 28th on reliability list from JD power for 2022 and genesis was ranked 4th.
Genesis does have the cachet as Acura, Lexus or Infiniti. BUT I think their quality surpasses all of them.
No Acura has great precision and quality.
JD Powers is a joke, they are totally biased depending on which manufacturer is paying them off. Take a look at Consumer Reports, who is totally non-biased and does not accept payoffs from manufacturers. In Consumer Reports, Hyundai's reliability ratings are not even close to the Japanese car manufacturers, ie: Toyota, Honda and Subaru.
Very interesting. I do have a GV70.
anyone else notices the hood on the GV70 rattles on highway speed. I've notice that when driving on the highway the hood is rattling a bit. I'm guessing its due to the overlap gap design to the body. Air must be going through making the hood rattle a bit ...thoughts?
I own the 2.5 GV70 Advance Trim and I do not hane any rattle noises on mine at all. I bought mine back in December 2021.
@@saulbachiller-smith8382 you will not feel it but you can see it if you look at the hood while you driving
I'll take handling over a nicer interior. RDX with the win!
You state for the price of the topped out 2022 GV70 3.5L SPORT PRESTIGE, someone can get into the PORSCHE MACAN. That's only if the base MACAN is chosen. Not even close to being equal in performance or extras. So, your statement is a bit inaccurate. If I bought a car off dumb pride, the PORCHE would be the choice. My chiropractor has a PORCHE MACAN and drools over my GV70 3.5L SPORT PRESTIGE.
The Genesis dealer is a Hyundai dealer. That’s a no go. I love the interior of that Genesis but best lease it. The interior of Acura is stupid.
Not in all places. In Puerto Rico, Genesis has its own dealership
Exactly what I say...I will not buy from a Hyundai dealership. Genesis was supposed to have stand alone dealerships four years ago! They completely blew it.
@@leumamk5259I have G80 in PR and a GV70 in Colorado. The experience from one and the other is ridiculous. While I enjoy the low maintenance prices in CO, the Hyundai dealership is subpar compared to its higher luxury brands. The one in PR is attempting to mimic MB or BMW, but all you get is higher maintenance costs so not sure it’s a better trade off.
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You get Genesis concierge service that picks up your car and leaves you a loaner. Never have to go to dealer
Hyundai Put all their money into product and not customer service. They have to build their brand if they are serious by building dealerships. Luxury buyer expects to be pampered. There is no way I step into a Hyundai dealer as a luxury buyer.
As a luxury buyer, you're realistically only in a dealership once a year after purchase
@@naveenthemachine Until your car which is very complex, has recalls, and issues. Or you need to ask questions how to operate something. I am afraid you are missing the point. Luxury is about the entire experience. It is sales and service and product. You can not have one dimension and forget the others. Otherwise, you are not looking at the whole picture.
That’s changing. But I agree Hyundai dealers shouldn’t be selling Genesis.
They did the right thing. Everything is going electric and this was them making some of the best cars in the class before that. I much rather have a complete product than have a Hyundai rebadge and some dealerships. Lexus, Infiniti and Acura all came to America with literal rebadges of cheaper regular Toyotas, Nissans and Hondas that weren’t sold here and to this day, Lexus still rebadges Toyotas and charges a premium. If Hyundai did that, you’d be complaining about it but you’re just here to complain regardless of what they did lol
@@naveenthemachine Exactly!
Made in Jaoan / Korea / Germany vehicles will always have a better build and material quality than US /Mexico made vehicles. Even Mazda has better build quality than RDX.. Made in Canada vehicles appears to be an exception better than US/Mexico
The Lexus NX and Rav 4 made in Cambridge, Canada plant is actually the most reliable Toyota plant in the world. It surpassed the quality of Japanese plants. But that's pretty much the only car plant outside of Japan that produces such quality. Toyota are kings of reliability. German and Korean brands don't hold a candle to what they produce.
That’s a lie. Mazda has control arm issue. Just wait.
i think the gv70 has leatherette seats, not real leather?
Lets see whichone will last over 100k without any issues then we’ll talk.
all modern cars pretty much last 100k without any issues. keep talking.
It’s sportier because it’s the a spec. This is not an apple to apple comparison
Acura really does not elevate itself significantly above Honda when comparing the upgrades from Toyota to Lexus or Hyundai to Genesis.
Honda, Nissan and Toyota should build their premium cars in Japan.
It is usually because of tax breaks and reduced/eliminated Tariffs for building in North America. There are a few models that are mostly sold in North America or North American specific like the Acura RDX or Integra brand.
I would go with the GV70 between this two. If the upcoming Mazda CX70 was in the mix, I would take the Mazda over both
Hell nah
Why?
@@JohnLee-db9zt you get the same if not higher level of luxury in a Mazda. The attention to detail will be great in the CX70. I like the GV70 but would get the Mazda over it.
@@timw2083 You do you. I’ve driven both. Mazda doesn’t have the solidity, power, or quality of the Genesis.
@@timw2083 u crazy. I’ve owned Acura a d Mazda. Stop bro
Genesis is to mainstream luxury makers what Mazda is to mainstream non-luxury makers.
The Genesis engine will blow at 100m miles, the Acura is just getting started.
I'm not sure how he can say interior materials in the Acura feel cheaper. First thing I noiced when inside both was that Genesis uses light plastic faux metal knobs, trim pieces and handles where Acura uses real metal there and has a nice sturdy feel. 🤷♂️
As a QC inspector not impressed with your caliper measurements
I had rdx for 5 yrs. Zillion issues from day one. At 36k cylinder head got damaged. $6700 paid under warranty. Got rid of that RDX junk. Never again.
Genesis made waaay better.
4 minutes in I sense a strong Genesis bias
But David you know that you would purchase a Lexus and not either of these two. 😉
Also if you check out the channel 'Throttle House' that they have an excellent review of the GV70.
Plus they are very entertaining...
David, If I had the budget, I would swat them both away and buy a Lexus instead 😉
Which Lexus? Dynamically and power wise, Lexus SUV is anemic and numb.
Genesis isn't a cheap luxury car like Acura or lexus/infiniti....
😂😂😂
Lol! It's still relatively cheap but a much much better product than anything from Acura/Infiniti/Lexus portfolio, even if it sacrifices reliability by a bit.
@@philhenderson3516 that’s a lie.
@@rahimi4762 What's a lie? Not my fault Toyota, Honda, and Nissan have ultimately decided to cheapen out on their luxury offerings and FWD everything and build it cheap in Mexico and USA. Those are facts!
There's no question who wins based on his analysis and it ain't the Acura. That sounds like a bit of bias to point out all these flaws and give them the win on brand recognition. Don't get me wrong, the Acura is cool, but there's no way I'd take it or any of the Lexus or Infiniti products over a Genesis of similar vehicle type.
American built cars will always come in last place compared to its competitors
Lexus sure, Acura maybe, Genesis no, thanks !
Why not, even Toyota it’s still 10 times better than a Genesis(Hyundai) 🤣🤣🤣And you call a Genesis a Luxury , that’s really funny 😂😂😂
No matter how you hate Lexus and why, it really doesn’t change anything, Lexus is the best!
@@kenchen2185 Lexus is slow~!
Lexus didn't have dynamics.
@RinBi Ne everyone knows Lexus is not built for dynamic, you want dynamic go for Porsche, simple!
@@kenchen2185 Oh... OK
You want to meaningless luxury.
Just go for toyota..
An engineer? Please, explain the choice! Is that CNN?
GV70 is better than CR-V based RDX.
Really depends on what you're looking for in a vehicle, driving environment, and driving habits. I really like the sporty looks and handling of Acura with sh-awd. It really comes in handy living out west in the mountains with 65-80 mph posted hwy speeds, twisty mountain roads, 4,000-11,000 feet elevations, and sun/rain/snow on the same road trip.
The RDX is not based on the CRV
Hyundai gv70 😂
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Korean cars are all other luxury cars brands design mashup. In this case they copied interior design from Lexus LC
G70 wins all the way
What on earth is that hockey puck test? Ridiculous!
SWOT analysis on a car review….very out of place.
You seem to know a lot about the vehicles but the testing and comparisons are questionable.
Thank you for your comment. Have you ever worked for a car company? I worked for a number of major car companies as an automotive engineer, and these are the techniques we actually used - including the hockey puck and the SWOT analysis.
Tell em David! So many "keyboard " engineers😅. I appreciate your background and candid analysis. I have cross shopped my self a variety of these segment vehicles. I'll agree the RDX drive is spot on sporty and engaging, but..... it lacks in true luxury . Just purchased a GV70!